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The Joe Budden Podcast | Charlamagne Tha God Joins Episode 113 | "Podcast Beef?"

The Joe Budden Podcast | Charlamagne Tha God Joins Episode 113 |
oh I think sorry oh I think Trey could give me 20 minutes of it yo cool right yes and he did just have a show in New York I just didn't get around to getting my 20 hits I heard that when it happened I heard when you did that before with a drop - it is I haven't introduced anyone this is all madness wait a minute we that was yeah this is a no yeah baby what do you mean this is big pause it's my fight music I've waited a long time ladies and gentlemen I want to welcome all of you
the joe budden podcast charlamagne tha god joins episode 113 podcast beef
said Joe

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one them what when I was it concerts 113 to my left the mall hey Moll what up across from all is Rory I don't like this part of the record arm and

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tha God is here the Prime Minister pissing people off the rule of rub a wrong way no I'll go check a groove a shin splayed out that's me how long is it is it how long did you rehearse that before you've never even heard all of that oh I have never rehearsed thing there's one of those
things I just started saying because everybody would always say that about me like I'm purposely trying to get under people's skin purposely trying to aggravate people so I thought it owned it I want to thank you for coming here it's my pleasure we are it is one of my favorite

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contrary to popular belief we're going to get into popular belief is about popular much higher

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is about popular belief um how are you I'm blessed in highly favored bless black and Holly
Congrats on your book yeah doing really well New York Times bestseller been on the New York Times bestsellers list for four weeks in a row I'll take a coach you appreciate this guy's media turn I know right I think it's great that's what I gotta be mediator here for telling us back good good good one know when you volunteer the facts I just wanted the big I wanted to say list of all you got a blocked up yes right a training right now Prada baby yeah black privilege and white
privilege right next to each other there you go but black privilege is a different I just feel like it's a privilege to be black you just you know I just got it is born yes for your getting color your skin color now let's I want to start there um I do want to shout out your your

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calls Andrew Schultz Andrews very upset he couldn't be here by the way like like really upset I just felt like I just felt like it wasn't that we're not doing a brilliant idiots you know I
still think it should be our name is Park Kathleen I don't know why I let them change it to Joe

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just you know what this guy's volunteering more thought I wasn't your little academic tactic won't work here like imagine of Destiny's Child came back together they can't be called the Beyonce album he's trying to divide and conquer the same way he did by getting a con his

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we don't care we give also very poor I got Andrew I did not invite you
here number one because I had no desire to speak with you number two your presence would have made this a brilliant idiots mashup again number three Charlemagne and I had some history that I would like us to get to you particularly don't have anything to do with that I saw you tweeting that I was scared I I think he was shook I think that and I grew overestimates his intelligence and underestimates my arrogance to say that either way we're not scared of that scared of Andrew show yes
listen I'm definitely glad to hear about this tomorrow tomorrow is going to be see they started off the

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talking about me and I was it did well I wanted to get that out of the way because him and I just had a recent exchange and I wanted to let him know he's still a friend of the show even though now if I have to have let's start there let's start in a nice light note I think I have a better white co-host than you nah Andrew washes Rory and what I don't think so near
sweater what what is the truth though and I like Rory well one Andrew what it calls himself a comedian I don't call myself a comedian doesn't let's get that out the way score one for Rory I might be a bit Whittier off the rip I'm not even one defender I I'm biased because that's my guy but just as a conversation you also have woody I like Andrew a lot by the way well this is my

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with Andrew Andrew and I guess it's kind of my

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with you as well because you have
to inherit the

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and you jumps in and I guess it's my

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with a lot of white people that are like that they jump in up on black topics when they probably shouldn't and they're not very sensitive toward us when they do I don't you think we should have those conversations I agree with the sensitive public it's hard to be sympathetic to something you really don't understand well so I think it's all there why talk about it if you don't understand it could more
have knowledge bond well get that right I think that's where Louie's inquisitive more than it never looks like he's attempting to understand it always looks like he's telling us about us we've heard them I just wait at Flint's comes I mean we've had other you speak about today we've had the pocket we've had those conversations on the

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I agree with that I feel like it should be a less it should be more listening and more trying to understand and more you
know telling us what it is we should be doing wrong but I do like to hear that side though I do personally I like to know how the others think white Asian whatever I like to know what they think about our culture and us do you regret the Tommie Lauren move hmm I only ask that because I remember you saying that there and I agree when I understand when people say that but I guess how it was Frank the aesthetic of it no I don't regret it actually and I saw your back and forth with bomani yeah
oh that was pretty well publicized yeah I don't I don't regret it because I did what I felt like I should have done like I told everybody I was going to meet with her before I did that's number one I did that on The Breakfast Club and then when I met with the conversation we had was me trying to school her - why her rhetoric is dangerous to black people like we had that conversation like she was talking to me about you know black lives matter and how she thinks the black lives matter
is like the KKK and I'm like yo that's just not accurate and so she said to me the reason she felt that way because when she was in Dallas she was dead at night um that guy went rogue and shot all those Callisto and then he said like her parents were getting death threats and she was getting deaf person that she saw a video of like some guys marching that said they would be a lemon he said they want to kill all cops oh I understood why she felt the way she felt I didn't agree with it
I only care about the framing but I'm sure you are a productive conversation absolutely and she told me she's a trump supporter so I was like you're all Trump supporters racists and she was like no she was like you know I go to these rallies yes a lot of them are racist I can admit that as but but all of them are ready also thinks she's not racist so she may not be I don't free well I'm not is she racist I'm not about the color I'm not yellow and this is not a lot
of people care if you don't try to come Tommy luring me to death I don't care enough about that white girl and I told her and he also told her that she can see the nuance in Trump supporters and she knows all the more races and some of them just want to shake up the government and drain the swamp and she should be able to see the nuance in the black lives matter movement think I won't marry without my life to which she replied what sheesh I don't think she really grasped the
concept to be honest with you because it was me it was me her and three other white men in the room I was the only black guy of the black is one black me her and field white guys and other white guys had to explain our like it's the exact same thing that's why that's why that's why I think the line of we have to have some type of dialogue with people that were disagreeable with sometimes is the easy scapegoat because a lot of these people aren't open-minded yeah but once you
have the conversation I realize they're not open-minded you just don't have any more conversations like that was at one time I met her in my life I don't need to talk to dongok something like nope well again I don't got this truck I don't care I just believe that y'all get it done you are way more up and much more of an activist to me I don't talk about the style I call myself an activist but I do uh I do care about what's going on in the world all right let's
get to the important well the not important in the world to the man yeah man Rory no I don't know what to get to the Rory I'm knowing that meeting that later I see what's going on here listen let's just get it on a table man tell everyone what your issue is with me oh do it I don't I don't fit great I mean on gunshots man I don't have any - with Joe

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like this is my thing I listen to this

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all the time I've heard y'all critique - Breakfast
Club I've heard y'all see who the a mic that's I heard y'all say we usually critique it in your favor by the way true Atlantica join deed I don't never think hear that and be like oh they trying to break the Breakfast Club or they try to divide and conquer I like every dish - don't knock it off because you're efficient parallel I'm just going based on what I see on social media they're like I've seen hour-long YouTube video City the was Charlemagne is
trying to destroy every day struggle by using the 48 laws of power I think right - what I think you brought egg on there to separate egg and Jo against your competition Rory do you know how long I've known academics I don't even know all y'all like I had that's not a compliment I've known Anna for life is not anything to be proud of education I think I've been given academics advice and mentor in him for at least five to six well why did you choose this tumblr hmm your
tender Grigory notorious why now if everybody's talking about everyday struggle and you know some they ask me my opinion on it and I say look I like everyday struggle I hope Joe

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doesn't it up the way he up a lot of things I love man that he's involved you know definitely I agree I agree the truth I'm not agree I'm like your answer I'm actually ruling I'm like your joke don't self-destruct this time what are you doing saying bunting okay so the problem and
I've confirmed to do constructive criticism is the only way that shows gonna work is if number one Joe doesn't get in his own way in number two if he got a respect academic that's a very vague assessment we can say that's applicable to anything you don't get your own would you see yourself doesn't a you was grunting at academic - it was laughs you definitely look like Hannibal Lecter you did all look like you could like to put the lotion in the basket he looked like group
of guardians of the galaxy and what made it so funny was you was grinding that academic and he acted like he could understand you so he looked like rocket dragged home looks like he was likely always you were great at him Joe was like remember her and he was responding like what about Juicy J yeah like you didn't even flinch you that's it what's our relationship but back to y'all don't come back - so I listen to the

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of the last three well not yeah I don't want to
get old are they named the last one to Joe

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but I decided the academic one I listened to that one right and when it came on you both went on to say that you had only seen clips of everyday struggle the clips the clips that we upload complex uploads well and when I heard that I immediately started scratching my head and I'm a contrarian and I'm a conspiracy theorist I said that just sounds like the biggest crock of bull I ever heard no way in the world or do you have this
much critique on something that you've only seen a clip of but wait wait 20-30 minutes alone and so now I'm not even telling you about you I'm telling you about your line as colds really quick I mapped it is not even 15 minutes after after you both say you've only seen clips Andrew then tells the academics that he went on YouTube and watch the whole thing after you saw one of the clips I said now that makes a lot more sense Oh another reason I won't invite his lioness up
it's just a line Liza Liza life now you guys are complimentary of the show but you hedge it some you have you think you hinted with Beck's yes why not what's wrong it's like that but I think I'm not all that loudspeaker like how long before Joe boy up every day's probably the pool is loudspeaker Andrew got too much I guess I'm giving you six months Joe and it's not even really y'all is we're late come misjudged the market haven't noticed Chris
tomorrow have well said loudspeaker one and only show any like Daniel and that is why see that's why I must connect all of these dots I'm gonna connect the dots anytime Charlemagne I have ever spoken we have lacked context okay Charlemagne knows good and got damn well they're complex is not letting go with Joe

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yeah baby the next two to six month but like I said on this

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very clear Joe we're all going me and beat my dick on the counter in the morning euros pause but
joke I said you will nothing and I talking to that in the bathrooms early I said Joe would walk I said Joel Joel Joel got a DD he'll get tired of it I'll get tired of dealing with academics he'll get tired of being in that building he'll walk away from the that was a chess move that academics on your

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well you know it you know it looks the timing of that the timing of that I'd like to know I think I also speak for more uh why are we salty hmm why are your salty if I
remember correctly oh well I thought about tweets yes colleagues I said on the pocket apparently I am salty at DJ academic you gotta noise towards academic you must roaring uh why because I think you know he's gonna take your spot eventually Joel got to assess his brain when you say oh we got a gloomy different I'm gonna do I don't think oh my god my assessment right I love this I don't know how close you and Joel had to me it seems like Joe and Maya been knowing each other for a
long time and I feel like Joe is loyal to his friends okay so god I'm through the industry y'all kind of disposable I got me into service can I don't know I'm just out honest and all of this guy good am I wrong he is maybe yeah horrors like your friend friend here where's my friend okay okay he's oh uh I'm hang out with him okay outside of here okay okay like I love I took this I talk to people that love and care about him that's my guy okay even why dogs I'd
rather him replace me if I was back on this

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or people didn't want me well that's coming you know are you the right about that where am I gonna be replaced with I'm curious you think AK is gonna do this

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now okay why wouldn't he know everything in arranging him for 80 minutes every morning they're going to come here and sit for three hours and talk about the same thing you agree with me to show have you done in six months because act somebody's gonna get
tired I didn't say that move Oregon you actually no I just said do you think they're going to want to talk every single day for 30 minutes cream a tea center and then some here for another hour to talk about the bag yellow I talk about the bag right we went in the bag uh he did like no worship and your worships automated rigor whatever I'm least worried what's up dignifying this book Charlie Nutella means no animal is created all of these Joe

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narrative I know you man
it's interacting with that you had said that I was on Twitter talking about act if you read it cause like I said just shut up like bro so you want to talk about act no I said what I think wally was trying to say to act was etc etc what I said on Twitter so you was talking to academics through wale he was translating wrong everyone on Twitter was talking about it and I said hey what I think while he was trying to say to Ahmed didn't get across in my dog though you can't burn pile on
my Twitter yes shuttle me marry my daughter who we were talking about ACK on your Twitter why we had but you're saying that I was saying that about academics I said no this is what I think Wiley was saying about him do I agree with wale yes I do but that's not what I was saying you don't realize what you're fighting no no that imma be honest that's some sucka Rory what some suckers because which I can't I can't shut it you got an opinion about academics but you said
you had to run it through wale I think what while a was trying to say that was their topic on Twitter that's what people were talking oh they were oh I thought I said that on this

