The YouTube Couple Torn Apart by an "Obsessive" Fan: Ryan Trahan and Haley Pham

that's so dishonest so this is one of the most frustrating things that I feel like it made me lose a lot of respect for him. His reckless lifestyle is marketed to this pubescent audience as healthy, mature and relatable, when he is anything but me. We have contacted at

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eys and are working to file a restraining order against him. Ryan Trahan and Haley Pham are called out in a video essay and the answer gets very confusing before we get into the topic. I just want to post a disclaimer, please don't. send any hate to

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yarrow or anyone else mentioned in this story this video is simply intended to report the news in early september a

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channel called spv labs posted a commentary video titled ryan

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need to press pause before it went private a few weeks later the video had almost half a million views the video essay lasted just over two hours and contained a lot of criticism about ryan and

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's decisions and how they presented their actions to their young audience the most Concerning about the Ryan and Haley saga is that its young and impressionable general audience does not yet have the facilities or life experience to offer a sensible counterweight to the breakneck speed at which Ryan and Haley currently live, conversely, it is commercialized his reckless lifestyle.

This pubescent audience is healthy, mature, and relatable when it's nothing more than the central theme of their story is, ultimately, that children and irresponsible young adults are steering this ship sideways. I think they should be treated with compassion and understanding because they are young people. trying to make your way in the world in a strange time under unusual and stressful personal circumstances; However, with their large number of young followers, there comes a responsibility to reflect on the messages and example they are setting and are currently unable or unwilling to participate. For my part, I will try to summarize the main points as best I can, but due to the length of the original video, I will not be able to cover all the criticisms.

SPV begins the video by giving a brief summary of Ryan and Haley's background. Spb said he was a fan of Ryan's content and explained why Ryan dropped out of college and went to YouTube full time; However, things did not go as planned when Ryan entered college because he used his image as a college athlete to promote his company Neptune and videos of him. The NCAA deemed him ineligible for competition. If Ryan were to remain an athlete on Texas AM, he would have to remove all Texas AM related content from his YouTube channel to avoid using his status as an athlete to sell O B products entirely. distancing himself and his image from the operation of his company in the end ryan chose option c to drop out of school completely and dedicate himself completely to his business and

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channel because I thought about this for months, right?

I thought about it all. the days. It's a calculated risk, I'm not doing it with my fingers crossed hoping things turn out well, it's something I feel very comfortable with. I don't recommend giving up or taking a crazy risk if you don't know exactly what you're going to do and you don't know exactly where to go. You're going to go when talking about Hayley's background. spv noted how haley became financially responsible for her and her family when she was still in high school around the same time her channel started blowing up. Until her parents divorced and her mother lost her job, not only that, but Haley became her mother's main breadwinner through YouTube earnings and she still remains in this. role of benefactor today.

I believe that most of Haley's personal problems stem not from an inherent flaw but from the pressure and ongoing trauma of this situation Ryan and Haley met at vidcon in 2018. They began their relationship as friends and a few months later, they started to have long distance dates. In this section, SPV looked at Ryan and Haley's content and how it evolved after they started. Dating said that while he didn't like Ryan's content as much during this period, he did well with viewers with several videos garnering millions of views. He also said that he admired Ryan for being able to successfully evolve his content.

SPV also pointed out how to fix this. The time Haley dropped out of high school less than a year before graduating after saying she was unfairly punished for a video she filmed at school while she wasn't officially expelled, she said she didn't feel comfortable continuing to attend classes at the school spv . She said that she believed there was a decline in the quality of Hayley's videos after she dropped out of high school. He also said that Haley tried to compare her dropping out of high school with Ryan dropping out of college, but spv said those situations are not the same, but there is no equivalence between Ryan's case of dropping out of college after two months and Haley who dropped out of high school with less than a year left.

She claims that she didn't return because she thought the teachers would have been prejudiced against her and maybe they were. but that's no justification for wasting a title when she's so close. Furthermore, if her future was truly untenable at this school, she could have transferred elsewhere to finish her degree. I think if she had stayed in school, her content could have been just as successful. If nothing else, Ryan took a significant risk by dropping out of college and focusing on his business when he only had 20,000 subscribers. Haley, on the other hand, had a million subscribers and was already earning a serious income when she left high school, the only thing she took a chance on. it was a high school diploma that was within reach the message of do what you want to do only works if you have the financial security to back it up in september 2019 ryan haley and hayley's mom went on a trip to positano italy and santorini greece for Ryan and Haley's first anniversary after the trip, Haley posted a now-deleted story time video titled I Lost Ten Thousand Dollars and Caught a Rare Disease Story Hour where she talked about the trip and everything that went wrong .

