Images of Black Men in America (1988) | Huey P. Newton, Ishmael Reed and Jawanza Kunjufu

from San Francisco, the people on every Channel Five are talking to a Jew and they lost, my God, welcome to the people are talking, happy birthday to Martin Luther King, today is the day we observe his birth, we do it all over the world country and the F

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om Train that has already left San Jose is on its way to San Francisco and what you are seeing now or almost now are many people who were boarding one of the two F

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om trains that will transport something like 4,000 people from San José to San Francisco today for the holidays and there will be a march from the Townsend Train Station to the Civic Auditorium starting at 11:30 here in San Francisco, 11:30 this morning, then this afternoon and at 7:00 There will also be a demonstration at the San José Civic Auditorium in honor of the late Dr.

Martin Luther King was assassinated just 20 years ago, on April 4, 1968, and a planned effort that we'll tell you about a little later in the program to make sure schoolchildren learn about dr. King and all the good works he has done KPIX has published a brochure and will show it to you a little later. You know this morning we're going to talk about the image of

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men in our society. Not long ago, Newsweek did a comprehensive report. cover story and I want to read you just a little excerpt from that story that says that

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men are six times more likely than white men to be murder victims, they are two and a half times more likely to be unemployed, they finish last and virtually all socioeconomic measures, from infant mortality to life expectancy, and some feel that black men in America seem almost an endangered species, so it's interesting that many people perceive black men as less intelligent, less productive, more hostile than the rest of society and today in the In commemoration of Martin Luther King Junior's birthday, we thought it would be interesting to confront these stereotypes that we have with us this morning to share his ideas.

Three very interesting men. We have Huey Newton, former Black Panther. We have Ishmael Reed, professor of English literature at UC Berkeley and we have Jaanda Kunju tricking the author into countering the conspiracy to destroy black children. Could you give the three of them a warm welcome? Gentlemen, thank you for coming to visit us this morning. People are talking about AB. We're definitely going to get it. in the image of black men in America, but are you three still reeling from Jimmy the Greek's comments last Friday? Well, no. I thought the comments were pretty accurate. I believe that blacks are a superior genetic land based on the success of reproductive survival. you have to reproduce to survive and black people have been subjected to 400 years of slavery, given the worst food, the worst medical care, the worst housing, so that would select for the weakest genetic lines and that is why we would be proportionally represented in only Over all areas they were given a chance.

I'm glad I made these comments, yes now if the flights wanted to be superior they would allow blacks to be slaves for over 400 years their genetic wicker rails would become extinct so I think the station treats Jimmy the unfairly Greek. that dismissed him and I think the other group that would probably have a superior genetic line based on the success of reproductive survival or our Jewish people who have not been expelled or killed for years and I would like to emphasize that it has nothing particularly to do with the race. It has to do with selecting a weak lying gene or weak weak surnames not in an absolute sense, but simply that people can't stand oppression if they are small, how do you feel?

And that is that last year there were millions of black children who wanted to play in the NBA of that million only 400,000 even got to play in high school of those 400,000 only four thousand will be able to play in college of those four thousand only 35 Of those 35, only 7 will make it to the NBA. We started and the average life in the NBA is four years, so the real problem is that we have a million brothers looking for seven full-time jobs in the last four years and yet , last year we had 100,000 jobs available to be an engineer computer programmer or a doctor and only a thousand qualified brothers, so I appeal to black men, I don't realize that the chances of you doing it more are that you will do it better.

I mean, we were the first doctor, not Epocrates, in the hotel, so we have the ability for math, science or music. in sports but in what you do most in what you do best if you play basketball from 3 to 9 you will be a very good basketball player if you went home and went to the library you would be a Very good scholar we need more encouraging black male role models our young people in mathematics and science. Ismael, how are you reacting to this? Yes, you were greeted by the comments, but you were what offended me, but I hear those types of notes all day. every day and I think he said what you think a lot of people don't say before I came here he was tuned to another channel okay I think the interviewer was trying to compliment Arthur Mitchell from the Harlem Ball. group and I try to congratulate and say well, these people don't like Superfly IV Bob, they like things that are more shaped, more elegant and sophisticated.