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as my thoughts the very next day so what's the issue I'm not sure you're misquoting me a consultant Rory made it seem like he wasn't I know what a rant about academia listeners I don't read Rory's tweet flow that wasn't a Twitter rant about academics no it was about everyday
struggle and he was part of it it was about wale actually you know while I say I'm media train is that not a very good trick no that's not mediator that was a super mediator I was talking about what wale was talking about through your filter I want to talk but I think when I enter what I I don't care about your own tweets and wale this is not this is not compelling for anybody but the two of you I want to get back to academics okay Liam but we don't care about what you're
into I want to get back to Charlemagne frickin naive academics one who's powerful well then as part of it no not a lol a and although I'm a nobody I really don't you know what you all right thing here just listening and you know he I know but endow iowa is back why it's very important that i let you know already no fight of academics naivete I got him I got him I will be proud of you voters out there because I don't know what y'all Schmidtke oh by the way there's
our judge make by the way academic kick I'm in building we're not gonna mix the six years I talk to academic all the time I don't what I told academic years ago your defender industry from cuz I can see I'll break it up I mean I really don't know I like we are a I wouldn't be somebody let's let's pause from this okay briefly because Charlemagne when I was kicking it back into academics while I was doing so I had to pause at this very moment because one thing we
can say about you you do always give it back you don't you know that your opportunities I'm talking about I'm just saying some good about I'm not on this wasn't report I'm saying you you give back the opportunities that were that were given to you Harley and you do it a lot absolutely I thought I could show that was executive Ryan Senate shock you saying uh a - I was exactly reduced on MTV I had academic on that last year I mean it didn't show didn't gold but I
had him there you know and I've always given academics advice I remember calling academics and telling him he needs to find his own voice but at one point about three four years ago he tried to sound like me and he tried to sound like star a lot and I was like yo you need to find your own voice and I also told him that you know you got to be careful because one day one of these new girls won't press you that's the other side of the game people don't understand at all coming yeah
it's coming at me hopefully not I mean hopefully not well it's different with this space because before no one even really knew what he looked like yeah well now if you inviting guests up to everyday sort of lame yeah by the way I told him this two three years ago I said you need to really understand what you're getting into when you become this type of personality because eventually somebody's gonna pressure you're not gonna be able to be behind the laptop forever that's
just not the way the game goes if you're trying to grow that was my that was my uh but I think I mention that is stick yeah you know how stupid a would look to per second you don't get a strike for it they can come on in this Arab who we care they don't care who somebody looks and yell but they don't care you know why because if you're gonna give out that energy you got expect to get that same energy back I don't care who you are speaking of and I wasn't going to
touch this but now it's in lieu of this did you know did you know that that was going to happen when it happened to you things like agenda work yes the only one I know though no it happened twice to me that's the only one I mean I get a vote for them was on video the second video never came out though because of course I beat the out to do so me beating the out to do wouldn't come out because it was on a security camera so Indian Angelyn like jeez man and all them saw it but no I
didn't know I didn't know what having to be but I wasn't shocked I know there's no way that what you say absolutely there's no way you can go out there and say what the hell you want about people and tell people how to react like people can react over the they want that's the whole that's the repercussion that you just know that you don't have to deal with I've never been that type of person but I got to say what I want and nothing's gonna happen you
never know how somebody has it altered your approach sense no not at all like that happened six months later has it altered your security sense like yeah absolutely 100% i feel se-ho me and all the shoulders yeah that's my man man for 15 years so wanker supercool oh you just shake them built like that Joba cool Joe network 15 years ago yeah my partner my Colombian soccer on playing spades so it's like yeah of course if I can if I can put my man on a payroll and let him get paid six
figures a year why not right wife's got a whole nother genius idea about farming that I won't get into wax has a farm I know why has an organic chicken farm in huger South Carolina so many hustles there's so many also we get into the chicken back oh yeah go chicken bank is underrated we're not going anywhere not going anywhere here forever but yeah definitely all to my situation is my security situation talking like somebody like e-40 forties like yeah you got to make it
difficult for people you can't make it easy especially in this era we live and we live by the internet so you're gonna live by the internet you gonna die about it simple as that you know so the situation when Birdman came up there mmm like how did how did that change your relationship with him or anybody affiliated with I never had a relationship with Birdman didn't know him before that I didn't know him after this like they called me three weeks before that interview happen
Malcolm from universe called me four in the morning very y know them over at four in the morning he was like yo Birdman welcome to the show in a couple weeks you want to make sure you did some of you say that you let me know there's some folks about to happen like I know I just don't know what it's gonna be but I don't care as long as the cameras are rolling because I want to get to YouTube it looks like simple as that that's why when you when he walks in the room you see the
whole wide shot I don't let everybody know revolt everybody turn the cameras on I don't want to miss my look dear somebody to lay a hand on me while I'm sitting there I would dear that to happen I'll take it I'll take it record all of it yeah I'm taking a lawsuit I mean I don't think I'm innocent though I know I don't think so either but that's what I'm saying like all of that that that's not the witty way to do it that's the easy thing to say
hit me then no I'm not saying to say that I'm sure I'm still trying to conduct the interview because I'm a professional and people trip when I say yo you know why is why why didn't did you pull up on Rick Ross at trick daddy like that that was actually one of my questions then I was going to ask him if we had been a regular interview did you ever pull up on Rick Ross the trick daddy because remember he had that video he was on stage and he said I'm gonna pull up one you
up as well because I was actually one of my questions well we don't know that he didn't ain't got it done in off camera maybe but I mean I think here nor there I don't know are you both ever I wanna I know you don't know oh yeah you're right we don't uh with that said I watched a Breakfast Club today with the mental health stuff which I thought was really really great yes it's Mental Health Awareness Month um and I saw another shadow Joe important and he goes hey
Joe you can go shadow what allotted Joe what do you do Salomon is very to foe I have telling you y'all right why do you think I prominent a matter I think you know like author wonderful is verbal goon I sleep through all that now back to module mental health what do you think of all rappers you seem to bring Joe up added the whole world of rap why did you bring up not true in that they brought up Kodak black I think you are grounded oh yes I said on a top 40 for the cops for any radio right
you're my friend Joe I'd bring show up on the mental health they well up the bottom Jo on table nightly in every record you ever made when they came out with mood me what were you know at first one I got a rule yet album using a patty straitjacket yeah he doesn't room he knows a lot about Joe Joshi get these shoutouts on the breakfast book yeah I've never gotten an original oh by the way that wasn't even an album shoot I don't think by the room was out with the breakfast
girls oh yeah well oh yeah it wasn't so what do you think Joe's mental health is what would be your analysis don't ever mention my name line codex black either don't do it I have your home like Kodak I don't know Kodak Kodak nope yo I hear that now musically Kodak is dope I hear that I'm only talking about other stuff I don't know like there's a lot going on with all your Madre young trick that what if after you net well-versed enough in Joe to be able to dance
cuando mi mentally unstable I know because I've said that who tells for me to go off I don't know and why but why not not go on and eat and the fact that I saw you grunting at academics yesterday during an interview I was by the way was so funny I don't know what actually did not go more viral yeah - it was funny I went back and watched some of our old interviews right me and you yeah or me on the breakfast I got our first interview together in Colombian comp you lot on how one will
do point on do people know you here is your backstory really yeah they should yeah but you know I know Joe is crazy first time I interviewed Joe Joe was on all right you're gonna have along with this because I'm gonna tell you I know Joe was on the radio in Columbia South Carolina dissing gue and I'm sitting there looking out I go yeah you got a GU knit hat on right now I don't I just listened G you here and I'm sure this month I like to head how do you remember what is that
I was doing that ever recall wearing a g-unit egg bra you had to back out here to match his sneakers in the white beatitude I don't remember I just know yet did you know he definitely had the white be no I would be

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ing with for a long time that was without great apparel three or four whatever year that was Charlemagne is at this a tiny radio station in Columbia not going to say tiny but how it looking I'm BIA so I mean it's not New York so we had different radio station and
Charlemagne clearly had a gift he clearly sounded like somebody who should be in a different market and as somebody who was up you know thinking about all that stuff as I did I 97 morning show and I'm like I could probably can't do this in another market I need to be in this market that stuff was coming on my mind so when I saw Charlemagne I said you would be great for New York radio or thank you right so then your trajectory happens you end up in New York wait what was that Philly
first walkers not normally through this Wendy's our Philly ever I was out on June 9 in Columbia South Carolina doing radio down there and then Wendy got syndicated in Columbia so she's to come on before me but then they moved her show from other afternoon slightly like 10:00 to 2:00 because you're the program director down at the time who's my man actually Chris Conners I'm where on the station out of the breakfast clubs but he moved them because like he was very popular in
the afternoons and people still wanted to hear him and so like they moved the 10:00 to 2:00 but they kept repeating the show over and over so I pick it up I called the Kevin Kevin hunter her husband and just told him I gotta keep repeating the show over and over so he came down heard it for himself went back up to New York to raise hell and didn't like maybe like a week later I got um demoted to one day a week because it was a club in the area that soothed me and the reason they sued me is
because the dude was putting like date rape drug and girls drinks and taking advantage of him and he got arrested for it now it was like one of those urban legends in Columbia like no you go to the club girls were getting late whatever nobody could have approved it within the girl actually press charges on him they arrested to do so I took the link to his arrest record and put it on my myspace page and when I did that they sued me in the radio station ever settling with him for $2,000 but we
can't heard about a mm mm dollars we can't heard about it he thought that they had demoted me because I told him and told him that they was repeating the show though so he told me to come up to New York the next week real move keV so I flew up to New York and I went I went and did Wendy show I did I went to a party she had and then the party Wendy was like y'all come to my show tomorrow mind you she was a drunk but you can't tell the like me that I want you to follow I'll
follow on that to the next day I was hitting him up it was like he'll come to the show I went to the show for 25 minutes and that night cab offered me the position he's like a Wendy's looking for a co-host like Wendy had it all laid out like she knew she want to make the transition to TV like back then I was like go buy it I guess we want to make the transition to TV she wants my to be our co-host you don't want a comedian she want somebody that's from the radio cloth you
know you fit the mold you know we can we can give you a place to stay but we can't pay you I was out mmm nope you know I recognized opportunity when it's not a paycheck attached to it how did that how did that come in I don't remember there it was November 2008 November 2nd the reason I remember that is because November 3rd Barack Obama became president elect so it was really just a economic thing so that was when like the economy was up like they fired like 20 people from wdl I
said ok can I happen to be one of those people and then you went from the other Philly I was out of radio for like I got a radio for like eight months eight nine months but I didn't mind I just had my daughter in June so I was like being stay-at-home dad like mother my now wife was going to work you know paying the bills paying the rent holding down holding it down and then I'm like maybe in like March or April I got the phone call from 100.3 or beaten Philly and they had listened they
was listening to me on Wendy show and he was like yeah we want to try you you know with your own morning show now I remember that time because that's when Twitter was really fun but it was wrong man what it was real that was bad back then on Twitter that was 5,000 910 mm hours oh yeah yeah yeah and 11 I would know 2009 I was like 9 under sodapoppin oh it was a lot of fun I was all night and I and you know what fat is good it's funny you say fat fab is the reason I probably got like one
of like my most pivotal like career changing type interviews because I remember waking up at like 3:00 in the morning and seeing fab tweeting about beanie sigel dissing JC and I was like what and then that's when I know got in tune and heard the diss record - jay-z and I'm like yeah I gotta get beanie on the radio this morning so I got beanie on the radio that morning that was a Thursday it was a no Friday thirdly off Friday I don't remember I know I played the interview and
that's when he was going in J and saying how Jay left them because he would Jewish people and he was Muslim and yada yada yada now a small good man well you know Rockefeller my whole family pinkish before from those calls I got him all but literally it was dope because it became such a viral viral moment and then that Saturday somebody actually caught jay-z at like a press conference or something and asked him about it and he spoke about it which is so not changed don't judge J like that
and then that Monday they was calling me an offer telling me they was moving in another direction alright so the headline became jay-z got

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fight from on your points we've eaten a meal at home on The Breakfast Club before yes did you ask in the hello for the first question I don't know it was a while ago I was a very funny little dancer he didn't answer that's an antidote he just did the whole look like like okay women when a when are you leaving The Breakfast Club not
no time soon I decide the New Deal I found a new deal it's my second year my father did I found a long time to envy signed already in Baku we all sign oh yeah we gonna be into The Breakfast Club at least well it's all for tea I just spoke to take that yeah well yeah I don't know yeah I can to write you're uploading I even negotiation oh yeah we got different in every all just signing and ready to rock neither negotiations make the same bet that you'll edge on my everyday
struggle show which is funny because that's just a new show so the chances of that are very unlikely unless I just it up which I'm known to do but y'all now The Breakfast Club with all of your success with your different roles especially with all this extra you are doing env2 now as well extra sheet is cool now to do how long are we giving them a stay together honestly we don't want to hit if this media train he telling us even with how many people you guys have royboy the
other day right but what about them well yeah I said it well hot 97 amo Breakfast Club I'm not sure how long these morning shows are going to last because people are doing so many other great things outside of those and you get your stick is interviewing people obviously no it's not you don't think okay I keep telling that I was turning windy Williams I learned that from them if you got to rely on interview I'm not even here relying on oh I think that's your strongest thing
I'm not saying you're relying on it I think that your stick I think that's what made you guys so popular you've interviewed damn near everybody a couple times Oh how long do you see these being compelling but see I don't think it's just the interviews that keep us going oh you got a thing Kroger on the radio fall out in the game 100 people sit in traffic in listen I get that I'm talking about real literally gold much without interview sometimes like we go a couple
months yeah without interviewing anybody especially around the February March March air like time like it's nothing going on well I grab a holiday season okay so you don't think the interviews built the audience outside of radio oh I think they helped a whole lot I think they helped a whole lot plus I think a lot of the things that I've done and said on my radio I think that leads you in particular extremely popular that that specifically I shall give you a mutant problem I love I
like it I'll give you an example like last week right Bill Cosby daughters reached out to me Bill Cosby daughters wanted to release a statement on The Breakfast Club so stuff like that that's so that's the moment may not be a hip-hop moment of course but it's the radio moment that's worldwide news and is on like USA TODAY's like that why would they are you more in particular I think that made you extremely popular is Demi aligning on you to be like I'm a noted his
interviewing skill is one of the reasons for his attention because I gave donkey today to Kristine Leahy last week of Fox Sports that became a thing a Jason Witt Lyle of this Jason would like he went in on me on I mean for them Colin cow was shameful about to piece of we're done with him without just me talking I'm already like I'm not I'm not saying that this is the only thing that's keeping you guys a lot clearly it's not your syndicated all over the country I just
think you in particular that interview on YouTube watching you next to the guest pressing them made you in particular as probably the most popular person

Charlamagne

I'm not gonna just let you say I shoot three-pointed that's not what I do a lot I'm not saying well you wrote it over well-rounded game know that you wrote a book it is a there's path or dribbling I'm not gonna allow you to just say I would have puckish colligate I didn't like him Aurora got a little
underlined she's gonna so i wanted i wanna i can continue addressing all of my underlined sheila for now see now Charlemagne you're good man give me something good Joe good Charlemagne is polarizing dull you're not Joe yes I am oh I think this is one of the many reasons that we clash a lot I think we're more alike than we are different so we're going to continue to clash a lot speaking of La Reed when I went out la Reed if I haven't said that enough in the Panhellenic
I'm shocked my breaking news la doe I got like your critique on him is not bad while it's him because I never or he's gonna cry when I talk bad about la región he might I was in the building with children this is a witness a lot are you mad he dropped you right no and that's enough now I wanted to address that because he said that adding to a false narrative before la got there I was trying my best to get the out that building I was talking to scam like listen tell me what I
could do to get out of here and scam was saying to me this is before la got there listen it's going to be hard to move you you're coming off of what is deemed as a flop so you're not going to get your value when you go elsewhere it's better to just stay stick it out see what they about see what's happening okay so so it wasn't that it wasn't that I thought he called you an officer said you were too wordy no we had that conversation okay that was toward the end at the
end when it was but this was after this was after all taunting this was after gangsta party this was after things were working over there so uh then he called me in the office I guess to hear the rest of the album but Def Jam was trying to put album out on me I remember when I didn't know like without my consent they were having listening party they was doing wild when I leg up this he wasn't invited to your home listening point they were scheduling without the artist I'm tell you
but on my right Charlie my beeper delay comes from and I get that my tone in my delivery and makes it sound really personalizes raquel Avery I'm going to always say that I'm too passionate about the culture and because I witnessed it I witnessed the staple of hip hop and all the Def Jam was be turned into some total Rory but of a great point last

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and he would have finally no he was absolutely right la ready mentioned did not ruin def jam music really did change I feel like you
got to think about definite doctor had all of these lyricist metal man Redman Joe

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oh five I was all I was all significant years little John came up in oh five like Little John it was all about the Laffy Taffy when we stone in the air and that happen la Wayne actually made great moves he signed Jeezy and if Rory what you should have said last part I said that was Jeezy has said that numerous times that'll come out of Jesus mouth la Reed sign I needed ice to back me on any way you can
get whoever you want I back you everybody with a brain knows that she cares responsible for you she come on I'm a little wider you all continue to tell me about La Vie but that wasn't even my point at a point I was getting to La Vie because I heard Charlemagne say on whatever

