Podcast #180 - Secret Societies

the people who think they are part of the Illuminati, like they hang me in a giant triangle, like they think I'm part of the Illuminati, they are graves, people talk, they sure do it well and Also imagine if you were like all those satanic imagery and stuff that I feel like pop stars add in there and then people like the Illuminati it's a message, it's satanic, imagine if you like it in a world where you got, I don't know, brought. in the Illuminati at one point thereIt wasn't a big meeting and everyone was wearing hoods and you were in the middle of the forest and whatever and it was the official meeting of the Illuminati, it's like Jay Z was there and everyone was, you know, spending the mm-hmm and they give some Something really vague like this is what we have to do and now you're responsible, here's our symbol, whatever, and then they would disappear and then maybe that was it, maybe it was real, maybe Maybe it was a scam, regardless of whether there was no follow-up. was done on behalf of the people who ran that event, maybe the people who were there at the beginning said, "Hey, let's keep it up and keep being like you said, let's keep using the brand to get people talking about it." mm-hmm you seem so unimpressed by that theory, yeah, I don't know, I just think maybe there was a piece of tangible evidence that they experienced and then it disappeared, but they were like, hey, let's keep this because it's cool mm-hmm, yeah, yes, but it has no basis in history that they are the original Illuminati, which is Rhett, why are you looking at me like that?

You are not sure? Yeah, I just told you it's not even real, they broke up in Europe and the 1700s, okay, let's move on Julian, what the hell are you doing? I think you might be fine. I just told you. I know, but that's what I would say to someone who is in Illumina. Sorry, do you want to go over the rest of these or? you just want to argue about whether or not I'm in the Illuminati. Are you OK. I feel like I've always understood what the Freemasons are, but I've never really read their Wikipedia page or gotten any information about them. how they started and who they are, you know, I mean, yeah, okay, because I always compared them to the Illuminati or something like a very

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group of people that you know do, but apparently they don't like it.

According to Wikipedia, it is basically the largest and oldest fraternity in the world since the mid-19th century. Masonic historians have sought the origins of the movement in a series of similar documents known as the ancient charges dating from the Red Jesus poem in 1425 to the beginning of the In the 18th century it began in medieval Europe as a guild of stonemasons, but continued living as a social organization and that's when you started to see people joining these things called lodges, which is like a building in local areas where people go to have meetings of freemasons called lodges when where they go they learn something like the history of the office, the oaths of fidelity that you have to take to join and in the 15th century there starts to be evidence of ceremonial insignia and similar types of rituals and that type of thing, but I It will continue to be private, also private.

Yes, there is no clear mechanism by which these local trade organizations became the current Masonic lodges, but the early known rituals and passwords are the same as the passwords used later and in different areas that did not practice a physical trade, for what you. They don't essentially look like a 2k knockoff version of Mason and Freemasons, they're still wearing the same traditional things as real Masons, they're just showing up in different areas, so they're direct, you know, descendants at this point of the real ones . The Masons are direct descendants but modern, yes, because the moderns stopped using the physical art of masonry as part of their ritual, they kept the name in the right place, yes, the oldest known Lodge in America was in Pennsylvania and then after the American Revolution the independent US Grand Lodge develops within each state, people who were Freemasons include George Washington Ben Franklin Winston Churchill Mozart Davy Crockett Franklin Roosevelt Harry Houdini Gerald Ford Henry Ford John Wayne like the list goes on and on and on and if you want to be a freemason you basically go to In a lodge, then you demonstrate good character and a belief in some kind of Supreme Being, you think that almost everyone is male for the most part and then they vote to accept you or not and then there are three degrees that you have to go through and once you get your third degree, which apparently is also where that saying comes from, like the third degree which is masonry, you can join any other Masonic branch, they built 22 children's hospitals where patients don't have to pay a cent and donate two million dollars. to charity every day, the Catholic Church and on top of that they donate two million dollars to charity every day, yes according to Wikipedia that's a lot of money, yes how do they get all that money?

I don't know every day, every day, God, but I like it. Unlike some of the others, I'm not here trying to call Scientology a

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society or a cult or whatever. I'm not trying to criticize anything that scares me, but it's like an organization like that. I'll see these people being incredibly rich and the church has a lot of money and that kind of thing, the Freemasons tend to take a lot of their money and use it on charitable things like maybe a church like a Catholic church or like a show. Are they doing community service basically, yes, yes, so there was a secret society that likes to do charity, which is not common apparently no, it could be, yes, yes, so my question is does your secret society have Any trade name or company? making these donations or how people monitor how much they're donating or how they legitimize or verify any of it.

