The Key to Abundance and Success: Lisa Nichols and Lewis Howes

welcome everyone to the school of greatness podcast very excited about our guest today Lisa Nichols thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I'm excited that she has a new book out. I'm going to show it to the camera real quick, make sure guys, check out this book, we'll have it linked, it's called

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, now amplify your life and achieve prosperity today and I'm very excited about this. I was reading it and I love its message. I love your ideas. I love your wisdom. and I also love your story and I want to delve into it before I start the process of how to be abundant because you didn't start off well, no, not at all, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what we are and you're also a track star from what our agent tells me, I know how, you know, that's like in the cut that's not in the book, he's like you need to talk about your days on the track because I was a of catéte All-American, yes, come on, and uh, yes. so I'm a state champion there you go okay what events uh I ran the 110 and 330 L hurdles wow the 4x400 relay 4X 100 and the open quarter ok co what was your favorite event , the 330 L with 3 fences and me?

I held the record at my high school just to say it in the 330L hurdles for 18 years, boom, get it, girl, boom. I found out in year 15 that I had the record, so I only had three years of bragging and making rice before someone broke it. I love it I love it Okay, uh, I'm curious now that I'm a kid who was the most influential person in your life and what was the most important lesson that you remember my grandmother, my father's mother, my grandmother Bernice and she taught me that. She said she prophesied over my life, which means she spoke life to me when I didn't see it for myself and she said several things, but one of the key things was she said baby, as you grow, you will impact lives and they you're going to write about yourself I have no idea how she knew and a lot of people are going to talk about you she said do yourself a favor take everything they've written about you and put it in a filing cabinet don't read it she said and when you're older than my age , sit in your favorite rocking chair, have a cup of tea and have fun with who they thought you were, while the whole time you knew whose you were and she just instilled in you this sense of humility as you. a servant leader and I don't care what they call you expert Guru Master you are a servant leader you remember that because they will say a lot of things and that's why she has been my anchor you know she passed away a long time ago but she has been my anchor and that It was just one of the most powerful things and then she was also like baby you can get all the knowledge in the world she said but only time will give you the wisdom that I have wow wow I was like I think she's just grandma .

She checked me out, she already knows, and I continue to this day with all the knowledge I've gained from great books like hers and great books like Stephen Cuvy and great books like Phil Jackson 11 Rings and Howard Schultz onwards. You know all these great pieces. from work I still sit at the feet of older people. I still feel like my spiritual mentor. I sit at his feet once a quarter. I sit at the feet of people when they are 20 years older than me or more because they have something that I don't have. It is time for wisdom, yes, so she anchored me in two things that leave me humble.

Wow, okay, what's the wisdom you have from all your time so far? Don't count the number of times you've been knocked down, stick to the number. a lot of times you wake up good I'm gonna get these truth bombs all day Gu good, good, boom, boom, boom, I love it, um, now I'm curious why you didn't start out, you know, with a lot of money and a lot of mentality

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, did you do it right? um, not only was it not a lot of money, you know, it's one thing to be fiscally bankrupt, it's another thing to be emotionally bankrupt, two very different things and I was broke and bankrupt and, um, in 1994.

I had to get the government assistance just to feed my newborn baby. I had to enlist the help of Wick, women, infinities and children. And I still say it and you know, I say it often. They interviewed me. I was interviewed 155 times in 5 months for my previous book no matter what and it still hits me in the same place. I was embarrassed to stand in line with all the other mothers, some fathers to get free pasta, no butter, no cheese, no milk, but at the same time I was grateful. that there was a service to help people like me that I knew wasn't where I was going to stay, but it was where I was at the time.

I was not committed to occupying real estate there, but it was my current Address and it broke and broke like Hitting the I I felt like I had hit rock bottom. Sometimes you feel your back at the bottom like I think that's the bottom right um and then there's always a deeper right, right, right, right, so when I was getting. uh when I was getting food stamps I thought I was in last place mhm and then you'd be right uh I went to the ATM I ran out of Pampers for my son Galani and I went to the ATM to get money to go buy Pampers and it said insufficient funds and I had $142 in the bank, what's the minimum to get 20 dollars exactly, you need 20 to get 20 and, um, I had $142, so I went home and I had to wrap my son Gilani for two days in a series of mosaics different, that was my background and that was because, as a parent, all you want to do is provide that's, it's simple.

I just want to provide security and food for my baby, someone else was providing me and my food. I didn't even have Pampers and I remember the second day I wrapped my son in the towel Louis I put my hand on his stomach and said don't worry Gilani with tears running down my face I said don't worry son mommy I will never be so broke again, so, um, you talk about having financial resources. I realized I needed to do it. First, I believed that I could do something different and that wherever my mindset was, my bank account would follow, so I needed to change my mindset. zip code what was your zip code mental then scarcity lack I was born and raised in South Central LA I grew up between Harlem CP 30 and Roland City I had three fights a week to get home from school my highest grade in school was a C+ in 12 years of school, my highest grade was C+, so if you ever tell this story to anyone, don't forget my plus, don't forget my plus, it's very important for a student c for a student. it was a I was a CD for a student it doesn't matter like plus plus whatever but for a student c the plus matters man I understand so um so I struggled everything in my life was about a hustle mhm everything nothing was easy except the Love for my family it was easy, effortless, elegant and generous, but everything else outside of that was a hustle, get or get, God, it was the environment I grew up in and I'm not saying you have to grow up in that. difficult environment to have an amazing future people always say well Lisa, I didn't have a bad time, could you listen to it?