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that was very late adhered you've been doing so much pressure so I don't know um and you know about to say so you don't know where the you said it exactly plug BB or train man right so but I
heard you say that the LA I heard you compared to la Reed sex allegations checks charge whatever the is to my domestic okay I said that it should have more sympathy I would think you would have more sympathy being at your it used to get so mad at me greatest thing ever right now you would get so mad at me when I would bring that up like that so I thought you would have most sympathy for la Reed do you think that those two are the same and then you find it all silent and well I want to make
sure he's finished do you think that those two are the same it depends what it is I mean it I feel let me do so let me get sexual allegations like I mean any type of LA has settled out okay numerous occasions okay on these allegations okay I have not settled anything I've gone to court in all of you charges have been dismissed and thrown away allowed wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute best-selling author maker be my point with you you know better than the that you spew you
certainly are not comparing from here la reads settling out numerous times the sexual assault charges - all are actual assault charges because they're sexual assault charges absolutely the same thing let's sort of the salt well the domestic violence or sexual assault and I'm saying that you continue to compare the two one gentleman continues to settle out one just keeps getting thrown out how do you can quit whaling you're getting sued and you're getting arrested so
you're this criminal is is more it's civil No and by the way Joe wait okay wait don't do that go ahead oh let me tell good Joe is Joe came on The Breakfast Club after he had allegations against esta Baxter I remember we did Breakfast Club court one of the worst interviews ever that's it that was great by the way is we all it was great video yeah it was a browser I didn't wanna give after she was sitting on her stomach so I say to Joe Joe did you sit on her stomach you know
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what Joe said to me no I said below her breasts she is crazy I want to be very clear how I be very clear number one that was so not one of my best number two I did not want to be their number three I can't not speak to my head space then but boy that was poor wording now you stand so each other so so so so the way Samaria found not guilty so doesn't mean something didn't happen

Charlamagne

you say this is my that you celebrate on a man if you die I will not allow you to do that on
this pocket you will not be that elusive you are comparing it to I don't play it out I don't care about me miss peaking on your show I'm talking about la Reed continuing to pay off listen Emma Coronel now wait wait wait wait let me tell you think about I'm talking about his now it's not common now that's number one but till now funny that you say you would think I would be a bit more empathetic toward LA Reid because one of my gripes with you is you absolute that look
like some happened you've been charged with why you know that what do you mean why why do you note it because I've said it maybe read the book well no I'm not saying I'm gonna hit from that no that's that's not my point in mentioning it my point in mentioning it is anytime you've ever brought up my domestic history or lack of oh I'd be saying yo Charlemagne has dealt with women you just know that happens sometimes Matt that you hit a woman well I'm
talking about women about many we know most I don't know women women lying northern ooh like you and neither at the end of the day so I'm like yo he has to know that because he experienced that time he saying at the same time he's saying when LA's being accused of these things and they could be false you should be more sensitive I would think a jobber that I would think that's what all would Charlemagne do you know the way I've had well a stations with women who well I
don't know that John I'm telling you Ohama be ing I don't say anything about the sexual allegations what la was that they were with women because I thought that la week and I thought historically under this house the thing I used to hear you say buddy okay Sam and I'm and this is my only case not on I don't have here but hey Antonia read baby baby baby that covered benefits someone else oh hey Tony Oh read no dead good deal alright what I thought that's what it always was
so honestly when Joe was violent on LA I thought it was two things he's madly drop you know la try them Gardo stories I've heard laj Rodham is crazy you have heard those stories lar walking with the silk robe on so that you come on what's the clothes know that you're too wordy conversation really was well I don't know I will just try like I was really telling me to just not say no words I think so more that I would try to I was trying to figure out why jokes off saying those
are two different conversations if la is accused of sexual allegations and he's guilty that he's a piece of piece of and yes you shouldn't be in the music industry manipulating his power period but so you do feel like that but that's not why you said you shouldn't be a timeout when this is then this is a new point now do you feel like that absolutely when the have you ever said that what do you mean I've never heard you say that Joe and that gets to my

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alright we
did you last week and I said hey Tom I'm some hair don't say something to me about La last week and I tweet up there I said you don't even you don't even know my position on their lady's sexual allegation you never asked me it's like the music thing is one thing sexual allegations is a whole nother thing why do your tweets count in that mind I'm talking to him welcome with you and I told that we like that he said he can't wait that's my

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about a values
about your platform to okay cuz you can discuss some of the I dance my and that's why I think you have to kind of on me a little bit and let's get it let's get it there there aren't too many polarizing people here yeah I agree with what you said on your pockets there's room for everybody absolutely more than enough room for everybody however I disagree went that's not Rory stop it you know you're absolutely right it won't be the only white boy on pocket my name
is the next point divide and conquer us when has there ever been in everybody now it's always been that way alright so let me ask you do you view high 97f competition no I hope you anybody is competition I feel like the only competition is me stop it wait a minute oh not okay I get that author man would you stop authoring me go through maybe keep saying offers okay I'm a really saying my drummer really tell you my mind take a book it's really really tell you my mindset and I got
this from you know Kobe Bryant and LeBron James if your canoe if you're considered the best who else do you got to be better than other than yourself that is true so it's like I'm not in the who's comp like what the competition is people that inspire me but they don't because I'm saying all right well there was a period there was a period where you would rest them frequently addressed addressed to people I only even take no notice of it because it was one of the very few
times that I've ever heard a personality on one station speak by name hook a personality or another station I want to compete Funkmaster Flex mr. C first of all there is no radio personality who's gonna let that mr. C shape slide right he was a serial purchase of penis he got caught three different times bro like how you play now you don't down I don't know how you could do this and have that la reach stance what do you miss the same other he was trainees I mean Joe Malin oh I
don't know you somebody know that would it be a shock Joe you're telling me I don't know I don't know anything about are you were saying about yeah and in flexes that flexes the legend so it's like when I went at when I went I miss the seat and then Fleck jumped out there and flex was like y'all really want to do this yes I do absolutely we just started in 2011 mm I got to lose yes I would love to go toe to toe so they at the time every competition know it's
different reflected see eight legends I listen only reason I don't acknowledge flex not because I gave him a eulogy two years ago and I don't talk to grind on you analogy bro don't see the need to be totally honest with you to be 100% I don't see the need and it's like oh I met him twice in my life right and I've never said this anyway I met him twice in my life last time I met him I think was initiated was the shame that Colin Kaepernick's no you're right cam and
you know he welcome to me and he gave me a pound he was like yellow my name's you know such as such and I'm like yeah I know and then like 20 minutes later he was asked me to take a picture he's like yo fan you know you got to take a picture and I was hyper you know picture with you way to play like yo you get I'm like are you slanting me on the radio 100 miles-per-hour you called me a Uncle Tom you want to take a picture with you and you like now I'm just saying I never
said you wasn't talented I just said that you know I didn't like what you did with Tommy Lauren you after you take a picture bro like we got y'all rule on the pole damn wait I want to dance I'm scared I just want to make sure I'm hearing things correctly good is that dessert really that's a fact you might eat might deny it but that's a fact this is why that's funny you know like yeah like you check in whatever hotel it is the Radisson or whatever they offer you
like a chocolate chip cookie or some you just got it does something to your manager I don't want chocolate erratic asking another man for a picture is kind of like listen matter of fact half not even without it being cool right yes a Scotty beam Scotty being with it me and Dianna universe because I want to actually wanted Scotty on a show same show I wanted that coin I wanted Scotty honest she didn't do it in arena she didn't do it was because of her relationship over there and I
respect that you don't saying but I feel like that's when the radio politics up the next generation because she shouldn't feel like she has to choose sides when it comes to some other form of media based off her affiliation over there I mean like I said that that was a conversation we had in that moment and it's so weird because we actually talked there for a while but no no pictures came out actually people did try to take pictures and he was like all you want to take a picture
with me so it's like I don't see that meeting was a setup no I wasn't a setup it's just that I know that a lot of smart I got an angle for it I know that's not real like I just know I just know it's not real like it's not a real situation like whatever I had when some when people tweet me and they're like oh they're getting at you on the radio I'm like okay cool like it don't benefit me to go good to go at them in any way shape or form I'm still
not often they're gonna come for little Bieber 3 on you I am esperada man Ebro really come on man I can't look at Eero doing that I can oh that's a little oh that's why I think there was something behind it ebrill smart man no I just attention you're going that summer jam do you want it listen are you gonna take the picture and it's gonna be all over baller alert and shade room and everywhere you think Evo would post that picture why not well do you want to take it why
would he propose temperature I'm sure bill I don't they erode okay even if you have to take that picture why even look like a nutcase to post a picture on it so people that's what I made this little celebrity is getting bigger if I ask em to take pictures ey T bro asking Charlotte me to take a picture if that story true I'm not gonna lie again I think there's something behind it I think Ebro had a plan maybe though the plan will I'm not I don't know what the plan
was the plan is to get retweets and I don't see for dignity land is the gear we're digging too deep into the plan I know I know II bro so I know there is typically something deeper in IVA when he moves man listen I think he was going on soma James going to like product I don't like none of that none of that stuff bothers me the reason is don't bother music I came in New York in 2006 the windy show left New York and all weight was out 4-minute came back wonderfully came back here
in 2010 I feel like I've accomplished a lot in the past six seven years would you say so joke I would give your yo-yo you've been in the radio game how would you feel like I've accomplished a whole lot like you know that's from the pot your

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and asking for a picture my TV shows executive producing team New York I'm telling book I'm doing okay would you say that I've maybe even lapped some of the people who've been here in New York for a long time talking
I'm just asking I'm stopping I would say so yes all right so Dan I got played it was a view okay lat well how big the big of the big run last time here's a track who's he lacked I'm not gonna pee laughing so you so don't the you say that I was asking do you think so I think that you have a lot in common with the people that are against you and what I will say is part of my issue with it then even that entire Ebro and Peter all either of them that's ridiculous even
nother one ever did and never say like okay I'll tell you another story which I'm which I don't even understand not only that's why I ignore them before they're before the election all he's sending me texts like y'all we need to come together in Peter yeah yes I'll go against Donald Trump okay why do I need you to go get Donald Trump like our leaders like we're talking about but why would you want to ride with a you claim to hate I gather I don't be
understanding I got a family there one is it radio eight or know kind of the habitation box all flex out our mr. C I would even speak to him I damn sure wouldn't ask for no pictures well I damn sure wouldn't send them no email and be like yeah let's let's work together well that's you know I might be evil like my name with Peter and Ebro maybe not so much evil but a lot of times Pete Peter is they have let up not only my my relationship with Charlemagne but I think artists
having a relationship with Charlemagne affect their relationship after with them so so when Charlemagne is calling me a woman-beater every week on on their cause you won't be a year when oh man and when it was happening Peter is looking like will you continue to go up there you continue to with them but overhear you and my brain never operates that way but my brain never operates like I handle people just in my dealing with them not in relation to what the they do with somebody man if I
was like that in this industry by the way we've never played that game audited we've never said yo you go over there you can't come to us they do that to us all the time we've never done that because to me I'm like oh that the best interview is going is gonna pop anyway yeah it don't matter to me like go ahead do your thing like we're going to you do your thing we're going to Oz and the people are gonna gravitate towards whatever interview that gravity cool
here's a question for the three of you that has zero to do with Charlemagne or radio or any of this because the Billboard Awards was on the other night and I don't want to talk about all of it talk about the Drake show you mean you know that that Drake showed up to because they promised them 13 award the over I gave them all the tickets that he could possibly handle and invite him over so y'all soon in okay so a ball is ovo yeah no I'm all thank everyone that sat down Torre is
Drake and let them work out their problem I'm just asking so you say that they promised him 13 Awards are you saying he wasn't deserving of those 13 was no you definitely was deserving but I mean my mind is thinking about didn't drinking he wasn't going award shows anymore like I need to know when did he decide he wanted to do or chose again I swear I've not even Peterhof for water when they gave him 13 all of this is great i but that was probably the most successful night
that anyone could have in the worst-possible shirt that they could have it in it might only one paying attention to that custom long job I didn't know that he is accepting third team award and a designer Long John Oh cam oh I knew I don't hear that the photo was photoshopped he was kind of bloom because I didn't see I didn't watch the wood that's right you know I was thinking when I saw him up there especially he was up there with all the young money I was like wow look
how roles reverse because Drake is the young money now with little Wayne was the cash money maybe eight nine years ago when Cash Money was looking like it was a lot of wrapping it over and Wayne was the only person keeping them afloat that's Howard rake looks right now well I mean if you were to ask me three weeks ago I would have said that Drake was over Young Money and out of here but then the whole Nicki Wayne reunion should happen with the no fraud so it seems like they're back on
the great Canadian so Canadian people are very loyal seems a fair cross the Quran so all very loyal by the way that in the perception because they're out together all the time you know yeah but seems that's the perception some time give us sometimes you give off information without really trying to give off information so what I watched when I saw that entire I agree with Charlemagne's rakers on the stage looking like that he's that every award he thinking his manager e
thanking we never even heard no but I think before so he's looking great he thank moral to Wayne is in the audience looking proud but not looking like Wayne yeah because you can't be right if you're not getting your check and Nicki is next M saying screaming to stage what about me I think all of that is very telling as to that entire brand I think she was just being a woman oh I just think women do that and we don't know I get a lot of why you think women say what about me no I
don't know bodies paying attention to the three records that you put out that flop by the way we've said that multiple times no fraud no frogs did okay but I mean Fred it had the iheartradio stimulus package and it still didn't like that's why I'm saying lo lungs because it definitely I can literally it was like number 20 and that's rocks are like 89 next week well that's why I was I was you know she went on this whole long rant about whatever the hit is and I'm
like y'all kind of stop just rushing to judgment on a hit just because everybody's going to it on their phones good job what did y'all think of a our opening Awards I didn't see I would have taken the drink meddling over the Nicki meddling all right so far I don't even know all right so let's just get to the real quick so our not let's talk about okay is that official is it official we're doing a sound right saying agile so no I'm not gonna I can't agree
with Joe no I like Nurse Joy what do you think about nodding maybe I was thinking about it again off by joke Joe definitely taking my spot why is why do people keep saying that because we're alike because because we're a like minions like that just a morning show it's two totally different lanes my show get logged in in the afternoon but but that's been on a month like somebody said to me today on why would you tell academics not to go with complex complexes competition I'm
like oh they're internet shows academics is an internet personality complex is a website like The Breakfast Club is a radio show that happens to put its interviews online if The Breakfast Club started getting zero views tomorrow on YouTube as long as we're still top three and ratings on terrestrial radio we're fine that's the difference yeah I mean you can't limit it all show by yourself and until someone over there at across the dow decides to widen up they don't want
y'all ass then i'm all y'all ass the reason the reason the reason I'm an I'm gonna tell you I'm definitely not so that off of this whole joke all right screaming oh my god 21:02 that don't that up already yeah I was over there sleeping under the boy I was doing while agent crazy about to be I did wild over there man I'm dead wild throughout of course of my career I got everywhere but why did you leave then why did you leave then when you were going morning
heaven Kevin Laue stole told me that it was too much accessibility why would why would a why would the fans purchase my music if they could hear me every morning on high 97 so I had to make a choice is what he told me and what's crazy 15 years later now they'll tell you that you should do that to get more 100% well listen I could I could assess everything that's wrong with Trey Songz - Kevin louse right now Kevin Liles and his dinosaur thinking in that brain just a lot of old-school
a lot of old-school but we won't talk about that so that's what he told me and that's what stopped but I always did know that whenever the rap was you know we could go go do radio but where would I do it at I love these conversations about you know you know everyday struggle game competition first of all I think that everything makes the league better like I don't care if it's every day struggling on campus decency marrow I don't care if it's tax when taxes home
everything makes the whole league better but the reason I say hip hop fans is so fickle it's like bro it's been a month what I'm saying it's not just going to tea to me there's been a month but I feel that way about artists - like if artists got a hot single you don't jump out there and be like oh he's the next hole I guess no gauge in dough and that's so big they do I'm just dumb they do I get you right back - no frauds this is the biggest record of the
higher dumb like I gots to be even you I love guys like Kendrick you can't put Kendrick in the greatest of all time category yet man why these other something you can't just think it's too early give him a moment I give him a moment I know as we put out I know Ariana like my my thing is just when did we start saying like Jay was the greatest I when did we start saying nas with the Greg's I don't think it was 309 unfortunately we couldn't look at Jay like that into a big
left big leave and really help people look at Jay in his proper life now I have given way after that okay we look around blueprint there you go I don't think we go for it I think the worst is when we was like whoa blueprint was the one and then with Black Album it was retiring The Greatest Dad by that point that's marketing I've said he drops a classic on 9/11 him and fab both dropped on 9/11 blueprint came out of 9/11 and they both sold I remembered them both being a little worried
in the building there you can it mattered none I mean and honestly that's my like that's mine if anything I want people to take away from this

