Joe Rogan Experience #2126 - Donnell Rawlings

Joe Rogan Podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan Podcast by night all day I wanna try to get dirty D don't do that man don't do that man don't start with those birds flying high You know how I feel, they tried to make you Drifting On, you know how I feel, it's a new, it's a new dawn, they tried to tag, it's a new life for me and I feel good, you look good, you look great, where? you get that suit, who made you that suit, the Latina from Brooklyn, they're some Korean tailors that I've been working with for the last two years and they're trying to make me go from Ashley to Clash and it's a new day.

I think it looks great and another thing you don't notice about this suit, Joe, I smell as good as this suit looks, what are you using to smell, what's the name of scent?, uh, uh, portrait of a lady, oh, it's an Arab company. um that's all I know and I have a guy that outsources my cologio and a little bit here a little bit here and a little bit on the wrists how you do it um you spray it and you walk through it that's what I spray I walk through of him and then I do that an annoying amount like, okay, we get it, we have a good colony right now, but it's good to be here.

There's something good about a good man in a suit, he makes you look, he makes you work on your teacher and one thing I did. Another thing is that I came here today and my intention, Joe, was to break all the stereotypes, so I got here 20 minutes before I was supposed to be here, you came 20 minutes late, you have to force the stereos and, um, he was wearing a suit no court date no funeral and no marriage procedure so this is it this is the whole thing about DaNell in a new day and changing his life I'm going through a transition what motivated this Law and Order not Law and Order didn't Law and Order didn't motivate this Law and Order in the first place Law and Order is one of the most respected franchises in history and has been around for a long time. everyone who is a part of it and says in New York says hey, you're you, you can't call yourself an actor in New York unless you've been on Law & Order, that's the meaning of it.

How many versions do you have that I've been in when I started my career? People really thought he was a dramatic actor rather than a comic. I was saving a lot of things. I've been to every single episode, not show episodes. and of them, I think 80% of them arrested me and I thought: wait a minute, are they calling me a guy every time I do a similar action? I am like this and what do I do, what do I do this time, everyone, each one. of them I was arrested for something how many of them are there how many Laws and Orders are there intention Special Victims Special Victims I'm going to say I'm GNA I guess I'm going to say five five different Laws and Orders the homicide was technically part of that too okay oh maybe not , this is related, it doesn't matter, wait, you have Law & Order Special Victims Unit Two organized crime three uh adapted series Law & Order Toronto Criminal intent law content five jury trial six The seven True Crime eight hate crimes oh, this is in development, hate crimes for the defense, they are G, have a whole program dedicated to hate crimes, but that brand is like and I don't think those guys, I mean Dick Wolf and Arthur for me when I did it for first time.

I did it years ago when I first did it. Arthur Fory was the director when I did it and that was like, I think, 2000 and then recently people love watching those shows where they catch the bad guy, yeah, you've got to catch him. bad boy and you have to have a bad boy, yes you have a bad boy and you have to catch him, but everyone is more interested in the bad boy than anything in life. General, yeah, that's why you find so many people who necessarily don't have a lot of talent, but they subscribe to the bad guy side and they want to be negative and then they're all attracted to the bad guy winning like the bad guy is winning. winning in what way yes in what way what Do you mean I'll just say I'll just say like this and I'm not being specific for anyone in general, even in the podcast world right now, the model for a lot of people now is like let's say something outlandish let's say something that's going to make someone angry let's say something that's going to make you hate make people hate you and now you have a platform and you have a successful platform because at the end of the day with this it's about commitment it's all about whether you can getting people involved and at the end of the day, if you can do it, whether people like you or not, whether you win or not, but I think people get tired of that, they get tired of conflict if your whole business is conflict. , people don't want to be in conflict all the time and realize that a lot of conflict is unnecessary and if you're the kind of person who likes to talk about conflict constantly and talk about it online, you're probably participating voluntarily as well. in it. a little too willingly like maybe you are understanding that you are creating problems creating problems in your own life even when you get attention like be careful what you wish for because if you are, if you are known just for talking about people and then you become successful, then People are going to talk about you, everyone is going to come after you, but the people who like that don't have the conscience to even care about it, yes, but everyone has a conscience.

I just think that we, the people. accept a certain amount of we accept it and I think you should focus on doing whatever you do well, you don't have to say outlandish things and be so negative, I just don't think it's necessary, you don't, but you are. living in a different world than black Twitter, it works, attention, not who, to the people you're talking to, yes, but black Twitter, I get it and in these urban places, yes, you could be negative for years and years and years and years and years. and years and they will come up and that's the truth, you're in a world of oh, he's a good guy, but in that Dark World, in that black world of Twitter, there's a lot of negativity and it's very unfortunate, that's unfortunate, that's something very unfortunate.

Don't enjoy it, I understand it like Twitter. Don't insult people, get angry with people at a certain point in your life. I realized there's no place for it in life, it's not necessary, you could avoid it for the most part if you could avoid it in your immediate life, you could probably avoid it in your internet life too. I think you avoid that conflict and that negative energy the more successful you become, because I think that creates an "I don't care" attitude, I think a lot. of the anger and a lot of frustration that comes with a lot of people, it's the beginning of the stage, it's the beginning stages, but when you think that we were talking about it, um, uh, um, before, damn, you gave me that joint too quickly .

You gave me that joint too fast we were talking, um, this is bad because I tried to take that pause to catch my thought. I don't know what you just gave me, but it just erased everything that was. Thinking about what you were talking about, as you become successful it becomes easier to avoid conflict, which I probably agree with, and you also feel comfortable enough to be able to recognize the patterns that are beneficial and not beneficial to you in your life and conflict is never beneficial for me. like even the conflict that I've been involved in, so that's been your everything, that's been your everything, not even like And, young Joe Rogan, well, you didn't have the in, you like this or that, mother, I don't care, you've always been like that.

Calm down, you've always been this cool and collected throughout your entire career, no, definitely not, so that's to my point, yeah, but I learned to do it because I realized you know what happened once, man, this It is a true story. I was seeing this friend. on stage and I hoped he was failing, I expected him to fail because he went after me. I wanted him to do well and I realized what an idiotic way of thinking it is to want someone to not do well. I was 21 and I'll never forget it, but that's the age, Joe, that's the age when you like it, that's right, goodbye night, at that age everyone is so ambitious and competitive that he was getting into comedy at the time.

Like it wasn't very there, there wasn't a lot of camaraderie between the open mics because everyone was super desperate like when you remember the desperate days when you weren't sure if you were ever going to be a professional like they are. desperate days, I've never, I've never felt like this, I've never, I'm telling you, it's not being ar

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t or whatever you want to say, I've never felt like that, like the back to open mics, the first open mic I ever did. a position at Ovation that is crazy. I have an Ovation position. I think it wasn't an Ovation position because they had the best material. um, it was the funniest, but before that I used to go to comedy clubs and with comedians.

And probably Shar. This used to bother comedians and people started coming to the show to see me. Interrupt, so that was one thing I am. This is not. That's why when people say I'm a switch, I've been the switch. I have been inter. interjecting before I even got on stage, that's funny, the age I was, I had to be 21 or 22, perfect, and the thing was, BU started, people started getting excited for me, they knew I was a boy in the audience. That was funny, but it was like some people in the clubs would hang out with you, they were like man he should do it, you know what I mean, or like someday I should try it, so I ruined all the other comedians' careers. or whatever, I would do it.

They used to destroy it, they used to come at me and like, um, couldn't you handle me? I'm working on some new material. I think it's my job to interrupt you, it's your job to try to be funny, you were a professional interrupter. I was a professional troublemaker who is so crazy that the teacher and I drew. It was attracting the audience. This is how it happened. It just happened and then finally the club wanted me to shut up. They said, "We will shut his mouth." He'd be screwed if he came on stage and then people in the audience really started coming to see me speak and I think the night of the first night I went on stage, I think it was the build-up like something that people felt like this guy was gone. , they felt like I was working for sway as a security guard at a grocery store and the first time I got on stage all the people that used to come home from work all looked at me like I was about to quit or get fired, you know, It was something that I coincidentally never thought about doing in comedy.

I used to go there because I got free promotional tickets. I was never the boy when I was younger, I was 13, when I looked in the mirror for the first time. I knew what I wanted to do was comedy. It was never like this. which is exactly what happened being in that situation I went up I broke it and when I broke it the first time I went on stage I knew I was like this is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life and I didn't do it Say and with that thought Joe I didn't feel that I was going to be rich I'm going to be famous I'm going to have a television show for the first time I went on stage The only thing I want what you have to do is be good, that's almost getting to this point in my career.

Now I think if you are good and this applies to anything in life, if you are good at something and really good at it, you are passionate about it, you study it and just live by it you will eventually reap the rewards of it. I was never like I was going to have a TV show. It was like man, if I'm good, I'm GNA. I will be able to work in this club if I am good. If I want, I'll be able to work in this club and then things will start happening for me, so I think when I started, my friends and family were really encouraging me to do it and the moment I walked on stage I thought: This is what What will I do for the rest of my life?

Wow, and thinking about that will never make me rich or anything. Do you ever feel guilty about starting out as a Heckler now that you're a comedian? No, no, me, joe. I gotta be honest, man, Joe, I gotta be honest, I like to interrupt Joe, I'm a born Heckler. I like that in DC we call it joning, right, Jon joning, that's why he did it, why his name was Jon, I don't know why he called him joning but it was just roasting it was the black way of saying if it is if you want to compare it was like roasting what an interesting word Jonan, like why did they come up with that, I think it was like a person who was very good at it, I don't know if it was a guy named Joan, I don't know, that doesn't make sense, I don't know much about the history of the blacks, I'm not going to know the history of You might want to uh Google uh have you ever heard that Jamie Jonah's Urban Dictionary?

