The Worst Sponsor I've Ever Dealt WithJul 16, 2022
hey i just dropped the first new episode of a series about more butter where i look at
everything and anything with nostalgia from the first episode. I ate hot sauce and tried to guess old cartoons from their intros. It was a lot of fun, so go check it out. so this is a bit taboo to do as a Creator, but it's a great story and I also have enough spite in my soul to be okay telling it. Some people have been curious about some of my recent comments about a very specific
sponsor. the one i used to work with and besides foaming at the mouth from gossip that i'm not above it, people also ask me why they support this company and would like to know if they shouldn't be.
I'm not going to jump out the window and tell you that my crusade is not to diminish your business, I just want to talk about some things that randomly pop into my mind that bother me, so this is just my opinion, my experience, and my review of the very popular influencer endorsed caped company men now a
sponsorgives a Creator money to promote their company and manscaped sponsors a lot of content from influencers and i won't drag other creators by name into this but i will say to through my time talking to other creators without even asking them directly manscaped has been the most complaining backer and it's not even close so i was thinking to compare.
You should first show them what a good sponsor looks like. This video is sponsored by Helix Sleep. customized to fit your needs conveniently shipped right to your door we all sleep differently some of us on our backs some of us on our side some of us sleep with others some of us shouldn't be sleeping with others some mantha Darren will find out for you that's why that Helix did the sleep test to pair it with their perfect mattress and based on my results they paired me with the Helix Midnight Lux and let me tell the audience I've had it for about a month now and I personally have the full size sleeper I I like the medium firm sleep and I haven't slept in my old bed as it's really the best bed I've
I know you might be a bit hesitant if you can't lie on the bed before you buy, but Helix sleep gives you a 100-night sleep trial along with a 10-year guarantee, there are financing options, flexible payment plans, and if not e If it's the right mattress for you, they'll pick it up and wash it. for a full refund you can click the link below or you can go to helixsleep.com Mr. Gigi for up to 200 off your Helix mattress plus two free pillows and thank you Helix sleep for sponsoring this video manscape is a company that specializes in grooming products and the like they sell electric razors to cut pubes ass pubes Gooch pubes whatever is ruining the airflow in there and the cute charm of all the ads influencers do for manscaped is oh this can be TMI but uh do you ever feel a little stealthy and down there I know I have that's why I have the loom Ray shut up I'm sorry this experience has made me a total hater even though I know I've done ads like that I saw a manscape product at Target last night last week and i wish i got the footage off the cameras just by turning my head all the way i stood there like two minutes just disappointed with Target and the Congr that so in early 2020 i started seeing some influencers advertise manscapes and i was like oh this is my thing.
I'm trying to get all the Fleshlight endorsements, all the Adam and Eve endorsements. I still want boo sponsorships. I just like to see what I can get away with it's just a sick game to me but it's fun so back then I actually contacted manscaped and applied to their team of influencers which I've never done but really I wanted to associate with them. back then you were selling bald deodorant that's hello Larious and it will be used high key. In fact, I would use their product before I officially partnered with them and it passed my little round of QA so I thought this was perfect and then I got a response back from them.
I think it's just a copy of pasta that was offering me 250 bucks worth of manscape products and the loot wasn't even money. I immediately denied it, but it turns out they were looking at my Instagram and not my YouTube, so I backed off and ignored the disrespect I thought I just received. i contact the youtube side and they ask me, what is your rate for a 60 second integration and quick note? I'm not going to use the actual numbers, but I'll give you precise ratios in terms of request and payment. I said ten thousand dollars is my fee for a 60 second integration.
They responded. We have analyzed the average engagement rate of your number of followers per post and the frequency of posting. We've compared its metrics to many of our previous influencer campaigns. led your price point and it's going to be hard to hit ROI that's your return on investment we'd like to offer you four thousand dollars for your first campaign with us this price point projects a good performance as part of our first campaign which then it would unlock the ability to have ongoing campaign engagement with you as part of our smiley face Premier partner program if all sounds good please send your shipping address plus jersey size so we can hook you up oh man this is my penis twist rereading this so a few things to point out in that lovely reply from Conti you said you looked at my post frequency I've done a lot of sponsorships right now and I can say with semi-confidence that it doesn't matter how much time off I've taken or how my loads were inconsistent money stayed the same so i dunno manscape do you like billy crystal because Analyze? plus me In a calculator like wow it has a great personality plus two but somehow at that time no other company has hit me with the ROI workaround even now then they try to lend me to accept this price for the first time campaign, if all goes well.