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today they're like you know it's good when it's more than one entity out here in this space maybe when you try to break really yes I don't you man oh I'm dying man well glad you say all feel good more one more one it's not really you know I'm not really know rarely their work and that's my man rarely the
better writer than me as a personality I tried to use Railly on TV I tried to use a bottom on the clock up already all before text yeah I know that really was text was your relic that worked tax work with Technica death listen when I did my first season uncommon sense and I auditioned all of these different internet personalities I'm like yo you got all these guys at a funny on social media all these women at a funny on social media let's bring them in literally out of the 6750 people we
interviewed three might have been ready now in are even just decent able to hold the conversation look you and I and they talk you know the tax was one wavy gravy be with another gravy Raven with I thought so I don't think I've seen her do like regular or anything like she was no any one of my closest friends every good in the room other not nobody like honestly go I've said on this

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it's much it's easy to be funny on Twitter it's hard to do you got to be quick on
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on radio like yeah they don't really speak to people in real life back to my wale act point a lot of people just live in their phone and live online they're introverts which is totally fun but you can't come out in this world and think you're going to be amazing and on people that do this every day I'm more academic than when I first started uncommon sense didn't work he didn't translate in the room he was okay he wasn't like he was even boys a lot more
vocal now I mainly text equal time but I mean the people we had on that show you a tax on that show a decent marrow I like they were great story halls on the e Network now like that's why is it bums me out people like oh you you hate non-academic so mall and I didn't play play this one I just thought about whoa by the way mall is what makes this

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late he was the missing can great absolutely he waited fire Oh Marisa thank you appreciate you know what he just say and you wonder why
think everyday scruffy Pig I read Marisa Socktober richer Allah may already be very earlier before before academics did your

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I told him if I hear something I do not like I'm getting you fired I don't know you don't like any time not with the I'm not with the Jonathan I'm a twit insubordination or people interrupting the plan in the journey where you know Marissa had to go don't do that I didn't even say about Marissa and I have the same show I had a I had
a keen eye act academically I had Marissa I had a ladder come audition show I wanna Scottie I think it's a big mistake hot letting Scottie walk out the door I say honest how John beverage on bad night radio that is a big mistake but you know I'm having a private conversation with envy that Ryan supposed to talk about but Envy has been vocal about you know how I treated him on the way out a lot of people have been vocal about well I'm not sure what well they may be dyani wanted to
leave and was like I don't care about the bag but I would have thrown she's been there forever she's obviously very much in touch with what's going on right now she's armed schism you can't urinary or attitude she's perfect to blow it into her own show I mean I I just really thought it sucked I started talking to her that Colin Kapernick thing but I don't talk to her on a regular what would he offer in her I don't know I don't know I have no I like why I
wouldn't have let her leave I don't know she didn't go anywhere no she went somewhere but I mean I'm not sure he today announced it or not that's not for me to say is for her to say but is it gonna be in New York yeah that's not me well they had to go other than power I ever heard what else don't say that cuz it was a complex follow your head I went to everyday struggle you know she didn't come to everyday struggle she returned my texts when I was looking for a
moderator what do you want me got on a fire in the desk I don't chase people notice before we had if you thought it was a comedy complex was trying to shovel a penis between me and academics pause like Sam we've never been a male moderator anywhere we've never seen a male moderator anywhere in the world I'm saying man the chief keeps me happy to work on my

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I don't know that you know I'm gonna have somebody edit the out that no man have you say la Reed tried to
sell come with you that's what the I'm going to do what what is happening with uncommon sense now we just finished the third season I mean Bianca Jon no I mean it it'll be the fifth season cuz I did PC who the Charlemagne a friend and then three sleeve is negative University you won't be on it why would I leave it brothers go listen if you look if you guys really getting that back Ryan Seacrest Steve Harvey they still get up and blame on a radio show every day like radio still
provides the level of intimacy that you can't get anywhere else radio was what helped Steve Harvey promote his 10 of the TV shows and his books and everything else like I'm not going to leave radio Ryan Seacrest is doing oh I didn't say leave radio don't worry about I said The Breakfast Club I worked well they come in or fee if they come in or few other nice I'm not saying you leave one like some diss harmonious note if they come in offer you your own your own slot or your
own show or just because I'm sure you have aspirations of you're not going to do that you're going to try to finagle bully you already spread wide look right then this is the thing right um breakfast table is a unique situation because I feel like that's probably the only show in the market where everybody has equal billing like it's not like even though people may capture no people may look at me at the oh he's doing the most but it still DJ envy Angela eesh all the main
to God it's not like it's the breakfast club DJ envies Breakfast Club of Charlemagne's breakfast well what happened to Jesus been she's been quite recent works for you too you would just use my agent at UTA actually my agency got that a jab and yeah anything for you got that's my man no geez minutes everything is yeah he's Rory likes Rory like I was gentle I've been with a grimly and he got wet Rory would pop off like that destroyer would be if he would grow up and
stop drinking the fly would I do that oh yeah ooh Canada reading The Breakfast Club together I know she's been hand-picked everybody I know he told me all about it like this holds a whole power line up from ProStart itself I think everybody but clue he called me I was in Boston I was performing um and he was out there and we did dinner and he was trying to feed told me about the idea I said it's amazing cuz y'all three great things trying to come up with a name he said I'm
thinking breakfast : yeah like a little do I know that she liked it better name it girls man if I woulda heard that's a local from the river I was like I love the three of them but their Breakfast Club yeah I wanted to be loved with monatti in the morning oh yeah thank God really liked it I'm glad that didn't wanted to be Illuminati in the morning but I just I just like to with I like to with the internet so I know that with a people tell me how much cannot be said because Angela
Yee works at record labels let's get to it I mean I don't know oh as far as she's concerned I don't know listen no you know Angela politically correct like a I know that you know that but I don't got nothing to do with me I don't give a I don't have no ties with no record labels tell me about this revolt partnership let's hear about that wait a minute everybody knows I hate revolt I see that I don't know that I say to our audience our audience don't
listen to the air tell it oh oh why you a verbal because they don't pay your that's why is that that's that's the bottom line they don't pay us nothing and it's just like I'm not even really people to be talking about them actually but definitely I would think that that's not good that was a member but I remember that came like a month ago like please yeah that's what I'm talking about able if I don't know if you know but that is the word on revolt
they retain about it they really getting that shitty to detect over there and then plus I just I don't know I don't see what they do for the brand that's just me personally you know I'm saying I just I don't see how revolt lifts up the brand of The Breakfast Club first I put you on TV I'm not going our vote has a lot of shows that I took like I've seen I've seen like documentaries and stuff on on revolt that I did never even look good while you make me feel
better about being honorable object saying like well that's part of her that's one of the only channels that still shows like videos yeah cuz I don't I thought nobody watched voters of a French Montana Kathy you know I definitely I definitely these kids I don't know how you get it is it part of the time or eternal no I personally would want them to do more of us like I want I want if anything I want puff to promote revolt the way you promotes Iraq or anything else you see view on
everything club promotes revolt what does that be reason there because puff would never not promote something I don't need puff is the ultimate marketer like do I learn from puffing Khalid like you got to have a bet you have a dj khaled level of annoyance a puff level of only some people promoting something everyone simmer down might have a revolt bag they're negotiating it alone for the

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being on time two weeks ago I'm against bigger but I worry so it works so I mean yes I mean it's just it's a partnership but it's like they don't really pay us nothing and they don't promote it so why should I be happy about being honorable me some him saying like a I know is good to you because made me like you said why like why should I be happy to be honorable and they put you on TV signed a Viacom I'm on TV a lot Rory why didn't I come do give you guys the
bag instead of revolt they don't know so good question what do you think that revolt do you think that they have a watered-down nori watered-down nori I mean I don't know that I'm watching overvote so I don't know like I still get a I still get room I still listen to drink champs on on iTunes by the way norris

