The JBP x Kevin Samuels Special | The Joe Budden Podcast

What is this? Yes, microphone, check one, two, what is this? We are here on the day off. Let me tell people how he became well. I texted you and felt weird because there is a guy who really doesn't like it. men, right, sure, we don't address men, honestly, no, but if there's a purpose here, oh, I still don't, we don't address men, but we take it away and say, man, you love what you're doing, keep it up, uh and we. I had that exchange and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I said, I'd love to have you and you happen to be in New York City, that's right, right, um, and yeah, we talked about business.

I'm good with direct messages, yes. That's right, yeah, I mean, this is the third or fourth time I've been to Manhattan in the last six months and I'll probably be back in a couple of three weeks, but I wanted to make sure I had a chance to survive here because I'm about to do many, many more collaborations that I had already done without a jumper a couple of months ago and the thing is that I want to go out and talk to as many people as possible who are not. I'm used to what I say because a lot of people are presenting me through clips and they can't really evaluate anything from a clip other than what they want you to get, so I say, well, if you're going to say something like me, even in my show, you have to take it to as many people, friendly or not, and be able to have a conversation and at the very least, you'll get credit for at least showing up and having such a good combo.

I have to be honest with you. I've talked to a few people to let them know I was doing this interview. Some of them were women, yes, and boy, were they mad about it? Oh yeah, oh, they killed me, they kicked my ass. I love you, I love everyone, but how do you feel? You know that? Do you know that feeling is out there? I know that feeling exists for a vocal minority. What I also know is that I get videos of women saying thank you. you, Kevin Samus, for saving my marriage. Kevin Sam is the reason I'm engaged and if you watch my show instead of the clips you'll see women all the time saying "you know what" when I first heard you I know what to think. about that, but I sat down and listened to it from beginning to end when I can't deny that I agree with many of the things you say.

I've even tried some of these things and am a better friend. a better daughter, a better sister, a better cousin, a better wife, a better girlfriend, my current generations, my future generations, thank you, so I will accept any of the criticism because what they don't do, they don't come and talk to me. when I have my smoke show, I open it at least 30 or every 30 to 45 days and say, "you've got plenty of notice, come on, let's talk about it, let's talk about it so you know I think there's a certain amount of people." who are the naysayers and also I think my name is pretty popular right now so it gets good clicks but if you really have a problem let's talk about it and that never tends to happen you get it what's your experience?

How did you do it? like you start on uh your show uh well, it's a long road um, you might as well endure it first. My background is more or less this. I spent most of my adult life in corporate sales. That's how I got to New York City and spent some time. time in advertising and marketing, but essentially it is as an image consultant. I was finding my male clients when they were starting to become the best version of themselves and they kept coming back with the same thing looking looking for women women at my level my new level my adjusted level and I can't find any women that really fit what I'm looking for now look what we've been told is that a lot of men don't want relationships with marriage or this so that and that's really the opposite of who I am but a lot of you are saying I'm trying to find someone who wants to work with me and doesn't want to disagree with me, so I went on YouTube years ago talking about two men and three.

Besides years of videos talking to me, no one cared, but around January, around June of last year, after I did a show that was almost like a line like a shark tank type show, I started talking to women because I've been talking to women. since 1989, when we were doing this stuff on the college campus, we had these relationship seminars, these dating seminars, when shaharazad ali's book came out and it caused this whole whirlwind that we've been talking about for a long time about relationships, so, Like anyone else, I got a point of view and an opinion and started talking to women about some of the things I had seen and a lot of things I heard from men and that caught a moment and of course a video became world star. and it got some traction, but of course you know the average top video is the one that really blew up and I was like, you know, over 200,000 that wasn't about me, it's about us, that video did numbers that I've seen. your page and I haven't seen videos in eight years with that many views.

People went from coast to coast to contact me and tell me over the weekend that they were watching the full video and that they loved the running of the bulls and they had this. Conversation, it started a conversation and what I mean is it actually started a conversation with women that men have always had. We had this conversation on the basketball court playing dominoes with swords at the barbershop and when we can be real and we can accept it, there's no sign of bad language. When we can be men like when we grew up, not being these new grass-devouring lions like we have to be today.

No bad words in the Barbie store. You know, we can't be men anywhere. In fact, we say what is on our mind now. The things that many men want are the same things that they have always wanted cooperation, but that is what men in general seem to engage in in diminished amounts and what we do here is hear it all from one side of the color purple. To exhale to everything else we listen to what women want great, well I have a question for women, what do the type of men you want want in a woman?

And that's when you get the cricket butt, you can't ask that man, could you hit the man? some credit to Christ, these lions listen man, the problem is you used to not be able to ask because before I mean, you know you guys are used to all this, your artists, musicians and everything else. I come from the corporate side, but one thing I do know 52 years old. old that if you needed it if you wanted to go out and talk to the public you had to go through some kind of regulated fcc something abc nbc cbs pbs if there was something um and then outside of new york city you know I'm fm radio the media was controlled and the job of the media is to sell advertising which I sold and if you don't have programs during the day you better sell advertising to the people who you have to give the program they want, even gillette is gillette razors is sitting on telling a man how to be a new kind of men now you have a product for men luxury men on how to be better men i'm like how french what are the products for women tell women how about they just be nice the softer side of sears just Sean Well, I mean, what we haven't done is make the market do what it does, if 73 cents of every dollar is spent by women in this country, they better give a marketing message to the people who spend the money they generate.

The problem with sense is that we have an unbalanced view of things and the net web of this is that the modern dating environment is not working, it is falling apart and people are not meeting here, in other places, the hookup economy, All these things exist and here is the thing, women. They are not happy with the results, women talk about their outings, women have no problem expressing things they don't like, men have learned to not say anything, you are right, some of me have to believe that you have to subscribe to some of the myths of the woman you want to sleep with, well I will say this, men have learned that if I tell too much truth, I will get canceled, I will lose money, I will lose deals, I will lose this, e

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So, men with business interests, we are practical, we are cost-benefit calculators. What is the benefit of what I'm about to say versus the cost? Now what happened is that I hate. the term social media has emerged, so it has democratized access to the airwaves, the smartphone and high-speed Internet access have been taken away, it has harnessed the power that television stations, broadcast stations used to have. cable, radio stations. you needed to go to them to create an audience, now you can create your own audience and I just created an audience by talking about the things that matter to my audience, so now, but now, they can't, quote, advise you as easily as they still can. but you can still have different outlets, there have always been men saying things that go a little further, but now it's becoming, I won't say, more acceptable, it's starting to happen more often, I'll say it, okay.

I totally agree with anyone here familiar with Jordan Peterson. No, no, Dr. Jordan Peterson. Dr. Jordan Peterson. He is a psychiatrist psychologist from Canada. He caused quite a stir by rejecting a mandate from the Canadian government, basically saying it needs to be done. calling someone by their designated pronoun that they chose wasn't that they didn't want to call them by their pronoun they just refused to be the in the uh men the uh caught the coding the qualification of the speech that they didn't want Their freedom of speech was incurred, so it was became a worldwide phenomenon for basically standing up saying you can't by law tell me how I have to address someone.

I can choose to do that or not. He never said he wouldn't do that. He just said he doesn't want them to be lawmen like that, they're starting, he started a movement, more or less I would say he doesn't start a movement, he's caught a wave in the movement and went from being really relatively unknown to in a short period of time. The time he gains two million followers on YouTube allows him to earn like four or five hundred thousand dollars a month on Patreon and he's a professor in Canada and you know, one of the things he said that went unnoticed is that he basically told you men .

You need to go clean your room, he basically says that men have to be men, but what got him in trouble was the fact that he actually just said, "You can't tell me how I have to talk to someone from the law and without However, on the other side." You have no problem with how you talk to us and that's where we are now. What most of my critics never say is that what I say is wrong. They just don't like the tone, the delivery, the delivery, uh, or the harshness or something or or well, let's be honest, who the hell thinks they should say something like that?