I don't know the size of their secret society, I mean, but that's the thing is that for the Freemasons, they don't consider themselves a secret society because people know who they are. I guess my question is legally, what is the secret society? Yeah, I mean, the Illuminati secret society is a secret society, but I do, the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians like these people. identifying with these screws is not a secret society, I guess from what you're trying to define, but its inner workings are secret from the public. The kind of inner workings are secret, so the name is not a secret, the fact that they exist.

It's not a secret, okay, I get it, whereas if you're talking about the modern day Illuminati you'd say it's a secret society because even just their presence or existence is a secret hmm, right, yeah, they donated two million dollars . to charity every day, according to Wikipedia, the Catholic Church, along with many other religions, were opposed to Freemasonry because they teach a naturalistic, diurnal religion that is in conflict with many religions and the 1917 code of canon law explicitly stated that Joining Freemasonry meant automatic excommunication and banned books that favor Freemasonry, so you can be expelled from the Catholic Church if you also want to join a Freemasonry society.

Historians estimate that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons were murdered under the Nazi regime. Inmates of Masonic concentration camps are classified as political prisoners and more Inverted red triangle Hitler believed that the Freemasons had to turn to the Jews who were plotting against Germany as he has done today in the US that has 1.3 million of members and in 1959 it had about 4 million, so it is getting smaller. Wow, that's interesting, yeah, and it's just based, as we know, it started in Europe and it's in the US there's one to three members right members of Merica according to Wikipedia, interesting, they have that's like a triangle like that, yeah, they have like a compass and they don't come, yeah, that kind of thing, yeah, and I mean the conspiracy theories about the Freemasons are fantastic. the way they build buildings and things like that, you know that when you see all those conspiracy theories on aerial maps about the way Washington DC is formed and how it's formed, like you know the Masonic symbols and the builders of the dollar.

Masonic symbols and all that. this and we had that

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talking about Francis Bacon and he was most closely associated with, I think with the Rosicrucians maybe, but also free me and it was actually this, if you haven't seen that

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, it's going to sound like a crazy mess, but It's actually One of my favorite conspiracy theories is that Francis Bacon was actually William Shakespeare and that he actually wrote all of his works to bring the language and culture to Europe so that they could inevitably take over North America and rebuild it as a new society with education, language and everything. be unified really there is if you want to think it's a conspiracy there is a part to if you want to listen to that I think that's what we did itself and again it's like it's a really fun theory I think there's a lot There are really good and cool things, even if you don't think that's what happened, but he's basically on that theory too, it was like all the Masonic symbols that were built in the United States were pretty much from that same hmm, you know, yeah, school. of thought, it's interesting that they wanted to build the United States, it's some kind of Masonic utopia, man, does it feel like a utopia these days?

Really, speaking of utopia, you're talking about the other day, if we could find enough people who had enough influence. In the industry, we could relaunch Utopia 2.0 with the original cast, just add a couple of twists here and there and have that come back on TV or, honestly, have TV put it on the air. I just want to watch it again, let's make it a new Netflix original, yeah. I really want to see it, I don't know, but I know that that show started like in another country, in some European country, it was very important where it started and then that this was the American version.

I wish we had defined the original version as Danish or something like that of the show, we could this successful version to be able to watch it successfully like this in this situation, so if we could find it with English subtitles, then in this situation this is like the office, but where ran the UK version. the other one, the others are just killing him, yeah, like but it started there, it didn't start here. I guess that's the difference, we were the scam, but we also failed, okay, you're ready for the next one, yeah, so this is probably one of my favorite secret

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why did you do that what you had I didn't say hello that was my secret are the Rosicrucians between 16 14 and 16 says I just wanted to read first because we are talking about secret

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for something to be considered secret society they have activities, events that interact or memberships that are hidden from non-members the society may or may not attempt to hide its existence the The term generally excludes covert groups such as intelligence agencies or guerrilla insurgencies that hide their activities and memberships but maintain a public presence.

The exact qualifications for labeling a group as a secret society are disputed, but definitions are generally based on the degree to which the organization insists on secrecy and could involve the retention and transmission of secret knowledge the denial of membership our knowledge of the group the creation of personal information bonds between members of the organization and the use of secret rites or rituals that solidify members of the group cluster. Wow, that sounds exactly like the ideas of the sequence, yeah, well, I mean, I just like what I like and what I think attracts a lot of people to secret societies.