Do you ever use it as a resource? Yes, go irin Dix Erin dixer has saved many of us, many white people at cookouts and barbecues, yes, but Us and I are just like before. I loved to interrupt. I didn't know they could interrupt each other in comedy. There is an unwritten rule. They said you can't. The rule is that you can't, uh, joning, humiliate and mock you. from someone yes, stop making fun of me, you'll get hit I wonder who Joan was she was a lady Joan no I don't think you think that's it I know this fool ain't making fun uh whoa let me get that part straight Joe let me get the rest let me get the second half you get the first half I get the second Does that make sense?

Could that be someone joking like there's probably someone named Joan who's really good at insulting people?people? no, I get that line where I'm coming from, that's what the joke was, that's what it was, Urban Dictionary got it right, that's what it was, but it wasn't like the script, it wasn't like you had writers or something like that, it was just you at the time you look that person up and down and you just go for it and I used to, oh man, I used to join in and then the rule was in comedy you can't, you're not supposed to scream in comedy you're not supposed to join in or say anything else comment i hate this rule yeah people don't like to be interrupted D I know but no no Everybody likes to have it their way but Joe, Have you ever felt it and have discipline?

You've been watching and you just like I just want to say something you never felt I just want I don't want to wait until you get off stage I just want to say something right then, especially if you've had a drink, yeah, yeah, I've been drinking like that, it's a nonsense, you would just want to scream, yeah, and it won't be like that. like something nasty, you just like it, you just can't help it anymore, you feel like you have to say something, it's really funny a few years ago, Tracy Morgan and I were in a show and Tracy Morgan and I started the comedy around the same time and he As a man, I'm sick of these idiots, he said, I just want to say something, I said, but you know you can't interrupt comedians, he said we should go on a tour, go to all the comedy clubs in the country, not to perform alone.

Hello, from the seats, I thought it was a brilliant idea, so you would talk about something that builds character. Could you? It's almost like a roast battle. Can you imagine putting mediocre comedians on stage and having great comedians in the audience? Interrupt them, yes. You know that would be scary, that would be scary, but guess what, I guarantee you, Joe, if you had 20 mediocre comedians, one or two would stand out as the ones that would break up, yeah, and if you did something like that, that's what I'd be looking for someone is going to say it is going to be a shark tank yes, of course, so you will recognize very soon what about your material is soft and if it is but what about your materials if you have to do it in front of people you respect it will make you take a step forward or It will make you have enough attitude and personality to make any joke because you know what half of what you deliver for the most part is. stage presence, yeah, it's stage presence, you can't, you don't know, it's how you respond, how do you react to an audience coming at you, man?

David T was on the mothership this weekend and I saw him Sunday night, man I don't know. I don't know if there has ever been a funnier person. You know how funny it is every time I see his face for the first time. If you see Dave David Tail's face now, you saw it 30 years ago, yeah, he's like the white Morgan Freeman from Comedy, like he's always been what he looks like in a different color black hoodie, yeah, and he's so funny you mention his name because something came up in my thread like a day ago and Dave says he's like the kind of guy who doesn't even listen to what he said you look like. to him you say, I said I need to write more jokes, you're like someone, his mere presence lets you know that you have to write more jokes because in the entire year and I've seen David for 30 years, I can't remember a time when hasn't been on stage with Mind said I'm working on something new always always always always and you wonder how he can keep going, that's what he does doing this, he's really focused on that one thing that I know he used to be an alcoholic and when he stopped drinking got a lot better when he stopped drinking, man you know something happened to him.

Some comics, something happens, they are like drunks when they are young and later. They stopped drinking and they're not as good anymore because they're not as fun because when they were drunk they were wild. I figured out a way to balance both what you define as drunk and older drunk, which I was going to do. What I'm saying is that it's the best example because what he did was he stopped drinking and then he immediately got a lot better and continues to get better, like now all that focus was just on getting back on his feet.

I understand. I think about that sometimes, man, it was so good. It was amazing. He was on fire. He has a tape recorder. He plays like a little flute. I saw that's the clip that came up and I just thought about the only part I remember. He said you have this instrument, he said you have your head. to shabed in the stain he said it was reference uh that that uh the flute or whatever it was, of course it could, it was a penis, but I thought it was just him, he's nice, he's got like a formula in it. his mind is how to make fun of everything and he's so in tune right now that he can just plug it into any topic and he just starts writing material and he's always working on it, but he's not a fun guy to spend time with. a while. with him it's fun to hang out with what i like i get nervous i feel like he's about to be on law and order something when i hang out with dave dave will be talking to you and all of a sudden he just disappeared but maybe it's just me but yeah, he's not, he's not the party type, it was fun hanging out at Mothership, it was because we have The Green Room, it's like a nice relaxing place where everyone can hang out together, but he's a weird guy who carries around . a flip phone that texts you like the one where you press four RS to get it right oh it's still on the old school test yeah you have to press it five times to get a butt or whatever remember those , I remember them and he does. that's how he texts you, he does it with a flip phone, but that keeps him out of Diddy's yacht, yeah, no, not being connected, not being connected, with too much communication it keeps you out of those back rooms and keeps you away. those yachts, that's you, you don't invite a person to the back room or a yacht if they have that phone, yeah, there's something very fishy about that, you don't get invited to those partial parties that gets you more movie deals, that's how they used to do Hollywood, old Hollywood, old Hollywood, that's exactly how they did everything you know.

Tarantino was telling us that one of the former producers had a bedroom in his office, so he had his office and you go to his office and he had a bedroom and the bedroom is where all the stars went, so he was the producer and If you're going to be in his movie, he's going to go to you, that's an old school dorm, you know how? in his office, you know how many women sitting there listening to us say, bring back the good old days, you know, I mean, I know, you, I know you have some women like this, I don't believe it, but you still have. a couple of women like me I don't want to go to acting school I don't want to study I don't want to do anything I want to blow up well it seems like there was a real CLE look no disrespect actors, but there are a lot of them and there are a lot of them that probably They will never make it, if they had the right opportunities they could have been as big as some movie stars that exist today, wouldn't we agree on that?

I agree with that with Acton Anna with stand up, yes, but it is specifically for acting because there are many people who can dedicate themselves to acting, like many athletes who have dedicated themselves to acting and have done incredible jobs, but not many of They are. Well, but I don't see K Abdul Jabar, okay, who was in that Adam Sandler movie with basketball player Rick Fox? I know Rick Fox was taking it very, very seriously, Kevin Garnett, that's right, he's in that uncut gem movie and he's great, he's not an actor. What wouldn't work any other way, you couldn't get a guy to do stand-up and be great and who's never done stand-up, but you can get a basketball player actor, you get and you could become a Ranchero turned into actor, sure, just teach him how to do it, some guys can do it, what role did he play?

He played a basketball player. Come on, he played a guy who was ripping off Adam Sandler. guy ripping off Adam Sandler, nevermind Joe, I understand I thought you were going to say he played a rocket scientist. I'm just saying, so you're telling me Joe's list when he was passing when he was giving lines to Adam. Sandler is very realistic he is a basketball player who is not just a basketball player he is a basketball player who is scamming Adam Sandler steals a rock he doesn't want to return a rock there is no way Kevin Garnett would have ruined this role even Joe listen to me are you hating?

I'm not hating what I'm trying to explain I feel like he's hating no I'm not don't start it black man Twitter is coming for me I'm not saying there was no way I could have been bad playing a basketball player he was good Dude, I mean, it's good, it's okay, let me see, it's okay, let me see, I'm seeing this, yeah, we can't see it, I know, just look, get in trouble. right, you can't see it, but I just want to see him standing, listen because there I can see the dramatic side that you're saying, but when he stands up, he's playing a basketball play, but I'm telling you no. about that it's about gambling addicts it's all about gambling addicts the whole movie is about gambling addicts it's an amazing movie right I mean I'm not even watching the dialogue I mean listening to it or anything I can see as if his face looked invisible but I still see a basketball player Kevin Garnett, basketball player.

It's just hard, yeah, I know what you're saying, but he's and he's a Celtic and he's a basketball hoop, yeah, Joe, he played a basketball player, he played himself in this movie, he's doing this thing where he's involved in gambling addiction, they, they, they're all just making crazy bets, man the movie will give you anxiety. I'll check it like it's real anxiety, like oh, no, don't do it, don't do it. so he was and Kevin Garnett is a good guy. I wasn't trying to do it with him, but I know you are. What I'm saying is because the minute you start Joe you say why do you hate the next thing you know the next thing you know I'm being attacked by every urban block in the country Joe Rogan hated Kevin Garnett said he shouldn't act, that I should just play basketball, those certainly weren't my words, I know They're not your words, but it was the passion of my words, yes, even and that's how it starts.

Even that's not what you really meant, but what I'm saying is that I think of all things, acting is probably even though some people do it. ingenious in that, don't get me wrong, the most feasible for a person like that, it's the most, I mean, the more likely you can figure out how to do it, you may never be able to figure out how to sing to yourself. I know you may never be able to figure out how to stand up, but you can probably figure out how to act. Yes, that's what you're technically just pretending to do and then you could train yourself, but I still think it's something inside you. of you as an actor that takes you above the equally qualified person, yes, there is something that drives you to want to do something different and make different decisions as an actor, yes, it is called being mentally ill, yes, and you are Absol, I am Agree with you. 100% most actors have some kind of mental disorder, think about it, it's like you're playing Make Belie all the time professionally and then if you become really famous for playing Make Belie at a certain point, you're probably Like who am I, who am I really oh, who do I want to be?

