Podcast #113 - Ghost Theories

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let's talk about ghosts okay we wanted to talk about ghosts because last time we talked about death and we will maintain it. light this month guys it's exactly Halloween time it seems completely appropriate and you asked for it so this is your fault too so next week we'll like we're going to go even darker and then darker oh wow I'm ready .

Here for this I'm here for this Okay, so what I did was uh, I went on the world wide web and collected some

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and simply discuss each one. I like that, oh my gosh, he's in heaven right now, so let's start right, first of all, do you want to go over any ghost stories or do you want to do that later? I don't have ghost stories, but I know you have a couple, yes I have a couple. Why not, why not, why don't we go over some of these theories and then you mention them later?

Okay, sounds good. So the first theory is that ghosts are spirits of dead people, mhm, okay, basically, it's pretty simple, someone died and now they're in the Earth world in ghost form, mhm, and I guess this can happen for several reasons. a house is haunted by someone maybe something happened to them in that house um or in a certain place a person died what is your opinion on all that? Because I know it's a very popular theory that ghosts are spirits of the dead. I feel like dead people, so I've seen my fair share of Ghost Hunters and stuff like that.

I feel like they are people who don't die for any reason, there are some things that happen and then it is also their energy and it will surely happen. like a certain object or place, you don't hear many ghosts that roam freely in the world and you know, do whatever you've heard of people saying that they are limited to a specific yes, claiming that you know a The ghost follows them in some places or is attached to a person you know or a place or a thing, um hell. I feel like when I talk about it, those things don't have rules and they don't, uh, but for the ghosts, the spirits of the dead, I feel like they're their energy is like it's somehow attached to something that means something to them or a person or a place or a thing, but I totally believe in the idea that ghosts are spirits of dead people, yeah, um, so that's probably the one you would probably align with.

So yeah, right off the bat, but let's jump into your experiences, what's your take on what happened? Yeah, so I would say one of the first ones was I was at a camp for girls called Wells College and it was like a leadership camp for young teenage girls to go and cry about their feelings and learn how to be adults, so we were all girls. and we stay in the dorms and the campus is relatively haunted, uh. You know, they tell you all the stories when you get there. Some of the stories were like parts of the dorm used to be an old stable that burned down, so at night you can sometimes hear horses.

One of the rooms also burned. He was someone who was a writer. You could hear a typewriter at night. That's crazy. There is a bridge that crosses the campus. It was said that someone like a widow was waiting for the thing from her and her husband was cheating on her, so he stabbed her. him, a lot of times the lights at one end of the bridge would go out when you crossed it at night, but only when you crossed it it's not like they just flickered, um, the strangest thing for me was so in upstate New York, where There's Wells College, one of the stories was in the winter when there was like, I don't remember what it was, flu or pneumonia or something and a lot of people died and you can't bury bodies in the winter because the ground is frozen so you can't bury them. can you dig them a grave so all these people were dying during the winter D from illness and so they had a room where they were putting the bodies of people Jesus Christ, that's a lot and they painted the door bright red, um, so they could know what room was and they didn't go into it and every time they tried to paint over it or remove the paint or anything, it would peel off and the door would always be red, that was strange. one doesn't really sit well with me.

I don't understand, like they tried to remove the red paint, yeah, and it wouldn't come off, no, and they tried to paint p over it and it all came off, oh God. God, yeah, okay, that's pretty crazy, wow, but I was there and everyone who was, you know, not for or against ghosts or whatever, they just hadn't had any experience with it and it was kind of creepy like you hear all the stories um and I was saying in a dorm with my friend who I went to camp with at the time and it was really late and she always fell asleep right away and I'm not like that.

I stay awake and reflect on the universe. I was lying in my bed and my roommate was asleep and suddenly it felt like the end of my bed was really sinking like someone was sitting on it and I looked at it and you could see an impression like that. It was dark but you could still see enough, yes it's your room, yes I know I'm just saying it's okay so it wasn't completely dark so you felt it and then you looked and saw, yes because I'm lying on my back. like that and I'm looking at it and I don't know if we can ever get into it, but if you've ever had that experience like I've had experiences like that in my life where the only thing I compare it to seeing a ghost or feeling like you see a ghost like if your body shut down out of pure fear as if you couldn't do anything.

