The COVID Clots: A Full Measure Town Hall

I felt like my body was closing in on me and there was nothing I could do about it. I can determine the day, the time I was when I was running I was exercising and all of a sudden I can't feel my legs I felt terribly dizzy lethargic because I understand I was making a lot of blood

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but they were so small you couldn't detect them What is the treatment he gave you and how are you feeling today he put me on triple anticoagulant therapy in two weeks I felt like I had risen from the dead this is your voice your future

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I'm Cheryl Atkinson for the next hour we will be exploring Leading cutting-edge research on a critically important topic that may impact millions, a worrying number of diseases emerging after

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vaccines or both, sometimes these diseases They occur immediately, but sometimes they arise months or years later, it can be anything from vision problems, brain problems. fog or fatigue to seizures heart attacks or strokes many patients share common stories their doctors can't diagnose what's wrong or can't seem to find a treatment that works in a moment we'll talk to a researcher who is unraveling some of the mysteries that could help be on track for many first we heard from some patients that it's bad down there let me take a look in your eye if there is one person in particular who was the first to set the wheels in motion for Dr.

Jordan Vaughn is Vandiver's chaplain , thanks brother, now it was December 2020, shortly after your coveted vaccines, what were you feeling? I felt terrible, you know, dizzy, lethargic, all that kind of stuff and I was also having some optical problems, vision would get blurry all of a sudden and then maybe a minute or two later. Clarify, you're kind of patient zero for Dr. Vaughn, well that's what he told me, all I did was go get vaccinated and react, so I didn't necessarily do anything special except maybe I feel like a meteor coming from space. that I plopped down near Dr.

Vaughn is an internal medicine specialist and CEO of medical health clinics in Alabama. He did some scans and other tests on Vandiver, his long-time patient, but he didn't find anything abnormal and at that time I did some blood tests and found that he had abnormal clotting problems, he was very short of breath, clotting problems abnormal blood clots were there the whole time says Vaughn just hid from view as I understand he was producing a lot of blood clots but they were so small I couldn't detect them so I treated them. him like he had something that I couldn't quite see, which would be smaller vascular problems and his symptoms improved significantly, so that really prompted me to go on kind of a journey to say what's going on here, there has to be something there.

Dr. Vaughn had already discovered something when we visited his office in Birmingham, he and his team had treated more than 1,100 patients, from teenage athletes to people in their 90s. We asked some of them to talk to us. Yes, Andy Sink 55. had acute greed that required hospitalization Phil Williams was 58 years old is treating my wife for blood clotting. I have congestive heart failure as a result. I had gastrointestinal symptoms and heart problems. Lots of blood clots in my lungs. Well, they report a wide range of debilitating afterward. effects of the coveted covid vaccines or both, some got sick immediately others were hit hard a year or even two years later Hannah Bourgeois I am 39 years old and had difficulty breathing because of covid Dr.

Greg Bourgeois and his wife Hannah, parents of five children, were vaccinated and covered, became so sick that she was almost bedridden for two years. I felt like my body was simply shutting down from me and there was nothing I could do about it after a consultation with the famous Mayo Clinic produced no improvement. Greg Bourgeois a The dermatologist who attended medical school with Dr. Vaughn found out what Vaughn was doing and sought him out to treat his wife. What did he learn that was wrong with you and in layman's terms, if you can explain it to people who don't know everything? the complexities, so I learned that there were a lot of microclots all over my body that were just causing oxygen to not be able to circulate very well.

He was the first doctor that when I went to see him he would finish my sentences by how I felt, so I mean, I think I started crying the first time because that was so new and he understood and he said, you know, it all makes sense, which one? It's the treatment he gave you and how you feel today. He put me on triple anticoagulant therapy and after a couple of days I began to notice some difference, but after two weeks I felt like I had risen from the dead, that is, I recovered my voice, I could walk, I could do things and then see the change was quite dramatic in a way that I personally haven't been able to witness much in my career.

Another doctor who sought Dr. Von's hell is Donald Carmichael, 88, a retired vascular surgeon and former professor of surgery at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, he and his wife Mary Alice, both vaccinated and vaccinated, say they were coveted more than once last time, a near-killer for him. “I thought he wasn't going to survive the night,” said our son, who was friends with Dr. Jordan Bond. You won't take anywhere else but him in the morning. His treatment basically brought him back to full health and he was so dizzy I thought he had lost his mind. There are also young athletes.