I can't think of any musical form that's more sophisticated and elegant than bebop, so I took that as an insult against a plumeria community, so I think what happens is that we run the risk of singling out people like Nick the Greek and Al Cap'n is that weight loss, yeah, that they have working class styles and we let these elitist people in. culture and education slip through the cracks, you want animation so I'm held to a double standard, people from working class backgrounds like those two guys get criticised, but people in the industry I work in and the University and the culture escape, they make comments like that all the time, in other words, it's a good thing that it's come to light.

It hit people in the face and made them realize that they have this deep programming going on. I don't see why anyone would feel insulted. by someone who says the article is superior Reverend Jesse Jackson, who is dr. Huey Newton says right now dr. Jimmy the Greek also said that if blacks are given the opportunity to run other areas, they will probably be superior there too, so I don't see where anyone could find him other than the majority group who are afraid of blacks because of our superiority you said well, oh yeah, I said well, because it's true, it's easy for us to lash out at this person, but he meant you know that was his programming, it wasn't right, he meant exactly what he said, that was very important. for him, so we have to look at that and realize that this is how people think, how do we change people's thinking?

In other words, I don't want to change it if you put obstacles under the cruelest and most savage oppression throughout the beginning of the enslaving period. Oh, what Jean line would be left other than a very strong Jean line? I think it's ridiculous to think that, in a biological sense, a weak genetic line wouldn't be eliminated after receiving the worst food, the worst medical care, etc. I think what people really want to do is read Jimmy the Greek statement that black people are only good at athletics and black people can't be good at quarterback or management, but he didn't say that, I think.

I think your program reads into it black inferiority because that's what you used to see and I don't know what their intentions were either. So how do we reprogram that so we don't think black people are okay? You just have to stop being racist first. I came across your racism and at first it seemed to me that maybe you should be a little afraid of the people you have tried to commit genocide against, not just then but now. Jiwan is... is it the media's fault? Well, there is no doubt that there is a direct relationship between

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and self-esteem and it goes back to Tarzan, Superman, Rambo, Batman, even painting the image of Jesus Christ as white.

I mean, you can't separate racism from anything, so no, it's not unlikely. Then you have Pope Julius commissioning Michelangelo in 1505 to paint wine

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of Jesus Christ. He controls self-esteem. Abraham Lincoln discovered it very early when you had 300 slaves on a plantation and one master. It is a lot of work. Why don't you let them go? don't teach them who they are to control their history control the images then you won't have to see it whoever controls the mind will also control the box talk about the image of the black man in America when we return stay tuned trying to Find here the card of an article that had read in Sylvester Munroe's Newsweek magazine.

A Newsweek reporter returned to the projects and to Chicago to see where he had grown up and said he saw the image of a black man. In the United States it's like when he gets into an elevator, a woman grabs his bag tighter for herself, she's afraid that this black man will steal it. He's walking down a deserted street with a black friend and a white couple walks towards them and they crossed the street out of fear of these black men is that the image of black men in America, as you see it, is one of the things that I'm worried about one of the books I read about the strobe conspiracy. boys is what happens from the beginning and one of our concerns that we have is studying the document that black boys can be the best teams in the country until fourth grade, then the question is what happens with black boys in the upper intermediate grades to start creating the kind of image you're talking about when they turn 18 or older.

I sincerely believe that only men can have children, men now, don't misquote me. I didn't say that a single mother couldn't raise or educate her child, but she doesn't need to do that for ourselves, we could understand that once on television she is trying to make it very clear where the black child will see black men if you look at the house 38 percent 30 38 percent of all black children live in a single race home in terms of news about school age and relevance school teachers for women ninety-five percent of our teacher assistants are women when you watch television, It would be hard to name five positive black men on TV outside of the news, especially if I exclude Bill Cosby and sadly a lot of young people don't go to church so the last place is the streets and that's the problem.

The streets do a very poor job of converting black men. What's wrong with your problem? Black children have difficulty seeing strongly. black male role models, why are these types of shells very important? What about Eddie Murphy? He is a positive male role. Yes, I'm concerned that I really respect his ability to use his talents, but there are other ways. I mean, images are very important and even. However, and even in his last movie that he was in, he even used a snap about Bill Cosby and said, "You know, you can make things funny without using four-letter words," etc., etc., it's like Eddie Murray said you understood, but he didn't.