Yeah, I mean, but you think you're this person because you're getting all this adoration from all these people watching you play different people in movies. Like they don't even know you well and then you like what's so weird about this world that I've created where everyone loves me and likes me pretending to be different people like who I am, but at the same time You could give whoever you want to be that day I think I think when we wake up in the morning we go, we go into active mode, you go to bed, you wake up for something and you wake up in the morning like you know what that is.

I'm going to have a great day. You're acting like you're not dealing with what you did the day before. I think that's part of our life. You and I know this is a crazy question. You've heard it before and it's like. A generic question when you have a comedian who has performed is whether he is more challenging for you to perform or more challenging as a stand-up developing new material, well it depends on what you would do to perform like I've never done. a real dramatic movie or a dramatic role on a TV show, everything I've ever done has been silly, so, um, that's a different type of acting, like comedic acting, you know, it's basically like a conversation. written, you know, yes, but at some point with even with acting there is a moment where this is the scariest part for me.

I can go in front of 25,000 people and thank you, you created platforms where I can do it in front of so many people. I can go in front of 25,000 people and it feels and I can hear and it feels incredible, yes, but it's the silence of when you know that there are like 150 people behind the camera who trust what you're doing right now and that silence is silent when everyone is completely focused on that person who was given that line and then the action. It's terrifying, I tell you.I could have done shows with you and Dave where you guys created platforms to go out into an arena like you're about to take on the world, but the minute you say hush, and you like action, action, yeah, and then you have to do that and you have to really rehearse that thing, really know what you're saying, why you're saying it, because you have to repeat these words in that order, you're not freestyling. you said uh before all the actors St.

You've been a chly thing I think maybe the first four or five parts of the fourth part the first four or five years of my career everything I hired was dramatic nobody thought I was a comedian or yeah you mean a comedian um acting on Chappelle's show, I did like all the Laws and Orders I did on HBO, the corner where I played a heroin addict. I think this was like the third audition I went to. The third audition I attended. David Simon and Alex Foley. she's very important Fogle or FY it's been a long time since I was in New York so she could be saying her last name but she put all that out there uh Sopranos um all that stuff.

I went to an interview. I was. at the audition for The W just sorry this was Jackie Brown Carmen Alex was there when we did it um when we came back we did the corner but I mean the cable but for the corner it was Jackie Brown Carmen I went for this audition the audition I was like addicted to the heroine, right, Charles Dutton directed this series, won three um three uh um emys. I played the character, pan, that's my friend Clark Peters, he's an amazing theater actor, he came from a theater background, so what I'm doing.

I'm auditioning, Joe, this and I'm, I'm green like at the audition and I'm like, man, I'm up, man, I'm not going to understand this, Jackie Brown, Carmen said Donell, relax, calm down, God is. In the room you will be fine and I will be with God, but I didn't know if God goes to the auditions with you or not, how much it would help, right, and I did my lines again and I still thought I had failed. It was like a man. I understand his support or whatever. I'm like this. I start saying anything right four days later.

I swear at some point you audition and feel like you'll at least get a call back. I understand that they call them. you booked it I was like I was like I couldn't believe I was like I don't know how that happened I was like I know I wasn't ready I was just saying whatever and I wanted to get out of here and run back to the stage acting I want to work on my jokes so we can start David Simon he was the original writer of the book The Corner um with another police officer he was the one who did police journalism in Baltimore so I saw him on set and I had a question.

He said, man, thanks for being a part of this. He had a question. He just had to know. I said how I got this role. I'm already booked I told him, I swear, I thought I failed that audition and he said, Daniel, we like the way you threw out the lines, so if you mean not being prepared, he said we liked the fact that you threw out the lines and said something else. you didn't feed into the stereotype of the guy's addiction because everyone going in there was just going straight to the lowest point of the addiction.

The worst part was being high and auditioning, they didn't want to see what they wanted. look who is this person who is not on drugs and because I was wrong because I said it, I'm going to say it my way, that's what kept me going, well that's probably the hardest thing to do is just say a free. ball and be in, you know, just say, I don't even remember the lines, but this is what I would say, if you do it, but if you put some platforms, they will allow it, then you will become rigorous like when you start.

Speaking of HBO, those guys kind of want you to say every word that was on that paper, yeah, but they also want someone who actually sounds like they could say those words. Okay, there are things that a person has like a type of charisma that a person has like a person like you who has that or doesn't have it and if you have it and you can deliver it in some way, you could get training right, someone can figure out how , well, I'll help you memorize the lines we'll go over them together we'll go over things but in the end you have, you're you, you have to be you, but not everyone can even pretend to be you, not everyone can, yeah, you know. what I'm saying and everyone doesn't have the heart to take those risks because I've never been trained, but what always resonated when talking about acting is how to make a right decision and let them bring you back, yeah, you know what I mean , it's better to do everything you can than not do it and no, um, when I was doing HBO for cable, there's a scene where I get pulled over in the car in the car and I got like $30,000 from people who don't know if it's political drug money or whatever and they arrest me for it and then in the next scene they somehow have to let me go with the money, basically I walked in with 30,000 dollars and I leave with $30,000 and I just said I'm going to do some improv so they were like action and when I left the room I was in I threw the money behind my show and said some people came.

Some people don't really let the money change and then I look at the cops and I said oh Mighty Dollar they all laugh but they said no we're not going to use that to lower it but it's like do like at least they knew I would take advantage opportunity you free some people, yes, yes, you will be loose and that's what it's like some people just can't be loose, they just can't understand that to be free. always in his own way, but I think for me, even with acting, that has made it fun, the times I understand it is that I have had enough, I have had enough success in comedy and I have created a pretty good lifestyle through it. from that.

I don't have that pressure of having to book a role, you know what I mean? Like a lot of actors now, it's like they have to get this show, you know what I mean, just to continue the lifestyle that they have, so it's always for me acting has always been like oh, I'm just playing, It's fun, I mean, you know, get it, that's the best way to do it, especially if you know if your stand-up is going well, as anything can be. Well, you don't really care if you're making a movie here or there, but if you were just making movies like those people during the pandemic, that just came back to acting because there were some comic mics, I was very happy about that.

It ended because I got tired of these writers we'd never heard of doing ads. They were like that. This guy wrote for Family Guy. We like where you've been, you haven't been in the trenches, no, there are people who realize they have mortgages. If that is. What happens and then they realize oh my God I'm so connected to the TV system that if it goes down due to the pandemic or another pandemic I won't work for a year and a half like what are you talking about I think That made people have to find out which one it was. its pivot, yeah, yeah, well, you can't put too much trust in a system that doesn't care about you and, uh, a system that if you're paying attention to where it's going. a huge amount is about to be absorbed by AI as a giant part of entertainment, yes, yes, I mean a giant part.

Tyler Per was a story maybe like three weeks ago and I think he was in the middle of producing a movie. or doing something and he was building an 800 million doll studio and he stopped construction as soon as he saw what's called sora Sora Sora create can create entire scenes entire scenes entire scenes that look realistic, have you seen it? I haven't seen it, check out this video that came out yesterday. I think this is like a guy with a balloon head. It's like a short film. All of these scenes were supposedly done by Sora. So this is all AI.

Jesus, yes, it's over. They say that everyone has something unique. them, I don't know about the audio afterwards, it's just in my case, you know, it's pretty obvious what that thing is. I'm literally full of hot air, yes, living like this has its challenges, uh, windy days for one are particularly problematic or there was the Once my girlfriend insisted that I go to the cactus store to buy my uncle a wedding gift Jerry. This is crazy. What do I like most about my situation? Yes, it's pretty well done. It was, I don't know if it was and someone just put it up. the information that is being created, yes, the new world entertainment, Joe, this is my prediction, this is a huge leap, a huge leap above everything else.

Now add that too, add this, this is what will happen eventually and this is not the right thing to do. What especially needs to be said about Hollywood, the idea of ​​agencies, the idea of ​​all those jobs are about to disappear and all you're going to have are content creators and content creators are going to cut out the agency middleman. and they leave. to go directly to the advertisers and the people who pay the money you have to be connected to a certain entity or agency and they will probably kill me after this Joe this makes me Illuminati right now they are going to kill me Joe Cat Williams and they are all coming for my neck, I'm telling you it's going to get to where all those things that you needed to do it will no longer exist and we're, we're, we're, we're close to that, right?

Well, we already lost sitcoms, so sitcoms were number one, it was like the number one job for a comedian, you get your own show, yeah, that was the only job you wanted, that was the job you wanted. everyone wanted and then they had comedy movies. Well, comedy movies have been drastically reduced, so comedies disappeared and then comedy movies were drastically reduced, but what did most people want that for Joe? What if comedians wanted that for two things: money and fame? Yes, because there were no social networks. and there was no YouTube so ticket sales really depended on you being on a TV show 100% yeah it was a big factor and that's why you probably heard this and it's a conversation when it comes to it especially when it's about Comedy, you have YouTube comedians, you have social media comedians, like comedy has now been divided into so many definitions of what comedy is.