I wouldn't want to yell at my roommate if I wanted to, I could. I wouldn't sit around and freak out if I wanted to. I was a little paralyzed with fear when I felt someone sitting on my bed and then this part is weird, but I looked up over my bed and there was a color like Mountain Dew. cross on the W like the wall that was lit and like the windows were closed everything was off and there was a cross above my bed and it felt like someone was sitting at the foot of my bed, well, wait, wait, so the cross existed in the room it was just lighting up no it didn't exist it was nothing it looked like a projection of a Mountain Dew color like a yellow green cross on my bed that's what I'm saying it doesn't make any sense I and it did It looks like a physical object or a projection, no, it was just light, it was so the next morning I woke up and thought I finally fell asleep.

I don't remember falling asleep at all. I just remember being scared and then. the night passes I wake up the next morning I tell my friend and I tell her this is what happened to me and she was like I was awake and she saw the cross above my bed and she thought you were asleep and you weren't I didn't say anything, none Of the two she could do nothing, but she did not feel the person sitting on the bed. No, it was just me. Did you tell him? Yeah, what she said she was freaking out, obviously, she was over the top, over the top, nobody.

It was over the top, there was nothing funny about it, okay so explain to me what you think happened at each level of that situation, I mean there is no rational explanation for why there was something like that, here's the crazy thing I'm going to cut. . Go away, I'm sorry, okay, I'm sorry, I know. I asked you a question and then interrupted you. Only here is what to me is like I haven't had a personal experience with a ghost. Just no, it hasn't happened to me, we should. Go get yourself one, but when I hear people I trust say that I swear this happened, it becomes real to me because I trust that you and Rome told me that once and you know wherever we were, she was telling us about that ghost. and she said, I swear and I said, “it's okay, I believe you, so keep going.” There is no rational explanation for an illuminated cross on the wall.

None, yeah, I mean, maybe I, I just can't explain why you think it was a cross. What type of object could it have been? Do you think that was like asking me to assign some meaning to this? Yeah, like what, yeah, no, if you just say no, no, it wasn't satanic, the cross was No the other way around, honestly, because that campus is so full of ghost history, like a lot of things happen that are okay acquaintances, it's not like you were completely surprised when you found out, but I wasn't scared either. For it to happen, I was afraid at the time while it was happening because I believe ghosts are troublesome spirits or people who are still there.

I don't know, hey, hey, hey, hey, no, that's true. Ghost that's against the rules for this. Ghosts against the rules um because I don't think most ghosts want to hurt you uh they're just like maybe wrong or they get attached to you or they like you or maybe they don't like you um I think there are bad ghosts but there wasn't some kind of presence. menacing about it, you know what I mean. I look back, present, yes, if I look back at it and I had to assign some meaning to it, it felt like someone was watching me the whole time.

Because that was one of the original reasons, I guess I forgot to say that I wasn't sleeping or when I was sleeping I wasn't sleeping well because it felt like someone was watching you in that room all the time. and that's not something I can really explain any other way, it's just that it feels like someone is watching you while you're trying to sleep and you have your eyes closed, you know you like it, sometimes you wake up with a start or look around because you're like it really feels like someone is watching me, the feeling of being watched is a very different feeling.

I've never had it with anything like that, but I know what you're talking about, but I honestly think that if I wanted me to assign any meaning to it, I just felt like it was someone's room and I was in their room and they just wanted to make their presence known. presence, yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, um, that's interesting, it's just interesting to me these experiences like As much as I don't really want to experience something because I would probably take my pants off for it, it's like I want to experience it for myself. so I can go places I don't want to go, that's a booming tourism industry, you stay in these scary old places, not for me, like you know how to ski and it's not for you, just no, no, for me, yeah, I mean, it's really scary while it's happening because it's nice when you watch shows about ghosts. and those things, a lot of them explain them in measurable forces of energy, you know, ghost hunters and stuff, when they say the EVP is that's the sound.

