2020 Toyota Supra vs BMW Z4 M40i // Attack Of The Clones

Yeah, no, no, I thought the deodorant companies were wrong. I've been spraying it on the outside of my shirt the whole time. Oh wait, I think James is home with his new Supra. I have to go, how was he the first day? with the Supra, trash calls cool, but on my way home ten people said nice BMW, what is this? You got a letter in the mail, yes, in the mail, yes, there is no mailing address and it is clearly your handwriting, no, how about you are looking at the accelerator house? I'm Thomas and I'm James and these are two totally different cars, let's do it oh yeah I know I have yours oh yeah we've all heard the story and the terribly overused jokes that this Toyota isn't actually a Toyota . not at all, it's just a rebadged BMW, yes the Supra has a BMW engine, but the chassis itself was designed jointly by the two manufacturers and once the basic structures were finished the manufacturers said they needed to tune and perfect their own cars in their own way, so if that's it.

In that case, this shouldn't just be an alternative book to the Cayman Islands situation, they should feel like different cars, so while they both have a BMW inline 6-cylinder engine with a twin-scroll turbocharger The said 4 has 382 horsepower, while the Supra has 335. And 4 less foot-pounds of torque and fewer feet may not seem like much, but that's the difference between a dog and a snake. Thanks for that James, but some dyno results have shown even higher numbers and in a drag race we've seen it. the Supra beat the BMW so today while we all go for a 0-60 test we're interested in which of these is more fun and which is better value after all the z4 we're testing today is the Spector $20,000 more Canadian. than the Supra, if you're new to the throttle, we do car reviews, track testing, and a lot of gaming, so subscribe and ring the bells.

Supra said for m40 I or Z 4, depending on where you are, we have been living. with these calls for a week, so the first turning runs have been track runs, we will discuss how they are different and what it has been like to live with this has the b-58 engine, the same engines in the Supra, but it has more horsepower, there are a lot of things I like about this car and there are a lot of things I don't like, let's start with the good things. I love the engine and the transmission, the whole transmission, the whole straight line experience of this car is Fantastic, it revs really hard up to 6500 RPM and the torque is pretentious, it's fantastic and it makes a really good noise so I know the Engines, chassis and many of the components are exactly the same, but let's have a little more.

Very funny, let's do a 0 to 60 test. Okay, before we start this 0 to 100 kilometers per hour test, you should know that these were real world tests and were individually timed, so if they don't line up perfectly here, that It's just the video we made. The multiple runs on the results were very consistent, but these numbers are close enough that there is no difference, that was really interesting, but you know, either way, at least they both have six cylinders in the turbocharger, so we have 335 horsepower and 365 pound-feet of torque and that torque is available to you from 1600 rpm.

There's so much usable power in this car and it's not so much that you can't use it on the road, this on the road is a joy and That's something I give it a lot of credit for, so it weighs about 3400 pounds, I mean. 600 pounds more than a Toyota 86, but it has a lower center of gravity and shorter wheelbase, rides lighter than it is, and gets a lot of criticism. for not having enough power, but if you step on the floor of this car to spin the rear wheels and it sounds excellent, the sound in the cabin is incredible as you always hang in the gears and it explodes like crazy when decelerating like an F type. but if you want you can shut the hell up with comfort mode, which is a mode I've barely used this week because this car gives you so much more in sport mode, this makes a lot of pops and explosions in sport mode when upshifting.

It kind of clumps and gurgles a little when downshifting. It's a really exciting exhaust and I think it's basically exactly the same as the Supra. James doesn't seem to think so, so you think you can tell the difference between the exhausts. Absolutely possibilities are different cars like this, this meme that they're the same car and have the same engine, you know, different tunes and different things, enough that the exhaust sounds different, well, tie this around your face, the accelerator sponsored brand, okay, okay. Turn around, well if I'm Tony, what's the point of applying the bulletin? You realize, I think it's okay, you're going to stay here, okay, you have no idea what car you're near right now, don't move, I'm off to a good start.

We're fine, it's fine, don't move, it's fine, I have no idea, it's fine, which is which is the latest Supra, yes, you're right, yes, and for your consideration, but as good as the sound is, there is a big problem with this car. I lived with both windows down at speeds over 70 kilometers per hour, that bump is crazy, completely unsustainable and that really bothers me because I love traveling with the windows down so it ruins the high speed experience in this car yeah you want the wind to come in. Your face, the steering on this car is really on center, there's nothing here, but as soon as you load it into a corner like this, you feel the weight and it's fun, it's quite lively, but where this car wins is in the cruise refinement with it when you fill it up, it's so quiet that there's an obvious extra layer of insulation right here and on the road, you can have a conversation and then you put the top down and it's still quiet, if a Miata is up here on the road , said four are below. on the road the steering on this car has a pretty weighted action, it has a really good feel on center, there's not a lot of numbness in the middle, so on the road it's easier to live with because it's not as twitchy on the center, which is why it feels so great.