The case of Braden, 15 years old, a little bewildered. Doctors for two years have seen him here suddenly collapsing on the court after covid after seeing Dr. Vaughn. He has improved so much that he is back playing again. Nineteen-year-old runner Ellen Redinger hopes for a similar recovery. She is also a patient of Dr. Vaughn. after getting vaccinated, being coveted and getting seriously ill. I mean, I can determine the day, the time that I was when I was running, I was working out and all of a sudden I can't feel my legs. I can not feel. I mean, my heart rate is increasing. 200.

I can't do it, I call my dad, I think I finished exercising and I can't, I can't do it and I was like three four months feeling terrible, you had to give up. running obviously for a period of time and I mean I can't do any type of exercise. I can go for a walk, but it has to be like a short little walk for a short period of time and if I ever do it. I feel like all I can do the next day is go to bed. Dr. Jordan Vaughn joins us now, he is the doctor treating the patients we just heard about.

Not only are you the CEO of Physician Aid Clinics in Alabama, but you have also started a new Foundation dedicated to this work, the Microvascular Research Foundation. First of all, briefly, you are an internal medicine doctor, right? How did you arrive at this line of research? I mean, I think at first I was trying to figure out this new disease, obviously. uh an upper respiratory tract infection is what they called it in a lot of ways, but it was causing a lot of other dysfunctions and I think just diving in and trying to figure that out was the reason I got into acute covid and trying to figure that out. how did that happen, but after conquering acute covid, which in itself is not necessarily beatable, has a lot of clots and a lot of respiratory dysfunction that has to do with the vascular side of the respiratory tree, um, I started to see a lot of patients who continue to have problems and that I really, again, have an engineering background.

I'm kind of a former internal medicine doctor who really wants to learn and know how to know what's best for you and like that research. started to come through the literature started to look like something that maybe we could look at to be clear, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these things I'm trying to summarize what we call persistent long covid lesions after coveting infection and what some now call long vaccines, which are lesions that persist after vaccination or arise months or years later, they may have similarities, so people may think I didn't get vaccinated.

I don't have the problem or I got vaccinated, but I didn't have problems right away, all of these people can be affected exactly and I think the fundamental pathogen and we'll probably talk about this a lot tonight is the spike protein and in fact what caused The vaccine is something that can also cause major problems because, again, the Spike protein itself is what is unique, it is what causes the damage and it is what it's really the pathogenic mechanism of this virus and unfortunately, I guess the powers that be chose to use that same Spike protein in In fact, it's a preconformational way to vaccinate the population, so you get it either way, you get it with an infection coveted or, if you are vaccinated, your body is told to produce this problematic Spike protein, exactly us.

We'll talk more about the science in a few minutes, but tonight we'll be taking some questions from viewers in this town hall, so let's do the first one from Beverly, she says: I received the Pfizer vaccines and boosters. I lost my sense of smell because of some people. I also experience a lot of coughing due to greed, especially at night. Could I have clotting problems? Yeah, actually, it's one of the places that's probably most dense for the angiotensin receptor, which is what The Spike protein relates to the sustenicular cells in your nose, okay, please speak English, so, yeah, and again, much of your ability to smell, as well as inhale and exhale, depends on small glasses. working properly and if the small vessels are full of abnormal fibrin and basically, what I would say, fouls the system, the system doesn't work well, even things initially like cough, cough is a symptom that a lot of people have and it's related to something what is happening. in the lungs now we normally always associate it with respiratory tract infection, but it can also be a sign that your lungs are trying to get rid of something on the vascular side, it could also be that it is repairing itself many times afterwards. -Infectious cough is not necessarily something that is spreading something, but rather it is a sign that something is happening in the lungs and especially in the lung parenchyma.

Can you summarize why, in fairly simple terms, we think so many people put on respirators early? died and why basically doctors and years stopped doing it after a while, so the initial thought was that this was a typical type of acute respiratory illness and in that case, actually a lot of the damage is done in the actual part of the respiratory tract. your lungs, but the other part of your lungs is just as important, if not more, where the vascular system interacts with that airway and that's where the damage occurred with covid and especially one of my mentors out of South Africa in June ​of 2020 said we are barking up the wrong tree, he said it is a vascular problem, not the airways, and he was right, and then one of the worst things you can do to someone with a regular vascular problem of the lungs is to increase the pressure in the lungs because you're just going to close more vessels with the respirator with a ventilator exactly and that's why most of the bad outcomes I mean basically in many ways a ventilator was a death sentence and The other thing about the clotting was the only thing that was kind of a sign for us: a lot of people who were already on anticoagulants or antiplatelets were the people who survived the hospitalization.