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is interesting to me because it makes me wonder like inori's interesting last my guys always amazing as mom I mean is nothing be greater when you dumb in
super business with nori like me and Nora God how come with TV project in the works tunings doing I mean I mean I'm executive producing a couple shows glory that's not a secret we work with people definitely not wonderful I always said nori and Ghostface needed a television show face my favorite rapper of all time feels great personality though he needs a television no I got a couple shows coming one one is already greenly nor is a star that will be announced soon and the other one we
bought to shoot the pilot for yeah oh man that's a little good hurry just put your bags I got area forget to move it I'm not taking the rapper journalists life my focus is different my focus is like I want to like being behind the things I like doing the executive producing thing I like finding new talent finding new new people I like the one it's it's way more than I like scoring points I'm always sure I get paid more than anybody well speaking of speaking of
behind-the-scenes and we brushed over it but I want to get everybody's thoughts on come on we talked Valerie but the Khaled move about him eyeing that exam I don't think that'll be the executive said I said that on purpose when I'll be a lady give me the backstory something he wants to be Elliott you want that job I think I did I would never think it's a good idea when somebody who's that active yeah are you Joey okay I don't have time to do all that I just don't
think you can hope that you can do that job with integrity when you're complications you can loan it I don't see it definitely I'll do it but still would we like to see him kick I'm not I'm in a sense it might make for some real interesting theater over there yes I'm all for that it would behoove epic because I don't think anyone has more relationships than dj khaled to get people to sign over there and Khaled is like I'm the one that's in charge I like as a
rapper I might want to do that I like being anybody from the coaches getting those positions of power especially Callie Callie came from Radio well again kappa and also talent cares I like people that care that are in short how do you know all this stuff about these people how do you just say that so adamantly care out there here's how much you would know Rory when Laura got a lot of industry I can also I really thought if Callie cares I don't know but you always say that guy industry
commission well he thinks about to corral no you know what it is more you you got some industry connects but Rory got like some you know we're used to working labor he got some label going on or all of the work that labels don't work there knows or are you are industry doubt I'm nighttime really long you are you are really are we bury hell industry up I can just hear it in your voice like you didn't have a wave of like the white guys in the industry to Joey I had a work at a
label your way like Wayne do you are they right with you I don't know okay I love I love what y'all don't want any Palooza that's all Darren I respective killing I don't ask okay well with that I care so I'd be happy if I was in charge of label can I give a about this and I think Khalid get proven that he gives a about artists first I think I think it's hard to care when you're very industry to analyze me I'm gonna tell you walk it I think you care more
about the relationships and you do the actual coaching not saying you in general but I think a lot of people get in these positions and they really care about their relationships more than about the coach that's why I always say I rather be of the people may be of the industry because when you of the industry you gotta play that below you're gonna worry about who you will fin you gonna want to get invited to the album release parties and all that I've never played that game even
now that's why I don't why you guys think I'm industry I'm better with industry than in five years I definitely saw you at a Big Sean listening party yeah I should have been at you never I did a big issue without that you know said Oh Big Sean listen it was all it was down there whatever time anything where where is that at Club that I hate Griffin down a block from ripping down a block day time I don't remember that but I'm right I might have been at a big shot listen
part because I think Big Sean's Adobe's rap out right now hmm I saw y'all argue the big net on every day struggle and I'm like why like I was like is Kendrick the best I like kindred not get me wrong but I think white has shown this because I think delivery wise I take ball football I think the way he slips different flows I think Big Shot of the best first of all we got to stop sleeping on Detroit MCS we always know sorry for just really try on all of your top 40 people sleep on
I don't think people put Detroit MCS into that conversation they talk about New York they talk about Philly a topic a Detroit got some of the best and I talking about Philly before Detroit thank you ranked where Detroit is I'm not I'm talking about New York LA I mandatory I'm putting Detroit over LA tomorrow's rappers I'm not gonna trade overly wrapped up putting Detroit a guy can take two rappers right now Roy Roy Roy Stan Eminem I'm NL zy-- le is between those three
MCS I'm picking Detroit and by the way was an exhibit born in Detroit even though Jersey I'm taking me Treach and Redman - I'm not mad at a guy and the Royce is a tough that's a tough night of elegance I didn't even put everybody in their prime this is this is a good actual conversation but Detroit is high I don't know who sleeps on or you can't and I think Shawn is the next wave of great Detroit emcees I just don't think Shawn helenandheid there now Shawn Shawn
doesn't have that height beast NJ's London stop it Shawn doesn't have that height B string behind Danny Brown good nice very nice without the era we live and we live in that era like if somebody like Kendrick says he's dropping a project everybody goes crazy already said it's a classic before they here same thing with J Cole kinda hanging with Drake like those three have a certain cachet to glaze the Shawn's don't have but honestly while and Shawn Shawn does not have
an album as good as a while a album Shawn does not have a album as good as a Kendrick out I agree with Kendrick wale I think you got you got a couple you got it I wish on what songs better I decided I decided is his best work I like beautiful ducks twisted sky fantasy whatever that was called where's that one hand blessings on it and all of that oh my dark paradise much of my parent I would be the best one in my opinion no I didn't know I know that is really good I like I decided but I
think that I think Detroit the mixtape is his best work period but I think what happened was Shawn was in the building of Cole Kendrick and dribble Drake's kind of poppy so they don't really count he put out Hall of Fame and in that instance Kendrick and Cole put out amazing projects and so I think showing that review and a lot of people took Sean slow including drug course no I'm whole green is going down shuttling up you're really old no you're you're right but
that's Sean's fault from that high that he should highlight that more would recognize it if he said that like what but because Drake is the biggest Nick in the world yeah Sean is not going to say that but who don't noted that this Big Sean's well I think Drake credit show a big credit John I didn't think Sean right now if you listen I decided Sean is doing flow that other rappers just aren't doing I think Sean I keep doing so he but I'm telling where things are on
for a while where I think those core fan bases started Sean did finally famous which was great and head hits but Hall of Fame came and it just was a dud to a lot of people you know what I don't projects is what I'm saying people already get in there I love this artist so they were with Kendrick and it would Cole and Sean just got left behind in that room because of that album I think that's a great point you bring over that's what I said it's I hate business oh you asked
because you got don't you got dudes like Vince staples that a dope is I had somebody asking that today I'm like yeah I know so no events whatever's left really get to that level simply because if you don't get that energy behind you earlier it's like you don't get it later for whatever rings dead Vince I think his uh his greatest talent probably is not going to have anything to do with music I agree went that's how my highly has an idiot yes very well-spoken gig in
my opinion he's the that I look at and say I gotta watch him come on I make a really rare that's really well but I'm talking about the same way on I'd say the Charlemagne we have existing whatever because we're kind of like I look at Vince he's the only other rapper that's just gonna say it you're just gonna say it you don't care he's just going to say if he's gonna work himself well and you know he's not politically correct at all but yeah you
probably had he's nice and it's but to bring it home you probably just he made a fictional listener part because actually like Big Sean like he's dope to me he's the best rapper out right now to me not saying he makes the best albums not saying anything yet but he's the best rapper and I'm looking at the last few projects really raps better than Kendra's I think he's right there with a my brother knows I really rap better alright right now yeah mmm right now at
them for this foot right it's a slight edge after light age just a pimple butterfly was our last reference point I may agree with you but he did so many different flows and great with damn but I kind of have to get Kendrick but right now did you Jean oh of course on which one I decided of course I haven't ran to my I used to work with Sean so of course I did and you work with everything entire building I can drill close yeah of course I need to close any reason whatever I'm gonna
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tell you another reason I give Sean a slight edge Kendrick you know you hate Kendrick you can still hear elements of certain people yeah a little him you can hear little Andre mm Evan at times okay with Sean I don't know who Sean sounds like who - Sean sound like and so that's what I'm saying I guess he it's a slight edge and just originality with Sean I love tender ginger who makes way better albums a pimp a butterfly wasn't everyone over but I like Dan wasn't original
dan was just cool to me man I'll be honest with you I thought my el Park said the same thing as cool Park said it's just cool it's not whack that all it's really about a matter of fact it's actually dope but it's just like I don't know I don't mean anything and I respect parks music music opinions so much that I went back you ever go back to try to hear something with like another ears I entered in that damn album and god damnit incredible by the way the light I
mean I know y'all love Drake here and I've never been the biggest Drake fanboy and I listen by the way the only person that's ever said that we like drink here beside more oh no everyone thinks we hate Rick my mother y'all love is obviously I love drink I love that I listened to the last three projects from the epic I consider Kendrick Cole and drink to the gods of this era like a back in the day we'd argue about big EJ and nods it's you know Cole okay Kendrick I
don't think yeah Drake again he was lucky that I didn't like Cole's last I didn't like it either I did not like free I didn't like more like and I think that was a contentious and lame or life so it was i well I want me to drink fans I'm deaf like he's not my cup of tea drinkers like Bryson tiller I didn't like the last uh Chico Elm I didn't like that out but everybody in a mama swears by royal icing I think that's the first time you all that a lot of
really great after you edited after you edit more like not for real that think that's why I call it a playlist you should edit it and it's very driven what did you edit drinkin interested I've never been I've never been a Drake fan like that and even records that I think I like of Drake I end up like them okay like I thought I really liked free smoke it allows on the treadmill like to like now just not gonna get me do it free smoke I said when I heard it I'm about to get
madami I'm listening your balls this is no no you know I'm a chill but when it's summertime and it is exactly added starters well I'm listening free smokeless sounds is the same almost ever what's the other drinks on energy or no ten banter now like energy laughter I do like it I like energy and know yourself but you know what I appreciated your hand and showe gonna kill me for the rest of the night but remember that record what you think when I was a Drake show that's
when I really understood who with Drake and when you throw that many things against the wall you get a big broad audience laughs of course cause you guys think he's doing R&B songs he's doing terrific rap like easily he's got come to very much that's the most diverse crowd I've ever seen in the concert that's why I mean I would open an operation I just want to understand how people don't like his music like I don't understand it if this time is this I
almost try not to like drink music I don't know it's not for me I got he's not whacked by any means it's just not for me like I grew up in a different era greg has been talking about the same for a little while and a lot of rappers I was gonna say that about a lot a lot but you've been doing it the same way 40 just amazing yes and that's my biggest problem with hip-hop as I get old like the artists that are that are putting out music I've heard it before and I've
heard it done better like I love the Hendrick Duckworth but I've heard better stories I grew up of NAS rewind yeah me but no buts each element does that mean that that takes anything away from that not always it don't but but it's probably weighed over to a 20 year old well Cheryl you don't have a pointer well I think it's an age thing for you because there are certain things that I hear that were amazing to me in oh three because I was 13 and just starting to love hip-hop
but you can't say that it's still it's still rated cuz it's a lot of regular I love that thing that I listen to what I don't like that was trash but to speak to Charlemagne's point recently I'm starting near rumblings of Kendrick is viewed the ways view in large part because of the field being the way it is I think Kendrick would have done well in any field cuz he just he just has the ability to rap no matter what and he's shown that he can be original in
everything without Isabel Kendrick in the nineties you're not calling emigrate one of the graph not night it was not of course not of course early still compete by the way that's not black by the way down when I was back let's get back to us real quick when you was going in on Yanni I'm like why is Jill wasting time going in on yadi understand Jill's passionate about hip-hop but why not celebrate all of these don't that Aradia we literally just had a 20-minute
conversation about don't like Wow can what yachties do it I do why and you say he died I thought you right now that is not true I did not say that I didn't say he dictates the coach said he's like the biggest you like it I said he's one of the hottest things moving yeah but you don't even sell records like that he hasn't sold a record he ever put a record out to sell okay as far as dreams go and as far as his business and its advertisement he's wanted the hottest
thing smoking here but he's still not as big as the people were talking about he's not biggest chance he's not big as Kendrick he's not big a fortunate but I guess I never whole I never spoke about him and that in that light but don't you think is quote unquote taste maybe we should be celebrating was dope and I don't got nothing to get naughty I'm just saying like your hip-hop pure is why not celebrate it well here's my thing with that and how someone that grew
up loving hip-hop could not like yachty it's not his music it's the fact of how when he came out he was very dismissive of the culture that gave him he was who he was he said Pete Rock on Twitter he was we hung about you know Pete Rock and he thought you I thought Pete Rock was just some guy from Melbourne and tweeting them talking I don't think we rock with in Mount Vernon you know be rocket Knight no but I'm saying I'm telling you why someone who loves hip-hop could be
mad at that because it's very dismissive that the culture that these people love and created and built for yachty to continue to move on and eat off of is now like I don't really employer I'm not even a rapper you know ah crap you know our man said that years ago so did Kanye and a lot of the you know why are in that contest do you mean I'm not a rapper Waka no talker I don't even I don't even I don't know the new point y'all arguing but I wish that I had
somebody to to speak to me that way when I was in yachties position like that's very alarming to me that that young man not only didn't know what a 360 deal was I was a yeah I'm uh I'm I'm on I know when somebody's bullshitting too much because you know the first thing he said when you said that he goes I don't know what is it like he was being condescending and sarcastic he knows what 360 deal is come on a minute that I disagree and you know I know I think that I
interview with yadi about a month ago way before he interview a job and somebody was like how do you feel about you know people saying you're not one of the best layers because I'm one of the best businessman he said that he said that on my show as well okay maybe I was in I'm not follow I talked about that that that means absolutely nothing to me that the fact that he said um because I've read body language I read mannerisms I read a lot of other I've words mean nothing
without definition but he said that and in combination with that every time he was about to speak he had to look up that's telling that's telling that says that a young man does probably not have eyes on the eyes you need eyes on eyes on me when I first got my record deal it was a woman who shall remain nameless and I'm not gonna throw Cairo under the bus but it was a woman that robbed all of us a behind all I heard about her I had but I had people that was watching things I have
people in place still happens when you 19 and you rocking out my delivery what else but when you 19 delivery loi I thought well yeah I don't want to have this after on the show how can I wrap it with that best how can I wrap a little one in such a terrible delivery when you're just talking to one I don't do well when when you're 19 you hate when older people don't do well feeling you you will never want to know other people

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away I never one guess and what I'm learning here on this on this everyday struggle which you spoke about earlier the more the more disagreeable someone is with me is the the big is the harder they want to come to the show I don't know why this slim Jimmy kid wants to keep coming up here talking to me I don't even know how I end up in OB quits when I love slim Jimmy I love but see I'm from the south so I grew up on three 6 mafia I grew up on Little John crying mob I love that
energy listen on that is a great Robert oh race nobody will say today not dope I said they dope back I'm saying to him however we would be a little foolish to ignore that people are saying the one problem I believe man I didn't make that up Suellen we going all the records they pop into the saying that Y is so what it's fine but why this kid wants to be for me so now I want to come on the show and talk about yo it comes a point in time when you got like I'm over

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ing with the youngest because we look stupid regardless because it's just really it's a generational thing extra what 20 years old it is somebody's got that true but the language if I'm saying is somebody and if I'm saying somebody hey I like y'all because you repay like oh you can't you know just really I like you when are you leaving show that emulate this family right what are you leaving slim jim budget like their music
that's what viscous that's a disconnect between you and academics the disconnect is you just don't respect him know an issue and i can understand the spectrum I can understand why you go after demux is one of those people I tell him this all the time and I told I told him this two weeks ago in private and said it in public you can't talk to Joe about things you don't know about its thing oh I've said all of this same things that Joe has lived that you just don't know
about and I'm down the school meet the same thing you've set up some school me on ugly god school and play board cardi all these new guys I'm not going to ever have information on he put up a list of the day he was like pick who you want for the double XL freshmen as I detecting like hoodies people you know a bogey and ugly guy I did not know the rest of him because I keep other I let rarely put me onto that I let AK put me on it I looked at when taxes on he'll put me on to that
kind of like I'm I'm that's not my error and Pleasant music is a feeling we all know that right the stuff we grew up on that so I can't get mad when yadi don't like a biggie up up cuz I don't mean anything to him it's just music it just sucks like where'd his young it just sucks if he's a sonically pleasing to me or it's not now but I can't say that shoulder man because I I listen to Bob Marley and I was one maybe when he died bob is a family know
that's what but that's what I'm saying so you at yadi hasta you can't say that he just because he's young he dont know I don't even like this one you were from Bob Marley I know but no I don't understand the point as I like you know I'm saying just because he wasn't there doesn't mean he can't catch that Indian respect that energy and that vibe in that moment yeah but you night we're not 1819 at a mosh pit dancing the Minnesota either I think about
when the first time you heard I can vividly remember being in the club in multiple in South Carolina called highway 52 and then playing wu-tang bring the ruckus when I was a teenager and how that made me feel like I just whenever I hear that song now it takes me to that moment I'm not at these yadi shows I'm not doing the drugs these is going I'm not in the crowd with them I don't so I don't feel the music the way these kids feel the music it means something to them it
don't mean anything to me mmm but to that point like it wasn't like nods I'm not choreo he's like nas can I just throw this out there he does I don't I love Abel you know really let me think does think everybody's like mom yes but the way like when nas came out he wasn't dissing the wave not the hippy it like there was still respect level of course nas was rapping circles around the earlier but he didn't come in dismissive like fuchal that I grow up when I
waiter we talk about I was just on a yachty being dismissive oh well that's what's the poor here to say about the young kids and how they're coming in got one charisma no disrespect for nas game in the game he was still closer to that era yeah big he's been dead longer than yachties been alive I guess those like so what if he has a wide gap that he's 19 big of a dead 21 no air gap is way wider like it's like like nas is was right there after rock him right there after KR
s okay I'll go with Jo's everything there when you came out in the early 2000s they wasn't disand a care as one but the lateral God was still active step into my world and all that was still acting le Denali definitely not scared by the way he 100% some element one that was a underrated battling underrated back every magazine needs to be Nelly the way do yadi now I know beloved and I really - y'all may not like that nadie around typically called Nelly out and said this is
what's wrong with hip-hop like this shouldn't corny of a carrot is that everything is wrong with hip-hop help me Joe Gorga navigates nothing - hip hop conversation with carrots or premier and Joe Biden you better buckle up you know it's not don't ask you know I'm negative long-winded I don't want to talk I don't want to talk to Nomad as you now Joe I'm long-winded Joe have you ever foolish oh here's with this usage is Joe viola have you met yourself like some
like I watched you at that interview when you first went in on drink that I was good it's hilarious that's how Isaac and it was in black and white and you home all things I make the mall thing some of the most unstable artists there is without question yeah it's not even close but it's nothing wrong with that not even close oh it's not a negative it is right now waving or go so Bobby there's been well we all just mean like rappers no MX every other day DMX I mean X is
my guy MX is way more to get entertainer like I think it's just cool for y'all to say that okay well I know why he says it I got this all figured out this I got help this know but you ain't in your music yeah but I feel like I say it for different reasons than you gentlemen every time I've seen DMX while out I know why DMX is well enough I'd had you while out and I don't know why my wife in Cornell Gela how often do I well honestly honestly honestly you give us a good
one every two weeks is right now it's about every two weeks how long did I know not really come on how long an everyday struggle Island have been on for months all right oh man so you better than that every week hmm I've given a little bit of yet the yachty was one that was you get the downward dog pose on academic twice even you shouldn't you is my way about who the hell I'm a noted most that is for theatrics I really don't know you'll knock it off that's
that's what they'll be like it was Joe and Cheerios Charlemagne desert you didn't but your sleigh both sides that fit what you said to now as you said it's a theatrics II I don't I don't ever want to become a character I want an Angie Han come on in a legend I don't ever want to become a character chilling myself like I don't want and that's my that was my other critique everyday struggle I don't want you to get caught up in thinking you got to do that all
the time well I wish you I don't think you're pretending or being a character but you do kind of have a character stick of being the person that says what other people would say that's not my fault that's what him flipping out women saying he just said he'd say it's theatrics I don't do that no I definitely put some sauce on sometimes that drink that read that great

