2020 Nissan 370Z NISMO vs Toyota 86 TRD // When The Recipe Works

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2020

2020

Nissan

370z

yes, believe it or not, this is a 2020 Nissan

370z

Nismo, it's one of a dying breed . of naturally aspirated sports cars Nissan hasn't really changed this car much, but maybe that's beneficial for it because it's not often anymore to see purpose-built sports cars like this Nismo Edition, which gets a power boost, so which is 3.7 liters. V6 makes 350 horsepower and 276 pound-feet of torque and makes peak horsepower at 7,400 rpm, meaning you can knock on the redline door

when

ever you want to see what it can do.

It also helps that this Nismo edition. you get shocks, springs, and the same specific suspension tuning, you also get different wheels and tires, among other things, we'll go over that in a minute, but the most important thing is that it's very expensive, it starts at forty-eight thousand nine hundred ninety-one. eight Canadians, which is ten thousand dollars. more than the $38,000 eight-six, but we wanted to test the top trims of two of the last remaining rear-drive sports cars. The question is whether it is worth it because that eight-six is ​​very tempting, as James will now explain. the Toyota 86 TRD SC Edition, which is awesome because that means you get more power than normal, there's no extra power, oh okay, this is the Toyota 86 TRD se Edition coming back with the classic 205 four-cylinder boxer horsepower that everyone loves and looks different with a new rear bumper, a TRD performance exhaust, and a three-piece front splitter and trunk lip spoiler combo that's rated to produce a ton of real downforce and The car's drag effects are fine, so it's just cosmetic, but it's a Special Edition, so it's limited to one thousand four hundred and eighteen copies, it only comes in raven black and with a manual transmission, it costs 5,000 Canadian dollars and just under four thousand US dollars more than the model below and features Michelin Pilot Sport fours high-performance tires. on new 18-inch wheels, behind them are Sachs shock absorbers and Brembo brakes that are also available on the BRZ TS.

Going sideways isn't fast and this TRD setup is made for speed and grip, so let's see what it's like, you know what to do. Subscribe, hit the bell, you will watch our videos as soon as they come out too for more cool stuff. Instagram on the throttle box, well the 370z Nismo 350 horsepower v6 is fast, it's really fast, this is an analog sports car, it's an analog sports car in a way that we just don't understand anymore and for that reason. I love driving it, so I owe 286 gr DFC. Now I can only have a four-pot here and he has six, and I'm going to start with that because the biggest problem that people have with this car is that it doesn't have enough power and

when

you drive it and take corners like that, you realize that actually that's not its biggest problem, its biggest problem is the torque tip that it has in the middle, which it actually shows you on a gauge, which is a little embarrassing that it shows you so horrible. conversation tip between it was three and five thousand rpm and you really feel it if it wasn't for that, and you can eliminate that with headers and a melody.

I don't think this needs more speed, it's the same as a Miata. It's a slow, fast car and I took it on the track. I took it later on the track. These cars stand out. Then they were meant to take curves. In fact, when driving this on the road you get frustrated because all you want to do is turn it. It produces its 350 horsepower near the top of the rev range. This is a completely naturally aspirated power pack, which means you have to really rev it to get that power and that's something we don't have to do anymore with turbochargers and all that, but listen, and there's my power change and drive, I love it, I love this engine, it's kind of mountain, that part of it doesn't get old, you don't have to load this car to have a lot of it was fun, I actually had a piece in 13 or BRZ as the people say Americans and I didn't want it at all and I loved it and one of my favorite things about the BRZ and the eight-six is ​​the ability to just lose the rear end whenever you want, you know, not on public roads of course, don't worry.

You'd scroll on public roads the same way you wouldn't download a movie, but if you wanted to, you could always break the rear end pretty easily on this TRD SE model. It's fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport four-wheel tires and as good as they are on the track, it's much harder to lose the rear end on these tyres, which takes away some of the fun, but again it's better for racing times. turn, yes, you can put the power. down look these cars are great in these corners you don't lose the rear but I guess that's the other positive side of these tires you just stay on the road really good transmissions the shifts are really quick and the reds They fall very quickly. between gears this thing looks up from your flip phone and says it hangs up, the clutch feel is good and it also has an automatic rev matching feature which

works

great obviously but I turned it off and it's very easy to match the repetitions. a driver's car now this is the six speed manual today you can get this in a car.

I've always had the philosophy that if the car's power is low you're going to get a lot more out of it with the manual gearbox, so it's surprisingly easy to live with the clutch pedal in this one, even so the clutch pedal In this one it is very light and has a spring that many people choose to remove so that there is more filling of the clutch. I don't really care very quickly my foot learns where the bite point is so the fact is light considering I sometimes drive home in Toronto traffic. Actually, I don't care at all.

