Nissan 370Z Nismo | Going Away Party

the

nissan

370z

nismo

, this car has been around for 11 years at this point and with the 400z on the way we thought it was a good time to put this car out to pasture, celebrate its 11 years of existence, explain to you what it's like to drive today some of the engineering that was used and talk about some of its shortcomings, so enjoy the video inside the

370z

nismo

. Now let's talk about what sets it apart from a lesser z car on the inside. The first thing to mention is These recaro seats look great, they are a mix of leather and alcantara and compared to the base z seats they are much more comfortable and much more supportive, plus they can only be adjusted manually, they cannot be adjusted.

They do not go up or down, however, the bottom of the seats does. The seat tilt and backrest also tilt, the manual track gives you plenty of legroom for taller drivers, and this cabin, like the regular z, still has a reasonable amount of headroom that you should be able to fit if He is less than six feet tall. two, the rest of this cabin has also changed a bit, you get alcantara door cards with red contrast stitching and the steering wheel is now a mix of leather and alcantara with a red leather center strip and, as on most cars, if you use this every day.

A single day, all the cantoras don't wear well after about 20 or 30k miles, you'll feel like you're squishing oreos on someone's furry back, they're horrible that way, the rest of this cabin is one of the bargains z more upscale, meaning you have navigation, a rearview camera, and the Bose audio system are standard. The last two things I want to talk about before we head to the shop are some of the interior design quality issues in the infotainment system. First, the infotainment system. All controls are physical, which is usually the case. good thing though the head unit is very cumbersome to use however the HVAC controls fortunately are still physical the audio system in this car is average it is a Bose system it really sounds old there is a bit of distortion and because the background noise is high when you're at highway speeds it's not the best in the world however no one is buying a z for the audio system and I admit that so with that let's go to the store below the 370 nismo 2020, this is the farewell

party

, yes, fortunately.

Nissan is finally revamping this car after almost 11 years, maybe revamping it, it's a prototype, yes that's right and with Nissan's recent financial problems it may never exist but what we have here is an old car with something of old car charm, so this is the toughest 370z and The existence, yes, but saying this is a track car and trying to make it a track car is nonsense since I'm about to appear in the driving segment and a little bit during our workshop segment, so let's talk about what we have. here on the front marking, yes it looks like you have something that Nissan has normally done on many of their cars, you have a lot of aluminum, but this is extremely rare for cars of this old aluminum subframe or old double wishbone as you mentioned and you have big brakes, brumbo, no, you have here bonuses, sorry, and you also have nismo pads or higher friction pads, you have higher roll stiffness, the shocks and spring rates are 40 stiffer in the front and more than 140 percent stiffer in the rear, so when you put all that together and then put on these snow tires, you get maximum lateral grip, but when you're on real tires, this thing has a ton of grip, it's completely competent if you're driving inside. of its limits and it has an old school, at least the old school for the modern steering rack in the front, it is hydraulic, yes, and you can also see that the hydraulic line is working, in fact, you can see the greatest part of the underbody because it predates any underbody cover and all the things that What we're doing in modern cars, yeah, so let's go to the rear brand.

Sounds good. We have migrated to the rear half of the nismo 370 connector. What do we have? Oh boy we have an HKS exhaust if you want to win this is what allows you to win it gives you a horsepower advantage along with the unique engine tuning over the regular 370z this makes 350 horsepower and sounds like the worst vacuum cleaner in the world. I don't agree with you at all, but I mean it sounds like a Japanese tractor. It's not a sweet tone you know quality I admit Nissan has a unique tone it doesn't bother me I'd rather have this than a piece of four cylinder stack that sounds like you're blowing your mouth through a straw I don't disagree with you but you compare this to the v8 offerings from the american competition, you have a big problem, no one buys v8 anymore, that's irrelevant, is it because of our lord and savior elon musk, yes he's

going

to do everything?

For what it's worth, we're not even

going

to talk about exhaust pipes unless it's to run speakers through them to make the fake engine noise perfect. Well, let's talk about some of the other things in the back. We have aluminum double wishbone rear suspension. and another Yamaha side shock over here, yes front and rear side shocks are becoming more common in the Japanese community, we see them on Lexus products of their f-sport suvs that they have added, I think the ct-300 such Maybe he even had one with a back door. Oh wow, the LC just got one, so part of the lateral shock absorber's job is to take the stiffness and create some sort of isolation under lateral loading and soften it.