Well, to that you say what, because let me tell you sir, if I were calling someone, hey mom, you built like Emmitt Smith, I would. I would stay a long week I would stay a long week It would be okay because you can't say why, but let me ask you this, although no, no, no, the other way around, the other way around, when you ask a woman who only wants a certain type As a man what is your right, your personal right, why do you feel like you can get this if it was a woman who said she wanted a certain type?

I mean, if it was a man saying he wanted a certain type of woman, all the women will come in droves and drive away saying you don't qualify for her, why can't she say it? And that's the doctor you just referenced saying you can't tell me by law what I can say, right? They're telling him the same thing. things like you can't say that, shoot, I don't want no scrub, scrub is a guy who can't get any love for me, riding on the right passenger side of his best friend trying to yell at me, women have no problem in telling me. what they don't want, in fact, they can get rich by saying something and if by chance I say ma'am and I was wrong, she actually outweighed Emmitt Smith to Barry Sanders, I mean, and let's look at it, let's turn it around. up women have no problem telling men who are under five foot seven I don't know I don't want I don't want I don't know short I mean think about my show that women call my show voluntarily and you know what.

It is and they call me to say, regardless of your situation, I want a man who makes enough money to be able to support a family of two or three or more. I don't want to have to work to pay big bills. and regardless of how it comes to the table, that's what I want and I ask why can't you get a regular guy all the time and how often do these women laugh so we don't have any problems when women laugh at the half of the men. population, that's true when a man just says, you know what ma'am, he objectively weighs more than a man his height, but listen to this, though now again, KevinYou already said it comes from that corporate side, we have this conversation all the time. time, but what's happening now in entertainment, women are the ones kicking ass here, no, not just entertainment, in the same way as the American corporations you just talked about or the professor who's getting it on Patreon.

Women have many outlets for where, yes, now. Let's turn this around, okay, so it's me with the bag, I don't have to depend on you anymore, you follow your rules, you think, your demands and that's why it's up and that's where all these city girl, summer quotes come from , wait, wait, wait, wait. wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah, that being said, women are killing it, e

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I disagree, the numbers are still different than in the past, I say different, it's okay, it's just okay, that's marketing, the numbers say different, um, we've heard black women, you're the most educated, have you heard that, right, I won't say that, but we I've heard that we've heard that black women are the most educated, you're the most enrolled, look, we played clever and loose when we started, let me say something, set the table, the past of a man or a woman's past, or her story is used to mythologize. a man's past or his story is typically used to demonize the black man who passed away stories she quickly used to turn you into a villain yeah so we can say women are doing this women are doing that they might be okay , so let's say women are killing it, I accept your premise, they're killing it, they're entrepreneurs, they're business people, they're moving and shaking the city girls, summer, blah blah, why do I want it for you? in a kind of psychiatrist, why, why, the weight of the typical woman is high and why are there more women today?

The freest, the most liberated, the most educated. The longer a woman has ever existed, the less happy she is. I can't talk to them. They aren't because the things that typically make women happy are. The relationships they have calibrated are the social ones of the two and many women have all the things that on paper are supposed to make you happy, but they don't have the relationship or the family and that's where it is. everything falling apart I mean you have to think about it if I wasn't saying something that made sense well I don't have 20-30,000 people watching constantly even with the women so angry because what they are recognizing is something is missing when I used to have my mit my men in training seminars i would say guys the first thing i would do is take him to a city overlooking downtown i would say gentlemen life happens out there number two words life is about people life is about relationships and one thing What this coronavirus pandemic shows to women in general, unfortunately to black women in particular, is that when you close the world, you close it, you can't go to work, many women had to look left, look right, look The front. and back and there was no one there, no husband, no children, no family, no network, they were just sitting there and that gave them an idea of ​​the exemption of their possible future, all things being equal, if you continue living the way you live, this is what it's going to end up being and people panicked for the first time because it took an act of God to start this conversation.

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was up and running before the pandemic. The boy was mad at all your new blooming, get out of here, yeah, but yeah, we'll get on our way. To what he just said, let me do the rounds like you asked me to. I need someone to do some soul-searching now, but won't that always be the case? Yes, but again for the women who speak out against him in court and in the company.

They move and shake well, and the funny thing is that it's a certain type of woman, she's loud, typically college educated, yeah, thirty-something, uh, and they realized I'm Gen X, we say they lied to us , they sold us to invoice. of products I talked about how cosmopolitan magazine promoted a lifestyle for women who wanted to be playboy women. I did a stream about it two months ago talking about the book subverted how they openly admit that we lie to a generation of women just to sell you. products We're not mad about how we got here, but we have to recognize that if one in four of you in our community, if one in four women will marry a black woman or marry someone, that means three out of four of you will do it. die single, huh, that matters once you're through hot girl summer and once you're past your earning potential, once all that stuff is gone, then what and you see, that's what started happening and everything has been a conversation until that, if you went to the supermarket in In March of 2020, the first time I saw fear in women's eyes was when they were there because what I used to see in Atlanta in the supermarket I tend to see a lot guys but unfortunately when I saw a black woman I tended to see her standing there with no ring and panicking no no no water no toilet paper I'm like this is like the real Eli Walking Dead live book this is what it looks like when they refer to the world that men built and that you didn't It doesn't have to stop working and I've talked, I don't just talk about things from the point of view, this and I say, okay, a lot of women don't really understand What do they need a man for, apart from provisioning and sex, but the pandemic.

It showed that you know how valuable it is to have someone on your right to help you with many other things, that's why this show was picked up now, who are the women who are usually angry and the women who usually know that they are not trying ? to be anywhere other than a couple, the word submission is a bad word, it's all these newfangled things, women who tend to earn more than the average woman who actually thinks that being with the man limits her versus freezes her . I'm like okay and in general I asked all the women, even you didn't like me, who say they don't like me, are they interacting with men in good faith or are they already thinking something is going on? is it going to go wrong or do they come with fear and scarcity and lack of mentality is there any hope when you deal with a man or do I always want a man who is this this this this this whole list of things where is it? having to deal with problems, traumas, things that you haven't resolved in your past and you take it to the next man and say, okay, so what is he going to get in return for that?

I see, I just think everything you just said applies to both of them, yeah, I do, I agree, it's like I definitely heard a lot of my favorite restaurants, they didn't make it out of the pandemic, they did a lot of my friends. and what they did was a blessing because it was in a field where we were, we were thriving, so, yeah, there were people out there, so I saw panic in the street, I heard panic when my people were on the phone from both listen. I went ahead, got online, and gave away my money.

I believe you, but what he's saying is for these quote-unquote independent thinkers who always say they don't need a man. I don't need any man for this. I don't need no man because God just showed you that. If you do it right. Let's see if they really need them. The difference is that yes. The difference is that men have always understood that no one is coming to save you. Nobody is coming to save you. The world does not. I don't care about your problems because all you have to do to see what happens to a man who has been on Wall Street and now lives in the park, we know that can happen to us, women in any society have been protected Of the of the of the harshness of the world, well, when you can't keep protecting women from that, then they have to start dealing with it. you as a man know if I'm driving a car I have to be able to handle what happens coming with this most people just call someone I can pay something is going to happen and then what does that mean?

What is that called? Yeah, what's wrong with us not having watches? Look at this, but that comes with a certain understanding of the point. What I mean is that the women, the men of a society have always known that if you can't cover yourself, the streets of the park are for you, the women, won't they make a demand from society? Go to Korea, go to Japan. There are two countries that are dying. Its population is aging. People are found living in their places dead for three or four days. It's called Kodokoshi. They gave it a name because people under 35 don't get married or date, but this is what women have. who are pet groomers florists teachers that's not rich money but they make demands on society I, um, I told a story the other day, when I was broke at school, I had to sell a textbook, I had to leave without tightening my belt, men talk about us.