I would have changed my background for anyone, I don't think I chose that to be able to have this and so I did. I didn't know abundance I didn't know abundance existed I didn't know abundance could happen to people who look like me a woman geographically from my neighborhood I didn't know abundance could be I didn't see it around me I did I don't know that abundance can be for someone who in my culture was all about survival and hustle, so many things and spiritually I didn't know that someone who loves God and is spiritually grounded can also have prosperity without being perceived as greedy.

I mean, everything in my environment said not me, everything said not me, if I listen well to the sound effects and sometimes you have to lower the volume and sure, listen well to your heart, so what was the conversation that you would say to yourself during this time when you are in this scarce tip code someone like me can't have it among them that boy over there comes from the right family that girl over there the color of her skin the right complexion that I have a mocha skin full lips round hip curly hair girl nah no me no no I have other things I have I have an abundant family I have children if I want I have closeness with God but I don't have abundance and and and I realized that a lot of that conversation was embedded in me before I was five, I mean, it just comes with the territory of watching my grandmother make a dime in 20 different directions and I never asked myself if she had 21 dimes.

I just wanted to grow up and make my penny go in 20 different directions to be like grandma and so many things are inherited culturally, gender is inherited as a gender, as a woman, you weren't raised to make millions, you were raised to get a good job or get a man with a good job you know and especially in the 80s and 90s absolutely absolutely and that's how we were raised spiritually they taught you you know in my background my religious background now I'm spiritual I'm not attached to any religion at all, but I grew up in Mount Tabar Missionary Baptist Church was, you know, money is the root of all evil, well, who would want a lot of that and that?

Well, people exactly who want evil and if that's what you say, then I learned that I don't need it. and Sister Brown. I watched Sister Brown and Sister Brown was the most pious woman in the church and she was always selling fish dinners and barbecue dinners to make sure she had enough money and so subconsciously I wanted to be like Sister Brown because that woman can pray to heaven and then again I'm looking at that and then in my neighborhood it was the time when you get a little bit more, you give it away, you give it away to this day.

I'm not kidding, I want one of my last ones. Opportunities that I call, I don't call them challenges, opportunities, I mean, I am among the top 1% of people in the United States and I say this with humility, I am grateful and my job now is to learn how to maintain it and make it grow because I love it. to give it away and I know it is a learning Behavior is a learning and I and I give it away to good things. I just invested $882,000 and renovated my grandmother's entire house because I knew she wasn't going to move, she was going to live, she was leaving. that's what she's going to rest in peace she's going to stay there she's been in that house since 1968 she's not going anywhere so I just redid the whole house tore down the whole house and spent about $100,000 on it do it and 'I'll do it over and over again because I was also taught to give it away, so now I go to people who are more powerful in money in terms of I know how to earn a lot I know how to keep a lot now I learn a lot to grow, you know, and to be willing and humble enough to say that's where I am.

I got the first two because money has three levels. How do you win? How is it preserved? Grow it up and then, you know, I had a conversation for a long time in a lot of different ways and then it's the thing as a woman, if I make that much, it's going to be hard to be able to date that big word, you know, and so like African exactly and men. They are taught like I am taught as a woman about money. They teach you as a man to be the provider. Well, you know it's a little hard to keep a G like me.

You know, when I go in, I go. How are you? we just put it together because I'm pretty cool with the provision thing, you know, and I realize that men also have to get comfortable with the fact that that's an 80s conversation and in 2015 she could make Milons right in 2016, on the book tour. Still last year I started the book tour and it's like every moment you have to tell me the date we're on, we're living inside right now, I feel you, I feel good, you know, alone, alone, I'm alone. recovering finally I'm like tell me there's something on the other side recovery is true right there's a clear voice there's dou there's a healthy body right uh there's your time freedom um so I'm curious about knowing what this moment was and then that moment.

Did you realize, okay, I need to change the way I think, the conversations I have, uh, how I'm showing who I am in each moment by living in this sparse environment that I've lived in for over 20 years. suddenly shift into an abundance mindset and way of being, what was the moment of experiencing the thought, the idea of ​​the Catalyst that broke, I like how you say A moment like I had a roof that opened and the lights came on . they came in and the angels came no, maybe it was over time, right, there was a time when there was a time when the suffering became too painful, there you go, so mine didn't necessarily come at a time of glory, $142 arrived and I saw my baby wrapped. in a towel, a towel, I felt like I was being unfair to him, look, because 30 days before the tow I really told him my things 4 30 days before the towel, his father called me and when I answered the phone I never forget it, I said hi, Lisa said.