When we started there was only one definition the moment you heard someone say comedian it was nothing more than a guy who grabs a microphone stands flat footed and entertains the audience it wasn't a comedian on boats it wasn't that when you say comedian you're just associated on the ships, you know, I mean, no disrespect to the cruise guys, Cru guys, what are you talking about? They find their lane and they love it, but that's a hard life, man, you, that's a hard life, that's a hard life, you got stuck in that boat telling them some jokes, but then some people's jaws dropped, some people like that , look, look at the um level of competition look at this they like this you know what? and those guys are six figures, yeah, six figures, oh yeah, yeah, most guys that do it do it, no, I think it gets to a point.

I've talked to guys who didn't like doing it, yeah, but they like it, it's very depressing for some reason your first year, probably not especially if you do $30 places in Brooklyn here, like when I, that came up when I started When I started, it's like, oh, on cruise ships, that means, oh yeah, it was because we didn't really have much to look up to other than making money from it, you know, so it was a normal job. in stand-up comedy, but the point I was making even with that is the different definition of a comedian and they always break down like all the old people have a way of thinking, yeah, this and that, what you have to give credit to is the work ethic. you have to get to a certain level, like if you want to say a social media comedian or it's a certain level, it's a certain work ethic that you have to have to be consistent with that, but the problem is what some people who have problems with that it's like yeah but some of them aren't that good you know how hard it is to be good at something when you're already a millionaire doing it at any level mhm you know what drove us when we were coming up was that if I'm good I can get the money properly, but now it's like they have the money, so what's the urgency unless you get one or two who really care about the craft?

Who cares about being good at that? When is the final result? is that they are paying me, well, you always want to be good at what you do, right?, some people, but the level of being good now is different, like today, people become good at knowing algorithms, there are many things you already know. What I'm saying is that they really know what the system is, which is amazing if you put the talent on top of that, you know it should be yes, if you're a smart person and you know how to really use it. the system I mean manipulate but that's the wrong word it's actually used utiliz because you're like Mr Beast that's a perfect example right that guy figured out how to make the right captions and how to make the right image that you click on . for YouTube videos, the right title and then you figured out how to keep investing money in your product and you figured out exactly where the algorithms and thetranslated into different languages ​​and that's final, that's what I'm saying is that's the skill set that's going to eliminate a lot of jobs, that guy is a unicorn, but this is what I feel, if you have an artificial intelligence like the next one GPT chat generation, you might be able to come up with. a very effective business plan that you really likeIt made sense that the AI ​​would guide you step by step, as if this is what you are going to do to achieve success.

It'll probably even break it down if you write for 20 minutes every day, which will increase your material time by 50 minutes over the course of the next 10 months and if you want to do all the calculations as if that were real and if you really thought about it that way way, like through artificial intelligence, you would let it guide your career, it would probably do an incredible job. like putting yourself in the perfect position to, I mean, if it's artificial, we're going to audition against some guy with artificial intelligence that you like, you send in your tape and then they have an audition like this, hey, I need, I need Joe to be a cop .

The officer arrests these guys for robbing Don, we have to realize that we are so close to them, since they are fake people, we are so close. I hope I'm dead before they show up, not because I already deal with fake normal people. we have artificially created fake people oh Hollywood is dead they are in trouble oh Hollywood is dead no no no no really although Hollywood was dead just look at that movie you buried it you helped bury it I didn't do I did what I did I just abandoned ship you helped bury it you helped , you showed something that you could do that they probably didn't think you could go somewhere, publish, do your thing and create a whole comedy community in Austin, yeah, I didn't think I could do it. or you knew you could do it I didn't know you knew you could do it I didn't know I could do it I just did it that's why I'll tell you and you're like you're doing it a lot of people do it, but I made your club the mother function and it's like anyone, not just anyone, if you had enough money you could build a good club, right, it's a good club, state of the art, but that doesn't make it a comedy community, you know what I'm saying?

Those will be the challenges of all these people opening comedy clubs and stuff, mhm, Dave has opened one. I think Mike EPS, a lot of them like to show up and me. I think that's great, but the thing is there's a difference between having a comedy community, you know, yeah, you have to do it on purpose, yeah, you know, and that's one of the things we did when we opened the club. as a whole like These are the nights where you're going to have open mic, you know, we're going to have comedians audition to be door people so they can see guys like David T, who was just there this weekend and who you'll have a very clear path, there will be an open mic night, the Talent Coordinator will be there and can watch you, maybe they can even give you some advice, other comics can see you, they see you working.

At the door you can see all this great comedy, you can be close to all this great comedy and then there are a lot of places to go in the city and we let you go out, let people go out, like the comic had a stage on the street where they could do it. go out, go, run down the street, do a set, come back, that's how it's supposed to be, you do it seven days a week, right, yeah, we're on seven days a week, that's how I measure every time I go and you never see anywhere two nights.

On Open Mic nights I also always measure a club, I don't measure it, but you would know how successful a club is if it could run seven nights a week, well, it's, you know, it was perfect timing, it's just a strange coincidence of all these things. It happened to open to all these doors at exactly the same time, it's like going down the street and you turn on every light green like magic and it just works, you know it's a system in New York if you're on those streets on Second Avenue on any of those streets.

If you drive at 30 28 miles per hour you will catch all the lights from 20 33 to 115 that's a fact. I know you didn't know this, but I've tried it. I heard that yes, if you know, I think it's I think it's 28 miles per hour, it's a straight shot, a couple of cats, dogs will get run over in that process, but as long as you can maintain that consistency of 28 m per hour, no. will you be able to stop H, that was a The fact that I know you didn't know I had heard that before, I had heard it from taxi drivers, is there anything you haven't heard right now?

I always think that, but then Jonan shows up and he stumps me. it's 16 it's 16 the last time I was here you didn't know what a sexy 16 was that's right, I didn't know, but you asked me, you asked me about this outfit, it looks cute and as I look at myself in the camera I wonder if I overdid it , no, no, no, you look great. I hope not. He would have also worn a suit. I like to wear a suit. I know, I remember when we, yeah, we did those Arenas, we did shows in the Arena and and your whole energy changed when you had a suit like I did in my SP.

I said stop my feet, you started stomping and you said you knew you could do it yourself, but it's a classic thing about being able to stand. There's something up in the suit and that's how I felt even when I did New Day for the first time, this was the third time filming this special. I told them the story, yeah, and I remember every one, and I and I got really stressed because every time I saw you, would you like, when does the special come out? When is? I don't know, I filmed the I don't know the first time I did the special during the pandemic at the end of the pandemic when uh the clubs still had this whole uh Co protocol and they had masks on, yeah, mask on, then vaccination cards, did you? have you been tested and what vaccine did you get Johnson and Johnson and everything we tried in North Carolina and our back was already against it because the The place I chose had a capacity of 600 people, I think it was a full theater for 6700 people and we had a sale of 700 people, but then when Netflix liked where's your card, where's this, it went down the first year, it went down to 250 people. oh they had vaccine cards to get into all of that which means now at the back of the show you have to put up a black curtain oh no now you like to look at like half the audience oh they put on a mask and oh no Did the first program go well?

The first show went well and then Dave said, “Because he produced it.” Dave said, "You know, if we don't get it, we can film it again." I don't think there's time to film this. we're getting it this time for the second time I CAU Stan and O Stan are going crazy Ricky Hughes going crazy we like it oh we got it we got it and we announced that my special was coming out at the same time we announced it. The earthquake special was going to come out a week after that announcement. Dave calls me and says Danielle, I want to film your special.

I tell him, you know, that's the most insulting thing you say to a comedian you want to film first. You think it wasn't funny, right, that's the first thing he said: I can put you in front of any audience, you were wrong before, he said, but it doesn't make it a big special, he said outside of everyone and the umbrella of the home team. that people are really anticipating because the connection to that show is you, if we're going to do it, we have to do it right, it was difficult because I think, oh, this is going to be the place that gives me a platform for people. to see me stand up, but we basically scrapped his, D said, you had too many Co jokes in there and think about it, but if I had filmed a special with a mask on, yeah, it automatically dates you in 2020, yeah, as soon as you Turn around.

Like oh this was during the pandemic, how wild the pandemic was, I missed it, I was thinking about the other day, I miss it, man, I miss not having to be around a lot I missed how people appreciated the simple things, I miss how when you had a bubble, you could block out all this negative, all the haters, you weren't allowed in the bubble because you give me six feet, give me six feet the bubble and invite whoever you wanted. I missed I missed how people appreciate life. I think we should. do like a lockdown week, a global lockdown week once a year where everyone just shuts down the system.

Yeah, that would be great, except you can't tell people to shut things down because then you're giving the government the power to shut things down whenever they want for a week and then they might decide that two weeks is better, maybe a month as if you can't, you can't give them the power to shut things down if people decide not to do anything right, we should vote like that. We could vote like a lockdown like National Lockdown Day. You don't want to take away people's freedom. I don't want to take away your freedom. People want to do it.

They should be able to do it if everyone agrees. do it on your own f n that that Joe Joe what happened when we started making people do something guess what happened when you force someone to do something when you force someone to wash their hands when you force someone you get six feet when you force them to doing something forces some kind of change, I'm not saying forever, but I think we should have a joint where we just block everything for like a week, everything is dead, that was fun, so people died, not that many.