I can unlock the ability to have an ongoing engagement campaign as part of our Premier Partner program stupid smiley face y'all ain't as dumb as I am right all that kind of gibberish is laughing at me right now Premier Partner, Hey? That's about the same stature as being in a McDonald's drive-thru and saying yeah I got a four digit code for free fries so I didn't instantly take it on the chin I had a bit of integrity that I struggle with and even try to engaging them see at this point i was uploading movie reviews and regular comments terry videos correctly and my movie reviews performed consistently above average at that time in the last six months the fewest views i ever got on a movie review it was 362k views the highest was 1.5 million views the channel is doing better than now so i was here.
I told them that I was planning a great video that I knew would be amazing. I knew the video would be me. i watched four other haunting movies guess which one currently has 2 million views and i told them i'll put them in that video because they want to talk about numbers they're there constantly for movie reviews they didn't reply for 12 days after that and my idiot i sent them two more emails in that span of time as a thirsty thought. I thought I screwed up honestly for some reason this is when I was really unsure of myself talking to sponsors like oh no I hope I didn't ask for too much which is not the move and I was making a perfectly reasonable proposition it's definitely okay to fight for your question or at least something reasonable when you are able to defend it on top of that they reply and feed me shit it's still a bit high you see? we're expanding int or our international markets and we're launching two new products it's a lot of your plate i mean even though creators like you are the only reason we're relevant this is ah you know tell you what i don't like to joke i got my arm tongue twister, you know I can offer you 4,500.
In case you forgot the first offer was 4K, which was already incredibly low from my current rate, this is the next paragraph verbatim, assuming we can't hit our ROI target of 1.2 plus Roi. we can talk more about committing to multiple campaigns and higher rates we're sure this campaign will do very well i mean really really they didn't say that part that's me being funny but i need to provide value up front so i can sign on higher budget campaigns in the future if all sounds good send us your shipping address and the dj says can we hook you up smiley face oh god sorry i didn't realize my perfectly reasonable question was going to interrupt your international release i mean what The UK is going to do without baby wipes, but you know what I don't need to pay the bills for the Pubic Hair Removal Corporation.
I only want to be your friend. I could get along with the company and we could flourish in this beautiful mutually beneficial relationship, especially since I like the company, but money talks. I took the rate they gave me and put them in that video. my little footage was moving around like the carry bag and i didn't do that either but i wanted to impress him like a jerk and i did. They love the ad in the video, like I said. another campaign with me and they tell me they would quote honor without quoting this same fee for a second campaign as they did for the first.
I've come to hate the word honor honor the same fee as you in the first huh you mean it puby kind of expect me to say that's alm kind of like you're knighting me or something let's honor the same rate you you you mean you will still pay me very little you shouldn't have little teens I felt disrespected at this point but I kept my professionalism and I pleaded my case because I wanted to work with them under fair pay terms and at this point I was managing all my own deals so I'm still actively trying to get sponsors so they can keep paying me.
This is what I answered, that's great. to listen, although I was expecting a pretty big increase in pay rate, I think I was able to prove myself for the amount of work I put into directing and video. I integrated the manscape ad on sit set 808,000 views which is phenomenal for my channel and it was then still would be now. I don't get those numbers now, those views were in a month. By the way, I would like to continue promoting manscape ads, especially on videos with high viewing potential, but I can. t do it at the same pace I was willing to work with that's ok as a test to test myself but not for a follow up sadly let me know your thoughts and I hope we can work together again soon.
Unfortunately, with this economic crisis, we receive direct orders from executives to cancel deals. Kim Jong-un is snapping my neck as I write my last email. marketing expenses and they can only renew things example and 100 hit Roi during these times this is the most we can offer and what i got approved please let me know if you can work something out and bibbity Bippity Bop due to economic crisis refers to covid this was just in the moment it started to get real when we were asked to quarantine now this is the second excuse in a row to avoid getting paid fairly remember not just more but what i normally get paid which by the way was still technically low for which I might have been asking for at the time, but that's my silly fault, I was working alone, how the hell was I supposed to know now at that point?