I'm using four-letter words all over his store again, like we need to clean that up. How about some of the black men in the audience this morning? Has he ever had experiences where when he takes off his coat and tie he gets treated? different, yeah, Carl TOEIC, I mean, sorry Emmett, or I'm definitely involved in politics and when I was getting naked, I see a lot of different things than when I had my tie on, how do they treat you differently? Well, take like. Take, for example, if you're walking down the street and you know I grew up in a white environment most of my life, if I'm alone and I walk around white people, they'll look at me strangely.

Like I've done something red, I've done it or I haven't, but I wanted to ask questions. I want the gentleman to address, in terms of the media and the government, how they degrade our leadership and also our government, how they spend. more money putting our brothers and sisters in jail and in terms of not taking care of the educational part, I think that is the root of our problems in terms of the education of black Americans. I like to reinforce that the United States spends two thousand three hundred dollars on hit starts. three or four points of travel spend twenty-two thirty-eight thousand dollars in prison something we must ask the right questions how long will you stay beaten from the year two years of the month how long will you stay in prison the rest of your life question number one number two, which one works, a longitudinal study documents that Head Start works, but in terms of prison, eighty-five percent of inmates who are released return immediately, so it's Jesse Jackson, he says we have two options, white class America Media, you can have this for me. to Penn State or the state pen No, no, I don't expect, I don't expect institutions in the United States to project positive images of mail blackmail.

The images ofblackmail are created through revolution, through the fight to change the type of oppression, the oppressive conditions that have existed here and that exists and the positive images that we can all be very proud of from our promoters like dr. Martin Luther King and historically not the private twist of Denmark Vesey the Black Panthers who are the Black Panther Party not twisted it wasn't that great it wasn't a big push well, black men in this country well, we believe that and of course we were eliminated there were systematically about a million pages of information collected just on me I don't know how many millions of illegal thefts I don't know how many illegal thefts but I know that I suffered at least 20 or 30 illegal thefts break-ins there were FBI documents that falsified bank records sent and the recommendations resistant banks to our supporters were slander all you scared the people Huey Black Panthers scared Pete every time the black man tries to change the slave image it will scare the white people so the Black Panther Party I thank you when you say that We scare the People, that means we were creating a positive black image for ourselves.

Carlton, you were an original Panther. It is also correct. I was one of the original members of Huey's defense team when he was first charged with the murder of Officer Frey and the assault on the officer. Haynes I have many comments to make and I won't be able to make them all but I would like to make them in order of importance today we are celebrating Martin Luther King's birthday I think at some point we should consider doing Huey P Newton's birthday was a national holiday when I arrived For the first time to the Bay Area from Chicago, he was shocked by the way the police were oppressing black people in the ghetto and the only man who had the guts to stand up was Huey P Newton.

Along with his partner Bobby Seale he was very proud of his actions. I thought Martin Luther King taught us how to pray and how to raise awareness of our oppressor and I thought Huey P Newton taught us how to stand up to our oppressor and that's why I think he should be given a national holiday okay thanks girls you did good job with that. I grew up in San Francisco in the Hunters Point naval projects and I remember being about six or seven years old and we had an area for the Black Panthers. in Hunters Point and I felt so protected that they were there, I felt like I could go out and everything was beautiful, the people, the black people were together in Hunters Point and when we had that big riot on 3rd Street, everyone started robbing each other. not at the time, but it's like we lost our togetherness, we lost it now that you look back at the whole Black Panther movement, are you encouraged by that?

I mean, was it a really positive experience? I think it worked, I think we did it. some of the goals that we set, of course, that black people are not free in the United States to this day, so we have not achieved freedom, but I hope that we have established a history in which we have contributed to the continuous fight for freedom. take a commercial break, we'll be back Ishmael Reed, you weren't happy with the movie, the color purple and the way it portrayed black men, why, well, in my new book, fight righteousness, plug, that's fine , I described some of my reservations about the film, so I thought about it. it was a kind of diction for the writer and the industry behind the writer this is a collective decision it was not just their decision they had a meeting these are feminists I thought it was a kind of diction for them to bring a film about male chauvinism to the biggest sexist from Hollywood, you wouldn't bring a movie about Martin Luther King to Bull Connor, ask him to do it, okay, people say racism, sexism, the same thing.