We talked about how broke I was eating sardines and all that cup noodles. You didn't want sardines to smoke with me, but I would when I started dating a woman who was at another school. She was eating shrimp crab well. lobster and everything else, I'm like, well, you get all this guy, you tore up food stamps, he's like I'm a college student, I can qualify for food stamps that would never have crossed my mind and I'm going to get food stamps because men accept it if I don't. I don't have it I don't understand it women have been shown that if I don't have it someone will do it for me I could do you know what for uh oh and it's like you know he had a show where he asked a woman and she said no, I was talking about survival and if you have and for the women who think I'm full of, do this, go watch, go to Amazon Prime, go watch Bear Grylls, the Island, season two, where they fall . a group of men on an island a group of women on an island for six weeks and they just have to survive at the end of the day a man who went from one place to the other made a beach and started building and making things that prospered at the end of Six weeks me and the damn thing made the Internet and this is what it says.

I saw the interview in week five at the end of week five for the girls by the way at the end of week five they were still trying to be led by a committee because no, because no one they didn't want to be led by anyone, yeah, you know, the Girls are not like the others, that is the point they have, they have a system first thing in the morning, three, three minutes without water, three minutes without air. three days without water three weeks without food the women halved their water production capacity because they didn't want to wash a container because they were modern British women who grew up not having to do anything except go to the supermarket this thing You don't need a man in your home because you have 9-1-1, yes, but what happens when these systems stop working?

Yes, when there is no more, so I will say this so that men and women, even though we have similar situations, men understand. that I have to get it out of the mud, although I have to disagree with you a little bit because there are a lot of women because there was no male figure that had to get it out of the mud, where from, from where, where did they get it from, where did they get it from? Survival was that they had to, there was no such thing, this is what I'm talking about about women with several children that if they don't bring it home, the children won't eat, so they will do what you tell them.

Where did they get it from? Yes, where did it come from? They say the food. Where did they get the food from? Well, they wouldn't. They did everything they had to do to earn some money to get this food. Its like me. I mean, listen from top to bottom, they're there on the pole, you prostituted yourself, where did you get that money? You got it from a man, yes, but some are not women, single mothers who go all the way, this is what I see. is what tends to happen I accept your premise but where do they get it from because what legally where did they get it from work two jobs work yes work a couple of jobs what then you said it still comes from a man no no no no I'm not saying That's because what I'm asking is if these women received any kind of help from the government.

Sometimes yes, probably sometimes sometimes no. That's minutes. No, let's be honest. a government of which the taxpayers are men, I know single mothers who do not receive mothers, that's fine, but still you, women, use the system more than men, when we say that you get it out of the mud, you tell me to get out of the mud.on the other and there is the same mud that men would have to dig it out of, okay, but that's not the woman's fault, that wait, say, wait, wait, wait, wait, so wait, it's not about falling , I'm not going to hit women for that.

It's not if I was a singer if I could try that like you said college students would get food stamps no I didn't know because I don't know because I don't know because I know as a man that's not that's not what it's there for it's not for eat shrimp, lobster and crab, but not just because they're not that good, this is what I'm saying, this is what I'm telling Ice Point, I know this exists, what it is. saying, but have you ever heard that? There's a part that says if white people could be excluded at any time and choose what they wanted to be, they would choose white people because why wouldn't they choose white people correctly?

All this is coming. with being white, that's how I feel about women, yes this all exists absolutely fine, but why would they want to change that? That's like a superpower, but then wait, wait, wait, let me respond to you if I could just sit down and send. my and and say something and then come to me now look at this you can't pick and choose when you want the best all the time so wait don't interrupt me you know how many wait wait wait wait people go to the Gucci store It's spinning, we're seeing it with these checks that they're getting, yeah, just taking the checks and going to the mall, I know because I think that's common, wait to answer your question.

If you can't and that's the truth, If you have an advantage, it's not human nature to want to give up the advantage, in fact, here's the problem, don't exactly complain about people who give you an advantage because, look, I hear this a lot. women pull it out of the mud and so on and then I ask questions three levels deep and it all falls apart because it's like they're not really getting it, like I'm saying they're getting it, it's different. because the bottom line is that men understand that you have to produce, men produce en masse, women consume en masse, of course, we can find anecdotal exceptions across the board, but in general I have a year of program talking to women of a one thing to another and when given the opportunity, women want men to be providers, that's fine, but are you the traditional woman that you think you are, but are you the traditional woman that the man is supposed to provide?

No and that's my point so I agree with you you can't pick and choose whenever you want and a traditional old school guy my grandma my grandpa did x and z my grandpa provided and your grandma shut up and took what came with it your grandmother knew how to cook a sweet potato pie you not your grandfather so you can' Don't choose when you want to be a new woman and then when it benefits you be an old school woman, you can't do that, you can't say I want a traditional relationship here, when it is beneficial, and then now you want. being a new age woman when it's beneficial you can't do that you can't say you understand what I'm saying like you want to go out on a thing one thing that bothers people about my show is that they just leave me I talk to women who call the program in real time.

Not only am I not making this up, you can go listen to what they say and a lot of women say: What are you going to argue with? I had a 31 year old woman the other day talking about the same thing God is going to send me a husband God is going to send me a husband God is going to send me a husband so it turns out you know it's on my channel right now do you know how to cook? I know how to do this. Should I do that? Are you a Christian wife because you're talking about God with these long eyelashes and everything?

And it turns out that you said that I am a cooperative woman and I am a Christian, but Then, when I ask you about your previous relationships, you throw men out of your mouth. That is not right. What they have told us are the problems and the relationships, the problems that we have been told and marketed from the color purple, which was b. There was controversy surrounding the color purple at the time of its release. See it still on microfiche. They said the impact the films had on black culture has been catastrophic. Before 1965, they were made at a rate of 80 percent. the most married people in Jim Crow segregation and everything else, but after that, what do we have now?

We have the color purple waiting to exhale, so you know, we mention brother Tyler Perry and all the movies of him. We have a feminine side and it's always the man with the problems but there's a reason we always have the feminine side no, I said that this morning, right? It's always a reason why I said there's nothing that's tyler perry, it's profitable, I don't really like it, it's profitable for women. From the albums, I don't really like women and I don't like that narrative that Tyler Perry preaches, he's a black man, you should congratulate him and appreciate everything he's done, but in Tyler Perry's movies, if you watch most of the narratives, rich blacks. the man is the villain, no, yes, never, he is not, so the broke black man is the savior, then it is the rich dark skin black man, the abuser and then the light skin, blue collar bombshell, yes, it's not the bomb, but I love Jesus, he's going to come and save. and restore you, you see, the theme is fine, so what we don't have is the other side of the story.

Sister Shahar Razada Lee wrote that book in 1989, The Black Man's Guide to Understanding a Black Woman, for which she received a lot of heat. that and if you go back and look at some of the things about donahue uh geraldo, she was saying some of the same things that everyone else in this country has had their behaviors and everything scrutinized except in our community with our women, the black women, the black women. They've been removed from the consequences, uh, or the responsibility for their decisions, you're free to make your decisions, you can want what you want, but accept what it entails and that's why you know so many women are like, who are you? ? something now, wait a minute, you can talk about how you don't want to delete this and how you all can say some of the most atrocious things, but if a man just tells the truth, suddenly he needs to be canceled he's satan he's a man doesn't like women I have I have a push I have a push for you okay, what do you say to women who don't have a problem with you saying the things you say but who have a problem with you? take advantage of the things you say that's ridiculous yes that doesn't make sense no no yes that doesn't make sense many times the same woman had a problem with steve harvard he prophesied yes regular again when you serve them even though they I have a problem so monetize again, this is a unique problem for a black man.

Gordon Ramsay can profit by calling you stupid epping monkey and have hell's kitchen. Simon Cowell can tell you that you're serious and they love him, but if a black man sees. the rules for black men are unique, in fact, we're supposed to do everything and ask for nothing, nothing yet, um uh, olivia, who's the fuss and all these different shows, they can benefit by showing some of the worst behavior, but he had to be a black woman or you can. stand up and please the black women and tell them you know, look, nobody, everyone's talking about you, you've been divorced, don't tell Steve Harvey, that's what I just said, a lot of them told me you were divorced.

