Joe Rogan & Steve Rinella on Neanderthals

I wished I had a little more of that floating around in me, it's a strange inheritance. You know, the idea that there was a different type of human that grew up with Homo sapiens and that there are little fragments floating around in people, yeah. and people argue about them, people argue. I was having a discussion that day where they were saying NAND or high or Neanderthal and everyone grows up saying that and the earth, everything is one of those things that you're supposed to change once you realize how you're supposed to change. Get it right Neanderthal I'm just not comfortable with it.

I go from one place to another. There are many words that like that word. I know you're supposed to, but I can't get comfortable with it because I feel like it. It makes you sound pretentious, it does, it's like taking out the R and certain words in Spanish, but we have this idea that the Neanderthals were not successful, right there are these brutal thugs that are extinct, but they have a 600,000 year career, yeah , in Europe. only 600 thousand years longer than Homo sapiens has actually existed yeah yeah so whatever it is I don't know if we're going to hit like I don't know if we're going to match up and have that race well we'll probably have a 23andme to whatever is behind us things look like someone back then a human like oh one of those crazy warmongers you can rapists thieves of humans turns out to be extinct, turns out they weren't completely extinct invaded by emotions and lies and they someone someone from a superior race infiltrated humans and fucked one of them, yeah, it's fun to see that understanding of those, that understanding of those people, um and then have the sight to imagine it in your mind even though you can't.

Imagine it like this. what you saw when they were connecting someone, you know, anatomically, with a kind of behavior, modern humans were connecting with Neanderthals, that's how their peers perceive it. I bet the people we considered people back then like you. I know George, the animal. Steele is not a Georgia animal. Steele is a very famous professional wrestler from back in the day and I thought you'd say he was a paleontologist or anthropologist. The Rattler. He has arrested a professional wrestler. A very famous guy who could legitimately be a caveman. he could be a caveman I don't see if you have a good picture of them now this is what I think of when I think of people now give me a full body one there you go oh when I think of people he clings to a Homo sapiens Homo sapiens from 200 thousand ago years, I think George, the Steele animal, I think there was something like that, so the idea of ​​George in the Neanderthal chick is not that far off.

I think our ideas like that, like Dan Rather's, would be out there fucking a monkey. Lady, I just don't think, I don't think that's the case, look at George's body, I mean, Jesus Christ, he has the hairiest shoulders I've ever seen on a man, is he still alive? I don't know, I don't believe him. I hope he's not listening right now. I do not think it is. He's a legend in the world of professional wrestling, so it's going to take more than this to hurt his feelings. That guy doesn't care, yeah he's a legend, but when?

I was with a kid in high school, he's an old fart, yeah, he's good, those guys, all of them, that's a tough way to make a living, so he died at 79. He now he had a good career, yeah, it's a good career for those guys. It's a difficult way to make a living, but they told us that the idea of ​​Neanderthals is like having a confrontational hunting style, no, no, like we have, because when anthropologists look at the skeletal remains of Neanderthals they see this kind of set of this. pattern of injuries on them and a researcher was looking at the types of fractures that they have in their bones and where the fractures occurred and similar breaks and cracks and their skulls he was looking at all of this and ended up working with a doctor who had a lot of exposure to horse riders rodeo, bull riders and the doctor was looking at the way that set of injuries affected rodeo riders a lot, the types of breaks in the location of the brakes and this guy has the idea that they had a me like. a very conflictive hunting style that is like mixing it with large animals and another thing they found is that when you look at skeletal remains of primitive people you still see that separation in the sexes, just in the sense that males suffered wounds with a greater prevalence than women, but with the Neanderthals it seems that they did not have that kind of duplication of roles mmm, many of the women have the same prevalence of these types of injuries, so maybe they did not have them.

We have that they didn't share that division of labor where the females were as big as the males, yeah, I don't know the answer to that, so we know they had stone tools, crude stone tools, yeah, but we don't know. Whether or not they had something that could launch them like they didn't, what do we know if they had Spears? I don't think they figured out they had a sucker, did they? and I don't know if they were handling materials but they were making, they were making art and I think there's a bit of debate about whether they were making representational art but they were making art, they were making probably they were making jewelry and it's just that these are all things that like Custom that we wake up and realize what these people were really like and it paints a more complicated picture, there was even the address.