SPV said this story time video was extremely controversial because he said Haley seemed to insult many different groups of people in one video. The first spv group said that Haley insulted the people of Greece during the holidays. Haley seemed to be concerned about the aesthetics of the vacation and she constantly compared the real places to the photos of her on Instagram. and pinterest looks like real life instagram photos and it looks like they used a shiny app on the water and haley discouraged her fans from visiting greece. I strongly advise you against going to Greece. Not only do they have economic difficulties and the government is kind. fighting right now, but it's not fun santorini is not as pretty as the instagram bloggers make it out to be.

The second spv group said Haley insulted nurses and other medical professionals when Haley returned from vacation. spv said she contracted a rare vaginal infection and before. she was able to be properly diagnosed. She had seen a nurse at an urgent care center and two other medical professionals at a gynecologist's office. spv said Hayley criticized the urgent care nurse she saw for not being a real doctor. Yeah, she's not even like a real dog. It's a little offensive since I know nurses are still doctors, but she wasn't a real doctor. She also said the nurse didn't try to get to know her and accused her of trying to get a commission from Haley for getting a cat. scan, I don't know why she did that, other than getting money or a commission for the cat scan, I really think she just didn't take the time to get to know me.

The last spv of the main group that said Hayley insulted were people she had had before marriage while waiting to be diagnosed spv said that haley, a devout christian, was angry at God for what was happening, I literally went through a phase of that I was like mad at God because I was like, why would I literally like that? wait to do anything and yet my vagina is what is being punished, like why me of all people, after receiving backlash and international news coverage, spv said hayley first limited her comments and then deleted the video. spv also said that haley posted an apology video on her vlogging channel then deleted that video. spv spent a large portion of the video criticizing ryan and haley's decision to buy a house after a brief but detailed explanation of how home buying and mortgages work. spv said ryan and haley bought a house.

It was a bad idea to buy a house and subsequently pay a mortgage is a serious fiscal commitment that is not conveyed in any of the house hunting videos from this period, this is worrying not only for the sake of Ryan and Haley's financial situation But also because their young, impressionable audience is presented with a completely irresponsible economic view of buying a home, the flippancy with which they treat their house-hunting videos undermines the reality that many people spend years and years saving. for a down payment on a house and that some people commit to a mortgage that they cannot pay and subsequently suffer consequences such as bankruptcy due to foreclosure and bad credit ryan and haley if you have made it this far in the video if a financial professional encouraged you to make this purchase, you should fire them today in this section spv also gave three potential estimates for ryan and haley's net worth and gave several potential scenarios for how they could have purchased the house based on the estimates of the net worth and price of the house they spv revealed it was 1.4 million. dollars, concluded that unless they had purchased a less expensive home without a mortgage, buying a home didn't seem to make financial sense for them.

He then mentioned Ryan and Haley's engagement and upcoming wedding. He said the crux of the logic of their relationship was a chase. complex based on society's standards society just imposes this timeline on all of us to follow it's kind of an unspoken timeline but you know it's like if you have to move out at 18 you have to go to the college at 22, you should graduate and then at 23 you better have a stable paying job, then between 24 and 26 you better get married and then maybe have a baby, that's not a timeline for everyone, no we all have to follow it so you know people used to get married in the past at 13 they have a child at 14 and that shows that society changes and so do people's timelines and what People think it's normal, which it's not, if someone wants to get married when they're 17, you don't know their circumstances. you know everyone's circumstances are different spv described his own personal prejudices against young marriage and said that his main problem with marriage was not his age but the immaturity of ryan and haley spv played a clip showing ryan and haley saying that they ignored criticism from people other than their friends and family, I think if it was my best friend or my mom or my dad who really knew me, if they were worried, I think that's a red flag because they actually know us. as human beings and they see our relationship with people who don't know us and don't know a relationship, an absolutely irrelevant opinion, an opinion to which they are entitled anyway, but not one that is very valid.

We value the opinions of our family and friends, but the humans of the Internet not so much. summed up their rationale for getting married: You've already bought a house and started building your life together, so why not seal the deal and go all out? He further addressed how his reasoning was flawed, but his reasoning involves an even more dangerous assumption that because a house, a dog, and investments together, they somehow have the emotional maturity of typical 30-year-olds who also have a of similar life. He noted that both Ryan and Haley are relatively inexperienced. Ryan is Haley's first serious relationship and Hayley is Ryan's first girlfriend.

Spv said Ryan appeared to be guilty of love bombing when one partner overwhelms the other with loving actions, words and behaviors as a way to manipulate the other person. You don't necessarily need a consciously controlling person to do this, many times it can be. just immature people who don't have a healthy model for a romantic relationship spv cited two examples of ryan's love bombing tendencies when he gave haley a jar that she couldn't open with a note inside asking her to marry him, the which she gave him his two months of dating and his elaborate proposal, part of which included her opening the jar with the proposal message, also noted that Haley herself said she had doubts about the relationship in January 2020.

