Supra Vs Supra - 2.0L vs 3.0L - Which is Better? | Everyday Driver

I keep thinking about how lucky we are to have this opportunity and to have Toyota super tritium, the new six-cylinder and the new four-cylinder, but we have them at the same time, back to back, on the same road where we can. Do something honestly that most people watching will never have the opportunity to do. You are absolutely right and thanks to Toyota for sending these two cars together, so what we have decided to do is find our stretch of road that has curves and that has straights. and both Todd and I started in a Supra and drove the whole stretch down and back and then we swapped cars, jumped in the car right after the other and immediately felt the same curves we just drove through, the ferry and the trees are so close that I really think there are differences, sure there are differences between the 6040, yes, but they are so close that I really think that unless you have this back-to-back opportunity, it will be very difficult to notice the differences that we are going to have.

Let's analyze the other difference. Let's talk about this. The 6-cylinder has more power in its second year of production. The 20/20 had a measly 330 horsepower,

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by the way, every time someone tested that car, it was way over. 335 and the antenna said the same car was 385 for the second year we have more power 382 horsepower and it's like three more pound-feet of torque it's three hundred sixty-eight thousand four yeah the point is over 350 on both numbers now according to the factory, but when you consider the fact that these appear to be listed below, this is a tremendously powerful Garmin and Toyota not only updated the published numbers so that they now match what we believe was the actual number that I really thought based on the last one posted. number without making any mechanical changes because in fact they made mechanical changes yes to the engine, there are updates and refinements and they have indicated to us without revealing anything that they will continue to improve things and bring out new things and there will be more goodness.

In the future we can open a company, organize, let's see, we will see, but they have just indicated that things continue to progress and that is demonstrated in this three-liter Supra, yes, there is a man, the exhaust manifold is different, the pistons are different and has a lower compression, but you. end up with forty-seven horsepower plus again like three pound-feet of torque, you won't know it, but there are people who died knowing and then these VIN numbers on the sheet, yeah, exactly right. I hope people die knowing that it will still be above the I imagine they claim that accessories have always been a much faster car than people think.

Toyota put on sandbags this afternoon too or even put on sandbags at a gloomy pace. This is the separate note of the association with BMW because we know that you have been last known. probably a decade of their number is never as high as the car feels or appears to be nine owned by others, right, I think that carries over here to this Toyota product, not that obviously we ended up with more power, it would have been a new complaint, no. this was already almost a four second zero to sixty car, now they have broken the four second barrier, this is a lot faster than people think and I think it's faster than the numbers, yes it feels faster powerful again, let's take everything.

Let's take the numbers, take the people who die knowing and what's on the Toyota sheet, it just feels fast, you think it feels, but more so than the 2042, initially it's not a takeoff, but if you keep your foot on it and above five, you think well. that's a newfound power and it pushes you into the seat harder and you go, it's like the difference between a Cessna and a Learjet, I guess just that house, I guess that's the difference between the two liter and the of three later, but stay, that's

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, yes. The world is coming at you faster and I feel like it's okay, where's the power?

Oh, that's no, I don't remember, I don't remember that well, but again, that's why we have the three liter with the two liter. I know how to make this comparison consecutively, but I feel like I feel more power and I really do. Don't know. I don't know if there's really a big change from 20/20 in power delivery, but I mean, I know it's supposed to exist, but I think the cars have been running fast in both versions, but anyway I mean that you really have to stomp on it and get into it, yeah, and once you get it right, there's more power like that, so really.

The interior changes quickly as an aside unless you get the new 91 edition oh yeah the accent is just cool it's a really cool new blue color those are new things on the a91 edition but essentially it's the same car as it was last year. the interior won't change, it's the styling, no, that's fine, nor did we expect that many cars don't change, you know, 12 years, it's the 40th anniversary car and the 50th anniversary car, unless someone does, I don't know who. We're talking principles, but yes, there are no changes to the interior,

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is fine, although the smaller screen that was in the lower 2020 supermodel is rejected and gone, they all have the largest screen in all the cars, so which is great, still not huge.

It's not about bringing everything forward inside, which is the other thing they did in the changes that surprised me. Toyota told us that they are considering this 3 liter as the track car variant if you are not a The person who is actually going to track your car thinks you need the 2 later, ok yeah so they are looking at this 3 liter being the track car and as a result they put some new aluminum strut tower mounts in the front and too. In doing so, changes are made to the engine, they're still looking for that 50/50 weight balance in this car and the quartet, yeah that's super total, so they're trying...they're removing parts which we'll talk about on the four cylinder they are still trying to maintain that 50/50 weight distribution which is very interesting, this car is like 3 pounds heavier than before but it is a 3400 pound car and I have a lot of grunt to motivate it, don't I? . well, it's pulled, it has tons of power, yes, what draws my attention a lot about this engine and I feel it mainly during the verses, the 4 cylinder is the immediacy, okay, while this is a 6 cylinder in line BMW and yes it is turbocharged and obviously everyone. - they are slightly different turbos there is nothing to expect for impressive power in this car that there is no there is nothing to recover you are right there is nothing about give me a moment while I find your power sir, it is only here for a To a large extent all the time, I see it's funny when I had my 928 that was 3500 pounds and I thought, well this is kind of a 3500 pound lightweight GT car, so 3400 doesn't sound out of the ordinary to me, it doesn't sound like wow.