I'm in the Los Angeles County Jail, well I don't work in the jail and I don't deal with people in jail and I don't deal with people who have a chance to go, so how did you get there? Because I met you at Corporate America and you were a professional how you got there as your business I don't know but now I'm a single mother of a son whose father is now in prison boomboom Rock Bottom Rock Bottom again, so 30 days later when I would have my son wrapped in a towel I'm done, I'm just done, you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, I'm done, so you know, the concept bankruptcy is that there is nothing left, that is the concept of bankruptcy, so I like to explain it.

I was broke. in my mess I was ruined in my chaos and I was ruined in every sexy because my excuses are sexy because of the way I've been a linguistics major for years. I convinced my teachers to do things right. I mean, that's just been my gift, my father. I used to say Lisa, please promise me you'll use your powers for good and that's why I went bankrupt with all my excuses. So if you ask, it was probably about 3 hours after I told my son I would never be around again. here on the second day of being wrapped in a towel in 1994 M and then I said the next question was: how am I done with this?

I'm not even sure what that looks like, I just know that there is a group of abundant thinkers who live an Abundant Life and have abundant memories with a surplus of everything they need because abundance must be an overflow of the things they have in abundance. . it's just about overflowing, it's about overflowing, that means if there was a saucer under this cup, the abundance would be all this flows into the saucer and I can feed you from my saucer because I have filled my cup enough, I use my cup. for me and I feed you from my plate and abundance that is to say I have a plate in my relationships full of great experiences there is a plate of my health and well-being I have so much health and abundant vitality that I can appear for you there is a plate with my spirituality I can pray Because of you, I can forgive those who perceive the unforgivable and love those who perceive they are unloved and then there is a saucer for my finances and that in every area because abundance is a 360 degree experience, I see that wealth is singularly focused, wealth is about your money and your possessions, that's wealth, okay, but abundance is 360.

I have many very, very rich friends who are miserable, unhappy, lacking who are not abundant, they are rich, they are rich , they're not abundant and they understand it and they come to I and go Lisa, help me with my relationships with my family or whatever, so um, I had to learn something different. Louis, I didn't know what I didn't know, and that became the moment I said what to do. I need to know to have something different, what do they know that I don't know and how can I get it? I became a hunter, so what was the first discovery?

That there is a mentality that comes with abundance and that they think differently. Don't just do something different, there is no connection, first of all, what camera do I look at? Is that, anyone, anyone, there's no such thing as a connection? I'm still waiting for mine and if you know where it is, there's my phone number. so there was no connection, yeah there is no connection, like it's not true, like you have a 297 million in one chance of winning the lottery and five years from now the people with the lottery are more in debt than before they won the lottery , so that's all.

Not even a connection, so I realized that I needed to change my way of thinking, I needed to learn something different and I needed to know it on a cellular level, all those things that I just told you about my color, my gender, my had. to unlearn people we are we are information addicts because we have all kinds of access to information online and we are learning all this but we are not implementing anything. Sorry, I might step on some toes. what I do and then I realized that I had to do it on a cellular level first before I went looking for more information.

I had to be willing to get divorced and dislodge some belief systems I already had that had taken me as far as they could go. take me and now they're holding me back M it's almost like you wear a size 11, you're 11 feet and you tried to fit it back into a size seven shoe, you passed it a long time ago and that's going to be a very uncomfortable day. I felt uncomfortable. I became very uncomfortable with my thoughts, so I began to immerse myself in books. The first book I dove into was Step Cuvies. Seven Habits of Highly Effective People and he interrupted me.

It interrupted everything I didn't know. It was like a double door opened and then a wall opened. I wonder: what do they know? Why didn't anyone tell me that? I felt like I was outside a club and you really are. just G to tell you that there are a lot of thinkers that think a certain way and they don't go around trying to make you like people like you and I'm going to open it up to everyone but this is what I know about the human spirit is that the human spirit has the power to choose and most people don't want to choose this type of thinking because it costs you something. what you do in a day is what some people do in a week what you do in the morning is what some people will do in a 12-hour day you have to be willing to do what you'll do on your book tour to show up in the New York Times some people say I have to do all that I don't want to do all that it's a lot of work okay cool then do your life like you have to sign up for your life experience there's no way you were like when I realized that I I was the culmination of all my decisions that's like straight without a chaser that's like getting it without cookies or milk I was the culmination of all your decisions and then when you level up your decisions and now that's even hard sometimes you leave God why I'm always single you are the culmination of your decisions you are the culmination of your actions why can't I keep the money you are the culmination of your decision your life so I wanted to make better decisions because my son was wrapped in a towel I had $142 I had overweight me my son's father was in prison I couldn't help it I was a culmination my life experience was the culmination of all my decisions and without a doubt it was a disaster and so I was fine, let me learn from someone whose life doesn't seem like a disaster and they let me adopt some of their behaviors and I started hunting and went to conferences and got really scared. conferences I had never attended conferences before going to business conferences.