Tourer or better, but on back roads like this, the front end grip is excellent, the cornering is wonderful, the car is lively, it's fun, it's stiff, the way it corners communicates to me and the puffy exhaust adds such theater level to this. As aggressive a car as it looks from the outside, I've only honked at someone once in this car and that's not because the Toronto drivers were good, it's because when I beat someone they laughed at me, I'm actually going to call Thomas below, I have to show you this little thing. Okay, you stopped me so he could hear something.

Yes, the exhaust may sound good, but everything is so embarrassing if it sounds like some kids put that thing on the first trumpet. Okay, hey, just wait. that's ridiculous that's embarrassing listen to mine this is totally different ready it's okay not to call home that's a car horn yeah, back on the road okay okay now the biggest problem I have with this car and actually It's a very big problem is that there is something. The strange thing about the damping is like it doesn't match the springs correctly in comfort mode on the straight, okay, it makes a little movement from side to side, but when you come to a corner , if the curve is not perfectly smooth.

There's a ton of grip on the pavement and what it does when it starts to reach the traction limit is it translates horizontal motion into vertical motion and you get this bounce on this cut and it's tremendously annoying and then in sport mode while you're around the corner you just cuts through the bumps it's really very strange the way it does it doesn't feel buttoned down the car feels stiff but well damped I feel really in control and in normal mode I'm surprised how livable this car is, the handling of the 86 is a lot harder if they found it in a manual, yes absolutely, and there are rumors that they might, but both cars today have the ZF 8 speed gearbox that I have become friends with.

Basically I like it, I have loved living with this car, it is very fun to drive and somehow I have nine point five liters per hundred kilometers and fuel economy that is really good, so both cars have the m electronic differential. I guess that's how it would be. It's not called an M differential on the Supra, but they both have LS DS, which means that in a straight line, if you let off the brake and hit the gas, you can power the rear wheels up and in a corner, accelerating too much means you have softness. . electric oversteer on both cars, so I want to drive James' Supra to find out how these cars like the details of the differences, but before we do we have to talk about the styling.

I love the way it drives. What about the style? That's where it falls a little bit. Well, first of all, this car has gotten more attention than any car I've ever driven, and I'm trying to think of a sub-$200,000 car that's ever gotten this much attention. It may be a bit of hype, although I think the i8 is the last car to get this, but really on the road list I had a completely Kirby kid with me, completely what Kirby was when people stopped me, so I had children who stopped me. Some people followed me on the road to try to get close to me and even some police officers stopped to talk to me.

It's the police. The police didn't stop you because they wanted to talk about style. was that was for something else moving forward yeah so I think the back is awesome this is the best part of the right here is like that it borrows perfectly from the ft-1 concept yeah this giant thing that like hip that hip It's so good though Yeah, let's just say there are a lot of fake butts, sister, there's like six of them and I don't know why there are so many. This entire panel is stuck, yes, dedicated to this fake vent, it's absolutely bizarre and not acceptable, this should be posted. pressure on the hood like that, I don't know why it's strange and also the wheels, the chrome looks like 80's Miami and it's not a good way, okay this doesn't attract attention on the road, not really, actually , it's such a beautiful red. both paint jobs are amazing, this nitro yellow is great, you know, the color is lovely and the styling is well proportioned, it's very much a Zed because it has a muscle, it pulls off the Zed very well because it's real, it's real.

I like this kidney grill. It's not ridiculous like some BMW kidney grilles that are happening right now, but honestly, though otherwise this doesn't really inspire that, look at that kind of thing, no, I mean, it's okay, it looks good, obviously It's a roadster, but people. Don't turn your head at this car, so I mean it's okay, I mean, but it achieves a grand touring sports roadster. I think it seems like no, it seems like it. I agree, I seem to agree, interior, this is Supra, okay, super interior, yes, now first thing. you'll hit and you'll probably be able to see this is dark, very dark, yes, very Camaro, actually very low, yes, the visibility is a little better than the Camaro, but it goes down quite a bit, yes, on the side, the rear of a The Mazda 3 hatches exactly right, yes, for a helmet, although this would be better for the track and there is no lower center of gravity in the sunroof, so you have room for a helmet, obviously, yes, okay , the rest of this is this BMW in its all-BMW, ​​but it's the last one.

BMW generation, which means I like it more, yes, you like this hard drive. I like it, I like the old one. I drive better. How does Apple Carplay work, albeit intermittently? Yes, so it's not what you yourself have. I have a similar story. I think why. Call Plate became brave and stopped asking if it should and simply if it could be okay. The materials here are not super stellar, sixty-five thousand. Also, my only place I can put my elbow here is in a pair. Yes, everyone complains. about that that's a little strange it's a little strange yes this real carbon fiber although yes and the seats seem very comfortable to me they're actually not too narrow for me which is a nice steering wheel what do you think it's a crime?