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that was some sauce Joe needed getting it out that way that was so sauce oh the yachty I
never know I think that were on assaulted a violent but I had a bro I had a broader point man you didn't get to it I'm trying to say is anything in hip-hop that we need to hit that we have not hit I got in hip-hop do we care about well I'm not gonna say that right have we gotten everything off all this I'm trying to know I know you don't one of my exes and you won't tell me I've never in it what you play cuz that's what it is man I gotta get to the bottom of
where his consistent wouldn't it be of you falling home I only know one exs tears not sure that that is an answer though cuz Negus I didn't know that my hey and ten the book of who I am I just melted Harry Harry got a great idea for a TV show right away amazing why you didn't give to URI donkey today when she got arrested on a birthday inside a house I did nothing about it okay I did not you heard about it how did you know edit details have you heard about that I don't worship
Barisan got into a fight yes you heard on it so why should you get donkey we get into a fight she got arrested in her house for having a fire beating up her roommate on her birthday I don't don't you worry I'm never getting arrested in my own living room it was donkey word yeah no no I didn't know the detail you do enjoy it I didn't I heard I heard exactly what you just told me like what was all you did hear brick so you do hear a lot of details no I don't your days like
what was the donkey of the situation like I said I want to know like she got to a fighting route you're evil he's very I think we can remember you very understanding when it comes to certain people no I thought she beat up with chicken that she called the police on us she got arrested why is that so crazy in your house okay he's crazy not if the project goes although go get to the phone first if I'm beating you up you're not getting in my house we can't make sense of this
one John I don't see how this is that protecting your to hear relationships I don't have a McNamara teen I know yeah we're girls by the way but by the way who's from you by the way by the way I'm definitely gonna try to produce that show she got a great idea is it her and Joe on TV no Connor it's definitely not her it's definitely it's definitely not her and Joe but it's a great idea for a TV show that's the only Exxon oil in the orphan who's often in
is she bailed out Oh Charlemont down low where we just saw all times the Rory hole does it was the run away I don't have any extras Oh much have any extra set up new countdown I don't know nobody's on my nerves about you know the girl know we know I don't have any exes and we are I'm getting people's personal life we don't know I know that our Robin oh man I really thought you had Charlemagne is not given to hear a donkey of the day for echidna resting on a birthday
in our house because he's producing our television show and y'all telling me that she is not massaging his budget relationship here for Rory explain to me why should that get donkey we just said Charlemagne I said it tired all right forget about her fight pause I'm gonna go down your donkey list man and I'm gonna point one out that shouldn't got it okay just for you I mean um between the two I don't know I can't think know if it were me if it were me and I went out
to a club and I don't even like talking about this long but you full of and I went out there club and then I walked in my house and be beat up my roommate then got arrested and went to jail with my birthday in jail you're giving me dunk is your roommate a girl that's the only way you did don't you today did you sit on her stomach only way leave jokes on that suppose we fun ago I don't haven't given you dong kyun months and you've given us the material I have not the
honesty thing you could if it was a hole Newsday you could have done it put the Sloane high really not for the audience screaming at it what about if I definitely I actually been pretty good I've been out the news the Gretton that I could dismiss yesterday it's so underrated I I'm not paying that no attention man that's right there Dan the Jason Whitlock which respond yes he did was a good no yeah he has to click up he was like yo let's come together and help black people so
he'll meter Ebro wrong now I'm gonna say I'm comer you wanna how come the has a list of people that wanna girls up and be friendly when it's online right now go look at it he's like y'all wanted to clean the book I want to be the brain and just definitely book Wheelock is like I want to be friends and like let's help brothers and sisters and hope I'm like good and you want me they want smoke you like now I don't know it's small guys what you have thats
a fighter brother to say I am energy that you had any other time I don't come to me and click up mmm my cuz I don't have no problem giving anybody donkey today I really didn't like what Jason would like did like he really came to the defense to the white man on me but he really did some like overseas like he was he literally got on Colin Cowherd show and said Charlemagne is talking about things that white people can't handle so I'm gonna handle it for you I'm gonna deal
with him how you say that you seen up to the white man Brussels that's like the real love don't you run off the plantation mmm and sage still them two together not really family where do you stand on the ball of our ball and just a load of all around the speaker everything I love the ball ball ball ball is everything that we have claimed we want to be in hip-hop like we talked about independence all the time but as soon as somebody comes and actually wants to be independent doesn't
one of the nine irregularly endorsement deal don't want to sign a partnership we act like this crazy and I hate how everybody trying to make his sons rebel against him like what I would want it again is that when you're telling the signs don't listen to your father my father's gotten me to this point well now all the like you like don't even you know Avenue I might want to help though I do agree with you know an independent I think that's phenomenal what he's doing
do we think if Nike Under Armour adidas didn't say no do we think he would have signed a deal and not one independent we said what no do you think if Nike Adidas or Under Armour offered him a deal first okay would he have gone independent I can I go through hey they did off alarms on endorsement deal I didn't know I thought they all turned them down and that's why oh he was you wouldn't believe that if you want live all waiting there with the big ball of bran trying to be a
partner from the dough he came in with his own his own you know in a way I do you think he we're done is what I'm saying you think he would have signed if he went into Nike and they say yeah clear that's it he's already turned on the m's already I don't know I don't know that they're not coming back to the table of course yo if Lonzo get signed to the Lakers and balls out and brings the Lakers back to prominence of course they're gonna cut he hashed a ball up
he got a ball out it's really it's all online so everybody talking about look at the laws uncle that's the thing yeah but he's betting on his son as he should he should bet on his son I don't understand when we've gotten to this minute I go you are really some slave again really some slave minded work first take the check don't think about the equity later type of like that is sickness to me and I don't understand it like I don't have no problem we will
evolve all to do this I actually think Kobe LeBron Kevin Garnett they could have been change the game imagine if LeBron would have signed a two-year deal like you wouldn't have done that but maybe the winner that stated basically here LeBron has a lifetime view I mean it paid out for him now here's my conspiracy they're going to try to make sure that this fails because this will open the market for everyone they damage that is coming out of college with a phenomenal absolutely so I
think they're going to do everything agent and dynamic between sneaker companies and players wears out that's your concern very well and we're going to try to make him fail yeah we're acting like it can't be done Steph Curry's got equity in unknown right now yeah Stephon Dale turned down good but behind all of these names you have to ball out a bolo that's the bottom line section I'm not mad at trying to be you know entrepreneur and all this independent I'm
not mad at that but I do think is a way you got to do it though okay I don't think you come in and saying yo we want four billion ah it's like come on I like the fact the lavaud vocal or me I probably would have followed the 40 a lot of powers concealed my intentions until Alonso actually went okay improved himself okay you know I might I might I might even assigned to Maria did better that's what I would Helena that's what I was going to say to you Wow I think he's a genius
and theory not so much in action yeah because well he doesn't bow in the sneakers flop and what I'm going to do but the sneakers would have flopped or gold if he doesn't pull so this way you know they order if they don't that's not true I bought a pair you think all seekers would sell you did if he didn't vote no no no if he did he has to play he has to play what I'm saying that they if he didn't say his marketing plan now and they flopped when he's on the
court then it's just a flop now there's momentum moving into it this brand looks even better if he does good consider you know nobody knew stuff had equity in on Dom Allah you got a really go research to see stuff got equity in and Alma like a Mandela did the same exact thing they went to Nike they said they walked in there they had the same a presentation for Kevin Durant and they half the staff and Dell was like that we out and they went on to our man got that bag they got Marty
verse more I go and as much as people clown those sneakers on Twitter them shits sold that was one of the top selling submit was of the 14 billion yes if you balls out this year it's called it's gonna be the same thing any when the championship this year's gonna be the same thing mall has a very interesting take for all yeah I don't well I'm all is going to give us our insider basketball report and if you're a Knicks fan it's going to be disturbing yeah I want to not
believe a word that morale has to say honest I don't want to believe it like it came from a very credible source but everybody get rid of Christmas yeah they're gonna get rid of Mello the Lakers are going to get Chris Paul Carmelo and Paul George the Lakers are going to get Chris Paul called mellow and Paul George now that's not the part that disturbs me as an event is poisoning let's go on the ball but I'm Carrie he's just gonna easily actual trade I want that offended
me yeah I take one George and Chris Paul all of our want Melo we have little dang that you you yellow still a score you want you want him with that that was the angry angry room and like you still want to be want to I got a lot of young talent you still want to help that young talent groom like Ingram is the young talent right now reversed and and who and who do they dress Melo should go to avoid pay they train the pelicans or the Hornets who the is boogie in everydays on at the Pelican on
Orleans all ever known a pelican is our yeah Melo should go there that's the worst thing they okay mayor them this nut Anthony David not what Marcus cousins both kind of play mid-range mellow games not like they two big a back to the basket now they don't fellow can't play two three anymore so where you gonna play that yeah when I said put put Melo on on the Wizards laughed me off a Twitter maybe doesn't that way that default the false but yeah get him get I don't order
whatever that all right this is the worst place I've ever seen trash the only way you can make up for these playoffs is if the finals every game goes into overtime every single in the trash because it's more mall because how long at the mall because I have a theory LeBron is just that much better than everybody is trash because it's cut everybody clicking up on the same team oh yeah we know that definitely is that why we the Lakers have to do it they're supposedly getting
ready to do because you have to match up to the golden stage you have to match up to the Rockets the Spurs like you have to meet up to that man LeBron but LeBron is doing right now it's like I'm understand the Jordan LeBron conversation now I understand it now I understand it I don't think I don't you can skip over calm in this seven he been to the final seven years in the road you can't go bt82 it's going to be nine to anybody in the east why don't we skip over Kobe
Kobe without seven final cope not but not in a roto don't matter go no seven James and Ronald seven years in a row is ridiculous yeah like you got to respect seven years man that's not easy to do I don't really don't respect the Buffalo Bills go to the Super Bowl to redo all times or we do it like this why would I mistake that much harder in football I respect that but nobody talks about Buffalo Bills and they talk about the greatest teams of all the time more you thought in a
new way the that's put in the LeBron Jordan thing right no no Ethan listen boy let's be clear Jordan is the greatest to me ever but I understand how people are now starting to have that conversation I don't see how you go better on in my magic because I never wear one-on-one with HIV in one yeah anyone could have finals nine-time no bola he started bleeding he started bleeding that all-star game had to get a message away did yellow I want to see huh remember though he was the wind
big label guard man and know what that captain one would call Malone he was like I don't know - I don't see that on my farm bill called the target a bad rap man oh now you do get a bad I'll give it a bucks I'm gone man easy you also I believe you said what anybody was thinking he definitely said what everybody was thinking for sure I'm rolling with Kobe I'm not putting the bran in with Jordan yeah I'm just no I get the Kobe but I'm saying it's been comparisons
of Jordan Kobe already I'm you hanging out in too many locker rooms no I'm saying I under I'm saying that I understand the Jordan LeBron comparison problem with God like Jordan you can't beat Goldsboro like I can't like LeBron never be to be as good as your LeBron would be great though like John with the final six times and is undefeated you get that like that if anything what do you know y'all got a stop open it up you guys get it mr. Mike is number one Mike is number
we had to watch him beat you talk twice who we beat what Phoenix Phoenix what's up every watch wisely be the ones who would be way he'd be you've got twice you thought why to be Phoenix come on man no no no you said he'd be Phoenix you beat the Lakeland I'd be you just watching the Lakers want to be two Trailblazers the Sonics to Sonic that was it man no and they say we probably make up a little bit I know it ain't love baby I was super TV panasonic steam was not a sweet
pain yeah I can watch the trend was great they live that Phoenix team was like defeated King was like these Lodi teams now they had child bunkers that team was loaded and everything she's ever wanted to take Dan Majerle I'll Buckley's MVP years yeah Buckley she got Richard Dumas yeah I got Mike Mike had on slimfast you can't eat when I get it listen things in fact did progress especially with Yandy and Erica because really has been always we're gonna win I want romance love
it pop on Monday you don't want me on there Shawn Williams nobody knows Shawn Williams but he played for the next few years oh yeah he was with all the three-pointer oh yeah you haven't want you have a miss loving hip-hop though how now would never do that again well maybe dad was right like that you're like so entire industry what means you want to do love and hip-hop well for me I thought at the time I didn't understand anything about it so when Mona comes and you offer that
visibility as an independent act you think okay I could and I had to add my best independent year not just on love and hip hop but the other that came along with love any pop I would never do that again and now they couldn't even afford me to do it now no big news I didn't pay it I wanted a Joe

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finally accepting the fact that you're going to be industry your industry now are you really going to ever use it that's good to that before to sweepers I'm not industry
that's the difference between yellow and I you're going to be censored no I'm not you want to protect your relationship not and that gives you here edonkey today for getting the rest of our birthday that's not good enough I'm not I'm not doing how much this is the thing though Joe said I'm protecting my relationships you do to Harry dd-do I mean about all the relationships I could have to here Islam or religion a lot more beliefs like oh I'm being funny right now
be about it but you look you particular religion I already tried to listen to this okay no yes the you do you told me that you are in charge of your own promo running if you're putting this together it looks amazing yeah but it looks great you do have relationships you do realize when I go on these show your corporate when I yeah I'm America we're not going in shows whether it's the view was his first take whether it's Colbert I'm on they talking about 5% teachers and
I'm on this and the white man is the devil I don't think about that job I don't haven't heard that sound bite why I haven't heard the white man devil in front of the white matter I'm just a guess I'm not doubting I'm just an advocate I've got these are the conversations I'm we're having like you know they're asking me about stuff in my book Trevor Noah was like so you said that 80% of white people are the devil in the audience that was in trouble
did I saw that one yeah it was not white I'm coming out in front of the white folks I didn't say anything it's there what do you think about Kanye he's in the place he's already called GLC I'm like I love Kanye I think he's a legend but he's disappointed cuz it's just like yo you was that guy who was like so socially conscious you have voiced at the coaching needed like yeah I got stood on stage and said George Bush don't care about black people and
it's like you just said it for how you like Kanye and but I really is the definition of like what you would call somebody who sold the out yeah he is we just by passing we Bob back because we love him because he puts cool holes in t-shirt and not only that because it has contributed a lot to the coach ok even if he's decided to fall back I mean come on I would push you to have a solo career if it wasn't for Kanye like who else is gonna take that chance yes push you T would have a
solo career but at any rate as it is no nobody did you and not take away from his talent you just have Kanye West's yeah I wanted to say that nobody else did it Pharrell would have done it though I don't know yet out yet every operative done it I before L fell Mac who ed Ferrell you Pharrell fell best fried on that for as of late because he purposely has tried to I'm not saying frozen done but his interest is not in that space if a rail never falls back y'all don't think he
puts out uh a kid though I'm pushy album we're going on a tangible I wouldn't want to hear Pusha T solo album executor produced by Pharrell on any kind of I think Connie I think Kanye is more hip-hop dude than Pharrell I love her brother though but Kanye's like more traditional he gets it more when to be battle between the two Kanye what our question goes back to no no reeling it if anything I've been my blaming if it was like just blazing Swiss for a crowd just you know by
analyzing over grinding I just believe what would wreck listen what record does a yeoman to the life of Pablo right no I didn't know oh my god that's was probably most phenomenon said everything I must win that industry and you are I went today I would occur and just often in the crowd when she made this and I don't use this was the greatest show of everybody I would never go ahead good albums trash I didn't I would like that the album what better live okay with the whole
theatrics Kanye's got records that you can tell off a statement after imagine of Kanye plays we major what is Pharrell that that sounds like we made you remember really maybe by John that's a great deep but in a beat battle that's what you yeah we're trying rights are it's a great beat but in a beat battle that yeah a separate I for all to start grinding after a major whatever gain Kanye push can't tell me nothing on that's see that's the type of beat I would
think you would say not we major yeah is amazing amore nation it's not the me talk that I'm running to now we major is amazing million rihannavevo Neela's rest in peace when we first very first heard that be we've gone away amazing I'm not taking away from week I'm just saying can't tell me nothing would be the I would run to in a beat battle to go against I think well is amazing but I don't think him a Kanye clothes well speaking of Kanye GLC did go and
interview yesterday or today and said that Kanye's in a sunken place and the only equate success with acceptance from white people yeah go well I don't think this is breaking my AGL seeded to tell us that one well it was he went more into detail you can look at the interview and being in Paris and saying these things to him but I mean Kanye could make the argument that his interest has been within high-fashion and things that white people like yeah but that's why we especially at
your interest it was the kid in Chicago who cared was going on at the siren the last time we interview Connie on the replica did somebody tell you to fall back if somebody tell you next week popular issues and he said yes my father so it's like yeah i don't know i don't i got i think that's why i think things why not to finish with this chance what we hoped kanye was gonna be kanye jewels morning kanye jewels he just jewels us oh now you're going to drop a column on you know
no schedules and i can't say i can't take chances what uh we hope elongate early now exact because Kanye was this a and that's exactly my guy I got chance I got chance running hip-hop probably for the next fifteen years that's a highlight I do Nigel you think it from old mindset where older so we used to those long runs I don't think those are you yeah they're shrunken now so with that thank you to stay exhibit Leon a smaller area of artists I think Megiddo in Contra
Costa mm oh no they've had their own top run I'm projecting for the future chance till 2025 is going to be if not one then two in the newer crop after yes I mean I'm on record with yeah we we that up this year with the hottest MCs that I executive produced and had mr. Joe