Well let's talk about the chassis, this is the Nismo, it has a higher spring rate. It has stiffer sway bars, different shocks and the car feels very, very, very flat. We're going to throw it into a corner right here, yeah, it also has a viscous limited slip differential which you can't get on the base ride, but yeah. in the intermediate trims, it doesn't really do what a Torsen does in the same way, but it's obviously still a gap in the rear, which means it feels like a sports car, but since it's the new smell, it becomes a stickier tire.

Well, it takes a bit of the fun out of it, you can't separate the rear when pulling away in first gear very easily. Now let's lift the TRD package, we get the TRD exhaust, which I'm not very happy with, it sounds great under acceleration. I kind of got booed when slowing down now that I'm the TRD, this one is also equipped with Brembo brakes and yes they are a little sharper than the stock brakes once they are warm, the steering is hydraulic and doesn't feel old school, It just feels good, it steers well, the front end is very direct, so there are two main things you need to know about this car.

The chassis is so communicative that it feels alive and it's not like puncturing it with a second explosion. tonight it feels lively, it feels great, it makes for a pretty tough ride around town especially with these 18 inch wheels, the TRD spec feels very harsh like it did when I had this car and even on this one I find myself apologizing to my passenger , especially living in downtown Toronto, so keep that in mind and even though this address is electronic, it feels accurate, it feels great. I'd be surprised if the power steering on that 370 feels much better than this one, on top of all that it has a low center of gravity. you feel low to the ground and if there's a control that comes with that and a lightness, it's such a valuable thing that it doesn't feel like you have a center of gravity as low as that and I'm sure James has talked at length about how much who loves a low center of gravity is this thing right now the only thing I care about is the low center of gravity this doesn't really have that but I'm comparing it to an eight-six compared to anything else It feels like a sports car really stiff.

I'd say this car is set up for the track as is, but I think the answer is probably to buy one with a lower trim and tune it yourself, unless you really want the Nismo badges, they're cool. These seats are incredibly comfortable. Although I will say that in this edition they seem a little cheap at the time. I don't know what they've done. The Alcantara feels cheaper on this one and there is a bit of wear on the seat. already and I've only done 1500 kilometers driving this again years later just confirms that young James wasn't that stupid because this is a great car at the moment this seems absolutely fantastic to me, it really is, it's old in a Well, it's necessary update it, yes and no, we'll talk about that in a minute, but from a driving perspective, I hope that if we get a new version of this car, it doesn't lose some of the analog feel that it has. and I almost guarantee it won't be a naturally aspirated V6, which is a shame when Wilson enters the picture.

I heard I'm jelly. I don't have, I'm not because I have two more cylinders, this one is lined up in a V. Alright, style, okay, that gets interesting. Can I talk about your divider? I'd rather you did not. I'm going to do it correctly. I'm not going to listen to you. Why does it stand out so much? It is much further than necessary. Yes, I prefer. the Subaru also looks like it's a body kit, yeah what are they doing? They are looking like the tuner looking nameplate, which looks pretty cool, that's good. I guess what a nice black paint this is, the TRD, it comes only in this. color yes and it comes with TRD stickers that are not on this well, fortunately yes, it makes it look like a Kodak camera.

I don't like them, people have removed them a lot, so it's okay, oh yeah, I'm not alone. The wheels are different. These are new but I don't like them okay and the aftermarket options for these cars are amazing like the raised wills yeah with someone and the tires are different. I think these tires, yes, these are Michelin sports pilots. They're not stockelman which are very sticky but not good for sliding on the right, it's better for the track and this is the TRD so it comes with those, I guess it's okay, also bigger brakes. I guess so, other than that it's nice, I mean the rear also has some TRD stuff going on and it has what looks like a copy of the Valente taillights which look cool, yeah they are absolutely Valente style, yeah and then TRD on the rear isn't as dramatic as I want it to be and then these new exhaust tips.

There it is good, they look better, I wish they sounded better, but I talked about it in the car, what do you think? I think 2010 came to say hello, basically, exactly, it's actually red, although that's okay, the things I like, I just like the overall look. shape, I think it looks like a sports car, that's good, it hasn't really changed much and well, this is more correct, so we have something extra. I will say that they follow the

recipe

back then, like the profile looks good, but these look very dated now, the silver, well, the shape of the horse, honestly, it's okay, there are things they did well, things they didn't do well, I mean, bows have some extra arrows and stuff, but the most important thing is that Nismo grabs you. these fluid-upgraded tires, wheels, brakes, and brake lines, what's actually kind of important is, as important as the decal on the wing, this doesn't even come close to being called a decal, okay?

It's not, it's a sticker, yes, you can see it. like I used to put it in my lunchbox, not on the rearview mirror. I think they both look great. They are both sports cars. Both have good road presence. This looks like the newest accent and it is new. I prefer this look. I'll be honest, but because of that interior divider, yeah, what good is this for chips and salad dressing? It comes every eight six, okay, yeah, this is Alcantara, which is good, we'll lower the pads here, we have this here. Did you know? These are all the things that people used to pay to add to their cars after ticking, they're just talking about the door being nice as leather here and okay there are two things I don't like and they're both from the upgrade on the steering wheel even though it is utilitarian with the buttons and looks busier, I agree, yes, and since we are in the TRD, this actually has red eyes.