I forget what the energy is and how they see white orbs when they take pictures and stuff because it explains. in terms of energy, so if you follow that idea simply by being in the presence of a relatively haunted place or area, you feel it, you know it, but you can't, you can measure it. I guess if you have those tools, but even that doesn't prove anything, all you follow is that you feel this presence, you know, because it's energy. Yeah, um, another theory we can move on to now. I guess it's one that's basic. One more ghost story.

It's not even long. Simply. If you want to relate these two theories, you can go to your ghost story, but this other theory is basically similar to the last theory that it's the Spirit of a dead person, um, but it goes along with it and the theory is that as if There was a certain event that was recorded in one location in the world forever as if it were recorded in the universe and so small remnants ofstories that I feel like I've read and seen on TV of people who are like this, it wasn't a ghost, this wasn't, you know what? it's that they are possessing something or someone or they are demonic in nature and they don't act like a ghost, like you want it to be a ghost because they just don't care, they hurt you, they will actually scratch you. those are physically physically damaged or found with yes and it's not an incubus, I'm not saying, right, I can't, no, no, no, no, it's when a ghost or not, sorry, a demon rapes you, oh, tip , of course, this is a real thing that exists those people this is how that whole season of American Horror Story was um which one in which the demon rapes the guy oh in the hotel the drill yes, we didn't do it, we didn't finish watching that season because I hated it.

It wasn't for me. I didn't sign up for American Absolute Shock and Gore. I signed up too much, too much, we didn't finish it, so after that drill scene we like it. Sorry, we can't do this too much. for me and it's going to take a long time to bring us back to that band anyway. I haven't started watching the new season either because I feel like I'm so exhausted that we can't be alone in that. Anyway, I think demons exist because of what people say about them and it really ruins what I want to know.

What if you're a person who experiences ghost rape or at least thinks you're doing it right, it's not a ghost? rape it's a demon it's very different you think you're a demon but it's invisible true like you can't point it out be it that's not it that's not true at all there are people who claim that they see them well so here is my question if a person experiences this or they think they have it and they go get a rape kit, what's in the rape kit, it's probably nothing crazy, but they have visible many of these people claim that they or they show that they have visible like scratches and bruises and things like that. about them, but it is not like that.

You can't explain it with a rape kit. I guess I guess so. I'm just raising questions here. No, that's a valid question. In your mind, if you said an encounter with a demon on Earth. with a human being it looks like this, what would it look like in terms of the demon in your mind, if you just said like I don't know, I saw, I saw a ghost, I saw a demon, what's the difference? I think it's okay. I feel like traditionally people have described demons as combative, as dark as they are evil, like they're not just a lost person and, you know, maybe they scare you, but also people describe ghosts as if some of them are very fearful and withdrawn. they don't want to be seen they're nervous or they're afraid, but I've never heard anyone explain their experience with the demon as if, he's just lurking around like they're malicious, they want to do harm, yeah and that's okay, so my question is if, if they , if that is something like that, what causes it to be a really bad person who died?

People think that angels are like you know your grandmother or people that once they get to heaven they become angels, but I think there's another theory that angels are completely different, okay, and you can't, you know. , die and go to heaven and become an angel. angel is like a tall angel you know yeah I definitely like it and I don't know they have names Michael from the office yeah Michael from theice um and so people don't turn into demons they're demonic forces they're entities that They are not human at all if that makes sense where the negative energies come from, I mean I don't have the answer to that, I know, honestly, I'm just asking because you know more than me and have a better idea, that's okay.

I think if you believed in angels or demons, that would imply that you believe there are beings in this world or interacting with this world that don't come from this world, so you can't really explain what it is. It's just that he is a demon. Do you think demons can exist in human form? Yes that's fine. That intrigues me. I think of all the exorcisms that happen cross-culturally, like people claiming they are being possessed by a demon or being. A demon bought the bed or there are stories of people claiming that they are possessed or that someone they love is possessed and you hear them speaking in tongues and you know, doing crazy things, oh it's terrifying, yeah I think it's possible for a demon . take a human form and I don't know, not even go unnoticed, that's what's crazy to me, I wonder if I've ever met a person so miserable or so terrible with Energi that they were consumed by a demon when I met them That would be crazy, you never know, you never know, right, I mean, maybe it's a crazy idea, but I really believe it because I've accepted the idea of ​​demons just because of the sheer volume of people who claim they exist, so you know well enough for me, uh, I think they can possess a human form, either the actual body of someone they could possess, you know, Julian, or they could manifest as a person, uh, wow, crazy, right, yeah, No.