Those are typically not the healthiest people in a population, but for some reason there was some protective effect that it offered them, so there's something about blood thinners, anticoagulants, or that's a subset, so people who They were on blood thinners to begin with, they weren't so healthy at first, sometimes they had better results after covid and people were trying to explain why that was. could be exactly yes and I think that's one of the things that many times you have an observation in medicine that leads you to ask a question because generally the people you meet are more morbid in a certain sense, they had more medical conditions and when it was necessary to be taking blood thinners in the first place, why did they have better results?

And the answer was that the pathology of the disease itself was related to clotting, which is why people are frustrated. I know I've heard from many of them that they feel something is wrong. go to a doctor, the doctor can't see what's wrong with them because they look at the scans and it looks normal or they know something is wrong but they can't figure out what's wrong or treat it properlyeffective. Many of these people have found their solution. For you, what did you find and how are you treating these patients in a way that other doctors couldn't?

A lot of this has to do, first of all, with listening to the patient and knowing what she was like. before and I think he was one of the first people I treated, as you've probably seen in some of these videos, there are a lot of athletes and the athletes and the young people, it's pretty easy to discern that they've had a big change. on their overall health because all of a sudden they were exercising and being quite active and now they can't so I can't just explain it now that someone gets a little older, it's a lot easier for a doctor to move on and Well, you might be getting older and sorry I can't do anything about it but the reality is it affects everyone if they have it and it inhibits the ability of oxygen to reach the tissues and nothing will work right if the oxygen doesn't. getting to those tissues from the brain to the vestibular system balance hearing to the way the heart works in a sense even how the body recovers from exercise here is a problem I see young people or people without pre-existing health conditions who know that something something is wrong after they have coveted and they can't get better or they suddenly get sicker or after they have been vaccinated and they know something is wrong there are a lot of people out there There are people who may have gotten older or not in full health before all this and they may have something that is somehow treatable or fixable, but they overlook it because they believe this is just part of what happens to them as they age or in their pre-normal state. -Existing conditions, yes, and I think that's true, and as much as the patients we show here are awake and active, some of my best stories, I think, are of people 84 to 86 years old who don't have to go to an assisted living home or go to a nursing home because they can no longer take care of themselves, instead they get healthy and live the last years of their lives without being dependent and those are some of the best things I get from your spouse. when they realize, hey, we have, we have, just like Dr.

Carmichael got it back and you've seen quite a few young athletes in those cases, I think they may be the most obvious cases because they understand their bodies and they know that something is wrong even if they have I've been to doctors who can't exactly find anything in the scans and the one metaphor I always like to use and I think I've used it before talking to you Cheryl is that it's almost like you're standing in the shower at home and nothing comes out. shower head and you called a plumber and the plumber comes to your house and digs up your front yard and tells you the water line is open why you called me and I think that's where medicine is that a lot of the things that What doctors do these days is really dependent on being able to have a yes or no diagnosis and a lot of the diagnostic equipment that we have doesn't get down to the small vessel level and isn't really able to tell us what's really going on at the tissue level, so just because the water stays on doesn't mean you can still shower, very interesting, our full Town Hall will continue after a short break, we'll have more from Dr.

Vaughn. and we're also bringing in another second researcher who has made some enlightening findings that might help you, so let him stay with us. Many doctors still live in the pre-covid world, where everything is in the textbooks, but when you have a syndrome that comes before you and it turns out to be associated with this new pathogen that everyone seems to have been in contact with, You have to open your eyes, open your ears and also read the literature and try to find out what the What the hell is going on in the national office a network of almost 4,000 local journalists cover the news of the United States and now they are leaving the city frustrated by the crime and homelessness.

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town hall special covid clots here's an explanation of some of the science behind the discoveries we we are talking about and why so many have lingering mysteries Health problems after covid and covid vaccines together. Vaughn and his small team are unraveling some of the emerging mysteries that, for some reason, have become taboo to discuss in some practices, especially when you intersect with vaccine adverse events, as I always say, it's almost as if there were two worlds. there is a before covid and an after covid and many doctors still live in the pre covid world where everything is in the textbook, but when you have a syndrome that comes before you and it turns out to be associated with this new pathogen that everyone seems to have. been in contact you have to open your eyes, open your ears and also get into the literature and try to figure out what the hell is going on, people Vaughn believes he has discovered why people who have had both covid and the covid vaccines a They often seem to make the sickest sicker and it has to do with what is seen in these immunofluorescent images.