It was happening for this strange. existential crisis because we had been living in the house for about three months and I was thinking what is happening, I am 19 years old and I just bought a house withmy boyfriend and you know, maybe I should give up this serious adult life. and just go be a teenager and maybe party with my friends and travel the world without you while the relationship breakup seemed to last less than a day spv said it was still worrying that haley had major doubts about the relationship as soon as a few months before the engagement. spv finally addressed the controversial medical advice that haley had given to her audience.

The most recent case of questionable advice came this year when Haley was sharing her birth control journey while she said she and Ryan were waiting to get married before becoming active. start birth control before that in a now deleted episode of her podcast call me honest haley described part of the experience of her this week i tried the patch and i tell you how you got this too. This is what I find interesting, yes, so there is an online method to get it where you have an interview with a doctor through the computer and they send you the prescription on their local CV or whatever and you just pick it up and because of everything what's going on, I really didn't want to go to the doctor's office and I mean, in general, I don't want to go to the doctor's office, so I did it over the phone and they put the patch on me because that's what I asked them for, basically because I have a friend who has the patch and she was like, oh yeah, I had no side effects, like it was cool. for me and apparently the patch has a lot of milligrams or whatever the dosage is, I tried looking up what is a low dose, what is a high dose and I didn't get many clear answers so I still don't know where. the patch lies and you can put it on it looks like a band aid and then I put it on when I started my period on Sunday and literally the next morning I worked out and I threw up after about three times I felt so nauseous and Gross Haley also promoted her YouTube comments section as a forum of personal experiences for his audience and talked about the ovulation cycle and when a person with a uterus can get pregnant after spv gave a brief but in-depth look at the ovulation cycle.

He said Haley advocated for the natural family planning method that involves tracking body changes throughout the menstrual cycle and does not involve drugs or other medications. Spv said that while the natural family planning method is a good way to monitor your health and help with conception, the general medical consensus is to also use medical birth control if you want to prevent pregnancy at the end of your explanation of why you prefer the natural family planning method over the artificial birth control method. Haley said the thing is, you can make mistakes with birth control like we do.

Yes you can, Lily and I, here are products from moms who take the birth control pill, so at the end of the day, you're taking a risk either way, what risks do you want to take? The real spv explained that the difference is that there are large peer-reviewed studies on the effectiveness of these types of artificial contraceptives that specifically list the risk, while these conclusive studies for nfp do not exist. You can't just equate the two with your audience, Haley and her co-host. lily responded to the controversy in the following episode of call me sincere. I think the YouTube space is very different because yeah, yeah, our podcast community that we've built.

I feel like girls like them super super sweet and they know us and knowing our intentions is all I have to say I just want to tell you to consult your doctor about birth control and it's your body and it's your responsibility I'm 19 you're 21 and we were personally sharing our experiences it is not a recommendation it is not one you should do this or you should not do that we are not doctors also informing you what to expect spv ended the video by going through some minor controversies in a lightning round and then advised ryan and haley not to get married right away and instead of pausing and reflecting on their relationship and future, most people supported the video, not this two hour long video from spv labs about ryan trahan and hailey pham, which doubles as The most informative explanation of home finances with a dose of education I have ever seen.

This is not me watching this two-hour video. Ryan Trahan and Hailey Pham need to press pause because one voice is equal to two years of my inner thoughts. I'm fine, everything is fine. Can we give SPV Labs an Oscar for Ryan Trahan's video of the Haley family, please? but some people didn't like it why can't they literally stop hayley pham and ryan trahan from consuming their content if you get so angry and upset so everyone can be happy watching a two hour documentary about a 21 year old and 19 years old? old one made by someone who has been following them for years and doesn't know them.

It's weird that Ryan Trahan and Hailey Pham made mistakes, but that's very strange shortly after SPV posted the video. Ryan wrote a second-long comment. The channel's gamer boy, Ryan, said his video was good. Ryan said some of the criticisms were valid and some criticisms were wrong. Ryan offered to call SPV, but SPV refused and instead they spoke via a long DM conversation according to the now-deleted gossip forum posts. spv said the two shared personal details about their education, work and lives, but did not share any specific information or speak further about the conversation because they had both agreed to keep the conversation private.

Ryan later edited his comment to say that he and spv spoke privately. and things were going well between them, however, Ryan revealed SPV's real name in that comment when the video started gaining more traction and more of Ryan and Hayley's viewers saw it. Ryan and Hayley responded to fans directly when a fan asked Hayley about the video in her In an Instagram comment, Haley responded that she didn't get the financial part right, but the rest are valid criticisms. In some parks she makes erroneous assumptions and in others she accurately documents mistakes we've made during our careers, most of them a year or two ago.

