Adam Curry's Analysis on US TikTok Ban and Twitter's FBI Links

The Joe Rogan Experience How long did it take before Tic Tock spread? Let me tell you what's going on with Tic Toc. I have a very opinionated explanation for what's going on with Tic Tock. Well, Tic Tock was eating Silicon Valley's lunch, they were, they were. taking all the advertising money from Instagram from Twitter from Google I would say Google and Instagram and Facebook just kill it Hitting it out of the park so look who says oh it's a China and they're tracking everything and it's a communist Party guy Facebook tracks you Google tracks you, everyone tracks you everywhere, but suddenly Tick Tock is a problem, no it's because they're having lunch and instead of competing because you know they've tried, it seems like no one can do it. create the tick tock algorithm and what they have there is what people want, the quick hits, the songs, etc., so they decided to pressure the politicians and, uh, and they came up with this scam, so it's Holly, It's Marco Rubio, oh no, this. it's China no it's because Silicon Valley couldn't compete with them that's what's happening interesting oh yeah that's interesting just look I know a lot about the advertising business because you know I ran companies that were in that place, so everyone was buy Tick Tock no, and you know when you have a big company like Facebook or Google that is tied to the government, you know how many times they have gone to DC to explain what they are doing and you know that everything is controlled, that's The only way they have to compete is to get these guys out of here and fortunately even the American companies that run it are China so now I'm not a fan of China but this is a scam. tearing them down to get rid of the competition is real, it's very sad, that's interesting because they're not tearing them down yet up there, oh they'll think about it, oh yeah, actually, oh yeah, you know it's banned at UT, you can't. you can't have ticking on your phone, but at the same time there is a real problem with the terms of service.

At the same time, I see what you're saying and I see why they would want to do that, but they have extraordinarily invasive software how is it no different than any other app you have on your phone, I disagree, no, so you think that all the other Apps can track your keystrokes on other computers, yes, computers are not even connected to that, yes, yes, oh yes, but interesting, interesting. So why doesn't Apple start it? Because people use it. If Apple doesn't have Tick Tock, people will actually give up their iPhones. They're not going to start it now.

What did Apple do if you remember they changed some things? in the way that they allow apps to do and that took away about 10 billion dollars from Facebook's revenue, yeah, because they couldn't, they couldn't sell the information that way anymore, right, and they were angry and Tick Tock is less. interested in selling your information they are getting the money from advertising so people are just continuous advertising money everything is a big ad everything is an ad yeah if you're going to like Zuckerberg like you can't use an iPhone, huh? I mean, I mean, if Apple did that to their company and then made it so that they lost so much money and ad revenue by changing something, well, not advertising, they were basically selling your information, yeah, and creating profiles, and all they do it.

I mean, that's why I have Graphene OS. You know, yeah, I've had this phone for a while, just no, no, this one is different than the one you had before. You had an old iPhone, no, no. no, and then you went to a pixel, so we basically ripped out all the Google stuff and this is the six I had, the four, it was time to update, you know, this screen was cracking, it's falling apart, and yeah , like if you are connected to a network you are still there yes, you still know where you are yes, but the applications cannot spy on me.

I know what apps do. Can. They are running a Sandbox, so nothing comes in or goes out unless I give it. That permission is Graphene OS, yeah yeah, there are no instructions on agendaphone.com on how to do it, so you think most apps just don't tell you the truth about what they are allowed to do with the terms and conditions . People with permission don't care, but is it written there and no one pays attention to it or are they just not putting that stuff there because what I'm saying is that at least it says tick? terms like what's scandalous, but part of it is like you monitor your keystrokes and you have access to your microphones and things like that, yeah, everyone has it, everyone has it, why wouldn't they?

But it was also one of the points of concern for some people was that it was tied to computers that aren't even loaded with Tick Tock, like they weren't even connected. Everything is tracked. We are there. There is only one telephone company. It's the US government. They have everything. Everything is recorded. everything you put on a network anywhere goes into Utah, they have big data centers, you know, they're all cooled down under Waters, all kinds of high tech and when they need to find out what Joe Rogan is doing, we're going to pull. top Rogan, did you text Curry on Signal what day he was?

It just appears, that sign appears. I mean, encryption is a problem that you know is a problem for the government, um uh, but again, you know how many. companies just give up on products that Apple makes maybe 30,000 a month or something. I mean, you know what you need, we'll give it to you, they pay for it, the FBI pays, we know from the Twitter archives, you know it's like, hey, we. I need information on this account, okay, it's five thousand dollars and well, no problem, we'll just pay. They are making up these numbers, there were millions of dollars that they paid Twitter just for providing account information.

I think Twitter never. However, really collected, is it true? I'm pretty sure it's true. Facebook certainly did it and Google certainly does it and they publish those numbers, they publish the numbers I don't know where, but I think that was part of that narrative. because you know there was a giant bill that the FBI owed Twitter, it was like three million dollars, yeah, apparently they never paid, find out if that's true, well, they're coaches, what the hell, yeah, FBI, you bastards? USA Today, oh, here we go, USA Today, well, let's see what we have. No, this is the correct message.

You want to know what USA Today is. Two separate events. Well, first, documents released by Twitter's new owner, Elon Musk, showed that the FBI flagged Twitter. accounts the agency believes violated Twitter's terms of service Second, another document shows the FBI paid Twitter $3.4 million for Twitter's processing of information requests that the FBI made through a law of communications stored the 3.4 million are not related to the accounts flagged by the FBI yes, that is not related, but also as if we were giving them a lot of money, it is not related, yes, but they really paid the money, that was the ask.