You can adjust them as stiffeners to create preload on the chassis, but most of these types of shock absorbers serve to reduce lateral vibration and shock, so you can adjust the chassis to be stiffer even if the driver doesn't feel it as much, no. makes sense in a car like this, which is supposed to be an upscale sports car, but in reality, it does most people's daily duty, so the last thing to mention, other than the fuel pumps , it's the limited slip differentials on these cars if you get a sport or a nismo and I think it's an optional package on the touring that you can get. a vlsd which is a viscous limited slip differential and they are famous for their terrible quality on these 370z.

They are an element that cannot be repaired. The viscous clutch contains fluid that cannot be repaired. OK, you can drain the differential fluid, but what does it actually do? this job fails all the time and once you start putting too much heat on it it becomes an open differential if you want to track this car which is supposed to be the nismo package it becomes an open differential once you start overheating it and then The rest of this car also has notorious cooling problems with the brakes and engine, so why not swap this bad boy for a 3.5 way LSD?

I can do it in a grand tourer, well you can and that's what a lot of people end up doing. these cars if they try to turn them into a more track oriented vehicle well let's talk about the engine just below the cat 370z yes this is the famous brand of vq engine this is a 3.7 liter v6 it revs at approximately 7,500 rpm and generates 350 horsepower. and it doesn't mean a lot of quality, at least that's what the vq doesn't mean because the first cars, specifically those from 2009 to 2011, had oil consumption problems. I'm sure it got stuck on some of the later ones too, but I haven't.

I've heard so many problems, the other two things that pose cooling issues, the 370z is known for having oil temperature issues when you're tracking these cars and lastly the other notable failure point is clutch slave cylinder failure. , also known as csc. fault that if you take it to a dealer it will probably cost you around a thousand dollars but you can do it yourself relatively easily that's all yeah other than that honestly I mean it's a simple v6 there aren't too many problems with he. Most performance cars have problems like the ones I mentioned, but the truth is that there is a huge aftermarket for these things and you know what most enthusiasts ask for and the fact that you can get these, not the new ones or the nismo ones, but the standard cars for They are cheap and make a lot of power, making them a very attractive option for many younger enthusiasts.

Well, we'll find out more when we take this thing out on the road and put these winter tires to the test. yeah mark oh yeah oh jack oh the nismo 370z show me oh god dude that fake engine noise is the worst this is not a good sounding car it doesn't sound good I know people like him v6 here and I have heard Nissans. and infiniti with decent sounding exhausts and all that but this car oh my god I can't believe they put in the fake engine noise they did in 2015 and it's through the lovely bose audio system with noise cancellation and everything what it does is sound like a five year old on a Casio keyboard it's so bad oh my god yes this game this car sounds like it's straight out of Forza or worse than that no it's like someone is doing its first simulation of an engine sound, it's so bad.

Yes you know this is an interesting car for me, as we talked in the store, the price is you can get it on the used market, depending on what variant of z it can be very cheap, you can get them in the teens, although this is a 45,000 cars today in 2020 and time has not been on this car's side, it doesn't have the timelessness of an s2000 or even a miata, that's because it's not a focused product to me. I don't know if I agree 100% with that. I feel like at the time it was developed it was focused on being a Japanese muscle car and with aftermarket support and things that were available in its time when it was released, it's extremely competent in 2009, yeah, yeah, if you want to talk. about this as a new car, don't buy it as a new car and I think we said the same thing about the special edition and remove the head unit while you're at it so you don't have to listen to that fake engine.

It didn't make noise anymore, but for its time it was appropriate, it was competitive, but that's because the American cars in 2009 weren't that good, the mustang and camaro in 2009 weren't good, but in 2015 when this was updated Last time in 2014, you had the Mustang S550. and then shortly after the 6th gen camaro and they have similar used prices to these nisms and are in every way a better car but they are not japanese jack, I don't care who cares, no they are the s5 , so as when buying a new car, there is no conceivable way you would choose this from a performance perspective over the other used cars on you.