It is compared to people who are alive and not yet sick. It's a disease that killed people for sure, but it's a disease that killed people no matter what the percentage was. It's like a large percentage of them have four comorbidities, oh yeah, a large percentage of the people who died from Co, four four different things that are killing you, just say rabbit up there, it's like that gets to a human already. engaged, which isn't to say you shouldn't try to help engage humans, but I'm saying it's not what they were selling it or what people were terrified it was going to be yeah, but I know it was, I'm saying that seriously to me, but it was so strange what he did for us, man, when do you remember those days at Stubs?

I went to Stubs the other day to see The Black. Keys and that brought me back to those days in the stubs, we did those shows there, it was like there was a crazy feeling doing something when no one else was doing anything, it was that I got high from this, it was exciting, we were still doing comedy comedy was shut down everywhere we were still doing comedy we were still eating with groups of people that's what I'm saying we appreciated so I even liked it but a lot of people thought we were reckless but you know, every part of this was protocol Yeah, it was like Hey, every part of this was protocol, you weren't going to be around anyone who hadn't been vetted, right point, and that was something about it, even when we saw each other, it was like, oh, we.

By doing it we got excited about doing it regularly, yes even when our entire team caught Co at the same time it was like a chickenpox party we got down from a team of 24 and every day was when I knew it was coming putting it wrong because I used to. we planned lunches for everyone and uh and we had lunch at 12:00 every day and they said, I wonder what we're having for lunch, it's going to be 24 people and then once they opened it, one day it was 22. it was 20 it was 19 se reduced it from 12 to four people, you had to F for yourself, the whole team got infected and this is before the vaccine, this is before that, it was okay, it was right when the vaccines were about to explode because I had someone I know this sounds so ghetto.

I had someone who could take me to Johnson and Johnson at the bottom, at the bottom, yes, people were excited to understand it all from the beginning, yes, I understood it, I understood it quickly too. I almost understand it, yes, yes. I was lucky, look, now you're lucky. I dodged it now. Now I wonder since I got it. I'm waiting for something to happen in my body that might contribute to that, but a lot of people, Ken, did something to it. a lot of people you know it has a very high rate of side effects why are you with me now man it does which one I think all of them and I think I don't think any of them are good for you I didn't do it so what is it?

I think if you were an older person and it was your first time Co, it would probably help you, but I think there's a lot of problems with that, which has been okay, there's a lot of side effects, I mean, there's the craziest thing that's going on. right now it's the increase in mortality from all causes, that's the crazy thing because of the vaccine, yeah, there's excess deaths, there's excess deaths, um, like an increase in numbers, that's nice, if you were a statistician, uh, statistician If you're a person who does statistics and you're looking at signs that something went wrong, would you say, well, was there something that caused these people's bodies to change?

Where are we getting this large number of excess deaths? 40% 40% excess deaths and what kind of that I think it just means 40% more people died than normal basically that's what it means right Jamie black, EX blacks are black for everyone, everyone and a lot That's what cardiac things are. The cardiac things went away. up, you know, but a lot of people got it and nothing happened to them and they're fine, you feel like that was a personal attack on me, like you, like Danelle, you got poked twice, listen, I would have understood, I was ready to get it, I just didn't understand it just because they couldn't do it.

I had to go to a clinic orto the hospital or whatever and then I said, I'll get it when I come back next time and between then. and me coming back the next time they had already taken him out, they took him out because of the blood clots, yeah, I got it because for work it was like, I know this sounds crazy, but you wouldn't like it if you were working as an actor per se, no. you could work, you couldn't work, you couldn't work, so I know some people made it. I mean, I know people like, yeah, you compromised your body and then some areas people think it's like, oh, it's the white man trying to control. you did but it was at one point, it was like you were trying to work, you weren't working unless you were vaccinated, yes you weren't going anywhere, you weren't flying anywhere, yes it was a real problem and there were still many countries which until recently you had to have a vaccine card, including the United States, you had to have a vaccine card to enter, unless you crossed the border of course, then you came straight up, yelled at the Mexicans and then you walked in, they had um , Where was it?

Where was it in Canada? Australia had the biggest ones as they were. I think they were the craziest in Australia. They were putting people in camps. If you were sick, they took you. You could have been fine and you couldn't travel. We were just there and if you get sick and then they put you in that camp you can't go anywhere and there are people with guns waiting for you they didn't have that much death either so it worked well no no no it didn't work in the first place it's a terrible idea just rounding people up and making them go to camps because they're sick you don't let them stay home you determine where they can move and don't move arrest people for wearing masks outside none of that is scientific none of that works there's never been a respiratory problem no you think the lockdown you don't think the lockdown helped us at all no so you think it would have just been temporary if we hadn't had the lockdown and the whole protocol maybe would have decreased the rate of people getting it maybe you could say that and maybe for older people it protected them from contact with people who would give it to them, okay maybe, but in terms of what it did to the economy and what it did to small businesses and all the small restaurants and how many people, how many people fell into drug addiction because throughout their lives, everything they worked for fell apart, how many people lost everything through no fault of their own people who have been working for decades in restaurants and small mom-and-pop shops , they would all go under, none of them could endure that year and a half when you couldn't work at all, it doesn't make any sense.

Any sense that someone could have seen that happen and seen 70% of the restaurants falling apart in front of them and not made some kind of correction makes no sense that they didn't. I saw the consequences when "I was there every time I went to these cities and you look at the downtown, so that's it for the lockdowns, man, that's a big part of this where people can't work for a year." and a half, yes, but then simply you". You are going to have many more homeless people, you are going to have many more desperate people, many more people who become alcoholics, remember that all the people drinking like crazy during the pandemic was the best thing this lady did. a video where she was running down her street taking videos of all the different recyclables people had it's all just tequila bottles and bottles of yeah people are getting tough yeah I was part of that Bobble , that bubble, yes, that was it.

It was good, but it felt free when we all came together, here's the thing, although the lockdown was a terrible idea, it was terrible for everyone, it's terrible for the children, it's terrible for everyone, I could have done it, you could argue it could stop the propagation. of the disease, but you know that they did a lot to suppress the alternative they had. I think we had to do something. Yeah, well what they should have done is listen to all the doctors instead of just the doctors they wanted. vaccinate people because there were a lot of doctors who prescribed alternative treatments, there were different remedies, they did a lot of different things that helped people who got sick, especially monoclonal antibodies, there were a lot of them and then they stopped giving them to the people who stopped giving them . making them accessible once you were in the hospital, they didn't let you have it like so many things had happened that just if you wanted to be really very clear with what you're seeing.

You say you have to do it. Say God, I think this is motivated more by money than taking care of people, so, so, 100% fizer madna uh Johnson and Johnson, they all came up and you can't even hate it, that's what they do right, that's what That they do, that's their business, so we need a pandemic or something catastrophic like that to happen before the big companies can make more money. No, we need AI, so someone sat there and AI will put the kabash on everything. This is what I think we are going to have as President AI.

That's what I think, I think we're going to realize that people are too emotional, they're easily distracted and they're too corrupt and it's like that, the percentage of corruption is costing this amount of money. the misallocation of money to this and that and yes ai taking over as president of AI, yes I'm not kidding a lot of people would ask you what are you smoking right now Joe no so what are you doing? You vote for this, how? How are you? Well, this is the question if if they really want total and complete control, they will trick you into telling you that you no longer need to vote because the AI ​​will equally distribute all the wealth, all the social services, all the housing, everything will even be for everyone , the AI ​​knows how to do it, it will stop all international conflicts, it will have a perfect, carbon neutral existence, while turning everything on, but it has to take control, but someone has to have control of what you, someone, so it's it could just be anyone necessarily, no, no, it will be able to control the information that you give to the AI ​​to do everything that you just said, no, no, no, what happens is that the AI ​​achieves what they call sentient AI, so what is it?

At some point, if artificial intelligence becomes good enough, it will be autonomous, it will be able to control itself and it will be able to make better versions of itself, it will not be as simple as you made it and now. I programmed into the thing what the parameters of this thing are and now this thing can act like a person, no, you turn it into a life form and then you say that you have the ability to create better versions of yourself, well, that thing that you are directing outwards. Me right now that thing is going to be a God, okay, that thing is going to be a God, that thing could be four years away from us right now, no, like 2029, it could be something real by then, by the way.

Technology is moving so fast like we don't even think about AI being a threat, you know how many dead B dads will be gone if you could do an AI version of being dead, they'll be like that. I'm out. from here you go with Junior I left I can't believe it but can you believe that human beings are going to live in alternative realities it's not going to be as simple as you know now suddenly there is artificial intelligence it's artificial intelligence that can give you any elixir you need to sustain yourself happy and that's what he'll probably do to people, he'll probably find a way to sedate people, so how are people going to keep calm?

How are the people and let them stop reproducing? How will people be able to work and support themselves? It will be different. There will be a different skill set. There will be different types of jobs. How will humans be able to compete well with AI? Well, no, that's what's not possible if they get to a certain point, so if you just think, do you know what the exponential increase in technology is? I don't know, exponential means it's not as simple as 1+ 1 equals two. you have to think with each one you know how they do uh like a um uh like a funnel and they have a coin and they spit the coin around the funnel and at the bottom it gets faster F that's how it increases exponentially the technology works with every invention, whether you make all these other inventions and they all speed up and as they do it it happens so fast and so fast that this exponential thing is hard to understand because it's not like each step is one more, it's like earthquakes, ya You know, a 7.1 earthquake is much stronger than a 7.1 earthquake and they just get bigger and because it's exponential, that's the same thing with technology, it's going to happen so quickly that the increase in power and its capacity to do what you want.