I don't know if it stayed in the water for how long it was in fashion, but you had this really long. story of an extremely long history of hundreds of thousands of years of Neanderthal occupation in Europe and then I thought I remember someone put forward this idea that there seemed to be a flowering of advancement that was contemporary with the arrival of our own ancestors in Europe as if they were exhibiting or seeing art and seeing jewelry and imitating this of these new invaders that were coming, but I don't know where that idea is at the moment, I don't know if it has dissipated. because other discoveries remember something that was an interesting idea, which then paints this really sad picture, that they would be in the fall, you know of his existence, and here he is, decked out, showing up with these amazing tool kits and everything. these skills and a kind of fight to start catching up, you know, it would be like the redneck you know going to the big city and yeah, well, there was this idea too.

I think that until very recently, Neanderthals were not as violent as humans. like Homo sapiens, but now there was an article that was published just a couple of days ago that new evidence shows that Neanderthals like boarding schools and the violence between them was as bad as that of homo sapiens, yes, and I find it like evidence of cannibalism, oh yeah, there It was a lot of that right scraping of the inside of skulls indicative of tools Oh, the ad blocker was broken, they get this every time with the ad blocker, yeah, it was the saying that humans are as violent as Neanderthals, are you familiar with the writer John mu alum no?

I would like his material, yes, he wrote a really beautiful article about Neanderthals, not long ago. Okay, I understand what they're saying is that modern humans were just as prone to violence as Neanderthals. No. I have a problem. I think I'm combining this with something else I read about interspecies violence on Earth and on Earth. They all refer to Neanderthal violence. The other thing that's strange about them is that they had bigger brains in us, their bigger brains and he's five foot two and weighs 200 pounds, he's just a little gorilla, you know, it would be cool to see.

There's a really silly theory that was floating around a few years ago. It was very funny about how we wiped each other out, we assumed. than Neanderthals because you don't have soft tissue samples, we assume that Neanderthals looked like humans, but because of the very different shape of their skull, this guy had, instead of giving them white, European-looking skin, the turned into a gorilla. giant muscular gorilla that ate people and this was like I think heaven wasn't actually it's actually he was a professor and it seemed almost silly at first you remember this champion, we took him out several times as the neanderthal killer Theory, I think that called her, but yeah, she had drawn this black thing like a gorilla with giant muscles all over it and these big crazy eyes and that painting of Neanderthals as predators of humans and that's why we took it down, yeah, yeah, but my limitations, see how it says my limitations as an anthropologist.

I'm certainly not an anthropologist at all, just a guy who's interested in it, but one of my limitations is that I'll listen to theories that float around well and don't follow them long enough. to see which ones have some traction, I'll just read about them and I don't take it as gospel, but I'll read it and say it's interesting and it kind of shaped my understanding of it, but then I don't keep track of it like really try to follow the history of the peopling of the Americas, so when it comes to the human history of the Western Hemisphere, I kind of follow and I like the ideas.

They come out and I'll follow the idea to see where it lands in terms of academic consensus, but there are other things like with the Neanderthals. I'm always a fan of Neanderthal stories, but I don't follow what ideas that come up are very quickly denounced as complete rubbish hmm, yeah, it's strange, you know, it takes time to follow these things, go to that other photo, that It's what they are, them and us, yes, but look at some of their images look at that image on the cover of the book like that the idea there are some much better there are some much better images what they drew of the full body ones that they had it's in the article this was a link to this show website from a different article just go to that and then go to images because there was something really strange, yeah there's a top left corner, this is what this guy, yeah, He laughs, whatever's going on, that's not making art, right?

I don't think so, no, he's making the flesh man, yes, yes, it's quite absurd, but the Neanderthals didn't have fangs like that, no, no, but it turns out that he is transforming and the Neanderthal became a gorilla I was trying to do down here, oh, that's a ha. okay, gorilla monkey and the end, but yeah, but like oh, he has his growls with his teeth that eat vegetables anyway, it's, uh, and then there's the do we even know what those Deneuve Ians are? How do you say that word? The one from Russia, yes. They have no idea what they look like, not like pinky bones and you know they have that one, that's not that one, I don't know.