You know, 38, 4,000 pounds and what a pig, you know, okay, it's got a lot of power, it doesn't sound like that to me and it drives hard. I come from light cars, yes, I feel more robustness, robustness, you can feel a little. a bit more weight, but then it's immediately overtaken by everything else Toyota has done and by the way, Toyota is solely responsible for all the chassis tuning for all the supers, just no one else, it's a toy. 34 pounds is a lot of weight, but at least At the same time, in modern sports cars that's pretty average, so we're in a very competitive place that's very average and comparable to almost anyone else making a sports car in this moment of this level of approximately $50,000.

You know, those kind of cars are the First time I'm writing in the passenger seat this is cool, it's very exciting, it has a head-up display that's not on the screen for someone to tell me how much I'm accelerating, so that It's happening too, you know. It's a lot more when you don't have to drive, you just notice the dynamics a lot more, it's the immediacy of the power here that's the main difference between us and the four-cylinder and I feel like this felt wickedly powerful in the 2020. I don't feel like there's much of a difference, but again I feel like they're on the really high end, well that's where that power would be revealed.

I mean, there's no excited torque changes with the four. cylinder to discuss the two because it's interesting how this feels his work was robust this feels heavier bigger more robust even in the bandwidth on the bad road, but I guess a robust robot yeah okay because it's still alert and it still spins immediately. It's still crisp and delicious, so the weight is relative to what the performance gives you. I feel very stable, as I say, very rigid and with a suspension very equivalent to that of modern sports cars. Modern sports cars are all in this weight area.

As much as I wish they were lighter, they really are and now this is the same steering rack, it's the same gearbox and then you go to the four cylinder or you can look at the six cylinder from last year, all those parts are the same, but what is it? What's happening here in these engines has been tuned, I mean, they've been given more than treatment, which they've done, but these engines have been tuned, but everything else is pretty much the same. They changed the programming on the electric power steering. I also like that differential because it's an e. -diff yes, while the 2 liter has a classic mechanical differential, I now understand that the DDF can generate power.

I understand that it introduces that unknown variable of whether the system calculated correctly and there were discussions in the 2020 versions about sometimes the heat, if not. operating exactly the same no, we are not on a track and according to your curve, yours, yes, that's why, because let's be honest, the brain is deciding what the differential should be. I'm sure that introduces an unknown variable of what this should do. I know what I mean and the mechanical differential will be the same every time you turn the corner in 2020, sometimes there were question marks, that mole that didn't always operate the safe, we're not on the track, I can't. check I don't know but this one also has the adaptive shock absorbers and that kind of thing that makes it a more versatile car.

It surprises me with those adaptive shock absorbers. This is not supposed to be a Gran Turismo because it can be changed. It may be very good, but again, this is the most focused track and what we're doing is comparing sensory inputs because yes, the wheelbase is the same, the chassis is the same, they're different parts, but like Todd said, the different tuning in the parts, so the algorithms have changed in the steering, it is the same relationship between the two cars, but it has been changed a little, as you mentioned on the electronic differential in the steering rack, so there are small changes to address those little problems, so that's what I mean.

When car manufacturers constantly work and update, the parts may be the same, but they work a little differently, they work more together based on usage alone, based on customer feedback, they constantly update that they have blueprints. -out told us at Supra that they're going to do something a little different and special each calendar year to keep this interesting. Now my question is what does that do to the person who bought one last year, but the thing I'm excited about is when I said that. I'll say it again when you say something like that. I think a manual is coming, but we'll see, we don't know at this point, it still has 8 speed ef and it's the same transmission on both cars, so now for the two liter, you've heard of this, the shifts, the subtleties of the 3-liter, we need to drive the 2-liter, a 2021 Supra now with less, you know, less weight, yes. yeah okay let's start right there okay the two liter is 220 pounds lighter than the 3 liter.

Awesome, now that's not coming. I want to post this that does not come from the engine change. The engine changes there, but the big one. The thing about the 4 cylinder is that they removed things and tried to keep a 50/50 weight distribution, meaning 200 came out of the nose. The preconceived notion is that they took out the six cylinder and put in the four. almost right somewhere in the engine bay, okay I just mounted it there and we're fine, that's not what they did, the 2 liter has now effectively created a genuine front mid engine car, it's not that interesting because the 2 liters is now completely behind the front axle, there is a huge air gap between the front of the engine and the back of the radiator, yes you can see it, you can look down and see the electric power steering rack, so This is a different dynamic car in terms of having a front mid-engine, it's not just a front-engine car, yes, but you have to keep in mind, as Todd has said, that the goal of every Supra is to have a balanced front weight. to the rear, a 50/50 weight balance, so to achieve this by taking a weight out of the nose and pushing the engine well to the rear, they had to balance it in the rear as well, meaning the 2 liter doesn't have the differential asset.

It's true that he has LSD. The steeds of Masseria Nabela imitate the cars of children who aspire to an LSD I. I totally agree. I'd take the mechanical limits, Luther. I would prefer you to have them becauseI will say that even though they are manual seats, they still have electronic bolsters, yes, and lumbar support, so they are actually fantastic seats, we have covered them a significant distance in the two liter model. and we are very impressed that you can't go wrong with either car. The good news is that Toyota is making super, they are going to make more variations and they are good.

We are waiting for a manual. Come on, yes, come on, yes, I want, I can get. a bigger mentalist if you have any of these super GTS Super GT s