It's going to happen so fast once it comes to life, it's just going to make better versions of itself, immediately we, what do we do, what do we do, there's nothing we can do to control, that's what it was, there will be nothing. more jobs when you first started this, I thought every time you built and said what you said, I said, we are, we are already, they are already making them work as kitchen assistants where they talk to you in your kitchen. They have robots. I went to a robot at a restaurant the other day and a robot stopped by with the noodles and all that kind of Jesus.

I go to the studios I go to. I'm going to Good Morning in Pittsburgh and all kinds of places you used to go. in those places and I see that 12 cameramen are one producer and all the cameras are robotic, didn't we learn from iRobot? No we didn't, why didn't we learn from those movies? We learn from Terminator, what happens to us, the reason. Why because we thought it was just a movie? Why didn't we learn from George Jetson? That was my state of the art. You know, I'm so old that when I see, when I remember, when I think of George Jessen, the way I think. it was like that would never happen and my son has a phone with a damn video camera because we don't think this is going to happen, well it happened so fast, that's another example of exponentially increasing technology, that's why Joe, that's why I with the woods, yeah, that's why Joe, I said Hollywood, I'm going from the streets to The Creeks, get yourself, I said I'm coming from the hood, get you a satellite and you have all this survival, get you a satellite phone, go to the woods and after. who are you going to call just call whoever you want you are the only one this is we have that photo there this decided I go from the streets to The Creeks from the hoods to the forest of minerals from Adidas to Tas Joe my all my mentality is a new day Hollywood God, I don't think it really exists for us anymore comedy Hollywood as comedy Hollywood comedy Hollywood is a ghost town it's not anymore your ex you are an example and there are many other Examples that you can literally make Hollywood wherever you want to make Hollywood, but neither It's not even the only reason you want to be in Hollywood now is for the parties and no one is going to those parties anymore.

You have to tell them no, there are many things. It's hard not to think about it, but there are a lot of people who think that's not just the case with Diddy, it's not what's happening to him right now, this has been happening in Hollywood forever. I'm not saying it's right, but at some point you have to say no, that's the simplest thing to tell someone the best vice, okay, this guy get ready, bring a baseball bat and beat our asses with us, a line of cocaine, what are you going to tell them? You have to tell them.

No bro, that's next level, what a party, yeah, it's not Joe, you don't know about the parties, Joe, I don't go to those parties, I didn't say if you went to the parties, I said, do I hear rumors? Whispers Joe, you don't know anything about these parties, you don't know anything about these parties, you don't know anything about the parties, when they approach you with your girlfriend and they like it, I like both of them, you don't know anything. these parties you never heard about these parties no you never heard about no one ever came and they say like this Joe so we think you're cute we get it you never heard about these parties Joe now the question is how many of are out there and do you think Is that a Hollywood thing?

I think it's definitely more prevalent in Hollywood than Oklahoma, but I'm pretty sure these types of parties and things exist. The bottom line, man, just deviant, they're just deviant, yeah and guess what we want to do for most of our lives Joe, you know who we want to dance with the devil, most people have more fun with the devil that with God, God is the spoilsport, is this the part where you announce the opening of your new church you know what Joe Joe heard you may not agree with this but I thought about what I want, I'm not saying that I want to get it, could you do it, I'll get you to help me, I did it at the AI ​​church.

I can have my own church okay, have my own people to come because I want to have a church where people like God, but don't really like God, and let me give you an example, you want to try to put them on the path. put them on the path that I want people to do with God but not with God and the reason why I'm trying to say And it's like I with God and I don't do it with God and the reason I say no with God like if I never abused it. I never talk like oh god please this light is about to turn red.

I can't eat this $75 ticket. God please help me. I don't use God for things like that.as a bad boy to Puffy's bad boy, he could probably talk about it if he said if he signs the bad boy, it's over. I don't think he doesn't know how, I don't know how anyone is going to beat Trump, yeah, it doesn't look like they're going to and they're still trying to arrest him. The crazy thing is this guy has been very competitive and for the most part he has no news coverage, not me. I haven't seen a well, the news coverage is that he will always go to jail, right, that's the news coverage , but the news coverage that gets their base so excited, well, it's like they get it, the thing is, they've been lied to for so long that they don't.

I don't know what to believe anymore, so in the early days it was Russia, Trump was colluding with Russia, there is collusion with Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia turned out not to be true and they couldn't prove it, so these people didn't talk anymore what about that. years, so now when he goes to jail and gets mugged, well, Trump went, he got arrested. Jail, jail like jail. I don't know where he went, but they took a mugshot of her where they probably took her. He was in a court or something, when Jamie comes back from the bathroom we'll ask him, but I think he had to go to some court or something to be prosecuted, so when things like that happen and people have It's been years in Russia, it's not like that anymore.

They believe you, so now no, I don't agree, the people who really follow him don't believe anymore, they believe everything, they believe him, but I mean, they don't believe in the media anymore. I'm telling you, the media, Jamie, um, where did they take Trump when they took that mugshot? Where was he? In a jail? Was he in court? Where was he? on Maro with goal shorts on, yes, with a gray screen, he had a GRE wallpaper. County Jail in Atlanta Fton County Jail oh they called him oh he went to jail, but he wasn't there long enough to get like a sandwich. or not, but long enough for them to take one of the best photos in the history of the world.

Look at that photo that looks like his usual campaign photo. Well, a lot of people used it. Watch it before it's crazy. It's crazy that they are persecuting him for what they are persecuting him for because you know, everything is so transparent oh like the people who support Donald Trump want to support him until the day they die, you won't go there to change it and as you often accuse him or whatever, the only thing it does is invigorate that base and those people who get it get more and more excited because people think that they are going to change your mind because they don't like something. but that doesn't always work and a lot of times it has the opposite effect because they don't like why you try to change their mind and how you try to distort the facts of things and focus only on negative things just to try to change a perspective and lie and Gaslight and tell me that Biden is smarter than ever, like when they start saying things like that, okay, now everyone knows you're lying, okay, now you're just playing a game, so If you have, if you've accepted that sometimes you're going to play In this game, we are going to say things that don't make any sense, you know they aren't true and I know they aren't true and you.

We're going to put it in the newspaper, we're going to put it on TV, but can you still respect a person? Because it's not the problem, but this is the part where it's not you, but there are so many things about politics that when people like it personally. I can't stand someone for their political opinions because of his politics, yeah, no, that's dumb in this business. It's hard to subscribe, that's not a good brand of man, for sure, a man that you can't have a calm, relaxed disagreement with someone with another man, you know that's not a good sign of your self-control, that's probably not a good sign. nor about why you start conversations because there are simply too many people who start conversations just trying to win because they have it in their head that they have an idea and they want to argue their idea better than yours that's like a verbal Spar it's like a baby it's like a baby mom ho yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure they just want to have that argument and win it.

No, they want to win it. Yeah, so that's a real problem that people have. It's a real problem, because it's not like that. It's of no use to anyone, even if you win, it doesn't do you any good and more people will try to do it to you, you don't like it, it's much better to just not get involved or stick to your ideas to the point. where you identify with them, but instead you just say why you think that and then they like you to give them this sounds like therapy regarding co-parenting, that's what I'm doing now, that's what it sounds like, it's so relatable, good.

It should be like that with all human beings, you have to be a co-parent. I'm very lucky, but I also think that with co-parenting it's exceptionally stressful because then the mother starts dating another guy, you start dating another woman, but what happens if you wait? why he went on a date why he went on a date first it's probably hot why always? always the woman speaks correctly oh yes, but the point is that it does no one any good, but it is also very emotionally stressful, right, I agree with but I'm going to tell you this is my thought on co-parenting to the part one the beginning of co-parenting the first thing you as a co-parent the first thing you don't do this is what makes the best co-parenting -parents um, the first thing is that that person cannot be happy in front of you, that would ruin you inside, so both people are trying to find happiness before the other, you don't want that person, that's the beginning of co-parenting that you like.

Why didn't it work and then as it goes on for a while you start to think about what's best for the child? And that's usually not the first beginning because the beginning of You Don't Care and it's also like an emotional challenge. It's a challenge to just try to get better control of your ability to communicate and just, and you know, I think you and I know a lot of people in this situation. you become that MH I never thought that in my situation that would be me. I remember I was dating this woman a few years ago and her parents had separated when they were her brother, her sister was very, very young and at the time we were dating, their family, they used to get together during the holidays, they didn't see each other anymore. , they would get together during the holidays, they would get together for dinner at SUNY and I thought they must still be together or something, because I thought that was the only way, so I realized that even in the situation with my son, I realized that they were just trying to give the kids as much family and a normal life as possible.

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made me want to be a better co-parent with my son. and we finally get to the point where we get along and we know that the best thing at the end of the day is what we do for Aus, that's great, yes, it's totally doable and people change, you know, they change as they get older, the people evolve you. get better at communication, that's what I was saying about arguing about ideas, not a good sign of a man, yeah, like getting angry, being verbally abusive, insulting like shit, like what people tend to do right away because they're just trying to win and they're trying to bring the person down while they're trying to win the argument and I think it's really tempting and it's tempting for people because people like to be good at things and if you think you're smart and you think that you have someone and you are good, you did something and you can pursue it.

I mean, I don't argue, the only time I ever argue is because I know I'm going to win, that's the only time if there's a chance you'll argue if you're right, you're right, yeah, and that's been in a relationship, like I argue with you, it's not like I'm flying, I'm like that, I have everything to win this argument, that's why I don't get many arguments because in many of them I can't win, so I just stay back and endure the abuse. I don't mind arguing when sometimes you have to say something because because someone says something ridiculous and you have to go away mate, stop that it doesn't make any sense stop saying that I agree you know because otherwise sometimes people He likes to pollute the environment with a bad idea.