Something called fibrin, so we're designed to make fiber and fibrin, one of the first types of response mechanisms, forms a clot if you're injured, yeah. It's like the trauma of infection, all that kind of stuff, you're going to produce fibrin in response to that, but the fibrin you normally produce is again like spaghetti that just came out of the colander, but the fibrin you produce in response to a protein spike that is associated with greed and vaccine is kind of like burnt spaghetti with cheese where you have to get a Brillo pad and pull it out of the bottom of a saucepan and in that sense that's why it's so unique, it's literally tough everyone when they are exposed to the spike protein because of the vaccine or infection, they are going to produce some of this amyloid fibrin, the question is who can get rid of them and if you can't get rid of them. they muddy up the small vessels and inhibit the delivery of substrates and those are things like red blood cells that carry oxygen and in that case, you can't get oxygen to the tissues, you're going to have significant dysfunction at all levels, Dr.

Vaughn. is based on emerging research, and some of the research is confirming its own conclusions Yale researchers recently reported that lingering symptoms after vaccination with long-term vaccines are similar to those reported with long-covid Science magazine writes that a rare link between coronavirus vaccines and a long-coveted similar disease begins to gain acceptance According to the CDC, Covid vaccines instruct a patient's cells to produce the same Spike protein that is in Covid. This small RNA sequence, when injected into the muscle, initiates the production of Spike proteins, even though the proteins some scientists say are now apparently causing damage through microclots months or years later.

In December 2020, in a chilling foreshadowing from a Harvard-affiliated pediatric specialist, in a letter to the FDA just before the first vaccines hit the market, Dr. Patrick Whelan wrote that it appears that the viral Spike protein created after the vaccines against covid is also one of the key agents. causing damage to distant organs, called for more research and warned that it would be much worse if hundreds of millions of people suffered lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or small vessels of hard microvasculature as an unwanted effect of the vaccines and I think The side The positive of this is that we are really going to start to understand what is happening there at the tissue level.

Basically, you are not getting oxygen to the tissues. Those tissues can be anything from your brain to your vision to your ability to drink. Take a deep breath until you get to whether you can run or do other things and the problem is that when something affects all systems, it's not a little bit different to address it and you need someone who can put the pieces of The puzzle is put together today. Vaughn and his team are fielding requests for help from as far away as Germany, conducting original research and sharing what they're learning. I speak to groups of a couple hundred doctors about every two months.

I even have roundtables at night on Zoom with a group of doctors who are interested in what we are doing, many people who really care about their patients have realized that whatever they are doing is not working and we have to find a way to help. They joined me and Dr. Vaughn from Med Health Clinics is Dr. Pierre Corey, he is a critical care physician and founder of another independent clinical treatment center called Leading Edge Clinic. He is also president and medical director of the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance. Thank you. for joining us now while Dr.

Vaughn was making his discoveries with his patients, did you find similar things with your patients? Yes absolutely. I mean, you know I started the pandemic in the ICU and in fact one of the first articles I wrote in April 2020 was actually on hypercoagulability or the strong propensity to form clots and this occurs in the most severe forms of acute covid These patients with prolonged or covert vaccinations are extremely complex, but as Dr. Vaughn has identified with his colleagues, we understand that the Coagulation problems are one of the main causes of pathogenicity or, you know, the pathogen is something that causes disease or symptoms and that is the main factor. but I will say that this syndrome is really complex, there are a number of other dysregulated systems that have been triggered by the spike protein, including a dysregulated immune system, which could also be related to a lack of proper blood flow and then beyond that, you know clotting problems, even clotting problems, are complex because one of the things we notice, and I happen to be an expert on the drug called ivermectin, is that red blood cells tend to clump together, there's a receptor that gets activated. . through the spout and you see these clumps of red blood cells, which is not a common problem that we've seen in medicine and ivermectin actually dissipates those clumps and, as Dr.

Vaughn was saying, the blood sludge and the poor flow blood in the microvasculature, which can be the root of so many different symptoms, we see a number of different agents that can improve it, but they all actually act on the sediment of the blood and the clumping of the cells. Okay, so this is a good time to ask you another question from one of our Ken viewers. This is Iver Becton. He tells why the FDA drug companies so vehemently thwarted ivermectin and other known treatments when hundreds of doctors believe they worked and were blocked every time. yeah, I'm going to try to keep the answer short because it's a long answer, but you know, I would say ivermect and what happened.