I don't mind a new marker, this is my nasty one, so yeah. it's too much and also the way the digital display lines up behind yeah okay Naida looks great there's simplicity there are things that are simple in this car that I love okay and that I think that's going to help the age because everyone this is a button it's simple you were hours minutes we live on the border maybe we're saying for alien and fake a click yes it's okay and this is funny we don't even need to get into this it was much worse in the generation I already knew , this is much better now, but still nothing said no, Apple calls Android unacceptable,a horrible word for a lot of people to change this for something that is Apple's call base, yes they should, yes, otherwise the rear seats are no different than your generation, this is basically the same thing, but This has back seats, that doesn't, yeah, we should go clean, trigger that now yeah, let's do it right, Jesus, if they're really sick, I gathered that light weight and I don't really love them, they're a little tight.

To me, they look really cool, although they look cool and say Nismo and Recaro, which is fine, so honestly there's a lot of extra stuff here, although overall this is very, very dated, considering the part that is called this shift knob is Sol and absurd. Its drivetrain is fantastic and feels great, but there's some chrome here, something someone brightens up a little bit. They look exactly the same as my mom's 2011 370, yes, because it is the same. Okay, I'll go over the things that I really like, the things that are going to age very well, and what makes this what it is.

This tactic is fantastic, it's big, it's obvious. I love the gauge cluster, so I almost just said the word think, which would almost make sense in a way, yeah, but no, it doesn't, it's just nice, it tells me everything you need to know, it's right there . Alcantara wheel that I would not choose. personally and the new marker to find out that it's not Stephanie Mall could be done well, yeah, it's good that one says yes, someone got drunk, woman, wow, also that these are these measuring capsules that are really cool, true, we have the oil temperature at the battery voltage. and a watch that you would replace with something more useful.

It would put a little pressure. I don't do it very well. It is easy. It is easy. It is designed for performance. You're not going to cry. Make menus to change things up. No. Well, sorry, no, not for similar performance or anything, if the only thing I can really turn on and off is the traction control button here and the automatic rev matching, I hold it down for a second and it turns it on and off, which is really nice now this entertainment is the room here is fine. I still think this is great. I think though it's not really different from when it came out.

I think this is a great interior and it feels sporty. I'll do it in my mind when it arrived I agree yeah, yeah, okay, cool, don't drive. I'm going to drive this, yeah, okay, on the three seventeen. Wow, how it sounded before. What is that sound? It sounds like supercharged. What an incredible sound in the cabin. No. I know why I forgot, it sounds like that, maybe it's the news that sounds amazing in the cabin, okay, before we go, this is how the pedal dance goes. I want everything to go well for Toyota 86 with much less power compared to the 22 pounder. in value, yes, that torque drop, the whole clutch is really very light.

I can't believe how different they feel right away. Oh yeah, can you hear that's the sound of me going to jail? This is a lot more fun in a straight line than the 86. but the eight-six takes it in the corners, well, steering, yes, it's better hydraulic, it feels a little better, I'm not going to lie and unfortunately it's a lot better So the answer, this is the TRD, so obviously we have the additional things that James talked about. oh, you have a pin to get something out of it. The steering is very light for the chassis.

These are so good that their rigid center of gravity is low. Honestly, this is a vehicle here held back by its engine and I've reviewed a lot of these and I've never said that out loud before. I've always been one to say this car feels like it's a boost car but after being in the 370 with so much power 3 2 video horsepower naturally aspirated v6 this feels so funky Cal feels heavy in there compared to the '86, but the first great water car, the eight-six and the Piazza, need a six-cylinder now, when I get out, this Thomas heard me drive by in '86 and told me the eight-six with that TRD exhaust It sounds excellent from the outside, which is interesting, this sounds worse from the outside apparently that's how it feels, while on the inside, I would say it lacks some comfort. the seats are much better, it feels like 10 grand more of the car, that engine feels much more, much more exciting, okay, the seats are more comfortable in this and it overcomes the higher center of gravity and weight and offers more, yes, the price is high, the only thing this has going for it is the interior space, some comfort things, a lower center of gravity, better overall chassis, these calls are unique, everyone will drive their crude and their rarity now.

I'm very glad they both exist. Incredible, what an excellent used proposal. The cars are okay, that's a bit cheeky, but really these cars haven't changed much and if you want to buy a new one for that sweet warranty, you won't be disappointed either. Thomas and I chatted about this for a week. It really worked and our bottom line was to put the v6 from the 370 in the '86 and otherwise you have essentially a perfect analog sports car. I think my choice would be the eight-six with some performance modifications starting at least with an elimination of the torque drop and Thomas found himself inclined. towards 370 thanks for looking