Joe Rogan Experience #1488 - Andrew Schulz

Serial killers on Netflix, all that kind of stuff, right, yeah, and I'm like, are there serial killers elsewhere? Why do we have it here? or they have it in London. in Paris like the ripper, well, jack the ripper, and then after that, I don't think there was much tape, like I think he did it and then there's no more tape, I don't know and then I like it and then she says this and she just says honestly, I think it was all the acid and I'm like, what do you mean she says? Well, they were doing all these drugs in the '60s and '70s and also in the '80s, they just started kind of destroying women and it's just all these serial killers that come out of nowhere and I'm like, well, you know what the people who experimented with Ted Kaczynski the Unabomber and didn't talk about it in the Netflix documentary of Of course, Netflix documentary, they briefly mentioned that about drugs, they use just the random word drugs, yeah or the general word drugs, yeah , but he was part of the Harvard LSD experiments, yes, he was part of these, these. and he talked about the psychological experiments they did where they destroyed him for three years, but he was already a little crazy to begin with and then they were with him for three years and probably force-fed him acid. a lot of people there was something called operation climax of midnight that they did back then where they ran houses, they ran brothels but they don't even hide it, it's the most obvious name for the cube, well the other one was mk ultra.

Um, that's the one I heard about the mind control experiments, yeah, but one part of mk ultra was the midnight climax operation and they did it in San Francisco, plus the same people that were involved in that clinic were also involved and they would make these brothels and then they would hire these women to come in and have sex with these guys and they would give them acid so these guys would come in thinking they were going to have some sex, then they would have a drink for the best sex and they would be taking acid just by doing them stumble and then they would just do experiments on these guys, what are you going to do? tell people you know tell people you went to a brothel they drugged you really is what happened is what really happened this is my question to you, let's say we're in charge of building a nation or whatever I mean, let's say we are a deep state, a deep state, and we are tasked with keeping the United States on top by any means necessary.

This is a good argument. Okay, yes, you and I do justice to our families, to our children, it all depends on us developing the best. Well, I don't want to use the term cool but more effective weapons of manipulation to maintain our status in the world and thanks to that we can live. the lives we can live and if we don't there are other countries that are doing exactly the same thing and the moment we slip they are going to prove us right. Would you go that far? Would you go so far as to do this kind of thing, the correct answer is obviously no, but if you knew that the same experiment was happening in China right now and by the time they realized they were going to find ways to manipulate the future powers and then the next trip A political politician ends up in China, suddenly they are sprayed with something, now they are controlled.

I don't know exactly what the arguments are for accepting some kind of new world order or accepting some kind of controlling Tolterra totalitarian regime. the people in the same way that China controls the people because otherwise we can't compete with them, continues China has this connection between the big companies and corporations in China and the military and the government, they are all connected, it's one thing, there are not two things. It's not like you have a business and then there's the government, no, your business is part of the government, if you want a Huawei, you're hand in hand with the Chinese government, the only way the United States is going to compete is if we introduce things here the way they handle things there because they can take shortcuts they take risks they have mass surveillance on their people that way it keeps things running better and well they also have greed tracking we need to track you we need to track you put a chat business put a chip in your hands not a chip we don't need a chip you have your phone you're not going to leave that alone yes it's true they never never need a chip exactly you don't need a chip just give it make it addicted to a game question don't you think are we right?

That's the Chinese government, Chinese government, yeah, I've been killing it with tick-tock faces, well, I'm not going to lie, I have to show you that I have some good ones, but uh. Uh, okay, here's the thing, don't you think we're already there? Let me clarify. Do you really think that Google is not sitting down with the US government and the US government is not going to go and we are going to need access to all of that, I mean, we will pretend that you are operating alone, but everyone knows what time it is, I'm sure they do and Google sat down with the Chinese government and the censorship argument there was that yes, aren't they going to just steal our intellectual property and just remake Google in a Chinese forum?