I had heard from another third party that used to bring me sponsorships that covid was affecting the sponsorship market because no one knew what was going to happen looking back now it's a bit crazy honestly so I reply I understand I've heard some similar things. I really enjoy working with manscaped, I hope you can assure me. that we can take care of each other in the future once our current situation begins to improve. I am willing to work again at that rate for now. Kind gullible soul, can you do a second campaign this month? Sure, uh, at this point of documenting this, I needed an intermission, intermission, intermission, because I read ahead and got mad that there was that me. completely forgotten ad at this point i think i blocked it so it took me five or four more days so now i want to address at this point some of you might be thinking this sounds like your fault i mean you could have . i just said no if they were paying you less which they absolutely were 100 could have done that but now that i have gone down this path let's see what this company is all about so i put them in another video.
Video works fine. I send my invoice for the payment. and I didn't realize it when he first told me the amount to bill him, but it was less than the reason my first payment was thwarted, byleast when i worked with them they pay you via paypal and when a greedy company pays you via paypal. a three percent fee so the first payment manscape paid me the extra amount needed to balance the fees to pay me what they promised me in the second payment which didn't happen so my promised forty five hundred dollars became four one thousand three hundred and sixty five dollars and like I said these numbers are fake but the ratios are also correct if you're the type to say dude it's just a small fee you should pay thankful you're making that kind of mistake broke to my boy even if they gave me twenty thousand dollars worth of that when they didn't need that's my fifty bucks pay me what you said I know I'm not a psychic and I already read the comments but I can smell a jerk ready to throw it away are you grateful to receive this money?
It's okay if they take the no, it's not okay. Why am I losing money on this transaction? You are choosing to pay me through PayPal. You can directly deposit the money. I'll wait if someone took an hour from your biweekly check. Aren't you going to give a reason why you worked 80 hours in those two weeks? I wouldn't mind no I'd just be like oh ok it's just an hour I'm sure this multi billion dollar corporation needs it more than I do go ahead ok I'm already losing it in taxes anyway I might as well take plus it's as simple as paying me my money dog that's all like that after i sent the inv Oice and i realized oh wait i got less of this.
I asked, hey, Manscape isn't supposed to cover my PayPal fees because that's what they told me. No response 21 days later they finally reach out and this is where backers like to get really cheesy so take notes you little creators she still didn't answer my question about how we saw a lot of engagement on her last few campaigns and we would love to make you an offer to close a longer term project with you to help build your brand. a little easier bids and production schedules on your part, we'd like to offer you 666.66 per video, three videos, three months, what do you say? hmm now look we were at 4500 thats still a jump short of paying me for 44 but blessed line moved international release must have been pretty good.
What happened? Your nail clippers sold out in Kazakhstan. Oh, by the way, that's not the full email. The 6600 per video is for one YouTube integration and one IG story. rate and slipped into a different platform to advertise in Nice. The next sentence gets me every time you see sponsors would try to lock you into a multi-deal contract and then say something silly like this, this would result in a guaranteed income of twenty thousand dollars for the next quarter. that's a big number I like that number it's so big yeah manscaped if you pay me less three months in a row I'll end up with a number that's still only double what you should be paying me too they added and I hope they do a brand deal by scheduling a a little easier for the rest of the year I'm not even going to validate that with a joke maker PSA if a company tries to block you for several months and you're a growing channel unless you're desperate try weighing all your options and I'd say don't take that deal, your value as a Creator is subject to change when you're growing, so it's possible that after growing for three months in the last month of that contract, your integration rate is actually now wor los fifteen thousand dollars but your idiot is still doing an integration to manscaped at six thousand dollars because you let them lock you up it's Scottie Pippen syndrome one of the best players in The NBA in Luke Longley was charging more than him but also as I mentioned that Scotty was desperate to support his family with respect, but he got caught up in a bad deal.