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on but one of the better ones in the last however may yeah but imagined I'd widen because I don't like it you can't win like there's no way like no matter what winning it is no winning but
the point of that list is not to win it's to people so I did think of us I did think about going a top-ten lyricist like not not hottest MCs and sales and all that just bars but everyone's going to watch that the way they'd watch Hardison I think they would I think they would especially if you get it done in a deeper them you get people from the coach of the judges like I did Joe the judges I get Royce I get Jadakiss I get Scarface well you mentioned gay people that should be on it
well I do think that a few I do I do think a few things should happen I do think they lyricist lounge is something that somebody should bring back I do think that you or me or somebody should approach Beatty with bringing on when back um yo MTV Jams that's just some of the old staples in hip-hop that we had for this type of that you were talking about we still kind of need those avenues and those outlets especially more so now than ever you don't even want it so no because even when you
get to those conversations about those shows like that everything revolves around pop culture like it's never it's never going as long as those shows are being done by networks where you have mad executives who are culturally clueless it'll never be done right well never that's why the chief is here and it'll never be done right that's why if anything that's why you should be happy you got outlets like complex you should be happy that you got the titles or whatever
because they allow you that creative freedom they allow people of the culture to shape the culture it's impossible world but people would say that before you'll see you'll MTV raps people would say rap will never be on the radio and it eventually did I mean it can go different lines I got a thank you on TV raps was done out of wood out of a niche necessity now hip-hop is pop culture what would the internet I think you can create a balance with niche things and show that they get
millions of millions of use because there's rappers I've never heard of hit yo I don't care about what Jonah and eyelid we're just gonna challenge and respond to every thing down here we're on a pocket I don't need a wheelchair talking our no anyway here's siding on let's get you right this may not this is nuts because we're talking and when he gets a point off that the three of us don't give a about now we gotta say listen is why we're talking at
three and four months Insignia talking I'm responding one topic is you know are you an academic gotta watch you know it's running hey this is what happened here they're different outside show academics 1 what is fire going to happen to him on the floor nothing would get him to the ground quickly is what fighting would get down with don't listen actually now I need you to feel if I gotta find my smash no all right do you have your sleeper I got my sleeper oh oh we got to hold it
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because you celebrating was dope music was wack that's what we got to stop doing like I don't have a about little beaver shirt okay a little yeah that was a nice Bluff either like I don't care never felt this let's
celebrate this celebrate was dope in the culture I always say that you work for corporate top 40 focused a a collaboration don't shut up oh and by the way I'm the guy that gets on the radio and says we played too much drink okay I'm the guy I guess unreal says while we plan Bryson tiller again yeah but you drunk a trick bottle well I'm glad you said that we drink a toast right , Bobby play Bryson tiller uh uh yeah mom you just laid him two weeks ago you didn't play him
laughs yes you did I wasn't his record high was it after we remembered you got it on the record you got it more okay so let me get a notice no no go ahead I'm gonna miss you it's one of the four that he releases know some Bryson emailed him I bet you none of y'all listening to the best album that's out right now what is the best I'm gonna sell right now the god box by David Banner I haven't heard he's incredible I like David Banner like the best production
I've heard this year since Ross's up interesting really cool booster him him in a team you know David Banner scores movies and all that like that then is one of those people you don't hear from thought here getting bad no see look see I'm hella bag I I disagree I'm starting to hear from banner banner starting to have some outlandish tactics if the end I started to save some wild out there and I'm not running the ban all the time you know I do a lot of speaking
engagements ah you know I speaking to schools and some of my always he ban ban assault ban is always out and it's not even hot tape he just wants he wants me to buy black empowerment see I got to get better that you beat me it like being a better human at me when I clean up my humanity I'm getting you out of here as soon as I become like a good person you know that's what me an MP have you got on bro you know man we had a big feast because if n be too nice he's such a nice guy if
ya Joe some people like to be nice some people like happiness yeah like that's you be for that Wow people be pledged that was the wildest shooting that Yanni interview when Joel look him dead and is no way you're happy all the time be on the outside what I said but then there is not happy all time no joke because it's impossible to be happy you know I'm no problem still impossible to be happy neither I want to challenge everything right I'm knowing the challenges everything
is it possible to be happy all the time yes or no it blinded me in failure I send what you're interested they don't depend on it is humanly in popular we're all I enjoy we're older we got kids like what we look at life different than him when you told yadi that i believed our shooting blue that's what your values like I'm looking at the like Joe he's 19th you know well he gives a about our deal and I heard you said and it was such a great point but if he didn't
just finish saying yo I was he spoke about the struggle two seconds beforehand so that's why I said you can't speak about the struggle with me now now you're here say I was in college broke I couldn't eat didn't know where my next meal and then turn around and tell me that cars and jewelry is making you happy you know it's a disconnect I was about to dismiss his struggle until I thought about everybody struggle is different that was a struggle fam yeah yo college it yes
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I I kind of agree with both y'all on two different points I feel like where you was coming from Joe you were saying that you don't need a degree to be a content creator and that's that's a fact I just don't think Joe's gonna let dr. go near him that's right hey man there you go just doctors lawyers architects engineers you gotta get a
degree like you just have to you gotta go to you like you have to you could it just changing in time no doubt but when I heard y'all last week our debate and I'm like what that's what I got from it like you were saying at certain field you got to have a degree you were saying content creators don't have it exist well we need you here because if that was Rory for you to know particularly this you know you so tell me about networking my point wasn't my point where I'm all I
understood I understand what he was trying to think about fellas no no no rib eye working I would have brought up the doctor lawyer of rip if that was the argument I was trying I was course I don't think Joe is that stupid they need to be like nah doctor doesn't need a degree so I wasn't gonna bring that up we learned about more of the networking in the environment and things of that nature you got to say what you really mean and that's what I've realized habla people really
judge you based off what they feel on it I know I was definitely one of the things I've learned on this park and speaking of doctors I want to shout out to dr. love dr. Malek I got a year so they got they got him he's got a year he's full of though that's my god oh he's one little he tried to do with Joe did he tried to create content without getting a private is a prime example of why you gotta go get into it like an elephant ever do it he hate American green we need an

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on dr. love I love that show some of the greatest scams ever made on that we coulda just went to school Gockel oh yeah I put that energy but why were why when you didn't you didn't to get into a quick he went going to school fast money that's like Bernie's that's like Rocky however you go to school wait beneath is another degree I don't know no Lynette was you may go to cover news is what Lander Brittany I'm not would never see on the land of Hermes oh my
god no a love Bernie Bernie this is great edible she's the worst bartender we've ever seen a new mystery I just thought she was important because she needed a title I let me tell you we may dress let me show you guys I'm walking two dollars one night view is gonna try and get a drink from Bernice while drinking somebody Sydney securely thirsty I'm in one Bernie head working the ball and baby yeah she's working the mall he was not a tragedy we do now is anybody moving around
up now she was at 300 members whereas well said they can remember going in BB a meeting service by the way not gonna didn't even bother that I remember Angela walked me into a hot 97 party because we was out with Bernie Eaton is Ipek us used to have a restaurant of some yeah yeah and it was somebody from Hodge birthday and it was just mad people from hi there Anjali is the queen of mixi intercept and she's industry like oh my gosh you know that though that's my girl I'm
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pool boy why not I'm grown I have no business to the Joe button for sure I do it's like for the creators the content people the tastemakers and eschar domino spades they'll barbecue at the end of day yeah would bring you wave my wife would be there you know envies bringing his wife of corn becoming
you some people who come and you come in really come it's one of those I don't know what you heard about well that could take a picture I haven't heard then I'm not off of that if I didn't get anything else on this

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for quite some time and there's been plenty to discuss ebrill doesn't like you Joe him Tony I mean I am starting to feel like he does not let
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s of yours but you know no I don't think so I'm joking I'm critiquing the coaching look at the white man always trying to divide the book no you want to divide brothers - yes I'm saying yes but it's Dean I thought it was a chess move back it was not a judgment dance and language I just did with surreal

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or we are in via yeah okay be honest be honest be honest can be super honest do you respect exposition in
the culture yes because there is a new there's a new world of the internet and he's leading that it's amazing what he's done he's like especially all by himself y'all ever read American Gods if the TV show on still happenin the TV show on thoughts now amazing shows only five hours old as you watch it act is like wait I'm only on

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two I did started this show occasionally oughta god-knows-what yes oh you saw what he was in the car and got beat up yeah but I still
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that's the Internet God the show was about all gods versus New Gods definitely I was like whoa okay Thor Hercules versus the Internet money left little akka the Internet I didn't get either I read a book I read the book seven years ago I was never discrediting heck I was suggesting that those people in that world shouldn't call someone that's outside everyday corny Malone words only I agree with all I'm all I was getting it
yeah I get more friends you read too many books I mean I think they read a lot of books man when you read and write how it affects somebody specifically looks like a walk back got a little buggy book I like by the way that would be me that's what am i loving by Apple reading the book why not by the way with SPF 15 to protect my newly class can you develop the waiter you really be just content as a joke but you do look lighter a broaden its brightened not I got alkaline water is alkaline
water alkaline what I started to go see a dermatologist cuz I have mad skin discolorations I don't know if you are joking or not no I'm not but my mom calls me on she calls me two weeks ago to tell me that long story short her nails the mail lady told her that her nails are much stronger than ever been and that was her proof that alkaline water does something shut up man looking back jumping up and down that it does something oh and and the doctor told her that her knee sorry mom put on
your business Elliott because she just forgot to need a knee replacement some something is stronger and her knee would do to this alcohol drinking talking about water in mad vegetables and I go see a dermatologist bought the big guy I'm about to buy the Machine now you can't you can't tell me that by the way everybody neckline parties and children everybody if you hitting me ask me for my dermatologist info because I see two things that people do and they start to glow up a little
bit everybody was getting their teeth done which I haven't done yet I'm going to see a dentist to get my cleaned and straightened you know we got I haven't been gonna do it again there I've been got a hookup I think that's an occasion see are you gonna deal what everybody is like your who's your dermatologist want that good skin right here who wouldn't want their skin white people because they got good skin already allegedly not aged pretty pretty shitty like milk
yeah it's pretty seniors like milk how do I know if I if I'm with my skin is good or bad just get our mojo you need to dress monkey had another dollar irritated horrible need to stop smoking Demi come on and talk about limit I thought I thought a difference when he was on the problem I go academics getting fed not getting he looks crazy on everyday struggle I've never seen a good news before yeah no he looks like Simon not Alvin in theater he looks like something looked a little no
we wrote the fat one no it overs dog oh you know he's value no yeah I'm thinking the time of the told me yeah it doesn't look like Peter that's my dude or alright sleeper somebody give me a cleaver I gotta keep up all right well if the t-pain a little Wayne that he drive you looking at a watch this record toy I'm hurting it beat it though hey wait very like anything a girl whispering lately I've been trying to stop my but I'd be lying if I forgot a what I'm
blinded by the dance girl who would go to healing foot rate already see it smell like six over your secret yes sure and the plans Kurt's got on listen know that you just might have to class girl yeah so you gotta have your brain and with all the respecting the guts last exchange I got the bastard to weigh in in the brain faster than you can see the magma Bank erect oh oh oh D so pain is underrated one of my talents of every gene uses a few planes whole truck but I ain't trying to butter
you up I'm trying to you in the and let me bother you but we're manna run you like let me show you what so miss butter have you met her away brother I know he just watched oh yeah I'm your hurry up doing is why all I really so yeah I'm gonna do a thing not bad real construction hat we the other field with CB my male applicants have a meal with us did not feel widow's I want to shake my style properties work hard Oh take you lose promise I know how to love know what to do
with Josh are did you so much of a target I hit you with a Dutch opal faceted weight over really a good joke in the sixth inning Apple Pat sighs yeah no in deciding nah I mean absent though like greatest violent when you think is the greatest rapper a lot whenever at any moment that melodica the greatest rapper alive title yet keep up the greatest Allaah no rural housing solution enormous that makes Dave run is what did it one of my mixtapes is what Pro is your question was he ever the greatest
rapper a lot I mean greatest no hottest hos was always there during that run but there was definitely a case to be made because Wayne had taken over the world at that but I don't mean he was the best rapper life he was hot he was out he was the hottest yeah oh how did I mean I would never say yeah but we met but when you're the hottest over a long period of time doesn't give you any wanker actually rent one like he was just hot because he made pop records he crapped mixtapes showed
that he could run anyway and he can rap with the best I think Wayne is illegible Wayne is another one I'm not putting in that top tier greatest of all time I think he's greatest of all time based off his catalog and things but done and how long is running after that's where we disagree because I put catalog as the number one thing that when you bring cozy resident and go top tier because top tier to me is the holes you know nas pop big you know I'm not putting him over who you
take off that list of away know this Wayne goes on Wayne goes in the next generation of greats although all those people you just said of 90s people Wayne brand last decade him in 50 and jaw and yay yeah and yet I would say yes - Wayne with the 3 John got a run but it wasn't who's not sleeping on job bro yeah I would never I had a right job every was super it got me up so I'm a ranger mmm yeah directions been going on a lot longer do all my super this is my sleeper from the best
album out right now of the moment I want to hear this cool mic this is all smart - from the South I'm David Banner killing my bootleggers resident David Banner Black Thought and watch the duck is called who warning off to God box Black Thought a pop up just to kill you and remind you Jews are the team I got the word player wallets work ethic up support I was business to the future with a message from the more I went to war my weapons and the blessing from the Lord let's ensure that my
friend is more my ill-afford I got glad I'm taking my revenge like Roxanne my man playing in from Mississippi goddam jump off of anything ever did I did not stand we want to EXCI and be basically all we got BAM y'all know my lady Erica's down in here and cleanliness all the juices saying how we can try a little bit but they also heavy is crazy disingenuous like who need ahead of me and that's what type of bringing resolved for long tables and God pray for revival fate with the
five negative legal stuff like in LA paper whoever said we not at the top of the totem with smokers are more older you bring the ball or we back them and brought totem after it's all over I capture the fawns over back to the Mars rover then let's say so for come to ply me with the camp or contactable Google fellas that made the banner that's normal family regular folks like man a surprise box filling and white cooking posy stocking all eat a dick yeah I'm trying to eat get
exciting the streets crack sold over these people engine is Alicia's all slavery to me to God sock to up bro Stevens gonna end and maintenance I got eyes in your home I think you fail phone I think it doll appeal can they break my grandmammy then they call it God's wheel over my junk people Laurie and Rory they tell us that it's Prague I'm suicide in a coup that I go to the world up girl and lefty has a key to get free and I'm so strong enough to drag the stepper pumping
please see I stood it on the table not take a masterpiece a man with a rock band and on y'all's pills or little bit finicky and all the ala get wet it's the brain or the tech don't get the brief nuts yeah I learn a crap what a night you got be good encore if I clap your scalp in your piece touch going put your finger and triggered over me never he won't all right I just don't understand how we care about what yachty and all I'm doing that type of good is out there
bro Santa's deliveries very own oh my god like that was pretty elephant this whole album is phenomenal it's God I'm going to check it his last time was it the one with 9th wonder we could one FBI uh-oh the jury with 9 phone too long that she like remember the name of that out the knife is well nigh upon the project though ball will be playing belly now this is other side just are bumped into going through constituted the ban before - no not literally I literally found him like just
watching a revolt actually I saw his video and I so moles watching her vote Wow so did he gave you a bag and in town this is our Machine Gun Kelly no this is rolling stone P called no gun to read it yes he smacked that priest no never that was just help where what's this guy's name Rolling Stone piece called little do they know I like that little water right you gotta hurry do they know I'm not too pleased yes I do do they know I got to say so they do do they know I give a bad trick
they do do they know I came from nothing how are you follow your time from a hundred today all right place it down in the fire yeah judge Amer better look in his eyes are you seeing me use that breath all those that will won't in oh Oh little reason but I will stay to talk Jessica like a candy rumyana my loving you hit enough will be progress heart and arrow over somewhere building will appraise go go I remember a Jersey he's from Jersey Wow grabbing both ought to be and just part of
the corn doctor's Minister song is all I wit it all man but upon your age do they know I got to please this is majority do do they know I got to say so we got Heineman here - do they know ago of a very bad trick the new do they know I came from that direction why you lie before you yeah when a girl I go yeah play I play I see you're always gotta bleed us with the whole song by the way I'm very debatable that the South had a longer run than 90 New York at Harbor oh that's what I
said hmm you said that whoa ho oh you lookin at me I said I think I think the South has had a longer run and I think the South has had more influence on the culture overall because you know you had a rapper from Jersey sounding like that like this is the home of red man in Naughty by Nature in Joe