I died, but yeah, it's good to tell people about relationships, but here's the thing: when we don't like what a black man says, then we try his past. Nobody cares when you tell them what, uh, when you tell them what they want to hear. and what does it have to do with anything that is two plus two equals four? I use a lot of facts, data, statistics that anyone can look up for themselves and that's what bothers them because it's not an argument, it's like, well, we really do what you know what. The real party is that they're mad because I'm not in it, no, I'm not going to kiss their asses and tell them what they want to hear.

See if I was doing what everyone else did, oh they would make me a billionaire. I don't need it no, no, no, let me give you one more reason why they bothered two, now wait, let me give it to you, your darling, they were on your ass, which one do you have, yeah, we call this six quarter six. We call those six types of adjustments adjustable sixes, oh I missed the adjustable part, adjustable sixes, yeah, but he's the same guy that knocks Beyonce out of eight, don't stop, I want to hear what he has to say about calling honey , it is six adjustable. six, which means she can go from cute to pretty, but look, when I judge women, I don't judge them, I judge women by the same metric.

This is where people come into the image query. I look at you, fresh face, no makeup, your natural state. and if you have ever seen the photos of her, fresh face, natural state, she is a pretty woman who can be pretty, but I don't think she is ever considered beautiful or beautiful, that doesn't mean she is bad, but there has to be something . if she is already considered beautiful and beautiful, but take away all the accessories and you get what you get, see if you go, that's why when I use when I talk about a scale, first of all there are people who hate the notion that there is a scale. or there's a standard Eurocentric debut, I'm like, look, Pam Grier, go back to the '70s, Pam Grier, he's eight, yeah, but he looks good, but the thing is, back then you would have seen someone like Diane Carroll , she's in that category of nine, Dorothy Daniels.

We have been in that zone of ten, there will always be levels in this, but what women say today is that they are all tens and they do not believe that they do not believe it, but they themselves listen, it is CP if I have it. And if I, because everyone has a platform today and if on my platform I am a woman and I have 30 million people, if I say that the wall is blue, they are going to say that the wall is blue with me, then what do they do? It doesn't matter what else is happening in the real world, because that's all these kids are doing on the Internet.

No, that is not true, because then you enter a situation of realism versus an idealistic situation, in such an idealistic way that you can say that every woman is a 10, every woman is. beautiful but you're really going home because if you think you wouldn't buy a ton of makeup every day you wouldn't spend an hour getting dressed before you leave the house putting makeup on your face if you thought you were 10 Well that's it for me and that's the point I'm going to make because people say: well you can't say this, if that's the case, leave the house exactly if in your heart of hearts you think you're a 10 I like wearing makeup guys makeup has always been around Why when you go back to the 70's did you see women with minimal makeup they didn't even have veneers on their neck which was just a natural state? movie called I'm going to make you suck so I'm going to make you suck and uh what was that about Tracy?

What was that like her name? Very thin woman, I know I saw you talking, yeah, Keenan, ivory williams, he drives her home from the club and he says, well, I gotta tell you, I don't really have a 12 inch. She says she is fine, my eyes are not really green. She starts taking out her contacts and it was a joke because she takes them off. Here it is false. book and everything else that was a joke in the 90's haha ​​no joke that's what it is today you walk around atlanta today and there are men dressed like women who look like women because of the excess makeup the dyed hair and all the long nails you have You're okay, this excessive adornment is for those who are not for you, you, you, or me, it's for them, for them, we don't like that men have been asking women to have your natural looks, your natural hair, your natural way, your natural. beauty for longer, but they will tell you that we do it because you like white women or because men don't ask for these things.

Men don't ask middle-income people to spend seven hundred dollars on the lace front wig. but to buy two thousand dollar shoes, wait a second, but if you do it right, I was going to come in here because I talk to a lot of women and they'll tell me yeah, you say they all like natural. on the third one, but I like what you, what photos you like on Instagram, I can, I can, I'm just saying this is your point now, look at this of all the women we know well and be honest, how many of them are. get a ring you have all these accessories you have this fat ass you have all this makeup does it really work?

It's not my place to say well, what if that's not my place? no, from your own observation oh i haven't been running around searching for that no, but do you know people who understand me, i don't know what i'm saying, i'm going to go back to what you said because this happens all the time, women will say yes , you say you don't want anything, but what do you like about this? I'm so tired of women telling men what we think and what we want. You say what we want and you know why this is because 80 of us were raised by women and we are very used to women leading.

We, they think they belong to us, yes, he's right and they're wrong, that's true, we're the only group of men who are modest with our women, we go to Chinatown and see if this should happen, we go to the Middle East, we ask . go ask muhammad or ahmed, they don't tolerate this mess, we tolerate it because we have such an irrational and dysfunctional reverence for women in our culturebecause we have a matriarchy in which they try to make us question ours. Keep in mind that it's our fault, but are you okay with that? Ultimately, I will say that I want to be careful when I say that because it will be misused.

There are some structural things that happen and are fine in the 1960s, when the great society. they came in uh and lyndon johnson they put themselves in the big society they didn't expect what happened to happen go read the Monahan report and the Monahan scissors they didn't expect to give government assistance food stamps to the black community and for women to choose control over the men about the man, they were actually confused as to why this happened. I was like, wait a minute, we thought we would give you this for a moment and then once you stabilized you would back off, but no, no, no. they took the benefit, so is it the man's fault? um, that you were excluded from unions and couldn't get equal jobs and things like that, no, it's not their fault, it's your ultimate responsibility that you couldn't support a family that you still have. you can see it yourself before we were 65 we were married iterated 80 percent broke jim crowed segregated lynched everything else but we had a community we had hbcus we had churches we were united we had black businesses we had black buses these things that but like As soon as it arrived , women were given a choice, many more chose this over men and that is what is the quote unquote original sin that we still have to deal with in the black community and that makes black men feel some kind of way and black women don't like to acknowledge the fact that I have a question for you other things are fine but are you taking that statistic of the rate at which black women get married right and say they can't get married compared to Today's modern woman may simply not see marriage the way she was raised, seeing it one in four, 26 percent of black women were married. the next lowest rate is 54 and white women are still twice as many, twice as many, and if that were your mantra that marriage isn't that important, you wouldn't make the stipulation that I can only submit to a man who earns a certain amount of dollars, so you.

We're open to marriage when a man makes a certain amount of dollars, but if he falls below that threshold, you're closed to marriage, but that's it, but that's only in the black community, yeah, it's only for the latter, It's us because not. Just that's what it is, let's go ahead and go all the way, while we're going there, the stipulation is that a black man has to be a superhero, you have to be able to provide four or five times the rate of what any other man would give . It provides and you have to be a sexual professional, so if you don't have all those things, you are not of great value, you are not of quality and that is what my program shows: let women say what they think.

It asks you what you have in mind, they answer you and then, based on your answers, it evaluates the data you have given it through its questions. I don't know why they would fall for some of those questions because they're talking because don't do it, but again before they stumble, they think they've got something, I'll catch him, I'll show him, man, blah, blah, blah, lady, he and the man, not him, and all the people. that says tough and brash, I've seen enough of them where he starts the interview with a mile of respect, I reflect what I understand, man exactly, ma'am, ma'am, man, please stop interrupting me, ma'am, call me. platform for advice let me give you a lot of advice when you say something that no one over 40 wants to hear. that's me, okay, um, you like that, go back, go back to when you were 10, I want you think imagine a 20 year old woman talking to a 50 year old man you wouldn't listen to the tone the way I see a lot of 20 year old women approaching me a man who is prepared no no in particular calling my show talks to me like I'm your age I'm like that so no There are too many women, there is no level of credibility that a man has where he cannot be controlled, look, one of the things is what you tend to hear more often than anything else is why did you go to his girl show if it were I, I would have cursed him look, there is a problem, women, there are many of us, we have allowed one-way violence in our community for too long one-way aggression to see all these men in this room know that there are lines that we cannot cross because in this podcast we go to having to handle business outside because there is a threat of low level violence between all men, women don't have that, so they can say whatever, do whatever, make it as disgusting as they want because it's like, let me get this straight, you went to that man's workplace and cursed him out like you can do something if you decide no, there is no recourse because they assume if you touch me I will call someone, which is the police, which is a man, yeah , a man, and it usually isn't and you're usually not expecting when you think about who's going.