So I'd like to think that we've grown up and that they don't represent us as well anymore. Ryan also posted an Instagram story addressing the video and said that he thought the video was cool, but that it was hard to watch itself. It's great. The guy is very, very smart, the super knowledgeable vocabulary is amazing and the video probably took hundreds of hours to make, so I want to say the video itself is fantastic, but imagine it's pretty hard to watch someone analyze and dissect every single one. mistake you have made in your life. Ryan also talked about the DM conversation with SPV, so we talked on Twitter for hours trying to shed light on each other, find a middle ground and that's what we did and it was good, it was really very good, they're actually very good . similar people for the most part, he's 27, he has a kid on the way, he's a wife, he has a PhD, he's super smart and it was really nice to talk to him because our backgrounds are pretty similar so it was nice aside.

Of SPB's marital status that he revealed in the video, most of those details did not appear to be easily accessible through a casual glance at his social media pages. spv also deliberately gave a false age in his video and his wife's pregnancy was not public information ryan said that haley had not seen the video haley had not seen the video because we are going through some personal difficulties right now, like we just losing a loved one and it's a really difficult time and you can imagine, like I said, this video is traumatizing, he said He and Haley weren't hiding anything, but the video wasn't a good representation of who they were now.

I hope they realize that some of these things no longer represent us well, like some of the images he uses are from a year ago. It's two years old or two years old or something it's like a

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of months old and it doesn't represent us well anymore and that's just the weird side of the Internet, something that represents you forever on the Internet. Ryan said people could watch the video. and they form their own opinions and the people who are watching the Instagram story didn't want them to fail. I know that you who see this are the people who really support us and don't want to see our marriage crash and burn and see us lose. everything and sometimes it feels like the energy in the comments section is what people want, and so for you, we'll be happy to address any of our past mistakes or concerns you have, so let me know like no I'm here to run away from anything and neither is Haley, but I also know that this is a difficult situation for us.

He ended the post by saying not to expect perfection from him and Haley, we are human beings, we are figuring out life just like you, so please don't do it. Don't hold us to some standard of perfection because we are going to fail you every time we are imperfect we are going to fail we are going to make mistakes and videos like this artificialize our lives and make us feel a certain way. that will cause us to make more mistakes after Ryan posted the Instagram story. SPV was upset that Ryan had shared personal details about him that were not attached to his social media after they both agreed to keep the conversation private.

SPV posted a now-deleted video titled Attention. ryan trahan where he accused ryan of cheating on him when he revealed those personal details. He also corrected a mistake he made where he said that a person with female reproductive organs can get pregnant for more than six days in a month. He said a person can only get pregnant in a window of five or six days, but it was unclear when those six days occur because they differ from person to person and also depends on when that person ovulates. spv said he felt he was too harsh with some of his minor criticism in the lightning round at the end of his original video, spv finally addressed his previous posts on twitter and youtube, said he had a strange sense of humor and said he made several posts in which he Photoshopped Ryan and Haley's YouTuber friend, Ryan Yarrow, posing with famous women and added a sensational headline.

He said he thought pairing a mid-level YouTuber with a famous woman and adding a crazy headline was absurd and funny and compared it to another series of tweets where he pretended that one of his friends was missing for over a month and also attributed it to him. Going from short creepypasta-style YouTube videos to that same weird sense of humor, he ended the video by saying he was taking some time away from social media to focus on his family in a now-deleted gossip forum post. SPV clarified that he made the video about Ryan revealing personal information because Ryan had sent him conflicting direct messages.

I also thought he would say this to clarify. I released the docs video yesterday after Ryan sent me direct messages that were very confrontational after I sent him a long story about my art and how I just make. stuff for some people's amusement of course, he said it sounded cool and he'd check it out, then he sent me screenshots of Yarrow's photoshops and my youtube content and made rude comments about how these things totally changed his opinion of me and He made a comment about how the retention rate must not be very good, so basically he was definitely planning on painting me as a creep and I got ahead of myself after SPV posted their video.

Ryan posted a story on Instagram saying that he would make a video addressing both SPVs. original video and his claims that Ryan cheated on him. Ryan Yarrow also posted a lengthy Instagram story defending Ryan Trahan and Haley and expressed his discomfort with SPV's content involving his gyro. He began by addressing the times when SPV used a Yarrow deepfake and jokingly pretended to be one. him in the original video, the first thing I want to talk about, just because it involves me, so I just want to get that out of the way, is the fact that this guy is literally impersonating me and pretending to be me, so much people.

I have so many DM people asking me if I was the only documentary because he made it seem like and it seemed like I was the one who made a two hour documentary about two of my best friends, why would I do that? all no it's not second while he likes deepfake my face in his face at the beginning of the video I think it was a pretty job but whatever it was he still did it pretending to be me throughout the video people thought which was me so that's really weird don't do that two don't do that three it's weird don't do that then he talked about how ryan trahan and haley have made mistakes because they're human and no one really knows what goes on behind the scenes no one does. really know.