Hey, editor, here showing up real quick. I also just want to add. I should have cleared this up. they're the
worsti've ever taken multi month deals I'm still open to multi month deals I'm just saying more like you're in a boom era and you know you are it's not crazy to have a company come up and try to lock you down for a few months but I would say for most YouTubers in three months your value will most likely not change rather than change having guaranteed income lined up having sponsors lined up when you are looking for sponsors is great but th There have been times where that companies have contacted me trying to block me for a year never take that deal but even some of the companies that have tried to block me for like three months when my channel is doing phenomenal was like we can get it down to two months we can feel it a month at a time like trying to trade i think i made it sound a bit too black and white my mistake so i'm still polite on this pu nto, because I want them to move to make sense, so she says okay, what rate is she looking for, then I have to get my boss's approval.
I thought about it and with the IG story added instead. out of my usual ten thousand dollar rate I'll ask for about 11,600 which is like a 16 raise on that ring they come back and say we were able to get approved for 9,300 which is still below my starting rate but they're paying me at least 80 percent of what I asked for instead of 66 of what I asked for so there I agree because I sure can use that money and then I ask again about the missing PayPal fee from my last payment without response nine days later hello and happy monday we are in touch to let you know that my old manager is no longer with manscaped I'm a magician face let me know if you need anything bye so we continue with that contract?
I have also been asking this woman about a PayPal fee. That manscape was supposed to cover any help she answers and I like she said this verb just annoys me yes we can still meet the last offer and regarding my payment for the fee that manscape was supposed to cover we used to be able to cover the fees when we had less than 100 influencers in our network now that we've grown a lot and got a new CFO. Our billing policies have changed. We have to use PayPal for tax legal reasons, but this is really huge. now let's dissect that answer before it hits my monitor they cover fees with fees with less than 100 influencers now there are more than 100 influencers and that's a lot of PayPal fees to cover Oh you mean that's a lot of legitimate payments to send I ordered in June Second, for that fee, you responded on July 2, a month later, and no one told me that your influencer network was booming and you couldn't cover it anymore.
It would have been a good warning. We have a new CFO. What if the guy is sick? Greedy state. He should be texting. We have to use PayPal for legal tax reduction reasons. Why you are the only company I have ever worked with and I have worked with probably over 30 companies at this point. You are the only one who said sorry. i have to use paypal my hands are tied our accounting team only uses the cash app and that last sentence is just a huge time saver collecting tax docs you mean 1099s manscaped you realize every other company without brain dead send me emails or physically mail me my 1099 they are not that hard to collect in fact yours is the trickiest because I need to go to PayPal and manually link multiple payments so what are you talking about?
I haven't read these emails in two years and I'm upset about making sure you get paid within 48 hours. I really don't give a damn, especially when that three percent PayPal fee has also increased with my pay increase. All my sponsors pay me net 30, net 45. Anyway, I'm used to always waiting for them to pay me, but of course at the time I didn't have this kind of energy for them. I learned a lot over time and nowadays I'm not one to put up with it when it comes to sponsors so I just asked him. Is there any chance you can send it to me via direct deposit?
Is there any other alternative? Your answer. I totally hear you on the fees. We hope the 107 increase in your rate is enough to cover the additional fees in exchange for faster payment and easy attacks to move the blue you have some balls in you ma'am you must be a big fan of the products you should have told me that suck on one because that's what you said we'll give you more money so as you know shut that trade up just by completely ignoring it the extra ad you're making me do on another platform but that's ok I send him one of my draft ad for you to review it's approved and she also adds that we are working on a sizzle reel right now for a new scissor 2.0 product for our youtube channel do you have any interest in sharing with us the rights to use the images and can we include it and give it a credit watermark? video and likenesses to further promote your company beyond our initial integration agreement my reward for selling my soul when you see me appear in a manscape dad you will see an opacity 50 on pain artist Mr Gigi with beat exposure type and it's even richer because it comes from a company and I'm sorry you said grow my channel with your audience your audience this is a manscape if you have such a thriving economy down there then you wouldn't need me could you reply?
I will do it but you have to pay me she replies i just spoke to our vice president i just spoke to our vice president i had to escalate that uh talk to the Top Dog hey this guy is asking for something a little crazy mr vice president what are you going to want to sit in this , I just spoke with our VP and we can secure a little over a thousand dollars in proportion let's say and unfortunately I don't know my worth in this regard, I've had enough trouble trying to pin down a number to figure out how much I should be charging for ads on So I didn't know what to tell them to grant full use of my Clips so they could include me in any advertisement they wanted.