She was the only one. I was one of four women at a conference of 800 people and I was the only woman of color, so we were all older white men and I and I were like. Okay, they're not afraid of money, it seems like they're talking about money, business, corporations, rois, ppms, term agreements and no, blah, Spanish. I don't know what that means, but I'm not leaving until I figure this out. and I went to the same conference when I said: do what other people won't do and you will have what other people don't have. I went to the same conference Louis 42 times I told you I was a c student so I took It took a few minutes to get it and I was still getting sponsorship.

I didn't even have the money to go to the conference. I started volunteering at the conference. He would be on stage teaching because they loved the way he spoke. So Get down and I would help clean up because I had to pay my guys to be there. It was good. I ate my share of humble pot every day because I was broke. Go to some people you haven't pushed yet. It is not negotiable. You are still optional. I would really love to be

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ful. I want to win money. I want to be healthy, but it's still non-negotiable because the moment the rubber hits the road and you feel a little raw and it gets a little tender and a little blood may appear and you don't want to donate blood you don't want to sweat you don't want to cry let me tell you you can't take the elevator up to the right it's nothing but stairs right yeah boom sorry I got emotional I don't know where you ask what was this event you went to do you know what I'd rather not even tell it because people start to think that The Event was all you know.

I'm going to say there's a conference that you know about. There is a conference you know. Find like-minded people in your tribe who will make you stand on your toes, so you know without being disrespectful. but people are starting to say that's the next light no, it's not like I was hunting because the conference didn't give me much more than the people there that I kept getting from, you know what I mean, the important thing you know , I'm a big believer in visualization and obviously in secrecy, that's something that was talked about. I hadn't watched Secret in 10 years when it came out, but I mean, this is something I practice as an athlete to visualize my results before the game happens to see myself.

Scoring the touchdown at the track meet I'm sure you did a lot of similar things, how important visualization is in abundance, but also how important it is to act correctly, so I have five visualization exercises in that book just because it's so important. a gift for your heart and your soul it is a gift because if the idea is the seed the visualization is the um it is the fertilizer it is the fertilizer because when your thoughts are connected with an emotion, you would visualize yourself winning and you would feel all the emotion that came with that and all you're doing now is you're not chasing some strange emotion, you know the feeling and now you're just doing what it takes to get back to that feeling in real time exactly and so what? a good friend of mine visan um who from the CEO of Mind Valley who do you know um I would do a visualization with him we were in Bali and um he told me afterwards I never get emotional I cried he doesn't understand emotional he likes it right, right, yeah, well , he was like I cried, I got emotional, he's like, I figured it out, it's visualization, good visualization brings emotion, he was like, this is how you do it, so, um, I love visualizations because and and it's really important. in the visualization you can't see it there you have to see it right here feel it you have to feel it here as I am is all I am I am I am in my dream house I am in my dream relationship and then analyze what it looks like, but most importantly , analyze how it feels and when you have that emotion right now, suddenly you wake up something that I don't think will go back to sleep, it will go away, okay, let's go.

Understand that and what it really does is establish a state of cognitive dissonance and cognitive dissonance is when you see something in your mind and you see yourself in a way that your behaviors are not currently leading to and then your mind becomes disturbed and goes. okay, can we get there? I'm not there now I'm not there now and that's not comfortable your mind wants to be literally congruent what it thinks is what you're doing what it thinks is what you're doing and So when you set up constant, abundant thinkers like you and me , we do it unconsciously.

MH, we, we are constantly keeping ourselves in a state of cognitive dissonance, I mean, okay, what else? And I'm seeing Lisa there and I'm doing well. Let me go while I'm grateful for me now, yeah, it's not like I'm going to be whole and complete when I get there. I'm whole and complete now, I just know I'm supposed to be there, so let me. Do whatever it takes to get there and let me dislodge any behaviors or characteristics that are holding me back and let me adopt any new behaviors I need. How can someone discover their unique calling?

Because you talk about that in the book Discovering Something Unique. call What if people are like that? I don't even know what I want. I know I want to be out of the place I'm in. I want to be abundant, rich, healthy, with great relationships, but I don't know what my purpose or calling is. Right now I think people put too much notion on purpose in the sense that they think you have to look like Nelson Mandella or Mother Teresa or Oprah or a you or an i and a lot of times what you really are. what you are good at is right in front of you what you are really good at is right in front of you and recognize that your calling and your purpose can change certain that it can change you have a long life it will not be the same calling all the time and so allow yourself to evolve, Allow your purpose to evolve, what is it that you do effortlessly and that you don't give credit to because you are simply looking beyond it?