To show up, you don't wait for a woman to show up, you wait for a man to show up and let's be honest, most people expect a white man to show up. I think you have to think about the level of disrespect. The only thing men ask is that women be kind and cooperative. That's all. They don't ask you to be a supermodel. They're just asking can you be kind and cooperative, fit and childless, that's a lot to ask but that's a big boost today Kev, you can't throw the kid away, yeah yeah I'm joking but once you reach a certain age, no, I can throw it in there.

I'll tell you why I'm throwing it in there. IM not going to do it. back off because look, there are too many phones, I'm 52, when I used to go to the supermarket to ask for condoms, they would clown you around, we needed to check the price of condoms because, especially where I'm from, they thought I could justify it morally, but now we have women who They have access to more than 33 forms of birth control before or after you, they are all types of adoption, all these things, today no child is born that a woman would not want to have.

I mean including the full term, that's her choice. I agree, so if you choose to have a child without the benefit of marriage, that's fine, but you accept everything that comes with it because there is enough information available to prove that statistically it is a child. You're not going to be in the best position to get the best result this way, can it happen? Sure, because it would flip the script if men came out here and made babies reckless, they call you, they call you something, there's a name, yeah, so Is this this conversation right here?

Kev is what's strange. I was really hooked on just wanting to hear more of what you had to say. I was watching you with a young woman and the conversation somehow became based on hey, whatever you do. Was it best for the child? She was saying that she moved, she moved to wherever her family was and it was one of her family that gave her the advice and I didn't even want to move, but she was doing all that and you just kept it up. Yeah, I heard you, but that was the best thing for the girl and I don't even think she was still getting anything.

You were saying and to me I thought, "Oh look, this is deep, this is deep for me because that's it." It's been part of my experience and I've tried to explain or have a conversation like, Hey, I know you're taking care of yourself, but at what point is it okay for me to say it's not about you and not sound like a jerk? I think especially in our community we have normalized the right of the absent father and therefore when women make these decisions and these choices that the father wants don't even enter into the decision making, well, yes, beyond that, Yes, it's part of, I mean, we've normalized prosperity. and the prospect of coming from the Christian church when the prosperity gospel cannot begin to arrive.

I don't want to be too religious about this, but we have normalized that you deserve to live your best life, your happiness as an individual is primary and when you tell people that, it means I'm up here and everything else is a secondary concern, so when I turn around and say that marriage is not about love, but about romance, it is about duty, we are the most Christian. friends, when it comes to the most Christian unions, we also want to have new waves because someone mentioned that grandpa may have had a family on the other side of town, yes, but no, you didn't listen to him. about this until the funeral because grandma had a duty to keep her mouth shut and grandpa had a duty to keep her the things you hear about your grandparents and great-grandparents after they're gone, you still hold them in high regard, do we say that in Serious? of a town as if they were hell no no no because we are a group of in our feelings child I want to be happy all the time selfish selfish me me me me no that's true and we have a fracture each one is doing their own thing no one can say nothing you, as a man, as an adult, can look at the son of someone who you know is doing something wrong, you can't say anything for fear of what mom is going to say, this means that the community is gone, that's true . so we all hear our parents say "yo", when i did something on the street, mr johnson will spank my ass and take me home and then get me back, then my parents will be with my ass too, yes, i asked, he I asked this question to women all the time. time, it's okay who leads who leads because if you want the muffin, the fundamental component of any government, I mean, I'm sorry, any country, any state, any community, any society is the family is the family and, ultimately, that It's a mother and a father we are different if you have children you can sit back and know that you and your child's mother have thought different things about her child but whose word goes on and too often today women lead because that's how well if I asked you how I get to uh, how to get to Bergdorf Goodman, everyone here would tell me a different place, a different route, we would all end up at the same destination.

Women are too worried about their destiny being the right one instead of the outcome. A man's nature is to discipline and correct structure. A woman's nature is to offer care or feelings, so she guesses what we get: we have a generation of softer men and a generation of tougher women. They have told their daughters not to worry about any man, don't worry about this, get your education and so on and they have told their sons just the opposite and then the funny thing is that you end up raising the same men that you denounce . of not being able to lead, so when I say who leads, forget that every single man in this room uses the camera, that's it, what's wrong with your kids, what's wrong with your kids, black boys are reading in a fourth grade level?

The next group of leaders comes from your children, what are you doing with them? If not, if you have the money to send one of your children to college, will it be a son? Are you really making a differentiation between your son and your daughters because you want your daughters to have someone you can leave behind, but you are not teaching them any type of leadership in your home. They get angry when I start talking about this because I tell them it's okay, you say when you're 30 years old. Suddenly you're going to flip this, flip the script and suddenly become this submissive, cooperative woman.

What history do you have even cooperating with a man? And I ask you a question: did you have siblings growing up? Yes, your mother? serve your father, yes, you served your brothers, but you are going to go to a Hispanic family and I was about to go to a Hispanic family and the girls in the family served the boys now, why would a boy What could have gotten in? This country is legal or illegal, especially if you are in the south. I do this all the time. A guy can come to this country illegally stand outside a Home Depot or day labor center and do almost anything, sell oranges, anything, money, except go home. and get a submissive, respectful and loyal woman.

He doesn't have to be a millionaire, but he can get it, but I still have to go with me to Harvard Joe's often, so I had this conversation with one of our friends and she said demographically black. The woman and the Asian man are both like they fall into any group and I said why and she said because the black man has no problem dating people outside of his race and the Asian woman has no problem dating outside of her race. race and I told him this. Girl she makes a good amount of money and I said why you guys laugh and laugh at the 70 80 000 a year the man and Maria and Becky will welcome it with open arms well let me tell your friend she's full of affection, madam. you're full of black men, men are traditionally the most racially loyal of any group, that's it, women are the ones who tend to do it because you want to know dating the most asian women, white men, so the network is if black women were so sexually. as sexually desired as black men, don't you think they would date as frequently as we would, but the thing is, the black men we started talking about stillThey say I want a woman with all these situations, a modern woman, this or that, still when we? marry, we marry a black woman at a rate of 86 percent, but look, they want to talk about the 14 percent who don't, yeah, I don't like that, I don't like that and if you take it even further, it's really Se It exacerbates when you start getting into things outside of what I consider corporate America when you start getting into entertainment athletics, entertainment athletics, entertainment athletics, the numbers are overrepresented, I got it, but if you look at where people let you know that you have to go to work.

On a traditional nine to five day, most people marry people who look like them. You see, that's a deflection, it's because at the end of the day, all you have is, "Okay, ma'am, let's face it." All you have to do is find one, why can I? You find one and ask your friend. Have you ever been with a man who is adequate or reasonable and knows where he is coming from? Yes, in college, I was engaged once. Well, why didn't that happen? Who broke up and me? I will tell you that almost 100 of the time they are the ones that leave you, I honestly believe that these women honestly think that they can let a man in his 20s and 30s play the field, do whatever he wants in his early 20s and then wait more.

Move on in life and get a man who is more valuable as his values ​​go down, that's what he's been promoting to us, but his value, I think you're right, I agree with you, they think his value is going up. because they are making more money. so the things that they value in a man they think we value and that is one of their biggest arguments in social markets: your money doesn't matter to a man who has his own money before you all have this very exchange fast as someone who has been married. twice you want to get married again I would I would I would get married again because uh, if I decide I want more children, that would be a situation or number two, you will have someone at the end of my life working but the thing is that all The women I deal with watch my show, they hear exactly what I say, they hear exactly what you stand for, I'll tell you.