Ivermectin is not new, repurposed, safe, off-patent drugs have long been attacked by the pharmaceutical industry because they threaten profit potential, well let me interact and say, isn't it true that with a new virus, a path accepted scientific is to find a drug that is already in use and reuse it? It's faster than creating a new one, that would be the pragmatic approach. Well, the problem with that pragmatic approach is that it threatens profits, not only threatens the profits of the new drugs that they had planned, you know, things like paxlovein and mole Napierville, but also the entire global vaccination campaign, which was the response prior to a pandemic like this is that it was always decided, even before it broke out, that what was needed was a global vaccination campaign to end this pandemic and whether the efficacy of ivermectin had been understood and identified and recognized by the EU emergency authorization for young people for vaccines could never have been administered, requires the fact that there is no alternative therapy.

Yeah, I don't think people fully understand that if there is something that can treat a virus like this that is effective, then there can't be. an emergency use of a vaccine, so if hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin had been found to be effective from the beginning, that would mean I guess the government really couldn't or shouldn't approve vaccines on an emergency basis, that's exactly it right, that was the biggest threat of it, they would have done it legally, they couldn't have done that, you can't, you can't approve something under emergency when it's not an emergency, there is an effective therapy available, so you couldn't take those risks .

Dr. Vaughn, people are watching today and wondering. If you know anyone or if they have any of theseproblems, what are some treatments that can be done? I'm sure each case may be a little different, but what are the general treatments you are finding that may work? I'm going to ask Dr. Corey in case there is a difference, so a lot of what I do is research the clotting issue, so a lot of this really addresses two things, one is that platelets and Platelets are part of you, you know if you had to. Look at these things that form some kind of complexes.

Think of platelets as bricks and fibrin as mortar, so you address both problems and tip the body toward fibrinolysis, which is a fancy word for getting rid of it. this mud and that's what I normally do now. I will say there are a lot of things that have been very helpful, just things like aspirin, things like nattokinase seropeptase that have fibrinolytic properties that are found in foods and other health supplements that we have. I've had for a long time those are things that I use as well and therefore a lot of what Pierre and I basically use is a combination of things, a combination in a good way to address the different areas that the body, but Dr.

Corey does People have gone to their doctor and the doctors looked and said, I don't see any clots in the blood and I know people who were told this who ended up with microdrapes that I guess couldn't be seen. . His advice: If someone feels like they've reached a dead end, they really can't keep going to their doctor and harping on their doctors, how would you recommend they get treatment and what kind of treatments do they need? Yeah, I mean I addressed that problem for the first time. because it is really distressing for a patient. You know, the challenge with the syndrome is that many of the traditional standard tests don't reveal an abnormality, but patients are still very sick and so they are looking for solutions to what we know.

You really know that I want to make a call. I really think that we need a new specialty and one that studies the disease of what I would call Spike apathy because it is not only the cotton coagulation problems, but other pathophysiological processes are also triggered, which is why I address beyond coagulation. a number of other things that I found effective, for example, I'll just list some of the mechanisms that we know, so macrophages, which is one of the immune cells that is activated to become hyperactive, we also have another immune cell called a mast cell. and all of them, many of them, develop mast cell activation syndrome, which can actually be triggered by clotting.

We see a lot of mitochondrial issues, that's what makes all the energy for cells to stay functional, so I address things that suppress macrophages. activity suppresses mast cell activity Ivermectin has so many mechanisms that in my experience it is the most effective drug, meaning I get a positive response in the highest proportion of patients on ivermectin, it is not for everyone. I would say that in my practice, about 70 percent of patients are. Those who respond to ivermectin, some very large responses, others much more modest, but it has been shown to be a very effective drug. Another is low-dose naltrexone, which also has several immunomodulatory properties and patients find great benefits in many of their nerve pain, sometimes fatigue, and brain pain. fog and then we also use things that suppress mast cells, so they are common medications like antihistamines, like Claritin and Zyrtec and then Pepcid, which also blocks histamine, and then we use things that stabilize mast cells, some medications that are a little less common such as ketotaphin.

And what I'm left with in many patients is that I can make them better, but it takes sequential therapeutic trials and sometimes their medication lists will increase and if you look at the history of the disease, actually, what for a long time was covered in Long Grass is almost identical to a long-described disease called myelologic encephalitis or chronic fatigue syndrome and if you look at the literature on that and look at the treatments over decades, it is very understudied, it is not a Se They have made a lot of advances in Therapeutics, but you tend to see long lists of things that have worked and this is what I discovered that in the treatment of these patients is that almost everything I use works in some percentage, nothing is a hundred percent and sometimes Sometimes I see two patients, they present identical medications and it works very well in the first patient and it doesn't work well at all, so it's very difficult to understand what the predominant mechanism is that triggers their symptoms, so sometimes it really is.