What happens behind the scenes? I literally live with Haley and Ryan and I can say that the two of them are two of the most genuine people I have ever met in my life. They have done a lot for me, a lot for their families, a lot for their community. Okay, there are so many things you don't see behind the scenes, people make mistakes, man, it's part of life, that's how we grow, like thatwe learn. He also implied that SPV hated Ryan Trahan and Haley really doesn't understand how you can have so much. hatred and so much anger in your heart that you literally pray, wish and hope for the downfall of people, especially their marriage, how can you live every day and a healthy lifestyle worrying so much about someone else's marriage that you hope it fails? that doesn't make sense to me it's life they want to get married young they can get married young they want to buy a house because they can afford to buy that house they can buy that house it doesn't make sense to me said spv had been watching ryan trahan and haley's content for the last few years last three years and claimed that spv made the original video to get his attention.

He also said he was uncomfortable with Twitter posts spv made about him. He made some strange posts on Twitter. I'll post a

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in the next story right here, so yeah, they're really rare. He calls it as an alternate reality game. I have it here. It is not an alternate reality game. I don't know what the hell that means, but obviously. This guy has been obsessed with us for the past three years and making this two-hour long expose documentary was his only way of trying to get our attention. Yarrow accused SPB of defaming Ryan Trahan and Haley.

I hope you're enjoying it. your little power trip right now, you know, getting your points, pulling your bag, slandering people who are just living their life and possibly making mistakes along the way, finally turned to ryan trahan allegedly doxing spv, I just want to say, brother, he didn't dox you. okay, he said your name, he revealed your name in that video in the comments section, you could have deleted that comment if you didn't want people to know, but you could have deleted the comment, dog, the next thing Ryan mentioned. he was uh on his instagram story it was his age and the fact that he has a doctorate is fine with the information given no one can do anything with it your first name without last name and your age and in fact you have a doctorate which is irrelevant in this conversation you know how many people are there in the world who have your name and your age and just expect this in his newest video when he was addressing the tweets he talked about me, the weird foods I talked about in the previous stories, he said he made all these other strange tweets and literally revealed where he lives if that's not kidding yourself I don't know what is.

Haley reposted part of Yarrow's Instagram Story to her own Instagram Story. She also posted a screenshot of a private message she received from a fan. I wrote Hi Haley, I've been following you for quite some time and while the video makes assumptions about your personal life, your response seems like you're ignoring yourself as much as appreciating one of your friends backing you up. I feel like this is an attempt to discredit the person who posted that video and the post she made on the video, whether valid or not. I have seen the comment on your Instagram post that says that you have changed as a person and that your projection. of your finances was wrong, but I challenge you to address some of the mistakes you've made in the past, like misinforming your audience about birth control by claiming the video creator is a troll or discrediting them;

It seems like you were just avoiding what his message was. Haley responded to those who think this is an attempt to discredit the boy and avoid responsibility. Almost all the mistakes from two years or two months ago have been addressed. This deleted podcast on birth control will be addressed in the next episode if you're that focused. about looking for a mistake in a deleted video and not looking for the answer you have, there's not much I can do but learn from my mistakes and move on, how many times do I need to address a mistake before you're the one who has to?

Sorry and trust that I'm changing before Ryan Trahan had a chance to make his response video. SPV made all videos on his channel private and deleted his Twitter account. Then, on September 29, Ryan Trahan uploaded a response video with the same title as the SPV video. I started the video by addressing spv directly. You are a very smart guy. I know your intentions are pure and sincere because of your affinity for my racing videos and my outlook on life. I thought we would have a really great conversation if we could have a phone call or a zoom call um but you didn't want to do that which I totally understand he said he didn't know why spv deleted the video I don't know exactly why he deleted the video , it is very difficult and Negative situation in which I hope everything is fine and I still want to address all the criticisms you had because they are very fair and valid.

However, Ryan said that he felt that SPV's comments about wanting Ryan and Haley to learn and grow were contradicted by his actions that you reiterate throughout the video that you made this documentary because you care and want to see us grow and learn from our mistakes and I really appreciate it but some people sent us screenshots showing you responding to every mention of Haley or I. name on Twitter and dming people who say things like this should cancel them and try to turn our followers against us and a little later I realize that this is not our first encounter with you, Ryan then explained that he and Ryan Yarrow were feeling insecure and I.

I realize you've been stalking Ryan Year and me for years trying to get our attention. These actions over the years have made us feel insecure and anxious, and I'm honestly not surprised you've reached this point. My biggest hope is that this video allows us to acknowledge our mistakes and accept responsibility and also illustrates that cancel culture and hyper-

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behavior almost always leads to negativity and lack of growth. He also said he found it strange that spv consulted gossip websites for information for the original video, he did hundreds of hours of research, compilation and editing to create this giant video.

He worked closely with the Haley family gossip groups, which I find a little strange considering he is much older than us and within this video there are tons of valid criticisms about our lives, he addressed the spv's criticisms of haley abandoning from high school and the way they seemed to approach the topic of education, we wore this and Haley and I have talked about absolutely everything together, we mean this, like deciding whether or not to finish high school, pursue college or whatever decision important in life is deeply personal and no general statement can represent a large community of people.