Oh, it can't be that because it isn't. Difficult, well what if it doesn't have to be difficult? How about the fact that you're a great listener? How can you take that and use it and expand it and not compare yourself to someone else? Comparison, I think Benjamin Franklin said comparison is the thief of all joy, it's all when you look left or right, you know, people always compare me to Oprah Winfrey or La vanzan or Les Brown or Tony Robins. I said listen, I'll do it if you want me to give you Oprah. or Yan or Tony or Les, I'm always going to fail you 1.00%, but if you're ever interested, I make a very good Lisa nich, I do, I make a good Lisa Nichols.

Yes, and when you look at what my gifts are, what are my unique gifts? I knew it from the beginning. He was a gifted speaker. He was not certified as a gifted speaker. I did not pass any course as a speaker. In fact, the last time I took a speech class I got a D minus and my speech teacher told me Miss Nichols, I recommend that you never speak in public, that you get a desk job which was my first year of college, the last class oforatory that I took, so many times he has discarded his gift and his purpose. whether it's because someone else discounted it or what's more common is you don't know how to monetize it yeah and sometimes the best gift you have to give isn't a fee it's free you look at people like you and me and they do Well, why can it?

Don't they pay me for it? Well, not all the gifts you're supposed to get paid for. Nelson Mandela was not paid to lead for 27 years when he was released from prison. They paid him after that, but he was a great leader while he was in prison. prison and Martin Luther King, he was a, they paid for the church, but his right to fight for civil rights was free and he paid the highest cost and you can go on and on and on with some of the greatest leaders . Mahat m Gandhi it wasn't a paycheck so I'm not and I know we're down to our version but don't get attached to having to get paid for your gift yeah I started this podcast as a way to do that free for one year.

I will not accept any sponsor. I will not do anything. I will not accept any sponsor. sell anything, I'm just going to create and facilitate great conversations and that's it, and now the money is coming in because of how it's impacted people's lives. Your intention was in the right place, yes, but it wasn't how can I do this right. now to make money was how can I serve the most people that right there when people live in a place of servant leadership my grandmother said it when she was 24 if you leave and how can you serve the most people when I feel with my team and ask: how can we serve more people?

How can we serve? Last year we were able to reach 30 million people. As? And that's our whole question now, as we serve, our platform emerges, but how can we serve? Tell me how we can make more money. I'm not interested in that. How can we serve more? Because if I do the right thing for the right reasons, everything I need will be a byproduct of exactly that, so I think we'll get there. trapped and you know society allows us to have ourselves looking at possessions and then we begin to measure our joy and our abundance in possessions.

I have a friend who is worth $14 billion, how do you spell that? I had to write it. down so you can see it, zeros is good, good, a lot, it's worth 4 billion. I checked my email on my phone before I started and he is on my phone asking me to please come visit me because he is alone, he is rich but he is not abundant, yes. He flew from Canada to come to my house for New Years just to be around people who were celebrating and didn't want anything from them, so don't chase things, chase acts of service and everything you need will come, I promise, if that is. powerful, let's talk about the four facilities, what is this principle? the four EAS that you talk about in your book yes, yes, yes, then, then, I like to divide my life into quadrants and I help my students.

I do a lot of coaching. I do personal. development coaching and professional development and no matter where you come to me, whether you come to me for your personal development or you want to turn your passion into profits in this professional development and business development for entrepreneurs, we go over the four EAS because abundance is Holistic, it is a holistic experience, so the first thing is the enrichment of oneself. You're only going to go as far as you think you're worthy. I can push, you can push, you can, you can have the best product, but if you don't.

You don't feel worthy, you'll work hard to sabotage that relationship, you don't know, you're doing it right, you don't know what you're doing, you just think these are the things I need and you're pushing that guy away. you're pushing that woman away because your self-esteem says they're not going to stay forever anyway or, um, self-esteem around money, you have a limit where you feel like you're worthy of a million dollars, you'll always reach 999,000 and It will stop because your self-esteem says so. So enrichment is number one. What is a good exercise or process that we can follow daily?

Maybe something simple to enhance our absolute enrichment and dignity. I did this for six months, every day, right after finishing. I brush my teeth and it's ICU exercise and you look in the mirror now. It's not necessarily simple because CU you're dealing with yourself, of course, and no matter how complicated you are, it will be the degree. Mechanics. The mechanics are very simple. Yes. I appreciate that distinction. You look in the mirror and complete three different sentences. You want to write this in the first sentence. You look at yourself and say your name. Then you say Louis and complete the S.

I'm proud that you found. seven different things each day to celebrate yourself for seven different each day you can do the same thing you did the day before but each day do seven different things to be proud of the second sentence is g to bring you down a little is GNA come from your gut um LS Te I forgive and cut the shackles to blame shame, guilt, regret and anger in that sentence you cut those five shackles, not on the first day, maybe not on the third day, but by the 21st, by the 13th, You will feel a little relief, so I forgive you and go back five years 15 years 20 years do that, forgive yourself for that thing that no one knows about, but go ahead and cut those shackles because if you can still think about it, it is still in your mind space. energy, yeah, and then the third sentence is Louis.