Essays, but I'll tell you, what else God? We use safe medications that have been used for a long time and have excellent safety profiles. I put them in rehearsals. I have an idea of ​​when I should see a benefit and if not, get rid of it and we'll try something else, but I'm trying to ease the suffering and I have to tell you that we usually have consistent successes, but sometimes it takes quite a few tries. Alright, fascinating, stay where you are because when we get back to In this full town hall we'll hear more from one of Dr.

Vaughn's patients who is making a remarkable recovery and also from a pediatrician who foresaw many of these problems, but his warnings to the government They fell on deaf ears at my worst moment. "I really could." I didn't get out of bed much. We had five kids, so I was doing what I had to do to keep going, but I felt terrible all the time and was in bed most of the time. Yes, welcome to everything. m Cheryl Atkinson for eight seasons The Sunday morning must-see for easy reporting I'm Cheryl Atkinson and Cube The controversies involving questions about relations with the United States to the top Have you been told to expect to be questioned around the world in London, Zamboanga and Pennsylvania?

Amish Country adding context to your world The border patrol never closes, sleeps or stops. This is the story of a wife, mother of five, who suddenly saw her life change overnight and saw her health slowly and surely disintegrate over time. In this your voice, your future. Town Hall in full, we're talking about the Covid clots some patients are experiencing after the coveted vaccines and the search for answers with so many people suffering from mystery illnesses joining me. Dr. Jordan Vaughn and Dr. Pierre Corey are now patient Hannah Bourgeois. and her husband, Dr. Gregory Bourgeois and Dr.

Patrick Whelan of the UCLA School of Medicine in the Department of Pediatrics. Dr. Whelan and all of you, thank you for joining us. I'm going to start with you outside of this block to ask you about a letter that I discovered you had written when the FDA was considering approving the initial vaccines and it seems to me that it now serves as a prescient warning of what really happened. Can you summarize what you wrote and what kind of response you received from the FDA? In November 2020 I chaired a session at our annual meeting of the American College of Rheumatology and it was about vascular problems related to greed, so in the Pediatric clinics we began to see patients who had purple toes and it was called coveted or greedy vasculopathy and there were about a thousand rheumatologists who showed up online for this session that I chaired and I came to appreciate, as we worked on the information that we presented that day, that the material that was being used for the modern and Pfizer vaccines is exactly the same.

Which causes all the tissue damage associated with greed itself and when I started looking into it deeper it seemed to me that this was something that wasn't being widely discussed so just as a point of comparison let's say we were going to develop a tetanus vaccine For example, we would not take tetanus toxin and apply it to people to protect them against tetanus, but we would inactivate it first and call it tetanus toxoid, but in this case the coveted vaccines were themselves the beginning. of the disease itself and there are a lot of things we could talk about, you know, regarding the uniqueness of this virus and the challenges that the vaccine scientists faced, but basically I tried to put down in writing some concerns that I had on the day former. from the first FDA hearing to evaluate whether the Pfizer vaccine should be licensed and basically never heard from the FDA.

I mean, if I understand, if I understand correctly, you basically said beforehand what we know now is the case that you saw that there could be these vascular problems or the problems with what they call the small microvasculature and that if the vaccines were approved and widely used Without answering some of these questions, that could be kind of a disaster. I was especially concerned about childcare and you know. I knew there was going to be a big push to try to get vaccines out as quickly as possible and help restore the economy. It's easy to understand why there was that push, but I was hoping, and I think many of my colleagues were hoping, that there would be a very robust regimen for tracking all vaccinated patients, and eventually I joined an epidemiology group that published a paper about this last year in Vacine magazine in August 2022 and we had the opportunity.

We actually went back and looked at all the data from the Moderna and Pfizer trials, the data from the initial trial, and finally came up with an estimate of the frequency of serious adverse events and how common they were, so it turned out that they were quite common. . one in every 800 vaccinated individuals developed some type of adverse event according to what was called the Brighton collaborative criteria, which were a set of criteria that were recognized by the World Health Organization from the beginning of the epidemic based on what were. Looking at Chinese hospitalized patients, we took those criteria, went back and looked at the available clinical trial data from Pfizer or Moderna and basically showed that, especially, the Pfizer vaccine was associated with many more serious adverse events than were recognized in the press releases that were produced. right at the beginning of your campaign, it's interesting that you say that because two experts or doctors told me personally these words that vaccines have no side effects and I knew just from my report that all medicines have side effects, so when I tell you things So, you wonder if my doctor doesn't know what he's talking about or for some reason they've decided not to tell us the whole story, which upsets Hannah and Dr.