We need to work with them. Well, you don't need to do anything. Google, you want to work with them. No, no, we need to do it. We don't have enough money because what we don't have we need more we need more money I just think I wonder that even like with elon even with elon it's like if you reach a certain level you must have look if I'm the guy, if I'm deep in the state, I would know that we have this smart South African guy right and he can come up with anything he can do, this is all cool and I'll say, "Okay, yeah, bring him here and he'll say, okay." maybe I want to go, you know, sell something to Saudi Arabia and I'll tell him you might not do it right, yeah, and he's like, yeah, as simple as that, and he says I'm going to go on Joe Rogan's podcast and smoke grass with you.

We're like do whatever you want, we don't care about stock prices, I'm just wondering if the exchange is hey we need some cool rockets, we need some cool ones and if you have any ideas, throw them out. them our way first what are those network agreements? first right of refusal development no no development remember like first right of refusal is a me if you build some of this fire we look at it first if we don't like to sell to Saudi Arabia but we'll see, we have it first and if we ever need some real dope , you do it now.

What is the exchange? If you want to keep your factory open during Covet, you can do so. I think he has a lot of influence and they do. he realized his law was stupid, this was stupid, but most places are still closed and he said, "I'll stay open" and then the government said, "Okay, you're open, why are you up ?", because I need to become the state of California. government because other governments were allowing it to open, so this is not a deep state, this is like a state-to-state thing because it could have so much influence. Hello, everyone come here of course, yes, yes, and we have oil, yes, and I'll still let you do it.

There are states that were willing to let him rock, but wouldn't you do that? Wouldn't you do it like a Bezos? Wouldn't you go? Hey guys, operate, I guess I'm trying to say that there's some kind of structure in America where deep down you're powerless and it sucks and you're barely surviving you make some money you're good your life is good but you're still attached to your job you need to do that in order to survive, you get into the millions, 10 million, 100 million, and you really have freedom, and the moment you get to the billions, you knock on the door, where it's like you have a lot.

I have a lot of stuff and we're going to need to have some conversations about how you use it and the people you talk to and the deals you make because you have too much power like I'm in shock like I have been for years. I was even surprised with this platform. I wonder how there is a guy who can talk to everyone and the US government isn't watching you and they have drones everywhere watching the show. It's like anyone can understand it. Oh, that's a good point, you're not hiding, no, that's like there's freedom in exposing, yes, you really can be free if you give.

Also, I'm a cage fighting commentator, dude, what if you're deep state? That was really your smokescreen. Imagine if you got really good at these things just so you could be a deep state, the problem is that's not how people get good at things, you get things without motivation, you could never compete with guys who really try, Yeah. You have to be very hardworking and then they bring you to the island and give you videos. Do you think I have a question about MMA for you? Ok, why do we keep hearing about things that pay poorly? Well, right now in particular, there's probably less money because the fighters have for um, no gate, no live gate, yeah, there's no live gate and that's an extreme amount of money, but there are also fighters that took certain deals, they agreed to like an eight fight x amount per fight deal and then they get more popular and then they want to renegotiate their deal, yeah, and the UFC is like, look, we're just trying to stay open, yeah, we're not going to renegotiate anything. , so they say you might take it or you might leave it, but this is what it is, yeah.

I think it's a question of that, but looking at it from the fighter's perspective, fighters would certainly be better off if there was more competition, that's always how it works, yeah, whether it's Bellator or 1FC or all these different companies, the more there are. more world series fighting professional moral fighting league whatever it's called now the higher they go the better it is for everyone that's how it is it's like there's just ad-libs and then they ban you from ad-libs but yeah you got funny bones if you have some cinemas Yes, it is exactly like that.

You know, I've seen that happen before with people. Yeah, I've seen that happen with comedy clubs and I've also seen that happen with fights. You get kicked out of a big organization and then you're a guy that nobody likes, it's not a monopoly in the sense that you have options, but there is a clear choice at the top of the food chain, but it's because they do it better, also the only ones who are having fights during this quarantine the only people who organize live sporting events, it's incredible, but they are also part of a company in wme that is suffering and needs it, yes, a lot, so there is not a lot of money. throw around like to keep the doors open to keep people employed, there's a lot of money, lack, right, yeah, all these shows are canceled, yeah, there's all these audience members that won't be there buying tickets, so which is complicated. man, so that's why I think they complain about the fighters' pay.