They have the same prices as this thing and that annihilates what you have to love, you have to love this brand. I have to love Nissan to justify it and I just don't think it's worth it. I think this is absolutely 100 like a 20,000 used car and at that point, when you compare it to an 86, sure, but the 86 feels better the harder it is. You drive it, this is a seven-tenths car, you know the steering doesn't feel that precise, the shifter when you run isn't very good and yes, you have power steering, but you don't feel anything through the front wheel, all of them. your actions feel like there's like 50 pounds of rubber between you and you really feel something in this car and the v6 yes it revs up to 7500 rpm which is fine it's a really admirable trade off about this vehicle and it's quick but it doesn't sound well and once you get past 6,800 rpm, it feels like it's totally windless, so let's forget about the fact that you hate this car for a minute, okay, and let's get to the point where you won't buy it new for 45 grand or 47 grand with an automatic transmission. you are buying it for 25k as a used car let's talk about the merits of how good it is as an enthusiast car at that time it has good horsepower it is really fast there is a high overall cost on this car once you go to the spare parts market.

Period, I understand well if you also have no perception of what a s2000 and a miata feel like, the newer mustangs, camaros, corvettes, many of the newer sports cars and you are coming from an altima or a fusion or a civic, yes this is God. that is, if you're going to get into that used price range of s2000 miatas, older japanese cars from that era, it's rear wheel drive, it's still fast and it's capable on the track, i mean, yeah, it has braking elements , it has cooling elements like any car but this is a really capable car if you drive it and you know what to change and I think that's why it stalls and that's why it has a rabid following, I mean I've been in cars that are set up to autocross with the right shocks, the right brakes, the right cooling setup and they're a lot of fun, they're a lot of fun for autocrossing, but you take that same car to the track and then it's unusable, I don't know, man, would you rather have it? this at 350 something or I don't know what it is 300 more horsepower over an 86 for the same price having owned an 86 and now spent two different loan periods on this car I would take an 86 every time unless you are just chasingNumbers, I don't know, I think you'll get the v6, which is really reliable in this car, and you'll get speed that you won't get in a lot of the green stacks, like the 86, which is incredibly slow like the Miata. much more torque, but still not fast, the s2000, I mean you can basically take a nap when it gets to the quarter mile, this is still that generation, if you are the toughest and fastest car that has to be Japanese, you want be able to do it. modify it, you have a huge aftermarket support network, you can make these cars great.

I agree with you, but I don't know. I think time has passed and the American counterparts are much better now. There are other cars if we are looking. 2020 2021 you are absolutely right if you want this car you get a mustang or a camaro, although the camaro upgrade was horrible, they are far superior cars in almost every measurable way from that performance, I like the simplicity of this. Car that I like, it still feels like a car from the 90s and 2000s and there's not much to it, but it's not enough for me to say, oh, I have to spend 45,000.

There's just no possible way that the essence of this is good and I'm excited for the 400c, they will update the engine. We've updated the interior, they've retuned the suspension, you know, yeah, it's something to look forward to and it's something to look forward to with this car as a used proposition, but let's get into the final thoughts, all right, final thoughts on the nismo 370z. Everything that needed to be said was said during the drive, but I need to make this clear when you look at this car, as time has passed, there is no doubt about it, it doesn't feel like a modern sports car, it feels like yesteryear. or two generation old sports cars and that's exactly why you buy them, you certainly don't buy these new unless you have a few screws loose and I feel sorry for Nissan, I know they continue to make them, that's also one of the big reasons to buy them.

It is used because they are still producing the parts for this, they are not discontinued like the 10 year old Fords and there are so many good things from a drivability perspective, you have old school steering, you have a manual transmission and there is vibration through through which the manual transmission is is not isolated, you still feel the vibration, the chassis is amazing even for its age, just for me, there are certain cars that I feel like I like to communicate with you better from the first moment, like the s2000, the miata nd or nc, may be a lot more fun, but this thing is still fast, Jack makes the argument why bother with this when you can get the American Muscle Cars or the American Performance Cars that will just blow the doors off of you. this and I understand the argument, but there is something about this that I know is super attractive. from the styling to the looks to the design its a classic

nissan

and if you buy it for 25k enjoy it modify it and experience a real japanese all wheel drive car and i think thats where i will leave it.

I said this. in the previous Nissan video we did on the 370. This car will have cool factor in about 10 to 15 years once they stop making it, once it's gone people will say, "Oh man, that's a cool car, It's a classic Nissan and I really do." I think it's going to be one of those cars that right now we're blinded by like, oh, why do they still make this? and then when it's gone people say oh I wish they still made this and that's life as someone who loves enthusiast products, thanks for watching. I will see you next time