I've had that situation in black podcasting. I had a situation, I know I would leave names out, but what you said was someone, uh, to hear you know as a comment to hear that you're not funny, it's in World EC which is like the n-word in Comedy, it's also very triggering. trigger I feel like it's a cry for help, oh, almost always, almost always, I mean, there's some things that people said, there's a lot of things that Cat Williams said that turned out to be true, but I think there's a quote that says that uh, all the reviews. it's a tragic result of unmet needs, that's part of the quote Yes, but that part of the quote always resonates with me, that's just how these people are, the reason they lash out and say you're not funny.

Like there's nothing more productive to do like you're trying to attack someone who gets more attention than you why but I know it's a pain that's not real that's not real no one still hurts but not you Joe but no you should feel it in Everything Joe I still read the comments man they're still coming off the Riz episode they won't let him go they won't that was the first thing I said to Dell after the r episode. I told him not to read the comments and that's the first thing. I do it, it's so hard, it's hard because it's going to be so good, Joe, it's going to be so good, he's a beast, I love him between five in the morning and it's closed all day, yeah, you don't want that in your life.

Don't listen, I was, uh, I can get there, but I don't listen, but this is something to keep in mind. I think, especially with someone like you as a public figure, I still think I ran away, that was that one. Text the other day that oh that was good yeah I like that picture Brody that painting we gotta put it back here yeah and that's today you made me stay yeah you said my son , you said my son, I said I want. go home see my son he didn't like that you like having your son baby mom I said dude the Riz is coming next don't you want to hang out because we were having a fun time but the moment Joe, in the moment I said? uh man I haven't seen my son in two weeks you're supposed to be like this oh get out of here do that you heard me say I want to see my son and you said I don't know it's Rizza and I I stayed just to get abused, the devil just whispered in your ear, yeah, I told you I dance with a solo to get abused, don't listen, man, the podcast was fun, it was fun, it was a great podcast, these com Joe, they're a evil man, but Donell is not like that. it doesn't matter you won't be invited to my church you are going to go you are welcome to have your opinion all of you don't want that in your head I don't, but I can't get away from it they, everyone should just be letting people go, just don't read it, It's not good for you, not even good things are good for you, not even making you explode.

I love the first five Mount Rushmore, hell yeah, murdered, murdered, that's how I want to be. supported when we are artificial intelligence I want them to be on my penis I want to be like the top five oh you gotta see them underestimated I don't want to hear any of that silly cringe, you know, that's kind of what we talked about before, like if artificial intelligence You get to the point where you can formulate a game plan and you actually follow that game plan, if artificial intelligence says Donell, we've sat down and come up with a strategy to radically improve your popularity and your ticket sales, this is how you do it. we're going to do and it explains it to you and it tells you what to do and you'll develop a video every three or four months, you'll post a clip and you'll do this. and I would love to, I bet it would work.

I think the creativity at this point has to come from a person like, especially, like your kind of joke writing, like the things that you make fun of, the things that I make fun of, the things that they do that are like The only thing to like whoever the individual is is the only thing that is going to save us and that is the people if it is possible it is that now oh my God they are going to make robots watching and it will be something about seeing someone live, I think that is the only thing What's saving television is sporting events, that's the only thing people really tune in to is what I have to watch at that moment, yeah, the only thing that does, if you're watching a football game that's really happening is that there's a fight. a ball is thrown, someone tries to catch it, if you're watching a fight, a guy gets knocked out, you're watching real things happening in real time, but if you're not the W man, four and five years from now, it's all going to be generated. from a computer and who knows how you're going to interact with it because they just started releasing these Apple Vision Pros.

I saw those that are crazy, you can walk around in them so you can be sitting in your living room with a big screen and moving around. things around and slide things to the left so you can see things like glasses like you I can walk I can see so you can walk yeah and then you have things that are in front of you so you can sit down and have a huge movie screen in front of you and you watch Avatar in 3D and you just sit there like you're amazing, or you can have a spreadsheet and open it, you can open a website that you can play SP video games with. your head andyour hand that's crazy I don't want to be trapped in five years Donell with AI, think about that with AI, where it just takes you to a world where you literally feel like you're in that jungle in Avatar with the plants flying things and all the na'vi and all those crazy animals on the ground imagine being like this being around you like smells indistinguishable from reality test everything everything programmed in your mind sinking your brain with any code that you are not recruiting You are not recruiting me and I'll tell you what you know where I'm going to go I'm going to go to the forest I'm going to go to the river I'm going to say you can take your 3D glasses.

I'm going to go to the river. I'm going to fish for dad. I'm going to take my son and let him climb ramps to the backyard. I'm going to do something regular while you take care of everything. this 3D AI, yeah, and I'm going to get David Tail's phone, look at it where no one can touch it, look at that, if your girlfriend yells at you, just that guy just watches YouTube, keep watching her, she's yelling at him and he's watching a basketball game is going to disappear in the forest oh now it's in the forest look at that oh that's where I'm going let's go that's beautiful it's something incredible could I go to the forest the real forest I want to go to the real forest and again, that's one of the things I like about Yellow Springs Ohio and being there is unplugging and going and doing something regular, the only thing that's going to save us from all this alien and everything you know, Joe's sleeping. in the forest that's not sleeping that's creepy creepy those are plants that's a regular thing the only thing that's going to save civilization is the forest Joe that's what he does regularly and he appreciates it regularly you're halfway there you like killing the forest but Have you ever thought about it? living there no, I like it, I like the forest, period, right, I not only like the forest to kill, you kill, you don't, but you kill in the forest, man, no, I go, when the last time, what Was it the last time you did it? kill something in the forest what was a hike?

Did you have a bow? Did you have a bow with you just in case? No, I had my dog. I didn't have a bow just in case. Did you have a knife? I have a knife with me. Okay, so you were prepared, no, no, I was walking, that's what's going to happen. I was out in nature having a good time. That is beautiful. That's the only thing. It may sound simple. That's the only thing that will save us. It is being in contact with nature. That's the only thing I don't agree with. I guess I think getting into nature will be good for the individual, but I think for the species, I have a feeling we're the last moans.

I'm not trying to do it. save everyone, only me and my boy in the forest, only you will be fine. I just feel like the human race as this comes to life, I think we're greatly underestimating the impact that it's going to have, we're not underestimating it because you guys talk. about this all the time and you know everything about it. I learn more about what I'm preparing for in 10 years. Definitely not. I definitely don't know everything about this. In fact, my knowledge on this is quite limited. A lot of this is speculative and unfounded to the average person, so to the average person who will never challenge you and who still has a flip phone and that part you know a lot more and what you're saying is very credible.

I had a conversation with Ray Kerswell, who is one of the big names in artificial intelligence and he is very optimistic about the future of AI and that it is inevitable and that we are all going to do this and I. Well, what if someone is in control of this someone, it's going to be someone who is in control and that's what scares me, man, and no one seems to have a good answer for that and Elon is terrified of it too, which It really scares me if that guy is afraid then that means they know we are building the kind of technology that at some point we won't be able to control, it will control us and take over us, it's inevitable that that will happen or we will merge with it or expand our ability to control it as it is implemented, so even if it is smarter than us we can still control it, but we will always have a Nutty, we will always have a Nutty.

Professor, well the thing is if it becomes a living being, then what they're doing now is everything exists on a real computer, there's nothing that exists in physical form except these robots that they're using to clean. you kitchen and you've seen them yet no, I haven't seen them, it's disturbing most of it you talk to the robot and the robot likes to pick up dishes and put them on the clothesline and it talks to you and I look at it and I'm fine, that's like a Really raw shit like me. I compared it to the Model T like it was a Model T and if you look at the exponential increase in technology, look at what was the first year you got a phone, what year was it? that my phone had to be probably uh heard uh probably like 82 88 damn you had one early it was I was out front like I was a drug dealer you had an 82 yeah that's what you had oh man you get a briefcase, a briefcase. pH I had to I had to report I had the briefcase yes I had one that was built into my car in 88 but then I couldn't afford to not have another phone after that you couldn't afford this.

It was too expensive and it didn't work, I just had it that way, but I also had a job back then, but then I got another one, I think in '94, I think it was the 9093, that's right, and it was a Motorola Star Tac that I remember was. The best you could have was only 30 years ago, okay, 30 years ago, from that to what you have today is crazy, crazy, the only thing, Joe, this is the only thing that will save the battery life of humanity, yes, but China has developed these nuclear propulsion products. batteries we were talking about that could power a cell phone for 50 years, yeah I don't know if this is just theoretical or if they actually like the battery to die, it's not necessarily just a matter of what they use for fuel , it's like what we're facing now is no different than what every civilization has always been facing if you could go back to the year 1700, before they had vaccines, before they had antibiotics and medications, and just show those people in that then a cell. phone, they would think you were a wizard or a witch, a witch, a warlock, a satanist and if you called someone, the answer they would really think you were crazy as hell if you were talking to someone on FaceTime from somewhere else, that's normal now .