I couldn't imagine that happening so well for this film to be brought to Steven Spielberg, who has been criticized by Asian-American organizations, Irish-American organizations for his depiction of Irish and Asians and some films, and understands that the looping film that my wife and daughter saw yesterday is anti-Japanese, so they brought this product to her and the goal was apparently to make money, do you understand now that we have a cold and distorted image of Alice from her book? That depends on her. I mean, she was a consultant on the movie she was in. She understood that she worked on a movie until you like it.

What were the characters? It was a story, not a very nice one man, I mean, she has the right to write whatever she wants and Hollywood has the right to do it. I mean, this is my Luther King Day, we're for freedom, no, I'm not coming from censorship. They like to do what they wanted. I'm just pointing out the contradictions in a feminist city. I love you. Now we have another purple clone on the way where they could make a lot of these because they made a lot of money, they made over a hundred. Millions of dollars, and I understand from Fortune 500 that Steven Spielberg is almost a billionaire, so you know we're like a natural resource, that's one thing: Black men take our stuff and make a lot of money off of it.

We should hire ourselves. like the coal industry or something, but anyway, yeah, there's a new movie coming out that will be made by the producers of Rocky. The same thing about feminists took a product about black male chauvinism and took it to whoever produced the misogynistic film Rocky and the movie. rocky made millions of dollars exploiting the public because our fear of black men, you know, you had the scene where mr. I flirt with the man's wife and I get everyone excited when he gets knocked out or beaten or conquered by Rocky, so I think one thing about black sexism is that it's big business and that may be why it's going to be difficult. to eradicate it so what you're saying is they're making a big deal out of the misery of black men oh yeah I'm lifting them up right the ironic thing is these people are liberals you know the people who participated in this this was No They gave us to buy the right, they gave us to buy the liberals.

The liberals in Hollywood were the ones who produced this and that's your guy: Yes, I think we would all agree that education would be the key to remedying many of the problems we have in the country today regarding images of men blacks. I would be interested to hear from some of the Caucasian members of the audience how they could, as citizens and taxpayers, do something to increase the number of blacks. In graduate school I have been teaching in law schools for 12 years and the highest point of enrollment was during the period '68 to '71 after the Black Panther Party was organized, as you know, there were many more job openings, there were more educational opportunities, but now enrollment is down and we want to see how we can increase that.

Well, we didn't get any feedback from us. We have to comment on education early. I feel like you're right and I feel like it's a very missing part. of our society that we don't address the needs of black students, but I think it needs to start earlier than that. I think it should start in the elementary schools and I would like to know how we can change this so that this happens, what do we have to do? I do not believe that education addresses the needs of the black student. I totally agree that one of our problems even before the issue of blind children in prison is 17 percent of all children in this country, but they are 41. percent of all children of special air the edge of a mentally disabled child to learn children's disorder 17 does not equal 41 and labels especially where, in terms of black children, 85% of the time will be a black child, see the The real challenge is for female teachers.

They have designed a classroom for female students, the student with the least singing is specially placed where the white woman is, then the black woman, then the white man, then the black man, so the white boys also have similar problems with this woman. In other words, if you know that children have a higher energy level, you move a lot more in the classroom, if you know that children have more advanced gross motor skills, then a lot more gross motor activities and you understand that children children have a higher ego or some other In many types of issues we need to allow that more in our classrooms and many times we are doing it and we need to pay teachers so that black and white men want to become educators in the early grades.

Very good. I was an affirmative action officer at a major company for four years and while I was there, one of the programs we started was to have some of our black engineers and other female engineers and different minority representatives go with us to high schools and give presentations on the fields in which they were. and what it would take to do that as far as an engineer or technician etc. I think it was a real start and I had some mixed feelings about it. I never liked that it looked staged, but I think it was very effective in achieving the Students Need to Think About It and my only other common reason for having that same program in elementary schools.