Although unacceptable, that doesn't look good enough. Why is it like this? Why is the airbag so great for safety? And that's not as big of a problem as I make it with this plastic-filled thing. Yes, when there is a gap, it creates the What we have is much more premium, yes, and yet I love the gauge cluster, yes, at night when you can't see any of the plastics, it's such a screen beautiful, yes, although you see that negative space, yes, you know it's useful as warnings. it just thinks you're too close to the car in front or a door that's all as far as I've been able to tell it's pretty silly yes they could have done something funnier than yes but I have a head-up display which is pretty nice oh nice okay I like the JBL sound system okay yeah I'm not sure it's worth the 65 grand you can pay here but hey that's nice go to the driver you want to see.

What does it look like inside? What can cost eighty thousand dollars? Okay, new generation BMW S. I refuse to check this interioragain, James, I refuse, that's fair, I don't know why, do you know why? Because he is just like everyone else. yes this is the same climate control same knobs like the only difference between this and the m8 50 is this is not a crystal shifter on crystal knobs and a crystal well they are still turning up the volume , but the rest is absolutely tentacle, except This is a smaller version of the gauge coaster which I don't like so I have to look at it.

Also, Apple Carplay doesn't work, it will appear a little bit gone and then I have to reconnect and read, delete everything, it is absolutely necessary. go into something else that only has a normal plug-in car plate if you want, yes, the materials are very good, everything is wonderful. Where are those extra 20 thousand? Yeah, everything is very well built, although it's very solid, you know, the seats are very comfortable, really nice, the sound system is solid and there's more color here. Yes, the refinement levels are really good. Also see how. quick, this soft table is the comfort of Thirteen, well, oh wait, no, sorry, I hit the handbrake because they are exactly the same button there, activated very quickly, yes, and a bit like that couple made ten seconds , ten seconds, that's really good, let's put it? that opens back up now so we can continue talking look where the cup holders are explain it to me oh that's annoying explain that to me the wall here yeah how do you use them?

So if you have a cup, you can do it quietly. I don't drink drinks in my car. I always do, it was coffee or something. It's just ridiculous, how can you drive a fake roaster with coffee? Otherwise it's fine, visibility is excellent, it's a soft table. I like it here, yeah, it's okay, she said. for the m40 obviously I normally have the roof down but for the sake of the camera on the microphone I can't, but now this car is more enjoyable and probably the biggest advantage over the Supra is that it feels more like a BMW when drive it immediately. a weight for the car although it's not it's not heavier it feels smoother more reserved say you're a Supra in a straight line it doesn't feel as fast as I said four but you'll never hear me complain that I never refer to the maximum top speed, I mean more about the experience of driving it and right away I can tell you that it feels much more like a sports car and I guess that is the point essentially, this car greatly succeeds in being the Z Version of the m3 40 Vivo recently driven I have found several destinations, each one I must launch the destiny, please, thank you, maybe I can be, but I can't, no, it's okay, it's much more lively, the direction in the center is better than the four mentioned.

I don't like the steering wheel as much as I said four, but it feels very crisp on the noise, it's sharper, everything about this car is a little sharper than the four mentioned, so it's definitely intended for cruising, which I guess which makes sense, it's easy to conclude that this is a gentlemen's sports cruiser, the price is high and this one is completely designed for Specht, so I personally enjoyed the Supra more because, for me, if I was going to buy a Roadster. Miata is always the answer, although its level of refinement with the roof up is that it feels like a regular hardtop car, whereas the Miata is not.

I really like this engine and the ZF 8 speed transmission is very very fast, I wish? I had a manual, yes, obviously I do, and so does everyone else. When you go from manual mode, you downshift, you hear pops and thumps and the upshifts are incredibly fast, the damping is a little choppy, like I said, but it's not as dynamic, it's a different setup internet experience from the Supra, where They were wrong and it's just a BMW. It hasn't been my real life experience with the Supra. Everyone who has seen it has loved it and driving it is an absolute pleasure.

The numbers are just noise, otherwise I now know these cars share components. I know they share a platform and an engine, but when you drive them they are different, they have been tuned differently. You have to believe us on that, stop calling this BMW because it's literally not yes. It has BMW written on the ignition coils, I understand that, but as an experience it's different which one I would choose, the Supra, and I think it's $65,000, it actually makes sense to me. I heard that in America they are giving crazy margins of $30,000. I won't be buying it for that and in terms of how it's set up and the overall experience of driving it, I'd take this Supra any day of the week, maybe it's because it's the most exotic looking car this side of $65k or maybe Whether it's because it really was a pleasure to drive and live with for the week, the Supra was the obvious choice for both of us.

I think a lot of that comes down to the fact that there's a gap in sports car options between something like a BRZ on the lower end and a Porsche, a hole the Supra feels pretty good about and if the rumors are true and there are a third sports car headed to the

toyota

lineup, so my votes for an mr2, for now, although i can't. Imagine someone being disappointed with their new Supra, how about that CA Corvette? Shh