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and now he sounds like that around from jurors now you gotta let me make you sound like that I've learned that you think about designer from Brooklyn like the lines is blurred but that's
really without having changed no you had changed a lot from when your brand you had you had in the South trying to rap like that Alec I've never really tried to rap like New York goose there was just don't marry me out there exotically sounded different but they was rapid good imam never tried to sound like new yahoo this was rapping you name an elegant new york thing with comic goody mob and alma mater Tudor rate is but I say I saw the South changed it went from outcast and to get
music definitely change they're not anomalies because that's what the South was built on the South was built on that'll do it on the ghetto boys booked on UGK people that were actually rapping and hopefully yeah under your edge on yourself to does rapping not come from New York so came from New York okay definitely sounds like no don't sound like the I didn't sound like jay-z see I didn't the gig rappers easy didn't sound like nods I mean during the snap error they
was rapping more like a New York rapper would than someone from there oh man the South has probably had a longer right run if you're starting it from 96 outcast are you starting it from alcohol what Outkast Atlanta was not running things Outkast was just doing great with are you starting the other way we're getting booted at the social wars yeah I would I would started from I honestly would started from like 2002 oh they want to go then you lose no we thought it from there then I'm
not a talent I was running the network Rockefeller Murder Inc prime help me LLS first album came out what year 86 that's just it thrown out and how long was ll run as a rapper oh and that time i his run I'm just about the New York y'all y'all didn't talk about that either ll tweeted out um oh the meatball yeah I'm here which I don't want to because you're right on old we're gonna come off that way we're going to all I do want to but I don't think
there's ever been a rapper that's damn near had a hit in every single arrow it's not allow who's talking I mean not as a reasonable ll come on there ll from the beginning beginning all the way oh hello haven't had his nose ll threaten me on instagram oh so that's why when you put up the video of him boxing he was like you're a bully no it wasn't like when we quit boxes Molly Noel Ella for people but that fellow you love you oh yeah now that explain what your oh
maybe in the gym and it was me is whatever is donated all of our Destler ll beat up the Robert I came in as a another Adam I believe it Niall I'll you up not even hurry but he's not gonna you up in the booth in 2017 no I disagree so called you meatballs that's okay for me balls those don't be a funny day no okay I respect all your meatball that's foot all right I'm playing my sleeper and I'm gonna out of here this is up this is one C pain soundcloud page and this
call you don't know this has zero to do with Qi lang you're paying a lot of Lucky Penny me and your pain got a show together now you can hold a lot on what I do actually but yeah oh yeah you're over saturating yourself I'm not on the show the contents about to get trash out on the show give us you got a lot going on the fog cast uncommon sense The Breakfast Club the book 2 here is show noriso do you got a lot as well just leave already you realize I forgot I like all that you
told me when they called them with the mode from the words read read are usually going to be the greatest element so to take your a salt you realize that ain't nothing my beer but nothing like oh go go go go go go don't do a mark on my life go go go - it is no thought of Alastair there faster move on sitting neck for the best out they look care maybe it's opposed to it it compares that you'll notice you'll begin wrong see the mother got go you'll be getting wrong wrong
is every girl baby i a mother box bloody octopus with the really angle maybe chairlift just looking nothing like oh really already I don't really I can make you friggin did you what constants on it we're just talking me right on your girl but you may ask very great I'll be kicking super lucky you'll end up and me get on my feet hop let the IRB doing Street w900 you get you from here from a car's not that Eilen birthing job of another babe it's jokers job I'm a look at
you like go go go go dongho Jordan gone time or whatever now I had women how does the coaching not would he pay no more how does the label his label I blaming his label now I can't blame you label no more because he fakes review the point we don't even need a label at this one eye we should be with you don't know he'd remember that dope bad music t-pain I think it's still as talented as he's ever been absolutely if not more yeah I don't I mean I don't know how
to coach another with him the more I really think I would say music change but pain been singing that I think he could still find a lane within this a big popularity truck no no no I don't you took his trap you know I don't know obtained up because I think things could survive on his own musical you can go to Empire and pop off I don't know if he's out of that contract or if he's able to get out of their contract with jobs I don't even exist no more well they were
judge last time I saw pain in the studio him him and I were talking about his the label plans what the label wants to do yes he was playing fire after fire after fire and I'm sitting like when is this stuff coming out he's hanging on the label I've been disassociated from that patient I don't understand when you start talking about the label ah he's also great personality delirious just painting the

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mean well you know name is Shola main elevator copula 48 laws of power 40 18 or less you know or ignore equal nor he called me Salam Seacrest yeah I got a lot mean up another guy me know a lot of seeds are planted in the past couple years they haven't even sprouted I'd like it that's going to be the other thing that hits they gonna be like just got all these different shows that he's EPA yeah

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you what if so what do you think um do you think 50 will fare well as a
late-night host on BT I don't see it I mean I think 50 would be good if you had like a variety show I don't think he's are like a Jimmy Kimmel Colbert Fallon I think late night show probably will be a variety I need to be like a variety show he's going like sketches and I definitely can't see 50 going on interviews with nobody i I do like who would fit the interview like internet would be funny to everything that you would watch it adjust the position so be funny to watch I
think they have to switch it up like vowel dpns oh I would tell 50 like go do field pieces with people instead of sitting down on a couch like having a conversation like go out with somebody and do something I don't things really articulate there Charlie was really did you just say he's really an executive producer move I've been executive Urdu for everyday struggle for about eight weeks have you listened to me I can get this whole more right Leon and this is all just a theory good
all right I mean I'm listing behind the scenes man oh no you do don't think we're not popping up at complex in a minute you think that who's we like I got some things about the cooks all the main and the gods they coming Charlotte Charlotte may think my guy you know I will allow him in the building I will allow him I will allow my guy we've been we've been working on that for long I mean not a long time but about about eight nine months well what is it I think it's
great can't say yet but shut the up okay I am talking about I'm just your bigger vision if you guys I can't put that out there huh do we have any final words what's everybody's Memorial Day plans before we get out of here anything fun anything interesting than this weekend for the people that do not know like me if you don't have a check your calendar and know what date it is Rory got a hinny Palooza yes sold out already know something Irish and SP will be discarded Yoon
a little Irish pours you got to do is go up to the gate that's why I wish McNally economic mall I might go to Vegas Michael Vegas the Wizards wins no I won't Stanley Johnson birthday so we might celebrate out this snake of a Hollywood bring us my young boy why do you know Stanley Johnson he played on the Pistons would be there oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I liked him a lot yeah I like it a lot is he still good as your bus no well I was wrong one of you would I got a quarter million in the
mattress understand I wish I've been trying to figure morale out for at least I went any years man so at least 10 years good I want to thank Charlemagne again for coming thank you for having me

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platforms I will fire academics before that happens shouldn't happen ok no no that's my guy no we need him we need him no we don't none of them and we need him to be good we need Joe to focus and we need Joe to respect
academics actually stop the problem in this situation Joe yeah everyday struggle depends on you debatable well you look at comments it's all people I'm here academics I'm here academics not really if him I've not anybody starting to like Joe but I joke it day they're so fickle let me be very clear with y'all and I told more before this

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or the industry should have gotten rid of me when they try to damn it they shouldn't because they wanted me gone and now
I'm here I ain't here to be liked I don't give a with them YouTube me to say about me honestly I think you and I could doing the right thing by bringing their listeners along for the ride though letting them know the issues letting them know the things y'all don't like the things y'all don't agree on it because we live in an age of transparency you got to do that yeah I think the next I think the next five to ten years in broadcasting and media and journalism I think
you're going to have to be Ron uncut and I don't think it's I think we're an Information Age frantic consumers are more than information they want information we always should have been like that do y'all realize everybody who cut through was like that PD green star Howard Stern Wendy Williams what do you think the stars run oh I thought you had a great run I thought Saul was one of the best I don't like how it ended was it too short of a run cuz not we I just don't
like how it ended like I was tell me what time to be startin you got like you got to be started not like the ending is very important to me well I let him tell me he's doing what he wants to do and making money you ain't he might be but I know I don't want to be let out of the radio station in handcuffs and that's not a diss to start all I know he was taught he'll take you too much too close man but I think so since his wive and walked out it walked out of concerts and here
credit I think saw his when I always sight stars influence I think thought that's fish but it was it was too short of run when I was upset when he left when it was Starbuck in Miss Jones that's probably the greatest radio show of all time like a morning show to me that we don't yell every door oh hello Jones together that was phenomenal Mia were you miss challenges competition at one point and feeling what we did y'all work together I was maybe I was actually has no comment Jones
a few times I thought you said you know when I got fired when I got fired from Shirley I had like the number to show number three show in the city yep absolutely I liked him squashing the

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but I think you know I think you're gonna be on Vlad's couch tomorrow so actually I haven't done that in a long time I think you I don't think I love lab but I I don't I can't do letting Vlad is not a friend of a black man he's probably hearing this now but
that's my guy but it's just you in if you listening it's like I don't like the direction black morning well just like I just know like it's just certain didn't agree with me a lot of stuff I used to see on him like would you why why are you going to see like echoing what we say I knew had morals on me for discussion yeah that's why I'm sitting here I'm just listening man like I've really had Charlemagne peg go home that's what I did that has been my
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with Charlemont I think you know that's why I'm listening I beat with Charlemagne is who I think he is and sometimes how he comes off it just don't matter this is Charlemagne what am i any other time what a model I don't know you are you are socially conscious you are you are all of these amazing things which God got this other side man watching this guy me all the time my god I gotta have a conversation with like Dante was gladly turn real did you see when you have
Ron browsing no refresh me yeah we're all browsing on and he has wrong because Rob he didn't know that that was Tupac at the beginning of uses only a a so he had round table girl I would have six o'clock quick we asked him what he added if I was alive when you two came up but I don't know about it it's y'all 40-plus that's crawl he doesn't know y'all give that clown ass face in this culture man why don't you like glad know like why don't you person I
don't dislike him personally Gladys actually with my man but you know the last election to sign I don't I don't like him personally but I am I always have problem with a that start some and then sue when I get dick that's one so I didn't like I entered the raw situation but totally outside of that I watched him do some sneaky backhanded sheisty shady things to people that I loved while their life was on the line and just because crooking them forgive all that I don't
I ain't as forgiving it's done got some industry I don't know what you're talking about so so but I was but it sounded a pretty I give anything well it's it speaks to and this is years ago this is I'm talking about 2010 2009 2010 so recently we're seeing all of these people speak to Vlad's lack of whatever he does I don't know what he does now cuz I don't check for that but he was doing it back then and he was doing it with real Street involved and it
just cost some people you know can't talk about really here not having I don't move I don't I don't with him because you're not gonna execute you're not gonna behave that way I just I hate that Megaman hey I gotta have a conversation of lat either that's because I consider him somebody that's my guy gotta have a conversation and so many images that I have respect like I respect star star speaks very highly of leg that's actually I respect you you want to be
very highly less which is I love Lord Jamar Lord Jamar speaks highly of that I'm like y'all saying something different I don't think Vlad knows the things he's doing is detrimental to the coach like I don't think he's purposely playing y'all Madhu I think he's really just looking to get hit but he doesn't realize he's gonna get one as I don't as I see him but you can't as soon as I see him he got a few of them coming his way I got the money to the
side why you want to hit land what does I do cuz I'll put any interview that went in on Jordan I know another to your Google well no actually it's him well ours history is long and I don't anything about it yeah I know I've been telling him off for about 10 years now that long yeah it's all on YouTube Angela Yee show before there was a Twitter Angela he actually is the perfect person speak to about this because she's the one it was her show where I'm calling what
we're being Vlad basically had it out it's all online thing was 2009-2010 and basically I was staying there is this your idea of journalism like the chip that you're reporting about the that you're perpetuating the that you're instigating like for real my like if this who you are and this is when I was with so I mean I learned about him rather quickly I think the rest of the world about him now and it's cool quiet for me I just don't like I just don't like
some stuff I saw a couple things I saw last year I'm like yeah I ain't it I get out known personally but I that stuff when he put old boy talk about murdering and I was like I don't need to pay you know like there you go by the way that led to real happening in Atlanta yeah that I know of so it's like I don't know whatever I did my problem with let it leads to real happening and then your disposition is very different I'm very different than and I'm reporting the
news that's farther now you're giving someone a platform that once talked about murdering someone's child that's not okay and that's not journalism and stupid yeah yeah listen where's that ox this was great I have to end with Oh see what you're gonna hit let's go Bob Black River I don't know if this audience reached but a black those who created is out right now we just don't know cook an hour like you this please attend read every damn well if you like

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I narrated my own both of them well so you know it's been it's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for four weeks in a row I love seeing the culture line up for books where they line up for yeezy is in Jordan yes because book did be honest what you touched on shaman issues to really fronted on me like they didn't put out a lot when it when they first dropped you know and it sold out politics here and they haven't been able to keep up so that's the next thing
where do people get the audio version i to amazon bond the nobles where were you buy books no no the just the audio version not the actual physical book amazon i don't know they had more I'm ignorant man I thought you get everything audio from microfiche I don't even know if I think so okay you told me something up during our Twitter exchange when when you set up the Grammy nod that you did the audio what did you say committee you did the audio and it's a little bit like Annie
nominated for Grammy yeah I didn't know I didn't know that that was new information to me I didn't know that but I mean Brock Obama got a Grammy like you can like Joan Rivers got ones like our audiobook like I didn't know that either but yeah so that would be dope for the coaches I have to support Charlemagne getting's Grammy and moving up in his career even though I'm gonna catch his ass yeah you're not going to catch me because we're not even though you're
better you think we go to jail okay we're not doing the name rings yeah I mean listen I want to produce you I think you got great I want to I want to also affect you got great ideas for our movie I guarantee I would just see his all got a greatest murder mystery a biography I know he does I do I know he does no fiction he watches way too much CSI and all that other I can put in a certain order to tell who can be a dope filmmaker style to be a dope filmmaker prodigy from mobb deep would be
an amazing filmmaker Joe will be in am a can tell I can tell you would produce my if you wouldn't worry about that - here you go - here we go when I'm out okay I'm now watching that show