The role model mentoring program is a very good program and I need to have more of them. How do you feel about yourself? Is it Joseph Clark? I'm not. I'm sure I have his name right, I hope so, the principal is also Clark Joseph, who is attractive, who is trying to make schools work, who says that if you don't know, if you don't put your nose to work, you're out and he having all kinds of problems, he brought me to his school to talk and my concern about Joe Clark is that whenever you have a school where there is a high disciplinary problem, a high drug problem you can't teach when the schools don't They are safe, he was an important. contribution to making the school safe, but good principals are also strong educational leaders Joe Clark is not a very strong educational leader, he made the school safe now we need to have another type of administrator there for instruction or leadership, in In other words, you need to have someone else who made the school say that this doesn't have to come out of the principal's office, we found out that someone else was born at one point, stay tuned talking about the image of black men in the United States United and, above all, we have listened to black people.

Speaking and in some ways how they perceive themselves and the white members of our audience, the other colors don't say much about the image. I mean, is there any reason to fear in your minds a black man walking down the street and wearing sports clothes? Does anyone feel that? They have to bring their bag closer or maybe they won't be able to leave the car unlocked Angelo I don't know but uh I don't want to fool you either because I'm Puerto Rican so I'm part of the rainbow coalition here, you know, I'm from New York, home of Howard Beach, and one of the problems is that we have to talk about long-term problems and structural problems in society and how do you know, images are projected, what are you doing? in the short term and that is the fact that you have that fear that you have, you know people who can say that you know that there are more blacks, Puerto Ricans and Latinos in prison than the whites that are in prison, you know that proportionally there is more crime and you know black areas and you have this image that you know is based on some realities in the sense of the immediate that has nothing to do with the long term, how do you address those types of problems in the short term? that in terms of you know, if you see a black man on the street and he's not wearing a coat and a tie, maybe even if he is, you're kind of scared, well, I think people are scared, people are scared of me. , you know that you are also Puerto Rican.

There is a lot of fear, but again the question is how do you like New York City? The city is very, very polarized now, like how do you handle those things? As I said, in the short term, one thing we can answer that question very well. quickly just asking ourselves why they bring black people to this country, they bring us to work, does that reason exist today? America has a problem, what do they do with people they no longer need, but remember how you ask the question determines the answer. the black question is what are they going to do for us, the African question is what are we going to do for ourselves, in other words, and very quickly what I'm trying to say is let your well-meaning parents tell their children I tell them to get a good education to be like their father to be the boss to run their own corporations in the United States you can have a bachelor's degree in May and I have a Ph.D. and you may still be unemployed, in other words, well trained but poorly educated, so programs like the Minister of Archons self-help programs see the contradiction of the United States condemning Louis Farrakhan to condemn the Blacks.

Panthers who are strengthening the self-help connectivities they need to create income and jobs in the black community we earn two hundred and eight billiondollars but we spend ninety-three percent of our money elsewhere what you spend your money is what you spend on your job cut. I wanted to make the point in line with what the gentleman just said and that is that education, frankly, is overrated in terms of what it will do for black blacks in America; It's simply a tool and the bottom line is the economics involved, as Louis says. Farrakhan pointed out why we can't at least make our own toilet paper, our own soap, and our own toothpaste and not depend on the dominant culture for our basic needs.

I was also told to respond to how I felt, for example, when I was stopped by an Albany police officer walking down the street at four in the morning in my tracksuit and tennis shoes and returning home because He didn't know me. The first thing he did was approach me and ask me. for my ID, well, I don't have ID on my track suit when I gave him my name, I gave him my pen name because I'm a poet and my pen name is Allen. Philip Dekker was driving when he couldn't get on. with anything on the computer he was very angry now he got angry at me simply because he couldn't find anything on the computer that should have indicated that I was not in any trouble or had not been in any trouble but the fact of the matter is that I was very outraged by this incident and I think the fact that a black man without a shirt and tie is more oppressed than other people is one of the signs of racism in this country.

Well, we'll be back in a moment Carolyn, yes, no doubt. I just wonder why black men sometimes choose white women instead of black ones. I do not get it. I think that's very easily answered by the fact that we still live in a world where we base images or beauty off of Europeans. In other words, the United States defines beauty as long hair, light skin, and blue eyes. Haven't they told you how ugly it is? There are still people even in this audience who use terms like good hair, if you know what area is good, you have to do it. know the bad areas, if you know what pretty eyes are, you have to know what ugly eyes are, that's dialectical, once you know it, you are the map, you know.