I won't budge on this because I've done it twice and I realized I shouldn't have done it. I don't blame my previous relationships for not working out because I grew up the same way we all grew up and I never did. You don't grow up in the position of thinking that you need to be responsible for everything, you need to have a plan and a result, you need to have a place for a woman to curl up and not put pressure on her. Beautiful made for shoulders, not hips. In the black community we saw so many women doing things that I think a lot of men put undue pressure on a woman who isn't really cut out to be a woman, so you'll never hear me say anything negative about my exes.

I take 100 responsibility even for the things that could be said to fail on that side, they are not their responsibility. The value of the sexual market is one of the things that tends to bother Mourinho, so I asked him what product on the market increases over time, with age and use. in a really difficult situation when I have to keep a straight face when you say sexually sexually we quote it sexual marketing I tell you what friend, I won't say it anywhere else but I totally get it we all get it but they don't and that's why yeah, Women have been told that college money, the experience of socioeconomic status increases their value, no, no, no, it decreases their, increases their selling price because of a thing called hypergamy, women generally want them. men have at least what they have or more, so no, if you wait until you earn a certain amount of money, it will be more difficult for you to accept that the man works less if he is a man, if you want, if you get a certain level of education , This or that.

You're going to think it increases your overall value, so when you hear me ask all the women how tall you are and how much you weigh. Dress size. How much would you weigh if you had to rake yourself? I say that's your person. That's what starts and then it becomes a question, it becomes a problem because when women are ranked in the average range, I wonder in what world average women consistently outperform average men and want to fight you. that point in today's world, although that's not true, well, okay, wait, wait, no, there's a caveat: if you're an average woman, you appear in a book, and you have an above-average man later in the story. life, he doesn't start that way, you understand. with these young men, you see that this whole high value thing has two components, a lot of women want a man who is either high value or you don't want to build a bob or build the stand, yeah, no way, okay, great, then go ahead and hit on him when you're getting him out of the mud when he lives in a one bedroom studio and you all get what I call an ikea marriage, I get that ikea man, you know they split, you know we'll have a vintie mochaccino frappuccino, everyone split up and acted like they were doing something, a bun and everything else and then they build and build and build and then once he gets to this place, they don't want that, although well, I don't.

I don't care what you want I don't care what you I don't think I don't care what you want I care what you can get I agree, let's see, the thing is that if men don't walk around they talk about what I feel, what I feel I feel and I want men to think, do and accept our situation. We all want a woman of a certain caliber, but until you are in a position to be able to have and maintain that, could you get it? Could you get it to keep it? Yes because? Is it so hard for us men to say that we realized that a long time ago?

I'm not going to bet on Halle Berry if I know I'm not on Halle Berry, wait or I feel entitled, let me tell you, but Look, the thing is, I'm going to tell the story, but the thing is, even if you did, let's say that I ran, let's say you ran into Halibury in New York City and you all did something that Halle Berry wouldn't do. Suddenly it's going to be a new level, you'd say I called it an outlier, yeah, I get it, it's a story you always have to tell, but you also wouldn't go around thinking, well, hey, Hallie, hey, next time you're in town , that? no man who was tequila has nothing to do with it now halle berry is not your standard i got you i don't want sally richardson next and nia long next and j lo next when i win 40 grand all of that is amazing but My point was in today's world, so that example has to continue.

Well, I slept with Ollie and left thinking the same way you said, oh man, what a nocturnal man who knew blah blah blah, but two weeks later another one of them showed up and it happened again, I wasn't expecting that, either. I planned that, you gotta have a stop, hey, that's cool, if that happened twice, I'm going to be on my way, hey, five hours later, here we go. another waits a second in fact and now that the game has changed it is not true, but no, it is not an anomaly, but he also answers them, your smv is high, well, look for me, do you want me to tell you about it, oh , you have to do it.

I know, look, look, your smv is high, that's not happening to an average five four hundred and seventy pound women, that's happening to women who run into high value men, I think so, but that's the minority, so I'm not going to argue. it's a minority this is what's fine so a couple of things a man knows what his credit rating is and what his resources are like that's the type of woman who can afford that's generally what we know we know what our resource pool is and the kind of one we can afford, sure, if we have a Halle Berry or if we have some unique ones that don't give you an 800 credit score and a 400,000 income that just gives you the ability to pull it off your lip, maybe You may look good, maybe you smell good, maybe your particular brand of guy is hot right now and that's what it is, but men are less realistic about it.

This is what happens with women because many women want these men that they are, in quotes. high value and I and I have defined that you have 100 percent of the women, the pizza director, going for the top 20, the top ten percent of men and guys here, you know that if he can catch Halle Berry, he will will make it, but if he can hit that six and no one is looking, he will hit it too, the problem is the way women look at it, i.e. women see men as their new standard, they say, well if I can catch him and he's with her that puts me on his level and that's not how it works we look at these things differently so it's not like average women haven't dealt with high value men because I have to put him on my show a lot of times women say I deal with high value men and I deal with hope and I say I don't worry about dealing with marriage, we maintain, we commit, we judge by weddings and we see that tells the story, women are judged ultimately instance by the type and caliber of men they can keep and many of These women can't keep a man like that safe, uh, what is it and what bothers them because he's good, if I can treat him well, if you can't keep him, does matters?

What bothers a lot of women on my show is that it's really common sense and basic, it's just telling them that it's telling them something that men know you can't have. All life is about choices and trade-offs and they don't want to compromise and can go anywhere they want to see you. about some more men, no, they call it a compromise agreement, they wanted to bring in this satellite, that's what they call it. I have three years of that. I see that what they don't do is go back to my catalog because even though, like on Worldstar, they put up some of my older videos, it's all out there and then, and even when I say things to men or women who are not black , I don't get credit for that, I don't get credit for that, I mean, I had a woman.

I called the program the other day and she called herself and wanted to start checking the black. I was like oh wait, oh no, no, no, no, no, you don't have that kind of privileges here mm. -Hmm, but it's like that's not going to get the clicks, well then what is? What do they really want? They don't want me to say to be honest because what's starting to happen is that I'm not. rude I'm not I'm cursing you uh I'm not being uh I'm not starting drama I'm not trolling women are calling into my show voluntarily and we're having conversations in real time and what's starting to do it is starting to make it harder to review what I'm saying, the things that I quote, you can look up the numbers, um, and it's not like you're just calling your hoes and this and that, that's the problem, so and it's starting to have an impact, now you know that the Women are starting to see things differently, men are starting to see things differently and the people who really have the problem are if they have the desire to change or improve somewhere or they believe that you are right, that is great, do you really have the ability to look in the mirror and say hey, I need to change some things or don't you give me the answer?

No, I'm just saying, or this guy is crazy, he hates women. I love him, he's failed in his relationships, blase, blase, blah, those are all things that allow you to dismiss everything, all the factual information that's been shared, allow you to be dismissive, whether it's that or defensive, you immediately go into defense mode when someone says something you don't agree with sign language i have to face two

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simmons this isn't even that exciting so i have something i have something called we knew i have something called sign language shame insults blame and the need to be right uh, and typically when I start getting real rejection, especially from a woman, shame, uh, your black mom, yeah, like, how can you say this against a black woman?

Talk to black women, I'm like, do you owe black men like us, oh, it's just going towards us, towards you, a black woman raised you on this and then I'm like, oh, wait a minute, so if shame doesn't work . the insults you're gay you're gay you're gay you're gay I'm like you're a fucking grown woman oh we're on the playground I'm not gay you know part of me is gay ask your girlfriend if I'm gay but she's like you she's what same gay gay gay because that's the first thing that's one of the first insults you want to make, you know, it's like you know dmx just happened now, people want to cancel him because of the lyrics he did in the late '90s. no.