Well, I think you can see this by paying for account information, because the Silicon Valley company says, "Well, we're not going." to do this work for free you have to pay we have to put people right so that's normal but if they didn't pay for it that's it they're going to give it to Elon how does that work? I did, but I don't fall into the bucket, maybe someone misreported that and I just read it. I think what we're seeing with Twitter is that it wasn't a very profitable scam company, you know, it worked. It kinda takes a lunatic to spend 44 billion dollars to get a not very profitable company to be able to let people talk well I think he's doing more, I think he is and I'm not sure, I heard the opposite.

Someone sent me the clip of you and him about four years ago talking about Ai and how it's going to take over the world and how he tried to stop it and now he seems to be all in, but I think that's the x of it. com, which is what he wanted PayPal to be and that didn't turn out the way he wanted and he literally said, I want it to be like WeChat. I mean, he said I want to be your bank. I want to be your social network. app you use super app, he calls it super app, that's what he's doing and of course with that, once you've authenticated everyone with a real name, you don't need trust or security, you know that if someone does something bad, that person is right and We can send the feds to them or the feds can go themselves or you know you can have a lawyer sue you if you say something defamatory, yes, but it will be what you use in China for everything and that he said that . are his words and um, so it's up to them to keep as many people on the platform by just letting it open, you know, it's beautiful to see, um, I don't know if he went a little overboard. the cost, it's costing him a lot, you know, it's costing him the value and value of Tesla stock and he seems to be okay with that, which is great, we'll see, I mean, it's really crazy. break to do that to create the WeChat of America or the rest of the world, but then I see Starlink, which to me was, I mean, Starlink was such an amazing invention.

I have it at home like you put this plate on the ground and I got the internet and it's fast and it's wonderful, but of course where does the real money come from now? It's a military system that I think was probably the plan all along. I mean, it's great to give this to consumers for 110 a month. um but when you have the army and that came out of Ukraine, you know how he said, hey, you should pay me for this and they said no, you should do this just because you're a good guy and you know after a while he like you know, I'm moving satellites, you should probably pay me to do this as a service and I forget what it's called but now it's an actual government military service that is used in the field, it's a little strange that a country I can say they should just connect us which was the US government saying that the US government was saying this is what I found out about it, okay here goes, a former Facebook security executive called Elon Musk and claimed that the F.B.I. pay.

Twitter to moderate false content Alex Stamos and this is what we were talking about before um which was you can't like to say that's exactly why they did it uh that's not what I said no no no I'm not telling you Is this comment came after journalist Michael Schellenberger shared a redacted screenshot of a 2021 email showing Twitter had collected more than $3.4 million from a reimbursement program for time spent processing FBI requests that were just requests. of information, were they not requests for a change of platform? I totally agree. I agree with that too, but I could also recognize that if there is a deal where compensation is paid to your company to tune $3.4 million, it is a significant commercial transaction, but it was because, you know, dozens of thousands of accounts that had the information had to be collected and turned over to the FBI completely separate from the politicians who say you should look at these guys, you know they are against your own terms and services, against what Fauci says, take them down , mark them deeply, you know? uh, don't amplify them, that's the egregious part that has nothing to do with the FBI, so I'm fine, if you look, I think we talked about this in 2000, maybe 2010 or 12.

Mark Zuckerberg was the Man of the Year and he was on the cover of Time magazine and if you read that article don't let that happen, okay, if you read that article in the middle of this interview, Robert Mueller, the director of the FBI rears his head, hey, he just It happened to me to be in the building I just wanted to say hello to everyone and even the journalist who wrote the article for This Time magazine says that it was the strangest thing I have ever seen in my life the FBI was already in these companies from the beginning they were already there to the collection is a Beautiful system, people post pictures, you know, there's your location and since I'm here, you know it's beautiful, why wouldn't you want that as an intelligence organization?

But they were back then and Robert Mueller, who must have been 2012 because they extended it. for a couple against the Constitution, which is really funny because it's only supposed to be there for 10 years after you know, the FBI has a varied history and a very strong law was implemented. No FBI director can be FBI director for more than 10 years. except Robert Mueller stayed two more years for some reason because when Obama came, we need this guy and he was literally in faith in the Facebook building, oh, he happened to be in the FBI director's building, come on. that was what you know so they've been there for a long time that's weird um thank you so much Jamie oh Dynamite this is great Joe it's so fun talking to you bro.

I'm fine, we shouldn't clarify what that actually is. Although he said one of the interesting things, he said, "This is a mastodon thread." This guy Stamos, who left Facebook in 2018 to lecture at Stanford, explained that law enforcement has the ability to store communications from companies like Twitter under 18 USC. 273 D this infamous order d has to be signed by a judge. He said companies candemand a refund for the request, which is what Twitter did. Oh no, oh no, they almost caught us. She said companies can demand a refund. However, for the request, which is what Twitter did before 2019, as shown in the screenshot of the email, the company decided not to do it, so it decided not to receive the refund before 2019.

So during a time they did it for free, they did it. it gets expensive Google has always charged them for it you know I think Apple was charging and they posted those numbers it's just not that strange it's all part of the distraction to keep us guessing and whatever you do keep posting selfies we need that you do it. keep posting selfies keep telling us what you're doing