It's like speculating on what these rituals are and the things they do. You know a lot of people when they hear the word ritual, they automatically say this is satanic, this has to be bad and I feel like even things like this are some of the most famous, some of the most popular, but there are secret societies that they just They like the most horrible things. There are probably so many of them that you wouldn't even know they're correct and I feel like a lot of the cults like that. the most famous cults that you know, although not all of them, but they like a lot of the really terrible ones that just do unthinkable, indescribable things, they get eliminated by the government, so I don't know if they've been called cults, but I imagine a lot of them probably They could also be labeled as secret societies because there is something dark, anyway, the Rosicrucians between sixteen, fourteen and sixteen, seventeen, three anonymous manifestos were published, look, this is like he was already here, I mean, if he is secret, okay, first in Germany and then. throughout Europe were the fame of the tightest brotherhood are see the fame of the Brotherhood the confession of the Brotherhood and the chemical wedding of Christian Rosa Cruz were and are not taken literally by many but are considered as hoaxes or allegorical statements the fame of the Brotherhood presents the legend of a German mystical doctor and philosopher referred to as a father brother later identified in a Christian ethic Christian Rosen Rosenkreuz or Rosa Cruz presents the year thirteen seventy-eight as the year of birth of our Christian father and it is stated thatmembers when members die, yes that is suspicious because that means there is an incentive for them to kill the members, yes.

They take money from their states, wow, they're edible, this is yeah, where were New York, Manhattan, New York, mm-hmm, yeah, if you're ever on East 35th Street on a Thursday night, apparently they line up and Are you preparing to have a meeting? where Tom just stands in the center of a room and yells at them how many members there are known to be around 200, that's it, yeah, so they have to leave. This sounds very convincing. They have those people lying around in Manhattan. I'm getting busy. They're gone from that Charlie, what the hell? Okay, the next one is called Church of God with signs below, that's the full name.

Yes, they are better known as snake handlers. This fringe Christian order takes an often misinterpreted passage from Mark and uses it as a pretext for an incredibly dangerous practice: believing that snakes are a manifestation of demons. Believers pick them up and lift them into the air, even allowing them to slow down the entire body naturally. This makes the snakes upset and dozens of snake handlers have died from venomous bites. It doesn't help that they refuse medical treatment believing that God will put the poison on them based almost entirely in the south, although there are some sects in Canada, too.

Practice a form of aesthetic sanctity that eschews extravagant clothing and alcohol, practicing foot washing, and speaking in tongues, local legislators have made snake handling illegal for religious people. Although these laws are rarely enforced, it is believed that there are between a thousand and five thousand members of the Church of God with signs divided into autonomous sects around the south and southeast. What is foot washing? I think it's only when you've washed yourself. your feet it's like they don't shower it's just like a foot washing ritual okay that was the weirdest part about that one of them yeah what about people who just died because they think god is going to expel the poison? of them, I mean, it's preemptive, a little bit preemptive, which also sounds like a lot of crazy, there's about 5,000 members and they live in the south of this country, but it just says that the south is a big area where Julian doesn't you know why don't you look for it, okay, you are ready for the next one, yes, okay, this is called economical in the Eckankar car.

I don't know if I'm saying that right, it was founded in 1965 by Paul Twitchell, this non-profit religion bounced around. around a few places before settling in the suburbs of Minneapolis, like many other New Age religions, Eckankar is a treasure trove of mysticism. Eastern philosophy, meditation and invented iconography. Members who claim to have ancient roots dating back tens of thousands of years speak to each other in an invented language and new names for themselves, all of this is done in the name of meditation, where one has the opportunity to separate their soul. from her body. This is my favorite part.

Are you ready for this part despite being a registered nonprofit? The group sells materials to its founders for huge profits, and accusations have been rife that virtually all of Twitchell's books that lay the foundation for economic Eckankar are plagiarism, plagiarism, yeah, dude, dude, dude, he says, you know what We're making our own Bible, but wait. I have to come back right away I have to get it. They're going to print some things. I will be back. It costs $100. That's good, but it still exists. There are still people who practice Eckankar. Okay, this one is called children of God.

David Berg. who called himself Moses David founded the organization called Children of God in 1968. The so-called Jesus Movement was gaining momentum in the late 1960s and many disenfranchised hippies were ready to be elected. Berg started his first colony in Huntington Beach, California, in a similar location. Colonies soon sprang up in other states as well as in Europe and South America, members were required to renounce all their worldly possessions and the commune and cut all ties with their families at first, so coltie them, yeah , the beggar members are tricked into converting money to pay for food and other supplies, but as their numbers increased, Moses decided they needed to earn dollars, not coins, so with many attractive young women willing to do his bidding, the The answer was simple: why not exploit the world's oldest profession?