I'll leave you, but the thing is because we use that word too much in the black community, now I'm like, wait a minute, black women call a man gay, but then you, your makeup artist, your hairstylist, and some of your best friends are gay men what are you talking about you love them because they please you and then the guilt you know you're embarrassing us you know you're making it I'm not going to say that that's why they love them, but there are many things, but the main one is the need to be right, the need to be right, that's why it goes on and off, it's like two plus two equals four, yes, but I knowa friend, I know, I know. that and it's like okay, are you trying to move this forward?

Are you trying to get a better result or do you want things to just be where they are? And that's what doesn't bother me, what women want, what men want. anyone wants I just ask: can you get it? you can get it? What is the probability of getting it? And if you can't achieve it, are you willing to make the changes and adjustments that will be necessary to obtain that type of result and more often? that you don't know that women say they don't want to more often no women have never asked themselves that question they just assumed it was going to happen it's like this whole notion of getting married um before and you asked many, especially women in our community , they don't think they should even consider marriage until they're 30. 30.

I say, well, just do the numbers on that 30. You meet him at 30. Six months to a year you're engaged, you want to have a year of marriage I'm like the numbers don't make sense six months two years even the commitment time is more like three four years you're dating before you get there and the fingers pop the questions the numbers and the thing is the numbers don't make sense so let's back up because there is a financial incentive to keep men and women separate because there is a rent for this apartment rent for that apartment power in this power for that there is more money when people are single when you are married you actually have to call households, There's someone else you need to work with and your priorities change instead of let's go to Cancun, let's go to this, let's do that.

It's different, it's a different environment, so, that's interesting, I never thought about that, well, I mean, and all of this was exposed in the whole subverted book and the lies that were told to middle class women, I thought, here's the thing. away from relationships, okay, you're not going to sell piano to someone middle class, you're not, that doesn't make any sense, you work at the mta, look at the post office, you're middle class people. you don't sell a piano that doesn't make sense what you sell is a music room anyone who has a music room it's just that the culture is sophisticated people have music rooms you want to have music in your home because it increases the cognitive level of your people children ability and this and that and that and of course in music we need to have encyclopedias because it has them and then if then people have a music room what are they going to need they are going to need a piano it's great it's not for sale and this and this there was a there was a method there was a method especially the black community our dollar circulates six hours you know why it circulates six hours because we are hyperconsumers, even in the pandemic, the line around the gucci store, hyperconsumers, so even those who are lying in the gucci store, uh, they lie and you're not the typical gucci customer, but why? because we have a home.

Those are non-rental feelings rooted in logic, logic or results say okay, you might want a son with a Gucci belt, but you're going to have to go to work and earn that Gucci money. Now I'll pay you to do this, this and then, wait a minute, I have to work how many hours to get the money for a belt. I'm fine versus the money just comes from a stimulus check or something and it just comes so we just spend it and when I was a kid, everyone did. I don't expect to have big houses and drive Mercedes.

People are happy with Honda Civic models and reasonable homes. The men are not around. We are no longer logical in the long run because we know that no one is coming to save us, so we have to do it. I have something and that's why I don't resent women for moving the way they do. I just think that men need to understand the nature of women and understand that you are not going to change this with arguments. I started before the high. courage or anything else that I started talking about, show your work, you can start saying whatever you want, but when you really start making changes in yourself, showing the achievements, you go back to my YouTube channel and see the progression, the evolution I made, congratulations. by the way, thanks so and so, it's hard to argue against work, work, work, people like you, always working, man, you're always working, you're always doing this, I'm like I'm older than you when I go out to work with you . and our women are no different than any other group of women in that they want to believe in their men, they are just afraid to do so, so this is where I hold black men responsible.

I agree with that, yes, since D.W Griffith. birth of a nation in 1915 the black male image has been attacked there is one thing that does not exist and there needs to be media blackmail by black men four black men yell at ocean duke jackson he runs away uh a website called the black manosphere and there is a collective of black men there that are always talking about things that are important to us, we need blackmail media run by us, not us on cbs, nbc, nbc on, we need our stuff for our voice, our point of view funded . for us, our money, so when people say you know you're making money off of black women, I get men to support my show, men support my show, the overwhelming support for my show comes from men because they I say thank you for standing up even if you are a high value white collar worker so and so, any brother you call on your way because you stand up for the blue collar men, the factory worker, the military man, you say something and no you belittle us.

I'm like I come from that, what are you talking about? I'm still good, that you still work in the corporate world, part of the disruption. um, no, I'll do this, okay, cool, and that was and that was my next question. I'm glad you asked. I was wondering if your stance on the male-female dynamic would have any impact on you being able to do some sort of corporate gigs if you were still interested in that, but if you're not okay with that, then yes, the questions, yes, of course. I couldn't do it, they could cancel me because all I would have to do is call my work and he would say yeah, yeah, look at this, but the funny thing is that anyone who knows me will tell you I've been like this since the '80s, they'll tell you which one you are having more fun in the corporate company than the one you were in.

I don't know, I don't come from that or this content creation. This from afar because I can control it. You know, have when. I worked in an American company, I was in sales and everyone ate what I made, so if I close the deal, my manager ate the sales reps, he ate the engineers and everyone else ate now, if you build your own business, your own audience, you can start employing and have people eat and people eat you the way you want when I was in corporate America, I had my first management job here in New York City and so God, I was the number two representative in the country and I got to take over the second worst team in the country I hired a team of people the first person I had was a black woman the next six people I hired were black men and then a white man uh oh actually yeah, a white guy who was a mother was white his mother was black, I'm not a black guy, uh, white, um, and it's funny now everyone in the organization knew my pedigree, they knew that I closed some of the deals most important in the history of the company, they knew the CEO and blah blah, I was the golden boy per se, I came here. in new york and we were at smith and wolenski and I remember the awkward way they were about to ask this question, I just know they're going to ask, they're like hey Kevin, huh, I just had a question for you, um.

Notice he hired all African Americans, why is that probably the same reason he hired all white people? I went back to eating my steak and they couldn't say anything because I could kick them, I was kicking their ass. I beat them every time, I beat them in the company, I took my team and said, "Okay, I've been successful." I'll make sure you have the tools and resources, but you'll work harder than ever. I've worked before because, damn, that's expected, but if you do these things and we actually went out and did it like a professional doctor and performed, we blew them away, so I asked him and I went to see my regional vice president and I told him: I think it's interesting.

They asked me why I hired all black people, but you know, I traced it back to a story I told in college when I had a South African. This was just after apartheid. I had a South African chemistry instructor and he said to me: "Kevin in chemistry recitation More than 400 people. He asks: Why do all the black students tend to sit together? It seems like they all sit there. I have noticed that every time everyone We tend to sit together, I thought it was the same reason all the white students sit together, but I think it's funny that your gaze automatically goes to that small group of five or seven black people instead of just hundreds of people. white people and he just sat there looking dumbfounded and I was like, why is this important?

Because when I was in management I didn't go around talking about my views on this or that I just took a chance and hired the best people I could. I could find for the job and it turns out they were black, can't we do that like you're the I have no idea why this view of the things I'm saying isn't wrong, but if we act more in a way where men would lead effective, productive, competitive, successful men, men who respected each other, we would go out here and to other groups. of men had to say those guys are someone to have to deal with, you're not going to close a business in that neighborhood, no, we're going to close a business in the neighborhood, we're going to have our neighborhood bank, we.

We are going to have a dry cleaner, we are going to have everything here and if you want to come here, take advantage of where we are benefiting from, you have to review our power structure, we are going to talk about the circulation of our dollar. and that kind of thing then it would be a hell of a lot easier for women to sit back and say I don't like what they say, or even how you say it, that's true, but this air conditioner will feel good, that's true, uh. I like it I like it I like this the streets are clean and they are safe in my key.