I could commit to you that before you commit to anyone else throughout the day, you make seven commitments to yourself, so the first sentence is: I'm proud that you're celebrating yourself first. We are under-celebrated as a society, we seek recognition, they interviewed 100 executives who made over a quarter of a million dollars and said, would you like a 5% raise next year or would you prefer to be told more thanks? often one 100% 100% said: keep your money. I prefer to hear thank you, so we're not as celebrated, but first celebrate, be the example when I was on Oprah when she said what are you doing, I said, I recognize that I am the example of how the rest of the world is supposed to treat me and It's my job to give the world the best example of how I like to be treated, so celebrate it, forgive yourself, cut the shackles, and then commit to yourself before you commit to anyone. otherwise, right there, mighty, right there it will begin to fill your cup to reach your saucer.

I love it, where did you start learning? That process was something that you just started practicing yourself and started looking in the mirror and trying different things. and you, boy, asked the question, um, I was in a committed relationship to get married and it became abusive, I was emotionally abused and then, um, he picked me up and threw me three feet across the room and strangled me until I was I fainted. I didn't tell a lot of people that I had PTSD and my mom asked me to go to the doctor, she strongly recommended that I go to the doctor, go to the doctor, wow, and after the evaluation they did in Manhattan Beach. um, my doctor said he was clinically depressed and I asked him how I got here.

That doesn't even fit my name. I was head cheerleader at my high school. I was the captain of the track team. I was the captain of the track team. she was always the person who got people going it didn't fit how I got here I don't know if you've ever caught yourself saying how I got here I was sitting at the table in the doctor's office saying how I got here and when she wrote me the prescription handed me the prescription and I read it and it said Lisa Nichols proac it was like I was looking at a foreign statement my name and Prozac and I asked her I said can I try something for 30? days because I realized that I was just sad I lost myself I had lost myself in him I had lost myself being a mother I had lost myself and being a mother of a son whose father was in prison and trying to hide that shame and then trying to make this happy man and then I started defending my life, I lost myself, so I needed to figure myself out, I needed to remind myself of who I was and then I realized that he wasn't celebrating me, he was punishing me, he was really angry.

He was looking at me and he was appearing to everyone else so I made up these sentences and I did it to rescue myself to turn my crawl into a walk and finally I was able to turn my crawl into a walk and my walk into a run. and I found myself with a sore, but it started out as a crawl, so I don't often say how I got to that exercise unless someone asks me. Thank you very much, my daring, thank you for sharing, yes, open. I learned four things a long time ago, this for me, this is the path to true freedom, I have nothing to prove, mhm, I have nothing to protect, I have nothing to hide and I have nothing to defend, your perception of me after I tell my truth.

It's really none of my business my perception of myself that I go to bed so whole and complete when I wake up before I check how many likes I have on Facebook, likes first and every other like is a bonus, there you go likes It was a long road to get to Long Road, sure, it's a long road, yeah, and we probably have to constantly remind ourselves of it, you know? And then when I get to that place and then when I live like I'm forgetting, you have to have responsibility. Partners hiding in the corners of your life and you have to give them a task on your big day you have to give them a task on your big day if I look like I'm slipping right my ego is in the way get in my face get in my face, get in my face me and remind me of the man of the woman I said I wanted to be, don't let me free from the 2020 version of me because we are human, this will happen while we are breathing we are going to lose integrity at some point come on, your humanity will get in the way your ego or your ladies your sheo is going to get hooked exactly absolutely your resentment you are about your smallness just smallness everything fits into the smallness I am I am human me and that's why I am the best thing I did was keep people around me to hold myself accountable to the woman I said I want to make sure that's great I love it that's why I have a lot of people from the Midwest that work with me on my team and support me and keep me grounded. cameras and dad's headphones exactly exactly absolutely fine enrichment that's the first part uh the second part is enchantment relationships are going to define the quality of your life when you're in your bed and in your last days you'll want to know who it is He'll be close to you .

You won't mind another podcast. You won't mind another sponsor. I won't mind another book. The fucking New York Times. The best thing we care about now is the damn New York Times. The relationships in your life will determine the quality of your life and, therefore, take care of your relationships, that is why, in the abundance book, I now teach you how to heal the broken relationships that matter to you, how to return to the established level. I give you this great um this great tool is called um it's a conversation to heal a broken experience so it's called Communication Letter.

I use it in my business, I use it in my home, and, um, it's just about how I maintain good relationships. and then the third area is commitment, work commitment, you are going to spend so much time at work and we are so emotionally attached to our work and most of the time people are attached in such a depressing way, why would you have that depressing? energy around something that you are going to spend so many hours on, so I teach you how to shift your energy towards your work so that you no longer see it as your work, now it is no longer your jlb like everyone in my community, everyone in my D they no longer say they have a job, they say I have an investor and when you look at your job as an investor and you actually change the name of your investor, yes, and they are investing in your awesome future, they have the ability to buy anything you want . you want for your future if you take care of your money properly, you can buy your freedom and all of a sudden you start treating your investor better and you're more excited to go, in fact, you're grateful, you're grateful for your invitation.