We do not recommend dropping out of high school or college. We also don't recommend that you go to college or do anything. We have told you our stories and our transparency based on our own experiences. Personally we have a bit of resentment towards the educational system. If you had this conversation with me in real life, I would probably talk about what I think is unfair. Most people have to go into debt to pursue what they love, not that we don't love academics or learning. I was valedictorian of my high school education is one of the most powerful tools we have and these statements Haley is especially reckless with.

The way he talks about it may be fair, but to combat our echo chamber of prejudice, like Haley, he has made an entire video that reached over 2 million people, showing a successful entrepreneur who decided to finish college and because it is important. Ryan then addressed spb's criticism of Haley's fashion-based content that he characterized as condescending. He also addressed how they rely on content creation for income and personal fulfillment. This time in our lives was quite difficult to navigate and finding our identity while uploading content to sustain our lives probably isn't the healthiest thing. in the world is by no means a perfect world, we would take three month breaks when we have mental difficulties, but we have financial responsibilities, we have family members who depend on us, we have careers to support and we also love what we do, creating. a form of therapy for us ryan said spv was too hard on haley for having an existential crisis when she was 18. and it's almost like he's condemning haley for having an existential crisis while she's dealing with her parents' divorce and moving into a whole new life. her career when she was 18 years old.

Existential crisis is something that many people experience, especially at this age, and she should not be ashamed of it. He also said that spv only complemented Ryan's content during the same period, which he called condescending and then talked about the fat trip controversy in the original video spv compared Haley's story time video to the Japan video from Logan Paul saying that both YouTubers damaged their careers and channels largely from videos they posted themselves. Ryan seemed to disagree with this comparison that Ryan brought Hayley into. Addressing the controversy herself first, I just want to deeply apologize to anyone I hurt with my actions and words in that video.

I made so many comments about Greece as a country that was so ignorant and full of privilege that I didn't even recognize it. at that moment it hurts me to watch that video, that whole incident was a reflection of my very biased and warped perspective at that time, the lack of awareness of the privileges and even the harmful ideologies that I had, so many comments came out of my mouth in that video . Full of rights, I really want to thank you for showing me how ignorant my actions and words were and guiding me back on a path to grow in a better direction and I hope that during this last year you have seen actions and seen progress. and I have seen growth in myself.

I am still a very flawed human being and I will continue on this journey for the rest of my life. Thank you for pointing out when I'm being ignorant and failing, but even more than that, thank you. for the grace and the space to really make the growth that is so necessary that it is priceless and I truly believe that is what has allowed me to be the girl who said those things, edited the video and posted it on the Internet for me, who This year I'm the one who sees that and I'm surprised by the things he was saying.

Ryan came back and addressed spv's criticisms about buying a house, but I 100% understand when we post videos looking at beautiful houses and touring houses and making them look. Like it's no big deal, that can seem like, first of all, privileged, it seems like we're clearly not informed about what we're doing, that we just stumble into the situation and we're happy, we're lucky and nothing can. It's not going well, this idea that we're some sort of benchmark for the economics of buying a home or that we're not allowed to tour houses a little lightly is pretty ridiculous.

I understand that we have an audience and we have a responsibility to them. but we create those home shopping videos because we love looking at houses and we have a great time touring them. It's that easy. It's not like we're trying to mislead our audience or convince them that this is no big deal. We always want people to click on our videos and have to take notes, that doesn't mean it's not serious for us. We've even dabbled in making videos like this one that outlines the specs of the Airbnb properties we stay at. We're awesome. We are interested in real estate, we own several investment properties and next year we will upload some really interesting series related to building and renovating houses, but we still plan to tell a story about people like us, we don't want to teach them economics. spv made assumptions about his and Haley's net worth and said they did not trust his relevance on YouTube for their financial security.

I mean, we trust our overall career and its direction, just like you do with your mortgage, but we've invested responsibly for the most part. our money and we can easily liquidate our assets if YouTube disappears tomorrow buying our house was not a decision that was made without consulting people much wiser than us professionals and neither were the various investments in the real estate market that we made afterwards, so keep going on with these little arguments calling us immature if you don't agree with these thoughts then we just don't agree Ryan said that he and Haley were never giving explicit advice about buying a home and he didn't agree with anyone who had come to that conclusion, he said that they were sharing their opinions and experiences, he also thanked his fans for supporting them and giving them the opportunity to be able to live the life they are living and apologized if the way they presented their home buying process led anyone to make a bad financial decision. "I spent time discussing the weight of this with people behind the scenes and mentors and we didn't share it with you and if that has led anyone to make irresponsible financial decisions, I'm very sorry and we take responsibility for that," Ryan then summarized. the reasonswho gave spv to want to get married and address them here is the assumption that all of these elements can be applied to us, although they may be valid, there are a million other factors that contribute to divorce, it is not our job to satisfy your cherry The selected list of Requirements for Marriage also addressed the idea that waiting three to five years to mature is a reasonable solution to preparing for marriage without reference to developing valuable life skills, such as communication, work-life balance. work or humility.