What's not good, you know, it's amazing the racism when I was in Florida. I meet Europeans who go out of their way to run to Florida to get tanned and look like us and then I find us running all the cream to try to look like them. Not being black women, not even in this audience, they can't swim, I'm afraid that's going to come back, come back to spite, what are you afraid of, going back to black men walking down the street in the middle of the night, anyone walking down the street in the middle of the night.

Late night you will be stopped by a police officer because it is not a common time to go out and if someone was walking down the street in your neighborhood at 3:00 in the morning, wouldn't you wonder what they were doing, no matter what color out? This is right, star, one thing I was going to put there and I said, I don't believe it because you were black and if you say the officer had an attitude, it could have been a question that you were giving a fake ID. There is some other reason, not just because of their color, but they first learned that the New York Transit Authority was targeting Hispanic and black men for arrest when they were not guilty of crimes.

It's a big case in New York right now. It happens all the time that black man started, you know, he mentions that there seems to be tension between black men and white men in this country. I once proposed that black men and white men should have a conference like the women did in Houston, maybe they could do it. because I know that every time I leave the house I'm going to have some kind of problem with someone, you know, I'll give you a concrete example of an anecdote instead of a theory, an anecdote, something happened to me, I've been exchanging In this cafe in Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley for about 15 years, people were very polite to me.

I walked in there with another black person, a black man, and I thought they were going to call the riot squad or something. Men are a mob, I guess that goes back to slavery, so I think there is some hostility and conflict between black men and men of other backgrounds in this country and I think it should be resolved peacefully so that we can avoid some of these conflicts and I think, going back to education, he mentioned Joe Clark and his methods and everything. I think something is wrong with this curriculum too, we have people doing ignorant things because they haven't become familiar with other cultures through the education system.

If I were Jimmy, the settlement would sue my high school, sue every college I went to for not being familiar with black people in this country. Now we have a case here at Stanford where Hispanic Asian American Apple students are just trying to get Stanford to do a terrestrial course, an ethnic course, a required course, okay, just one, don't change the curriculum, no make a curriculum in a multicultural curriculum so that we can learn about Hispanics and other people in this country, but only one and the resistance is Coming from the teachers there, I'm going to remind the teachers of Nazi Germany that They knew Schubert, Bach and Beethoven, but they were the ones who led to the Holocaust, who encouraged Salah and, generally, in his conferences with the Heil Hitler star, what I wanted to say is that I don't agree I agree with the lady saying that because you are not well because you leave after four in the morning.

I live in them they hate that people are running all the time. I see someone getting pulled over at five in the morning at four in the morning in Haight Ashbury, but that's because it's a predominantly white neighborhood and so the way I look at it, I don't think I thought about it. and you know it doesn't make any difference when it's a predominantly white neighborhood and white people are jogging, but if a brother was out there, they'd watch him and look at him. I'm sorry to disagree with you but I would be stopped this morning at 5:30 walking my dog ​​by a cop who just wanted to know why I was out at that time as if women are the safest group in this country.

I mean, you know just statistically if you want to go back to theory if you're white. woman, your chances of being murdered are one and 300 something, the white man is someone and 200 something if you're a black woman, it's one in eight 181 if you were a black man, it's one in 25, okay, so everything we hear in the media is protecting European American women, Jeff Salmon, when they are the safest people, the safest group in this country, and I see the police and all these other night bums or whatever these vassals and warriors protect, all your energy is directed towards protecting the safest group in In this country, I think we get into this hysteria about race partly because of the media and I don't want to bring that up because I'm on TV, I'm on your TV show today, okay, Bryant Gumbel said this is the most.

It's an important way to inform people, educate people in the country and I think the media has become more responsible every time I watch the 6 o'clock news. I shudder, what do we do now? The women in this audience that we weren't talking about are white people. They never arrest white people they never get detained or now look, that is an absolute statement, you have white people in jail, we mean, as a statistical average, that black people are arrested more frequently according to our number that we represent in society, which is only about 11 percent, you know what? to change is to change everything institutional since we are not going to change the entire system to do anything other than procrastinate, but what I am trying to say is that we have to start movements like the civil rights movement and continue like the Black Panther Party .