I want to deal with the demon, yeah, no, but that's why you know the whole Ouija board and stuff like that. They say those things are really bad. Even if the Ouija board is just a little Mattel game or whatever, but the ritual of asking the spirits and asking people to come visit you, if you're not prepared or you don't come with peace and you don't come with the same light, you run the risk of opening a portal or becoming a portal for demonic entities to enter your life or affect the people around you, do you feel that is legitimate?

I think if you go into the aij experience with the wrong energy, you could absolutely be yourself because it's not the game itself, the game is just a means, it's a path, no, but you don't even need the game, we could just be sitting here holding hands with some candles, wondering whoever comes to visit us and talk to us, and in doing so, opening your energy, you can in that way invite anyone or anything that wants to come to this room, be careful what I mean, well, my friend in high school, her mom was a psychic and she literally had this game called Psychic Circle that we like to play and it wasn't ours. everything but it was like maybe it wasn't the psychic circle, I don't remember the name of the game, but it was like you light certain candles, you do things a certain way, you open it up, everything has to be very open, very. friendly and there are really specific steps on how to do things and then everything closes at the end you can't say oh my god this is scary, oh and then run out of the room, yeah you have to close it or else you leave it open that open energy and anything that wants to come and hang out now is welcome to just flow, yeah, and if there are steps that you can take, if you're opening up, you know your little group and you feel like there's some kind of evil energy really horrible comes in and you can close it and make sure that that energy doesn't have the ability to manifest inside the room.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but this is just my experience, yeah, there's no wrong answer here. I feel like this is all based on experience. All this is even for people who have had no experiences. It is my experience talking to people who have had experiences. Obviously, let us know in the comments, uh, like. your experiences or whatever and if you agree with anything that we're saying, um, I feel like if you know even this discussion, I think one thing that I've learned over the last few years I think being with you has impacted.

This is a lot to be respectful of the whole universe of ghosts and all that because honestly, mostly out of fear, I don't want to be that person who scoffed at the idea of ​​ghosts and this and that. like I'm stupid and then I really have a scary experience like I don't want that um and I think that comes with I don't know how to listen to you talk about it learn more about it think about it you know, just trying to be a little cerebral about it, open about it. I think what helped me the most with ghosts in particular is imagining if you were a ghost and I know I've joked about it in the past like if I were a ghost, I wouldn't just do it. see someone when they needed me, I'd be there all the time, like I was hanging out, you know, just doing what I want, but if you were a ghost, you know, maybe you don't know what's going on, maybe you're so scared like the person who is seeing the ghost is like that, if you look at it from that perspective like this, this thing is not intentionally trying to scare me like you can feel it maybe they are maybe they are combative maybe they don't want to be around you, in which case leave them alone, but a lot of times they just need a safe space to be a ghost, you know, they just don't want people with them and I feel like I can respect that, I can too, you know, because If you were a ghost and you were like that , this right here, this is my elliptical and if anyone comes close I'll kick you, yeah, wouldn't you say okay buddy, this is yours, man, I'm going to put this on wheels. the garage and only you do it Mr. ghost, yes, what a ghost, what's wrong with that.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, maybe it's just me. I have a long theory that I discovered, I can read it, but the theory. before that they are basically just ghosts, they are professional projections of the person seeing them, wait what does that mean? If I'm having trouble with something like um, I don't know, I'm basically projecting the ghost into my own reality because of my own experiences. If I'm the only one, the only argument I have against that is that it wouldn't explain multiple sightings by multiple people of the same Apparition, there you have it, unless they're projecting the same thing, but that's unlikely, no. like those big houses, you know.

Plantation houses where, yeah, we see a girl or a woman in the same outfit and they can all describe her the same way, you know what I mean, yeah, um, no, I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think the people I really see the same ghost totally I don't believe in that one uh so let's finish with this one, this one is a bit complex, it's called the mask of Reason, quantum theory of ghosts, uh, from Professor Max Bru PhD, I'm depressed, uh and it basically says: I'll read it a little bit. Ghosts are created when observers of Old Testament emotions create a semi-permanent indentation in the quantum tapestry of the universe, like the aroma of burnt toast, that lingers long after the offending bread is discarded.