The reasons they have discussed for marrying young. We have received this advice for getting married from our mentors because there is an assumption that we have the right connection for a sustainable marriage, as well as the tools and foundation to face the inevitable difficulties. I don't think anyone really thinks I'm going to marry someone because we bought a house together, obviously it's hard to explain why you're marrying someone, but to say that we haven't justified it well enough and that's why we shouldn't get married is hard. . Listen the reason we claim we're ready for marriage, since we have things like financial stability and a doctor, is because it's uncommon for people our age and it portrays to skeptics, I guess, a sense of structure and maturity. , since they don't.

They accept our perception of emotional maturity and do not accept that we think it is enough for a lifelong relationship. The entire segment of Why Are You Getting Married? It is rooted in the idea that we, as human beings, should be able to articulate and justify a very emotional and indescribable relationship. Feeling as much as you own the opinion that we are not ready to get married after two years, we have the opposite opinion, addressed spv's comment that Ryan seemed to be describing a codependent relationship as the ideal for a healthy marriage, I want say. It causes some of our values, like wanting to build a life together, to be unhealthy and we simply don't see eye to eye.

Ryan also addressed spv by mentioning the relationship struggles that Ryan and Haley have mentioned in previous videos. There are so many things we talk about. things we have grown out of and uses them against us to say that we are deeply flawed and not ready for marriage. Ryan then addressed the birth control controversy and said that SPV's criticism and comments were condescending to Haley, which is why many people have asked before asking. You're ready to have a child, that's one of the reasons birth control exists, so if people feel safe and ready to have it, that's their choice, so you patronize Haley again, this time about birth control, claiming she didn't do enough research even though she had just had a child. she began to navigate this new chapter.

Haley is honest about this journey with birth. She controls and asks the audience for advice instead of pretending to be an expert. Condemn Haley for sharing her comments section as a forum for her young female community to share experiences. He also brought up the incorrect information spv gave when describing ovulation, which spv addressed in a follow-up video before depriving all of his content ryan criticized spv's reaction you're so sure of yourself, but when the comments criticize you, all you can you say is that I appreciate it in a laughing tone, it just feels extremely unfair that I would absolutely beat Haley to the ground over this issue, but when you are proven wrong, you can't even take extreme responsibility, Haley then came and addressed the situation itself.

The issue of birth control is an extremely important task that she should never have done. It is talked about in such a relaxed and casual tone, instead of doing my research first and then presenting it to my audience, I pull out the camera in the middle of my uninformed journey and even ask what their experience is with birth control in the comments below. and then I'm going to record a podcast detailing my three or four day experience with the patch as birth control and how I was introduced to the natural method. What's missing from this is the lack of emphasis on how to do it every time.

Are you at risk of becoming pregnant and would like everyone, including me, to hear you loud and clear, as much as I can? If you take birth control and keep track, you should know that if you are going to be active, you run the risk of getting pregnant. pregnant and that is missing a lot in the entire video, this is a topic that I should not have talked about without an expert. I have a young female audience that might be active or just becoming active and I should have emphasized the risk you were taking. what I wish I had said is consult your doctor when it comes to birth control, when I only listen to experts this is a wake up call for me as my words carry a lot more weight than I realize.

Ryan also addressed several criticisms of the lightning round, including spv, which brought up haley's comments about people thinking she and ryan were getting divorced, remember that time haley said people worried she was too young to get married and might get divorced are actually projecting their own worries about divorce onto her, literally, you. This entire video is based on our direct messages. This seemed to be another case of Ryan revealing a personal detail that SBB shared in their DM conversation. Riot also commented that SPV criticizes Haley for seeming to feel unsafe around homeless people in her city, so this is one of the most frustrating things I feel that made me lose a lot of respect for him not incriminating an 18 year old girl who she is alone in her car afraid that someone will approach her as someone who is disgusted by someone who is homeless, those are not the same We have worked very closely with a local organization called Front Steps to help combat homelessness in our community.

The leaders of this organization have great respect for Haley and all that she has done for her community. So how are they helping society? He then took to the instagram story where he revealed private information about spv this follow up video accuses me of being a terrible person for doxing him which reveals private information about someone's identity. I shared the following information his name in a youtube comment his age the fact that he has a doctorate the fact that he has a wife the fact that he is a child on the way which I agree was not necessary on my Instagram stories I say your video is awesome I say you are intelligent and reasonable because the viewers in my dms were calling you crazy and ridiculous and I thought it was unfair.