I feel hardworking, my investor was the La Unified School District, which was a tough place when it was a job. I'm just telling you, but as an investor for three and a half years I wrote myself a check and put the financing memo line. my dream I didn't even know what the dream was I wasn't even clear about it I just knew that whatever my dream was it was going to cost some money MH and I needed to pay and I need to have some money to pay and that was I was going to ask other people to They invested in me.

He had to be my first investor. Who am I to ask someone to put money my way when I didn't put money my way correctly, so I want, mom? I wanted someone for them to do it. match just match my investment in me I have 10 in can you put 10? I'm 20 in can you all the way and so when you look at your work, your work commitment as an investor in your impressive life, suddenly there's a different way. energy around it and then the last one is the endowment of money and recognize that more than just the Dr.

Seuss family and the Disney family and the McDonald's family and the Lawrence family wel have a right to a donation when it is understood and trulyI was leaving a little Hole in the Wall restaurant in Los Angeles and this guy ran out after me and said, "Excuse me, pretty, pretty, and I didn't turn around like it's been a long time since my walk ended." He called me cutie excc excuse me excuse me excuse me c shorty cutie call me short he says I'm a producer and we're making a video for Bone Thugs and Harmony uh video wow and we're doing it with excellent sisters, excellent sisters who are What did you call it mature?

Beautiful sisters. That's the old one. Those are the older people. And I said, "Oh, old lady, she goes, no, no, no, mature women like those around 30. I smiled and said, oh, you're so pretty, he says." Would you be interested in being in a video, no honey, but thank you so much for asking, you've made my day, so anyway it's a new season, yeah, I'm enjoying it. I love it. I want to ask you a few. three more questions, yeah, um, first I want to make sure everyone goes and picks up the book, make sure you check this out, we'll have it linked under this as well and the show notes, but get abundance now if you want to have an abundant life.

It's getting spicy now I have to tell you it's great, there are so many things I wanted to ask you here but you shared so many great stories. I had a lot of things marked here that I liked. Balance is a myth. Harmony. It is imperative that the rich think differently about all the different topics you talk about here. To create prosperity, you must create a new relationship with money. I think that will be powerful for a lot of people, so be sure to get this book to learn these principles. Where can we connect with you online before we ask the final three questions?

Yes, I'm in a season where people ask me how I went from public assistance to going public two years ago my company went public, yes, and that's why the big conversation is that you are the second, what is the second African American woman to leave a publicly traded company? That's right, congratulations and the only person in the self-development industry today. being the founder of a public health company, I am grateful, thank you very much, so the big question is how do you go from social assistance to Wall Street, how do you go from public assistance to public trading, which is a big leap and There are two. big things, one, I changed my way of thinking, I picked up a book and that's why I love this book because I wrote it modeling something like the seven habits, like how did I give them?

What did I get? Well, then the second thing was that I went and joined a tribe of people that made me stand on my toes, so I'm doing something pretty good, not crazy. My CFO says it's crazy. I have invested more than $200,000 to put up two. free conferences that you just come to, wow, like there's your book, it's your ticket like that to get in and the way you find out about me online, I would say go join Lisa free.com, ok, join Lisa free.com and there you go. I'll give you access to my website, access to learn about my programs, how you can get training if you want, but I think first and foremost it gives you access to come and be in my presence at no cost, just like if you bought the book. the book asz your pass wait, I love it and then for nine hours we'll talk about how to take the concept into action, like what do you do, that's the benefit, that's the beauty of that day that we go. to get into action like I said, I went to this conference again and again.

I want you to participate in the same process as me because it worked, but what I also love is that I have brought together some of the best people on the planet come together with the right movement mindset to create a community of accountability because I know that when you have a community of accountability you are 80% more likely to follow through with the dream you said you have, of course. and so accountability takes me everywhere and that's why we're going to have accountability groups, accountability communities that we established that day. It's going to be so juicy, so delicious, it's going to be confrontational, it's going to be edgy, it's going to be spicy, it's going to be liberating we are GNA we have crises and breakthroughs it's going to be one of those days I'm coming for your breakthrough I'm not coming to entertain you Although I can be quite entertaining I go for your advance and so I just want to give people what I have, you know, someone said, oh, it's like it's direct and I thought I never thought like that.

I just feel like I'm being responsible with what I know and someone blessed me with this information and then I was blessed by people, people. It poured into me Louis people loved me people saw my light and said: I'm going to help you young lady, I mean, the whites, the blacks, men, women, young, old, older, older people, who had won so much money, they had been so successful, they had been so great. relationship all they wanted to do is help someone else and I was the beneficiary, that's cool, so this is just here, let me show you what they gave me.