You know we're the only people who don't have it, but coming from the company, are you surprised at how fast this content creation game and the success center is moving and like we were talking about Mike and you were saying you're out there? eating and people are recognized and they recognize you and I mean you come from a different world, I understand that it could be a lot for someone, well, I come from the sales side. and then on the advertising and marketing side, I understood the importance of the image and how the image is actually reproduced, so I'm surprised, no, because I studied it a lot before I started doing it, like most people in Youtube.

You know, I came here understanding. the platform, the algorithm, how Google, why Google bought YouTube and why Facebook bought Instagram and all those different things behind it, ultimately I hope to become platform independent, I just want to own my own content and any platform that's trendy, just leave it there like this. That's why podcasting and all of this is so valuable because if they decide they want to turn the lights off one day, you just move on to the next platform and keeping platforms competing is like keeping record labels competing and I think you know why. many many men defend the things that I'm saying, I want to understand something, uh, go back to my previous content.

I want to hear you talk about how you're broke if you don't work a minimum of 60 hours a week. They pay you to turn off YouTube, Instagram, whatever and get off your ass, go there, work at McDonald's Circle, get a job, I don't care about your pride, you can't be proud and broke at the same time, go work, work. and work and work and then you take that money that you earn from your part-time job, you invest some of it, you invest most of it, you take half, you invest in your future, the other 50, the other percentage, you take a little, have fun, buy your belt and then reverse. in self-improvement it gives you a high-income skill it gives you something that will give you high-value skills that you can market and that you can leverage in the market, whether you are working in an American company or if you are going to be doing your entrepreneurial business in the future, but men, if you work, the harder you work, the luckier you get, the more exposure you get and it's all about hard work and speed.

When I came to New York City, it was one of the best. The moves I've ever made because this city moves fast, super fast and that's good because if you can run fast, great, but if there's something wrong with your stride, you'll fall too fast, fix what's wrong, fix what's wrong. It's bad faster because if the men are working. become the best version of yourselfthemselves putting the work into self-improvement this than working with other men to help increase opportunities for men guess what women will come guaranteed if the coronavirus ends next month and the place that happened was I don't know something in Central Park and everyone in the country recognized that this group of guys got together, we all sat there, we could be sitting at the table smoking cigars, drinking whiskey or bourbon and talking, cutting it, we'd have women surrounded.

In fact, because they go, they're always going to go to places where men are doing something where men are when they're not filming this, but when men are gathering, especially talking about power, I think we've lost that power, I think we love. What power do you think we lost? What you just said. I think it's literally been a total, it's a day, yeah, it's a total shift where the power that you're saying women would flock to has been the complete opposite. we have the Instagram generation with naked, sexually motivating women, I mean sexually attractive girls and I think if men now gravitate towards women, it's the other way around, it's the other way around and we've lost the power, yes, actually, because we all We are individual taxpayers. that's why snoop dogg had to apologize to uh gail why because snoop is a millionaire but he's alone, but if we had the media apparatus to say no, you're canceling snoop no, no, come on, no, no, snoop is with us , look, as long as Why am I here?

I had other things to do, but you, this brother has something and I have something. I have a reputation for not bothering people who might say the most atrocious things about me. I'm trying to get that reputation. Good luck because the thing is, I did and started long before anyone knew who he was, but he's also 52 years old. Now I don't know if I had this reputation at 40. Yeah, well, the thing is, it's not about me, I mean, the thing is, I can't really fight you if I don't know you, most people say. things, it's about something and the thing is if you, the public don't want to see, they want to see, we know what that looks like, we need to be able to work together as black men and men in general, when men work together, women automatically they fall. instead, but when we turn it around and start acting catty and beefy and this and then why don't I have to respect that, why don't women need to respect some if you call me this and that and I call you this and that we act like a lot of yes versus you say something about me and I just like to keep moving and you go about your business and then you work with the people that you can work with and eventually you can come I came back like you know what a dog is.

I made a mistake. I thought she was into it. She couldn't stand your sweet ass, but you know what you're never a guy, but I heard you did this and that and guess what? and I'll be like okay man come on I'm a beast let's worry about that yeah but do you think we'll get further if we're able to work together with women and be inclusive? I think they are two separate issues, yes. I think before this is to go back to Malcolm Las Vegas nation said right? No, I'm not talking about that question. talking about that when they asked him: could white people help the cause, etcetera, etcetera?

Initially he said no, he said we have to learn to defend our own cells first and regulate our own cells first before accepting outsiders into our situation. So I think what he's saying is that as men, it's more important, more specifically, black men, until we can come together and communicate and learn to regulate ourselves. We women can't really fight for our cause. You see? You say you work with women and I say we should be. be able to employ our women employ our women work with women the same as far as I'm concerned when we have an economy if they choose to work in corporate America in their own businesses but if you also have a thriving economy where they can Work in guess what it is much easier to have respect for someone when you see a man in the house, a man running businesses, a man running the police department, the fire department, all around you like you grew up in the neighborhood where you saw black people. male teachers and this and it's this, I think I'm going to find this podcast and put it at the end when the kids see men in teaching roles, their results improve dramatically because male teachers we don't have those anymore and that's another part where we don't have time to get in, but when we lost, we have lost, there is a book called the black tax that talks about the simple loss of black men as teachers, the impact that man has on a child.

Seeing a man, I grew up in a one-player household, but everywhere around the seats of power, my director, um, my band director, at every level of my life, there were men leading things. , so you know, I put the responsibility and the responsibility of leadership on all of that. things firmly about us, yeah, we've talked, we're talking about women and all that right now, but make no mistake, you know, and I've fallen short because I didn't see these things growing up, no one talked about this, that's true. We're building the plane as we fly it and I'm never going to sit back and try to hold on to some bastion of right and wrong.

Are you kidding? Come on man, we've all done some stupid things and everything. The point is: are we trying to leave it better than we found it? I think I have to run here in a minute, but I think Generation X in particular is the first generation that didn't have to go fight a war of any kind. We didn't have, you know, my father's generation in Vietnam and before them his career before World War II generation What to do will be the legacy that we leave to other men. You know, we didn't get to have it the way we wanted, we didn't get to be the parents at home, we didn't do that. to have the opportunity to say we wanted those things, we didn't have the opportunity, but we can choose to say, although I couldn't do it that way, can I pass the baton to the next group of men and give them something to run with? so they don't have to keep reinventing this wheel and do it all over and over again and then have to buy snake power with women no no no no, if we're doing what we're supposed to do, let's build our power base we work together to build our economies and then we are going to have the opportunity to say: do you know if I want to work in that structure or I want to work in this structure?

More often than not, history has shown that women are really good with accepting when they can actually see men do something now just hit your gums talk a good game show your work and they say that then they say that listen man round of applause round of applause we need a second part kev what kind of come did he say I want to get into civil rights and what do you think that had that effect on us, etcetera, etcetera, I think so and I'll be here in a couple of three weeks and I'll see that my goal is we have the best outcome, best conversation, we have to start talking to each other instead of at each other because we don't get anywhere alone as men or with our relationship and like I said, one of the most shocking things I've ever done seen is Young men see me walking next to me like and now and I remember, they remember me and Joe Green and he threw that shirt, how did that impact?

Yeah, I remember, yeah, I had that feeling when some of these young people are like man, you. Being here sliding I don't know what something is every time I like it, but I see the look in their eyes and they say I see something you mentioned admirer What's up? No. That's it. What's happening? I thank you. For coming, I thank you. I won't tell the guys you were trying to arrive two and a half hours before their flight. Yeah, I won't even tell him that I was like his family 90 minutes before the vlog round again. Thanks Kev, I appreciate you having a minute when you get back here, you're always welcome, sure, you're always welcome, man, we appreciate you and I know you gotta go park, you're okay, okay, okay, we're good.

Well, we're good, Franklin, we're good for everyone, we're good, it's okay, man, listen, keep us in your prayers, the lord knows we should be there until next time. It's a series of moments and past moments, so let's make this last like it's all we have and I'm leaving. I'll talk to you all next time.