I was trying to humanize you to our audience. I never intended for that information to be harmful and if it was, I truly apologize. Ryan said the SPV accused him of doxing and painted him in a bad light. to his fans and shared messages and comments he received about the alleged doxxing. Ryan defended himself by saying he didn't do dox spv. However, where this narrative falls

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and where I have crossed some sort of unforgivable line is when I realize that you share tweets openly and publicly. revealing his identity his full name and face some posts he has made for his PhD and world records in this tweet, he reveals his full name and hometown, totally contradicting the idea that his online alias is deeply sacred and disconnected from his personal life and of the Out of respect, I simply hid all this personal information and at the time he accused me of misleading him for generally unidentifiable information, these tweets were public, he also accused spv of trying to make him look bad if you really cared about your Se revealed the name, you wouldn't tweet them with your so called private alias and would have deleted my comment immediately, but you wanted to use this against me to push this agenda that I'm a bad person, finally Ryan talked about the weirdness of SPV.

Content that features Ryan Yarrow and generally defames and paints Ryan in a false light. This obsession with my best friend didn't start here. he's been posting about us for years and what he calls an alternate reality game. He posts shirtless photos of ryan yero as a minor saying that he is dating some random public figures in 2018 and 2019 when these tweets appeared on our phone we were very disturbed, we found his youtube channel and watched tons of disturbing videos. Ryan ended the video by saying he was disturbed and shocked by the energy and The time spv spent researching him and Haley to make this video saying it wasn't normal, he said that while the situation had been stressful, he and Haley were happy to having the opportunity to address legitimate criticism with his audience some fans supported ryan and haley dead people have nothing to do with you and haley's personal life is just between you it's that simple you get married when you start listening to those on the outside who don't know what it's really like, that's when the problems really start, my grandparents got married. at 16 and were married for 65 years their entire lives encouraging someone to call off their marriage to the person they love with all their heart is disgusting everyone is used to everyone getting married in their 20s however the public doesn't controls you, I hope so They really enjoy their life with Hayley Ryan.

I've been watching them all for a few months now and I've never gotten cocky vibes or anything like that. I think it's so annoying that people actually have time in the day to make a documentary about audacity being canceled but others took issue with ryan's video saying ryan misrepresented spv's video to everyone saying he hated them clearly never watched the video because he made it very clear that he wasn't, that's a valid criticism for everyone who actually saw it. the entire spv video knows how much ryan is tiptoeing around the situation. I think this is very unfair to the creator of the video.

Ryan deleted that video because you revealed his private information on his internet while agreeing to keep it private. it says you reject criticism and this is an example of that before commenting watch the spv labs video oh you can't because spv got tricked and had to delete everything anyway the video is still posted by another poster watch it before commenting because This video doesn't give you the full perspective, you can't judge something just by watching someone defend themselves. Sorry I watched the entire Spv Labs video I have no idea how anyone got the impression that he was trying to cancel Ryan and Haley or that he wanted their marriage to crash and burn he never said that he just pointed out logical reasons why which might be good for them to take a step back don't break up don't lose their house take a step back mentally part of their point was that they are living in the echo chamber of their fans constantly reinforcing what they say and do, Haley spreads medical information erroneous claim that women who get STDs are not pure and everything else that was described in the video, what Haley and Ryan always say is that this content does not represent them anymore because it is already over a year old.

I know that for young people a year may seem like a long time, it is not, but they also do not realize that you do not simply change at random, but that you have to work hard to change your way of thinking. and changing your actions Haley and Ryan's actions, including this video of Ryan, their overly defensive nature, and their vilification of any fans who try to help them see this type of thing, clearly show that they have put no effort into this growth mindset. and instead they are losing followers who can still enjoy their content but can't accept what is happening learning to accept criticism choosing what you want to pay attention to and choosing what to ignore is difficult, difficult, but it is something you have to learn If you are the type of creative who is putting content out into the world and I fear you are going to fall even further into this mentality of believing without a doubt that only they are right.

Ryan also responded to some critical comments with seemingly sarcastic responses and after posting the video he added a fundraiser to benefit an organization that helps the homeless which appears to be the end of the situation for now. This is an extremely complicated situation. It's easy to understand why Ryan Trahan and Haley would feel attacked and upset by the SPV video and why. Ryan Yaro would feel uncomfortable with SPB making strange content with his image and impersonating him in his video, even if it were a joke, but it's also easy to see why SPV would feel violated if Ryan Trahan revealed several personal details about him after who agreed to keep their conversation private even if it would be difficult to trace spv's identity with the details given.

The spv video contained valid criticism about ryan and haley's decisions that many current and former fans share, while it is difficult to hear criticism about their past actions, especially from For someone you don't know personally, it can be important to hear some insight from a External source. The coach ofPositive psychology and author Caroline Adams Miller says that having an outside perspective can prevent someone from developing stupid courage. Her research into the network has found that people can sometimes chase you. a path that does not bring out the best in them often for reasons that may be below conscious awareness, such as the desire to prove themselves in such situations, it is the honest opinion of others that can be of great help, hopefully everyone those involved can learn something from the situation. and reflect on your choices to make better decisions in the future.

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