Post Office lawyer's "attempt at an apology" from Horizon IT inquiry

uh, you say or give the impression that you acted appropriately and in accordance with your professional duties at all times, correct, that was certainly my intention and my effort. I don't think you'd identify that any other person did anything wrong. I don't think that's my role to judge, it's not necessarily judging, it's maybe talking about the behavior of others without judging them, but that's right, don't you in your 137 pages identify that someone else did it? anything wrong other than inadvertently omitting the sentence in the deoe report uh well um no I don't think I did that in my witness statement No I don't think so and you don't offer any

apology

to the sub

post

masters in your witness statement uh , I certainly have tried in the first paragraph, well, let's look at sorry, third paragraph, let's look at the

attempt

, um, so, it's paragraph three on page two, uh, yeah, let's read it for ourselves, was that the

attempt

to

apology

you were referring to uh yes will you offer deep regret for the damage caused by the events rather than the damage caused to the subpoost Masters by people or the damage caused to the subpoost Masters by people at the

post

office

or even the harm caused to them by the post

office

you offer you are sorry that events cause harm to people, is it not true that people do not cause harm to them? um is that as far as you were prepared to go and it was my attempt to summarize what is a pretty big undertaking in itself, I probably thought about this carefully in this paragraph, right? eh, well, I hope so.

Yes, I thought carefully about most of it. I hope I have thought through my entire statement carefully, but yes, this is important. I think that's why we're here and that's why. As far as you are willing to go Express your regret that events cause harm to people I mean, I will go far, say if I have caused harm to anyone. I'm deeply sorry, that's not why, but I repeat, you haven't done it. identified in your statement that you have caused harm to someone or done something wrong, have you um uh no, you don't identify any Reflections or things that should have been done differently, huh?

I tried to respond to the rule and request I had Sorry I didn't, we ask people if they have any other thoughts they would like to give. I conclude with Affliction, let's look at paragraph 255 on page 131, this is the part of the statement where people address the question Do you have? any other Thoughts or things you want to say an open question and you say that you regret that the various processes intended to resolve the postmaster's civil law complaints have not achieved that resolution and you hope it happens soon is that your only reflection and it's actually I I think it's important because it's not the only one.

I think there is another one, but this has gone on for a long time and I can certainly only speak for myself, but I would never have wanted this to have gone on this long. for everyone involved um, I think at the beginning, so let's go back to paragraph three. I'm kind of saying I hope this process helps people find closure and I'm going to say I hope, I hope I'm personally okay too, thank you, thank you for that, can we? Take that off the screen and examine a number of issues before looking at the substance.