I don't know if you'll meet them, you know, and then come play with them. my tribe because they're pretty awesome and I'm excited to be able to let 2,500 people come. I love what the link was for that. Join Lisa for free. She's okay, cool, keyword, awesome, we'll have that L, we'll have that. linked also um okay, three final questions what are you most grateful for in your life recently? Oh, when you say more, you make me have to pick one um. I am very grateful for my new find. Health. Amen. I love it, congratulations. I am very grateful.

Grateful that my body can now keep up with my life purpose, it's great, it's beautiful and it's me. I just have to say this. I would be remiss if I didn't. I am grateful for my 86 year old grandmother who was sitting in the audience last night cheering me on who accompanied me to Jamaica to see me speak who will be out tonight to see me speak again that she is in her right body her right mind capable body a right mind and she is in my life and is able to witness what she helped create it I love it thank you um actually I'm going to add one more question what is something that you do every morning a ritual that you do no matter where you are what is happening what is something that you must do non-negotiable um I find 10 things to be grateful for before my feet hit the ground 10 things and they can't cost money they can't cost money perfect you write them or you just think about them recognize them yes I think about them I say them out loud um I talk to them some days, many days I do 25 but I don't allow myself to move until I have done 10 every day, no matter where I am, sometimes I do it on the plane because I get up very, very early and so if I'm in a crocodile flight and especially if I feel tense and stressed, I go through my gratitude list because gratitude will reduce stress throughout the day, of course, I believe in it every morning.

I do three things. increase it to 10, but every night I always talk it out loud and ask someone what are the three things they are most grateful for during the day and then I will repeat my three things, so I think it's really important. Amen and every six months I ask my son to measure our relationship, that is power, every six months I ask my son on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being incredible, one being non-existent, mom, how is our relationship measured and when does he measure it? next the question is the most important question I say son what would take it from an 8 to a 10 what would take it from a 9 to a 10 what would take it from an S to a 10 every six months that is a very powerful powerful ritual um this is a question i've been asking a lot recently is the last day for you at some point in the future yes all your books have been deleted all the videos that were ever on youtube have disappeared everything you said the secret is gone a long time ago it's been a career for a long time, the secret is a secret exactly, yes, um, and you have all the people you wanted to be there by your side, you are healthy, happy, but it is your last day and they tell you, hey mom, sister , lover, um, everything is a race. you have created but we have a piece of paper and a pen and you can write three truths the three things that you know to be true about what you have experienced in this beautiful world this will be the only thing that gets to remind you of I love this question Three truths from Lisa Nichols What would you say?

What would you write? I love you three truths. I'm not putting you on the spot. I apologize. So what opens up for you right now? I love the place I love the place I love organic I love unrehearsed it's not rehearsed it's much tastier juicier three truths um my three truths would be that you have a thousand second chances and every time you get to 9.99 you get to press reset you get a thousand doovers that would be the number one truth you get a thousand doovers and every 9.99 you can press reset mhm the second truth would be the most valuable asset investment you could ever make and that would be to nurture the people around you who love you because if it is my last day so these faces are the ones that matter the most and these are the people that I somehow invested enough in and gave enough value to for you to bless me with being here on this special. day and then the third make your dash dance make that Dash between your birthday and this day M make that Dash dance make it rock this planet make it No apologies, take no prisoners, play hard if you're going to run, run fast, run hard even at the risk of hitting the wall making your board dance I love it I love it one last question before I ask Lisa I just want to recognize you for a moment for coming and sharing your wisdom and opening up and being present and being loving and committed and for the Constant Work that you have done over the years to not only develop yourself but also to develop many others who are ready for that type of information and transformation, and I recognize you for your ability to come forward and be honest over the last two years about uh. the things that don't serve you, the things that hold you back or overwhelm you and you take them on completely and commit to all areas of your life, always understanding that it is a work in progress and that you will never be perfect Me neither, but I recognize it and take action, even if it is after many years when people wanted you to do it, it is incredible that you have accepted it now and it is seen that you look incredible, you look beautiful and thank you you always have been. so I recognize you for all the work that you continue to do to support so many thanks that I receive, I appreciate that recognition and a final question is what is your definition of greatness.

My definition of greatness is living with the intention of leaving people better than you are. I found them in allowing your breath to appear and possibly be a change agent moment for another person, by giving yourself permission to shine your light so brightly that if someone is in your presence and they might be in a dark time in life, your light illuminate their life long enough for them to see their own possibilities again greatness is about being willing to be used at your highest level of possibility even when it's uncomfortable even when you're unpopular even when you're alone even when it's inconvenient you're still willing to lead and Nichols thanks for coming.

I appreciate it, thank you for inviting me. This is amazing thank you. Hello guys, thank you very much for watching this interview. I hope you enjoyed it. Be sure to share it with your friend. Please leave a comment and like below and we also have many past interviews on this channel so click here to check out past interviews and every week we publish more episodes, inspirational videos and interviews so if you haven't subscribed yet, Click here. to subscribe to this channel again thank you very much for being here and I will see you soon