The Republic of New Africa has tenure movements like the Nation of Islam because it needs all of those groups, all of those movements to start making a dent in the kind of twisted mentality that white people have in this country. Why didn't beans start in the upper class? to the middle class because the sand has a comment here about the situation of black oppression a comment in a way my feeling is that as a black and muscular woman it is my responsibility since what I see myself is the first teacher of a nation that I consider myself being part of the black nation and how my responsibility as a mother is to teach my son the reality and the truth of the world as it exists not only my son but any child that comes into my environment if I see a child walking the street in this rain and He has his coat on his shoulder, so you should put your coat on your back.

Okay, if I see a child disrespecting an adult, it doesn't have to be my child, but I will correct them and that is our responsibility. responsibility as black women and women in general we are the first teachers of our children who become our niche Joey, there are white men in the audience and their black men in the audience and we haven't heard anything from the white man, how are you? How do you feel about the black man Ross, how do you feel about that? That you thought? I guess I would say I've met some white men that I haven't cared about and some black men that I haven't cared about.

I mean, I don't really care about them. I was telling someone a story before we went on the air and it was back in 1968 and I lived in Campbell California and the guy below us was carrying his new baby in his arms and I looked over the ice railing and congratulations, I mean, you're now I'm a father and he said yes, he said the first thing I'm going to teach this kid is the difference between black and white and I walked in and I said to my wife, I said whoa, I mean, that scared me, that really It bothered me as a white man that another white man would say he'll teach you the difference, that's the whole problem we have in this country.

Ann mentioned that she was stopped at 5:00 a.m. m. I agree with her brother who said the police officer was probably trying to protect her. I didn't finish my story, the police officer who stopped me when he couldn't get a reading on the computer told me that he would keep me there until something came up and I gave him a different name. I explained to him that my plume name has been around for over 20 years. I turned my back on him and walked away while he pulled out his revolver and his officer's brother told him not to shoot him, it's not worth it and I didn't turn around so he could have done it. gone anyway he wasn't trying to protect me but he was trying to protect Dan I think I think I'm a lightning bolt I think enlightening white men like you should go back and try to educate some of the other guys, okay, cause you already know.

I'm not pointing at you as part of the problem, your ancestors are probably in Europe paying so much because of some of the slaves, that's possible, it's okay because there were white ethnic people who came here as slaves as indentured servants and who They restricted an activity in the same way. blacks were, but I think when you look at the problems in this country, the institutions, for example, it's a coincidence that maybe white men are in charge of those institutions, white men are less likely to employ minorities of women, okay, white men are the ones committing incest, okay, that's one thing I lean towards the color purple because they had these black men doing all this kind of stuff when the incidence is very low and of the african

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ns clearly black men commit incest, if you want to talk about rapist, you have to go back to talking about white foods, you know, so I like that they need to be educated, invite me like they should come back, try to educate, we have about a minute and a half, Rochelle , okay, I would like to direct this question to Huey Newton and mr. .

Carson, I don't see how his salary compares to Dr. Martin Luther King, because of the path he took, he took his actions wrong, he didn't do it the right way, okay, a vacation for this man, that's funny, okay, because he went wrong on his path, okay, we got it, we got 45 seconds, okay, my name is Carlton. Carlton we know well, first of all, first of all, dr. King was a great man and his greatness was rooted in prayer and Huey Newton was a great man, his greatness was rooted in what dr. King was praying for manhood, okay Stacy, well I see some black men, it's their attitude like you have the black panthers and you're in your group and you feel like you feel strong, but then we have to separate you still and then we're going to have a group and then you're going to have another group and that's what separates us, we don't have to separate when we're already separated, but let me say this about dr.

Martin Luther King Dr. dr. Martin Luther King was excluded from the n-double a-c-p because he was too radical and before that, uh dr. WB Dubois, who started out at SS Ypres, was expelled because he was a communist and then returned to Africa and died in Ghana. I think I respect dr. Martin Luther King and all areas, the n-double-a-cp, for example, is a legal area, the Southern Leadership Council was an action area.I think I do believe that the eye problem is so big and even more than the dr is needed. Martin Luther King, it takes more than Mathematica, more than QE Newton to solve this problem, so we like to know how this young woman would contribute to King or his teaching today.

Thank you all for bringing us along and I'll be back after this, stay tuned.