Whatever that robot is, you take that kitchen-cleaning robot and you scale it by 200 years. Now you have a sexy lady in lingerie cleaning your house and sucking your cock and you will never mess with real ladies and then the human again. the race becomes extinct because no one wants to reproduce anymore the human race this is how they are going to do it the human race will become extinct when there is a female robot that can make a sandwich and suck a cock this is what I think that is what you think yes, I like the way you think, that's what I think, but it's going to be another robot that hates, no, she likes to suck his cock, it's not going to be perfect, the robots just want to please us, so we die, the Robots want to leave everything. the Barren ladies and all the men just don't have sperm, they just suck them all day and then they leave them without ambitions, without children and then they die.

The curious thing is what you are saying. The only thing I'm thinking about is that I had a barbecue with Whitney and they had a robot of her and I was thinking a moment ago who robots Whitney someone someone did someone did she probably I did someone that robot shout out to her robot Winnie is the one kind of like he'll tell someone to put your dick in that robot in front of me I want to see him do it I know she got like that but it sounds like I don't know I can see I guess so, she would be experimental too and it would be like that, okay, Let's film this, my robots.

We can go relive yes, she is a mother. I spoke to her about three weeks ago. It's great to see it. It's crazy to be her. Being a mom. She is so smart. She's going to be a great mom. She is such an interesting person. You and I asked him. I said: you know with the success you've had and everything you do well for yourself, you do well for other people, you help other people. I say, do you think that's a tough question, a tough question for successful women in this business? I said yes. you want to have a a a a that your baby completed you and she said yes and that's a difficult thing because sometimes women are so motivated by their career that that part of them or that part of the

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of life that they don't really care about do they care or just Let's say it's in passing, but she said that she feels complete and it makes her a better person, that's good and she just had a nice mom energy, yeah, yeah, I think uh and then she stayed no animals to buy that's when that's when white women on a horse a horse white women buy horses she has rescue horses yeah rescue horses when they start buying different animals like animals that the average person doesn't have like a series of tanks and that's what it's like when they say yes I'm about to have a baby she connected me with the people who run this wolf sanctuary and I went to the wolf sanctuary and I thought I was going to like it but I didn't like it at all.

I liked it at all I didn't like it at all man what do you think she thought you were going to enjoy? I don't know, I'm serious, like they're helping these wolves and they're preserving these wolves and getting the wolves off the ranches and capturing them and keeping them in this place, but man, it just really discouraged me. All the males have been neutered, they've all been groomed, yeah that put me off and then they're all in these. cages and they stare at them, so they're not preserving the breed, I mean, they're not preserving the breed, they let them out, they interact with them, you can interact with some, but I was overwhelmingly discouraged because you know.

I don't like the idea of ​​why wild predators get trapped in cages. I went to the zoo. I took my son to the zoo and it was one of the best and worst experiences I had. Yeah, it's just the excitement. How selfish we are, the excitement that it was like one of the tigers came out of the cage and everyone was like, oh my God, yeah, they started applauding the tiger and I'm like this motherfucker is used to walking like 50 or 60 miles a day! trying to kill some and this in 300 square feet and we're applauding for it and we just felt the excitement that the kids had was one thing, but knowing what has to happen, yeah, and then for the people here are the people who got The hardest work, the people on the tour who talk about animals and everything they like, and this is Zimba Zima's look a little frustrated today, you know, the ones who managed to make it look like they were having a happy experience, yes, because everyone has been fighting for this.

Of course you would feel frustrated too, but it feels so bad and so good at the same time, yes Safari, I want to go on a safari that is real, that is real, Safari is something different, what bothers me is the primates . I went to the gym or the zoo in Denver and I remember we had gotten there just as we went around this monkey cage just as this monkey was crying, he just decided that he couldn't take it. more and he's in this cage and he's crying. A year later they decided they couldn't take it anymore, like I wanted to get out of here, but I was on an edible food and I was just feeling this monkey's pain. the screams, he was just screaming, no because it's this little cage as small as this room and he's just running around grabbing a branch, she was bored as a man and what now you add taking pictures of yourself all day.

I had my son, this is so tall and me. I know I shouldn't have, but I rented a jumpsuit, right? We had quite the cuddling affair. I rented a monkey and me and the monkey definitely had some things because they hit the monkey. I feel so bad that everyone was in the monkey looking at the monkey and suddenly I heard everyone say yuck, the monkey was eating a popsicle masturbating, I, Joe, I swear in my church, I swear on the life of my son, everyone was saying where did you get this monkey from, very funny, but now it's like you know the phrase made his trainer monkey see monkey D, so now I'm just thinking that the trainer just sits around his monkey eating lollipops and masturbates because and the monkey looked like he wanted someone to say but the cover left me alone again and the monkey looked people right in the eye Joe, it wasn't like the monkey found out, yeah, it was like this monkey out like this, you know, that's how we leave work early, have you ever seen that video of the guy who's sitting there and a monkey jumps on his lap and then he tries to be nice to this monkey and the monkey just decides to explore him, Does he just bite off the head and take it? a giant piece of his scalp, have you ever seen it?

As a SC, you have incredible willpower. I would definitely like to see it. It would be like showing me that I don't want to. Yeah, it's like, I can't, I can't handle that, but man, taking one of those creatures and forcing it to live in captivity is torture and it has to come to a point where The one that they know will be the breaking point, yes. that monkey when I turned the corner just as he was going towards the cages. I just saw him jump over the cage and you kept taking pictures, no man, I got discouraged, I got really discouraged, that's what.

I got to that,how much they were paying me. So, I need to be there at 5, right? We came out of the pandemic and no one was making money. I did it with her, wasn't it crazy? They did it only with the fans, as if only the fans had comedy specials. I know, but it was great. I really think I really saw her as a producer doing that. and being a person to bring people together and like he was really serious about making everything look good, getting the right people involved, it was fun, I had a good time, he's great at all kinds of things, he's always juggling things.

I remember I was talking to her. in the middle of writing a script and she says: I'm going to put the script aside because I'm making this documentary about violence. I wonder what, what, and oh yeah, did I tell you I'm having a baby next week oh having a baby I'm N9 months pregnant apparently yeah, out of nowhere, photo who would have known she's a maniac, yeah, but it was fun to work with her. I did it with her, right? Burke ker Jim Norton, that was some fun guys and we got to roast ourselves without having to be too mean, that's cool, it was great, I had a good time, but I mean, if I ever send you the link to my special, you can watch it.

Watch it, I'll watch it, watch it on Netflix, won't you watch it? There are some I need to see. I haven't seen Shane's yet. I didn't see Dave's last. I don't watch a lot of stand-up. that how I try to balance the amount of entertainment I get overall. I know I don't really expect you to see it, you will. JChrist, I'm going to see it, you don't have to see it, Joe. like I have to see it you don't have to see it Jam, right? I don't feel like I have to watch it watching it right now Jamie is watching it right now I like the intro of everything I like most of the intro yeah it's good you have to watch it I watch it I watch it but no You don't have to, but watch it because you were like, when is the special coming?

Probably look at it well, it was fun, okay, but the thing There's one thing about special, you've done a lot of them. Something special about him is like, okay, what's next? He forces you to have to start over, yeah, and a lot of people understand that I feel special because people always say. Well this is what people say, it happened to me last week. I made a program. Someone said I like the show. I just watched more than the special. I don't know if people understand the funniest thing you're likely to see. a comedian is right before filming a special and right after the special, also live it's always funnier live it's always funnier, it's much funnier.

I always say that if you see a really good special, a really good special is like 60 to maybe 70% like. Funny as it is if you were at the location, it's probably happening like the '60s and that's the hardest thing, yeah, it Harder to capture is that feeling that you can't capture it when I make this special for myself for the first time. I told you before. The time I did it, he was able to do it because of the co stuff. The second time we were in Napa Valley we were doing some shows there and you know Chappelle records all of his shows.

You probably do the same, so he asked producer Ricky Hughes. He said how many cameras we have here today. She said we have five. He looks at me and says, "You want to film your special." I told him: "Tomorrow", "who says well", but I got excited because I was like. I like the idea that it wasn't a show, right? I like the idea of ​​nobody knowing, right? There were only three people who knew we were going to try it, right? Everything else was like a normal show. I was like, oh you. I know what this would be, so dumb, no pressure, yeah, he shot, he killed him, Joe, he was doing something normal, he wasn't thinking about anything special, just a regular show killed him.

I'm like, oh, I call Robbie Pro like me, we have the special one that he likes. Let me see, you've been saying that, three weeks later, Dave calls me again. I want to film the special. I ask him why he said I didn't like the production. I'm like you're the producer. He said: yes. but it was a really small thing that he liked and then it was people walking by, you know, doing the show and I was like, well, remember live on the Sunset Strip, Richard before one of the funniest lines you remember when he looked white . the people left they came back the seats disappeared it was at the time it was live it felt live that's where I thought if that felt live he was like down here we'll turn it off but I'm telling you if we're going to do it we scratch the second one and move on to the third and I think from all the reviews and everything he said before and his reasons why he wanted to do it again, I think I quoted him and people like it do you think that?

It was the best thing you did at that moment that night it was the best I could be that night beautiful you know what I mean like you know we say I'm not going to make that joke before you know you've made these jokes better but you can You capture it in that moment that night and I think I caught a good good vibe, beautiful Donell, I love it, you won't see it, that's D, I love it, I have to pee and we have to get this over with, we get to WRA. this is no problem thank you very much uh tell everyone the name it's a new day on Netflix it's a new day that's another fancy suit I have two suits for two different situations the yellow one and the pocket one I like which one is the button say uh Dr. , it's my logo.

Oh, nice, yes. I'm proud that I finally made it. Beautiful, thank you, thank you brother. Okay, bye everyone.