Hauntings are impressions of emotions that remain long after the cause has been resolved. Ghosts, therefore, are not formed from the dead, but from the living and their interactions with the world around them. The record of events within the subatomic tissue gives. They arise in a residual image and depending on the intensity of the emotion and the permeability of the quantum state, different types of ghosts can be created. Negative emotions are much more likely to cause these effects. The reason for this is currently unknown, although it may have to be that way. to do with the quantum spin of the universe, how are you thinking about this?

I don't believe it, okay, I mean, maybe that could offer something, this is long and very, it could offer some logical explanation for why, suddenly, when you live in your house for 10 years and you start seeing ghosts, it can be fine, but that doesn't explain the millions of people who have seen something like a door slamming or a chair moving or, for me personally, a bed moving and sitting on it that doesn't explain the physicality of some of these supernatural experiences could EXP maybe maybe in some sense it does but it doesn't fully explain it no that doesn't explain why a door slams I don't know you didn't notice the door slamming honestly I wouldn't completely rule it out so I wouldn't say that that's completely improbable like who knows who knows if you if if ghosts are really just perception, anything is possible, you know what I mean, no matter what it's like now, that door closed okay and I'm okay, that door it closed.

I was here. I saw it. I heard it. I felt the wind. You did it too, but what if it's like a tree fell on you? Does it fall like everyone else in the entire world that we could tell that story to, but maybe it didn't really happen and maybe we were both in the same energy at the same time and perceived that it happened in the most visceral sense? that we ever could, that's possible, but my only problem with that is that you have all these people around the world that you meet when you say you hear a story from me or you hear it from Rome and all of a sudden that becomes real.

I haven't heard a single person tell me any ghost stories. Everyone who has had an experience can tell you and swear from head to toe how real it was and how everything really happened and that it is not a perception of why it happens. to many people from different cultures around the world, all I'm saying is that I'm not, I don't agree with this theory, all I'm saying is that I'm the Devil's Advocate, if you think how you want, trust your own experience. maybe just maybe your experience is perceived you know what I mean as if it's not real MH it's just a thought it's a thought I'd like to not just dismiss because I like it I just think it's interesting to entertain that's anything but me I buy a kind of idea of ​​universesparallels and I would buy angels and demons and I would buy uh PE as if ghosts were dead people.

I buy all of those equally and in their own way. I don't buy things. in a loop and I don't think that's your perception. H, what do you think hell is? It's just that we already have a different

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. We talk about it, yeah, we last, that's right, that's right, yeah, yeah, Aichi, that's true, wow, that's crazy, yeah, that's crazy, I don't know, I just It makes me think about the last podcast a lot more now that we're talking about, well, you know what Purgatory is. Is it correct in theory where you go before going to intense prayer or yes, or your next destination, so what if the Earth in your spiritual form is purgatory and I am currently in purgatory?

No, when you're a ghost, oh, oh, I got it. they haven't moved on yet the ghosts haven't moved on so that's your purgatory and you know any business or energy you need to let go as soon as you do you get to your next destination which would explain why there have been some ghosts in In some places for years and years and years and years like hundreds of years and people claim to have seen the same thing happen maybe because that person or energy has not yet refused to let go and they are in purgatory or their perception.

Time in purgatory is very different from what it is, you know what I'm saying, if a ghost exists for 100 years on Earth, maybe for them that's like 5 minutes, yeah, totally relativity of time, yeah, um, I forgot what was going on. say something about the ghosts of purgatory, never mind, I don't know, I lost it, yeah, the idea of ​​your world being another being's Purgatory, that's a little mind-blowing, because that means you're currently experiencing what a person is like. . living or existing after they have died, yes of course, that means we are in heaven, we are in hell, we are in a place where dead beings exist mhm or maybe they died in a different universe and Earth is their Purgatory like they did it.