Berg called this fundraising effort flirtatious. Fishing as a result of his unique interpretation of Matthew 4:17, Berg officially banned flirty fishing in 1987, primarily due to the growing AIDS epidemic. Yes, Children of God has changed its name several times in recent years after a barrage of bad publicity, including allegations of incest and other abuse. Berg died in 1994. The group is now known as Family International and is led by Stephen Kelly. is somehow a worse name than he calls himself King Peter weird and creepy international family is still around the children of God, okay, this is the last one that is ready, this one is called the children of the anthill, most of Canadians consider Roche Roche's burial.

Sorry, I'm going to slaughter. The first area probably wrote Roche Theriot as one of his country's most notorious criminals, but his devoted followers still call him. he Moses in 1979 set up a safe camp in Burt River Ontario in preparation for the apocalypse again let's look at a topic Charismatic and politically savvy Cara attracted a small group of followers who called themselves the children of the anthill, all of whom were seeking a spirituality. salvation and pure existence, the nine female members who were his concubines were to be subordinate to the male members of the group. More than 20 children were born into the group in the following years, many of whom were fathered by Roch himself, yes, but the group was won over. money by selling baked goods door to door because Moisés had officially registered his commune as a church.

Provincial officials could not do much about the primitive living conditions to which members were subjected; They could only make sure that the children had warm clothing and appropriate clothing. nutrition had a drinking problem a superiority complex and demanded absolute obedience from his followers such unconditional submission led to the death of one of his wives when she allowed him to operate on her stomach ailment another follower risked her anger when she fled to en hospital after he slashed his forearm with a knife in a fit of rage, it was that act of brutality that finally caused the authorities to swoop in on the anthill.

He was convicted of murder in 1993 and sentenced to 25 years in prison, which he was denied. Paroled in 2002, but he has fathered three more children during his years in prison as a result of conjugal visits with some of his remaining faithful few. Is he still alive? I think so, yes, there are still people who follow him and think that's how it is. what psychopath cut off a girl's arm, operated on her stomach, that's what it's about, what's the name of that guy's religion? again, the children of the anthill, okay friend, so further on, that guy is not good mm-hmm, it's no wonder it's a secret society, right?

No one is going to approve that, no one is going to go, people who don't, no, the best secret society, it would be like I love eating large amounts of pasta, Emily, what is pasta together, yeah, we would call it macaroni on Monday and it would be Be truly enlightened about what your secret society would be because mine would literally be about eating pasta. Mine would be for people who like to just sing made up songs to their animals. It will be the most annoying secret society. It would be great. I can find people. just like me and would find money like mine, you know, who would be the first person to join my group, my mom, yeah, she's almost like my mom, yeah, although Gordon Ramsay would be a disaster, even society likes you those secret societies.

Foster, yes, the history was great, but I'm also interested in seeing what exists today. If you walk down the streets of New York, you can see those people. Well, it's true. It's interesting what's on Wikipedia. things you can find on the internet with tangible information like information on her current whereabouts or whatever that's interesting hmm what's also interesting is I'll just say that for the next couple of weeks I'll be on the lookout for that email from Jenna's podcast and Julian. to see if any of them come closer because we're talking about him hey, what's up?

I'm a Mason, how's he doing? Maybe they're looking to partner with us, okay, let's play. Hey what's up? You were also sponsored by the Freemasons this week. sponsored by the Rosicrucians register today or you will never be invited again still waiting for the Illuminati to contact us uh yeah that was good thanks for looking that's all I just want to say I know there aren't many similar comments out there it's very interesting to hear a true narrative, but it's real, yes, but it's real, it's also terrifying, verifiable, but I feel like the main thing they all have in common is that my mother grew up in that era, you know. she was in her twenties in the 70s and a young teenager in the 60s, yeah cults were like a real fear, I feel like she knew people who had been in a cult at some point, like when they were young and they liked them.

I liked it. They all have the same thing in common, which is like being separated from your family, that's the number one thing, yeah, and like any kind of external contact and it's probably distributed like any kind of independence or power that you could have had us in the void. normal human. I mean, it's kind of like what Scientology does in a way, it's pretty fun, but yeah, darlings, yeah, scary, that's not good, we'll see you next week, bye.