I was still running my own deals at the time but the way it sounded low and its past history didn't help that feeling so I told them it sounded low to me and their response to that was interesting we don't usually pay for the usage rights, it's usually built into our contracts already, but it sounds like the previous rep didn't have that conversation with you. I realized that was our mistake, so this would be a special fee that we're willing to accommodate for our oversight just for you people who don't pay for usage rights, publisher, me again here, so this situation It's a little more complicated than I thought.
I've talked to my managers and they told me that it's actually common to have usage rights built into the contract, either for a limited amount of time or a defined amount of time, however if it's not in the contract or as with manscape, they didn't tell me explicitly because from my understanding I don't think they ever did. you signed a contract with them at least in the first few campaigns and yes, at that point, if you want usage rights and you haven't gotten them through contract and deed, then you wouldn't be playing the business game if you didn't ask for them. or money it would be weird if I gave it to you just because we're working together no give me money it sucks that at the time I didn't have the low tolerance for this kind of thing that I have now because nowadays even if it costs me money it just doesn't i put up with buds what do you need what do you pay me when you need to buy but unfortunately again i could have used that money so i took it i didn't feel good about it with no idea what i was really worth afterwards people were tagging me and posting ads on instagram like oh dude congratulations like you know she sends me another email and for some reason she keeps doubling down on this crazy idea that I'm going to get more subscribers out of this of me appearing three seconds in a manscaped ad on Instagram imagine me reading a comment that says hey buddy im here from manscaped youtube channel good stuff i saw you say pecan cream for two seconds and i was sold i was like i had to to see videos of this size that are nut cream i also just want to add that the additional usage rights they paid for is only bundled with the Paypal payment so it's more of a fee extracted by the way manscape doesn't have the intention of Does it bother you where is the watermark that you said you would do?
I know you ended up paying me for it, but you said you'd still put the watermark on it. Why doesn't anyone else have a watermark? You're never going to give me credit, you know? what maybe it's cut off on the instagram video that makes sense lemme see if you got it on you oh you got it on your youtube let's watch it here okay all four corners no description no give me credit next time, so fast forward. A couple of months to finish that contract for three videos. then i getan offer for a November upload integration that is made up of a YouTube integration and a Black Friday sale announcement on IG and Twitter stories.
Let's quickly review. My going rate is ten thousand dollars and a First as proof they paid me four dollars. I put them in a million views video and then they stopped covering PayPal fees. Then they paid me 200. They locked me up for three months at 9,300 for integration for three months after I had asked. eleven thousand six hundred dollars because they wanted to add Instagram ads at that fee they paid for my usage rights which I could only assume was too low a fee and now they added a twitter post in the contract and with that twitter post added it I would have doubled what I added for the Instagram ad and would have asked for at least thirteen thousand two hundred dollars for the three ads his offer in proportion to that perfectly normal asking sixty six hundred dollars for half my order and not to mention less than what I already got they were paying I realized some of you this might not sound like a thing but I was really foolishly thinking there was some kind of loyalty to these brands some weird form of camaraderie because I was a fan of their products and seems to enjoy the effort I put in those ads, but sadly I learned a valuable lesson that while it's awesome to have sponsors in Youtube, I've worked with so many great companies, so many prestigious companies that I would never have dreamed of working with, but at the end of the day, even though we're temporarily paired up in mutually beneficial relationships today, I still think it's us against them, they'll put you down. to the lowest offer if you let them and of course they will.
They are a business not your friend no matter how much you love the product or no matter how friendly the rep is money will always speak louder than you so on October 2nd 2020 I finally had enough of chasing This Promise that they will pay me more after doing so much and i declined their offer as too low and of course i still didn't get the balls to send me more offers after that though go yourselves guys until you get business if you like your products , though I still cringe every time I see a fall Now the Maker works with them and the only way I deal with it is they just helped me in the back of my head they took every penny they could as long as my boy would go crazy.
I've had bad sponsor stories but manscaped is the
worstit may not resonate with some of you and I totally get it but to me it's like a man it's like an ex girlfriend it's not all your friends I'm done talking of them, they do not deserve more. Shine and uh, if any competitor of yours is listening, my inbox is open. Got a second channel with content, check it out. Here are my lovely patrons. Thanks for always supporting the boy and as always I'm Mr GG and I'm out.
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