I think they should charge more. I think everyone should charge more. It's a crazy way to make a living. I think you should get as much money as possible. I understand, yes, but it's also a business and I think if they're struggling as much as I think they are, I don't talk finances with them, but I know some people own it, yes, they're hurt, yes, bad, they're putting people up. Yeah, most companies are hurting, it's all over the entertainment business, it's Live Nation, yeah right, all these people are great, so what do they do? That's what I think, but yeah, you know, when it comes to me as a human being who likes to fight.

I know how dangerous it is. You should be paid an incredibly generous amount of money to enter a cage fight for millions of people to watch. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because you have this situation where the quality of the fights is undeniable. better because it's not on the free market, you have people that are very good at picking fights and for the most part I say this as a boxing fan, so I grew up in boxing, where there are tons of different divisions or tons of different companies. if you want wbc wbo all these promoters different promoters and sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't do it well, but it's like it's a disaster and then sometimes what happens is you have guys who are really boring fighters, but they get a position in which they have the belt.

And then it actually hurts the sport in some ways, but they earned it and they deserve it, so as an athlete, I think they deserve to have it like a lot of people. I love Floyd Mayweather. I think he is the best fighter in history. of fighting well, I think he's actually one of the best people at his job, like I think Michael Jordan is of boxing, he's one of, without a doubt, one of the best boxers, if not the best boxer that ever lived. , he is 50 years old. I know, but he, to the average person, he fought, he was born for me, I loved him, but, to me, he was boring, so I needed the antics, yeah, I needed to make people mad at him, yeah, right, and it works, but the thing is with the UFC.

Look guys I don't know and I'm going to enjoy it and I feel like I don't know if that's just because of the sport but also because of the way they combine the fighters and it's not specifically hey you're ranked here you're ranked here we have to agree with you part of this is that you are classified here you are here but also your styles would make something interesting so I wonder if it is correct no, do you think it is better not to be completely? Free market Do you think it is better to have fights overwe made that clip, but like the writing, I understood and I think I can justify that I was talking to this one.

I don't know, I won't say his name because he is a university professor. I want to get him in trouble for talking to us and helping us, you know a distinguished gentleman and we are these ruffians, but he said he was really knowledgeable about constitutional law and stuff and he said this argument I thought was really interesting when it comes to rioting, not looting, destroying property is wrong and you're doing it to benefit when you loot, right, you're right, you're taking advantage of tragedy, right, tragedy is a smokescreen so you can benefit right and um, we made a interesting distinction like any Instagram model who also takes a photo like the thing but doesn't actually do anything it's like you're looting too, you're getting rich, you have a girl who borrowed the guy's drill to take that's what that we did and it was like that was looting, although like you're getting rich off of a tragedy, that's looting, yeah, so peaceful protest is obviously great, looting is wrong, being in the middle, which is the destruction of property, right?

Like, send this message and like Mark and I, we're putting together the piece we're talking about. This guy made this interesting point. As a citizen, you have the right to know life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, but also the right to property, and if the State is destroying the most valuable property you have, that is your right. body, you have to resort to some type of resource to be able to do it. protect that right that you have broken, they broke the social disadvantage contract, they broke it right when maybe they are shooting you or your neighbors etc., protest peacefully if that goes on deaf ears for decades, what else are you supposed to do?

I can keep saying peaceful protest, but if this continues to happen there really is nothing else available to you, so destruction of property is next. I think the best way to do it is probably to destroy public property, not private property, but destroy public property. actually you would be taking the right path because that is a response to destroying your life, you destroy my life, I am just in your park, who is reasonable here, well if everything was coordinated and thought out that way, yeah, and I think what happened in Minnesota in particular, what happened with the priests, the police station right where they burned that thing like that was fascinating, right when it spreads across the country and then it becomes two things, it becomes protest. peaceful, people angry at the police, yes, and then the looting and the looting is different, unacceptable, but the looting is unacceptable, what's crazy is that along the way we get more evidence of police brutality instead of the cops say, hey, this guy killed this guy, he makes us all look terrible, yeah, we're not like that, we're better than that.