Greg Bourgeois. Hannah, you've talked about what sounds like a really remarkable recovery, how you're practically bedridden, you've been to the Mayo Clinic, you couldn't get help, and after being treated for a fairly short period of time with Dr. Vaughn, You got out of bed and walked in. I heard you were Walking not long ago when you hear these warnings that were given by Dr. Whelan some time ago, what does it make you think about? Well, I try not to think about it and move on, but I know there were a lot of things we did. I don't know, since it was a pandemic with a new virus, at least as far as I understand it, but I think what I've appreciated about Dr.

Vaughn and the research that he's done is that as we learn new things about it, we can change opinions about it and we can, you know, look at what we didn't understand at first and try to understand it better and not just stick to one opinion, so that would have been maybe my hope if I had watched Dr. Greg again. Bourgeois, being a doctor, I know that some of this was at least evident to some people a couple of years ago and perhaps it could have been known if we had been a little more careful not to doubt everything, certainly everyone.

I was in an emergency situation trying to find something that would work, but to hear Dr. Whelan say that he saw this evidence, what makes you think that, Dr. Whelan, I wish I had read your response to the FDA and then looked like so many doctors ? I was thinking this was going to save us from the pandemic with a new technology in terms of this mRNA vaccine, what I don't think we realized at the time is that literally giving the body just a part of the virus and asking it to produced it, it would actually cause disease, we didn't know, but there were people like Dr.

Whelan, others who saw warning signs and again, like Hannah, just said we have to learn from what happened. Thank you, it's great to know that Hannah is on the path to Better Health again and I saw and heard many stories like that when I visited Dr. Jordan Vaughn for my full action report, we will be back at this town action meeting in a moment complete with practical information to help if you or someone you know may be suffering from long-term greed or long-term back disease, you know, he comes and says, wow, you're making blood clots and I don't know why and that, but because I told him I had the vaccine and I felt bad. obviously he was saying it was about vaccines the national office a network of almost 4,000 local journalists cover theAmerica news now could be a matter of life or death the national bureau covers our nation locally You're not going to prevent every train accident, but you can make them less likely to capture the pulse of America.

I'm Jan Jeffcoat, I pick up US news now every weekday morning from the national desk. I mean, my heart rate is going to 200. I can't do it and I went. for like three four months feeling terrible and then we close after that we come back with the covid clots a special your vote your future City Council complete the young lady we just heard from another of your patients an athlete briefly how is she? She's been doing it since you treated her. It's very nice. In fact, she ended up having one of the Venus problems that we discovered, which has to do with pelvic venous congestion and compression of the iliac vein, and in fact, it's all related to spiders.

The Spike protein damaged the vasculature that he had and it opened up again and, actually, his father is the coach at Samford University, which is in Birmingham, and he's running again, he's not running at TCU because he had to go back to running. home after the vaccine, but since then. She's back to running and her life back, which is incredibly good news. A couple of questions from Evelyn, she says she had coveted in April 2021 and I guess I'll ask Dr. Corey first, she says I still have long term covet issues to stay. tired headaches out of nowhere and severe hair loss, how long will the symptoms last?

Oh, it depends, it really depends on the treatment and the responses to the treatment, but you know, for the patients, you know, a lot of the patients have chronic illnesses, you know, it's really a syndrome is a constellation of symptoms that develop in association. temporary with greed or the vaccine and the cardinal symptom of this syndrome is actually fatigue with what is called post-exertional malaise, which is that when patients try to exert themselves, their fatigue only increases. They often have to be in bed for days and their other symptoms get worse and then a certain amount of brain fog, those are the three things I see in almost all of my chronically ill patients and then they come with a whole side list of symptoms, you knows how long it will last.

We've had patients who make a full recovery, but if you look at the history of chronic fatigue syndrome, actually only about five percent make a full recovery, but what we're trying to do is try to improve their functioning. Because functioning is really healthy, you try to get them as close as possible to their previous level of functioning and I'm very pleased with some of the responses that we've received or many of the responses and I tell you that 'relearning more every day, as Dr. . Vaughn, we collaborate, we share ideas. I mean, we have a rich network of colleagues and I would say that every day we are getting better at treating these patients and I think the future is bright if you continue to do this work Hannah Bourgeois, have you been treated now, God, it's been going on for a few months, tell us how long and how it goes.