They didn't even come from Earth, they came from somewhere else and then ended up on Earth like Purgatory. It's crazy to me, but I think they're real. I feel like people who don't deny that any kind of supernatural thing is happening. on Earth who deny everything, like the same people who are like humans, they are the only beings that exist, right, yes, and I apologized on the last podcast, people were very angry with me and I said: I'm so sorry, I chose the wrong words, but why? Were you because I said atheists who believe that human beings are the end, everyone is everyone?

I should have just said people who believe it really has nothing to do with atheism, no need to shoot at atheist Jenna, apologize, sometimes you're just sitting here talking, sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone guys, relax , I didn't mean it, but again along with the ideas, it bothers me when people say, yeah, none of this is real, it's all fake. I'm like, but there's a lot of things you can't explain, yeah honey, no one can explain them for sure and maybe just maybe just say maybe I don't believe in ghosts, but there are things that people can't explain or don't like.

I don't believe in ghosts because I haven't been given reasons to believe in ghosts, that doesn't mean I definitely want to violently say that they don't exist, yes, violently, nothing exists and I will be the first to admit that I was. No, I wasn't up there, but yeah, I was definitely at the skeptics party before and you know, I always thought I was like, yeah, okay, an adult talking about a ghost story, get some of this like really um. and I'm it's not really something that I think it's something that I have uh it's a belief that I've matured in a way like I've learned to keep my mind open in this sense when I really felt like I didn't need to be open, you know, but it's That's why I find it interesting.

I also feel like people are the majority now. I feel like people who now believe in ghosts of people. most people now believe in Gs like I don't know what I'm trying to say I just think like unreddit and stuff like you know when you like it you're among other people in their opinions and then you can understand what the majority feels and what the minority feels. For me, I always felt like the minority were people who believe in ghosts and now I feel like it's the complete opposite. I feel like a lot of people think that might also have to do with Reddit's changing traffic demographic and that there are a lot of young people on Reddit and I've been saying this forever about Millennials and little kids, now people who are into Internet, the people you see. on Twitter, people who consume online media because of their exposure to the Internet from such a young age just know things like aliens, ghosts, conspiracy theories, healthy skepticism towards the Authority or things like that, they just know things and It's amazing to me , like you know that all it takes is one or two pieces of evidence and they don't, they don't have some life-changing thought change in their mid-40s, like they just like, oh, this is something that exists great.

Okay, I'll get on with it. I really think you might see it because of the younger demographic on Reddit now and because they just know things and say yeah, totally why not, instead like I don't know. I know it still doesn't fit into my worldview, so I don't really believe it. You are absolutely right, of course, that is entirely possible. I think that's one of the most important characteristics of many Millennials: they are open to anything. and they are and are aware of the fact that they are exposed to a lot of information that people who are closed to technology and a lot of things like that are not exposed to children in their access to technology.

They touch literally everything within their reach and they take advantage of it too, yes it is easier for them to be like that, it is possible because I have seen many things that support it and that deny it, whatever it is, but you know what it is My opinion, it's one thing. That may or may not exist, but that's why they can make such funny jokes, man, because they're just aware of things. fun read and also tell us what you swear is true so we like it I swear on my dog ​​what does that mean? I can believe them, okay, Jo, okay, like I'm like, uh, I swear on Peach, this happened, it happened, I'm not going to swear on Peach if it didn't happen, so just swear on something for me, please, okay, not really.

You don't have to do that you can just tell us your ghost stories unsubscribe if you don't swear for nothing unsubscribe thank you all for hanging out to check out another spooky podcast yeah it was fun it was fun and um , I don't know. I just believe in many things. I'm open to a lot of things, so if you have a healthy skepticism about everything, feel free to express healthy skepticism. I like I'm going to tattoo that on my forehead now guys if you want if you want to send us suggestions for the next spooky podcast.

I'd say we'll keep it spooky throughout the month of October. Deaths and ghosts. What will we have next week? We must also make sure. we do the second part of both, I think at some point this and the last few weeks I feel like there's more, yeah, well, although we talk generally about ghosts, maybe we could do a podcast that was specifically ghost stories, yeah, or something like that Maybe we could have a guest with a lot of good ghost stories, something like that, totally um, but yeah, let us know suggestions for next week's podcast. See you next week for another one.

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