I met Dr. Vaughn in August 2022, so it's been over a year and he put me on triple anticoagulant therapy and immediately after, within two weeks, I felt like a new person, he gave me my life back. I could breathe, I could talk, I could walk, I could walk to my mailbox, um, yeah, I think right after I would have told you I was 100 while I was trying to do more, it was probably 75 to 80 percent better, but in comparison With the 10 to 15 percent that I felt I was living on, Maxine gave me life. Another question, she says: I'll give this to Dr.

Vaughn. Do vaccines cause nerve damage when I take long walks? My foot tingles and I lose my balance. I never had this problem until I got the vaccine, so I mean there are definitely ways the vaccine removes the protein. can cause nerve damage, but in many ways part of the nerve damage that we call small fiber neuropathy can often be related to what we would say lack of oxygen in the tissues themselves and I think that, in addition, many times The lower extremities we're trying to figure out now have to do with not getting good venous return, obviously your heart needs blood to pump when you demand it to pump and it's one thing to have a good cardiac output, but a good cardiac output without a good Cardiac input will make you feel pretty bad and that's one of the things we've found, especially in the lower extremities, that a lot of this tingling neuropathy, even in Hannah, would probably tell you that you're going to Mayo.

Get a neurological exam and the neurological exam itself is not revealing so it has to be something different and that's what we found Dr. Whelan with all the talk of another booster being approved plus and more coveted, More recommendations, what would you say to your pediatrician? their patients about what recommendations they make. I think it's a very confusing time and if it can be a little brief, I also have another question I'd like to address. I think we need to recognize that vaccines have done enormous good. uh, as a whole, I myself cared for many coveted patients, including patients who died, and there are different subpopulations that are especially susceptible to the virus among pediatric patients, basically obese children are by far the most susceptible group and then immunocompromised children, so the new vaccines worry me, the ones approved today by the FDA because Pfizer only released them, they have only done animal studies and Moderna has only analyzed data from 100 people, so I think it is not clear if this new range of vaccines It's going to work. be the answer but I think there are definitely some people who would benefit a lot from getting vaccinated and you know I've mentioned who they are thank you very much and for the people who want help because they just don't know where to go to places online they both have each one a website.

Can you give me 10 15 seconds? Someone is looking for answers or something to show their doctor at home. What would they say so that we know the basis on which we had the microvascular system? Research Foundation I think it will be something to really go and get data. Unfortunately, my overall ability to care for people is limited due to time in general, but I hope, first of all, that patients will inform you a little. into your own hands and try to figure this out and try to get help to find a doctor who cares about you and knows you because then they will notice the difference and hopefully they will be able to help you and I think Pierre is a good example of someone who Mode stepped up and started doing it even more in just a few seconds, what can someone do if their doctor may mean well but doesn't understand where the resources are?

I would take the doctor to my nonprofit website, which is flccc.net, and go to the irecover protocol. It's not so much a protocol as it is a good guide to mechanistically based therapies that we know work and then it's up to the doctor. start treating but we give a lot of information on how they can approach their patients and help them. Are you telling your patients that you simply recommend individually whether they should get vaccinated with a new booster or not? What is your well-being in the first place? I think, as Dr. Whalen pointed out, I mean, I think in the modern there are 50 people in one and 50 in the other, they didn't.

I even want to say that all people received the bivalent or the monovalent. I mean, to me, that study itself is inadequate to evaluate safety and efficacy, not so far, so yeah, until there's better data, I'm going to go. much stronger, these vaccines have unleashed a humanitarian catastrophe, they have been ineffective, they are the most, this is the most toxic protein I have studied and it has unleashed an epidemic of chronic diseases and I would not recommend any other coveted vaccine that uses On this platform, We have all given ourselves a lot to think about. You've done some really important research that I hope serves as a resource for everyone looking for answers.

I fear that more and more people will have to deal with this, so thank you very much to all our guests and I hope that the information we have included here will help many people to feel confident that we will continue to follow this important topic. A quick reminder that we have begun our ninth season. Full Measure, my original investigative reporting program that airs every Sunday on this Sinclair station. Check the weather in your local listings and thanks for watching the Covid plots. Special full measure town hall, thank you.