Some of them probably did that, but a lot of them went back to their police ways, went back to their ways of breaking shields against people who ran over pedestrians. All the crazy people we saw shoot a guy in the face with a tear gas canister. See, they sprayed him with pepper spray and then flashbanged him right in the face. Really, my God, it's crazy that he's still alive. I think Joe Schilling has that on his Instagram page. There is a message. My friend Joe Schilling was a kickboxer. Yes, he has been saying for the last six seven days that he is not a bad apple.

He's going to look at all these cops doing it, so he's putting up video after video after video after video after video of cops grabbing a woman by her neck and throwing her around. the ground hits, she's like what are you telling me, why do I have to listen to you, he's like, get on the ground, just grab amazing people, bricklayer, young girls, amazing people for no reason, yeah this guy was talking with the police. so the cops just walk up to him, pepper spray him, drag him, throw him to the ground, you're taking away his freedom of speech, yeah the guy's not committing a crime, you're violating the first amendment, you're violating his constitutional rights .

They are breaking the social code. My friend Joe has video after video after video of this and I think one of them, I don't know if he has that in there, but one of them is this guy gets pepper sprayed in the face and then it splashes, I mean, it hits him straight. from the top, it's crazy, so many people stood up, yes, my friend is a captain in the marines, right, and he was and he was in Iraq and he goes, this is why I have no tolerance whatsoever for police brutality when we were in Iraq the mission changed from going there and going up like this when you try to win a war to win hearts and minds and they explain to us while we are there we are winning hearts and minds and that means that you will have to take more risks, that means that they don't just break down the door and then light it up, they need to make sure that they're not attacking innocence in At least try it, you're taking more risks, you're risking your life, so it says when I see police brutality.

I think: if we can afford that luxury to a country with which we are at war, how can we not afford that luxury? our own citizens, he says, if they tell me to take more risks, then maybe these police officers have to take more risks and pay them for it, increase pay, increase training, not defund, but increase and increase requirements and really turn them into heroes. but he said this, it seemed to me that the police culture in America and I could be wrong, I talked to police officers about it, but what he said it seems to me is that the idea is that no police officer is left behind.

Behind no police falls instead of protecting people at all costs, you know what I'm saying? mm-hmm, I don't know, I mean make holes, if you can, no, it makes sense, well, I'm all in. I agree that they need better funding, it has to be a better paying job that is much harder to get, yes, but when you see the police officers throw that old man to the ground, his head bounces on the ground, you see blood coming out of the head, no. you do anything, yes, no one stops them, yes, no one, no one picks up the guy, no one calls an ambulance, no one controls him, yes, you can't do that, yes, that's not serving, that doesn't protect you, only one guy said something you did.

It's not like that, you threw him to the ground, you knew he was old and weak, you knew he was and you did it potentially with the confidence of knowing that nothing would happen to you, there would be no recourse and that's when people leave. like, uh, one bad apple ruins a group, it's like no, no, you just eliminate the bad apple, but if you can't eliminate the bad apple, if there are systems in play that don't allow it, then it ruins the group, so yes There is one systemic change that we make, maybe it's people being prosecuted or cops being prosecuted for breaking the law because it would really allow would not allow I would really love it if we had this relationship with cops.

We are like you are a brave man, thank you. you like it because it's a dangerous job, yeah, and thankless in a lot of ways, so it's like why do we change this and how much risk do they have to take or what changes do we make so we can look? them and come on, thank god we have these guys around because it's scary listen to what you said about your friend being a marine, it's hard to get through boot camp, man, yeah, it's hard, you're right, there's a, yeah, There is a, there is a long way to go.

I have to travel to be a Navy Seal, that's what being a police officer should be like. It should be difficult to achieve and they should weed out the people who are sociopaths, the people who would just be willing to bow down. pimple on a man's neck for eight and a half minutes yes, those people are sick, you have to find them before they get into the position where they can do that to a person and how do you do that, how do you get your psychological evaluations or yes you have to train them, yes, train them as if they are the type of people who could potentially kill someone for the wrong reason, yes, you have to train them as if you are eliminating them, as if this is a great honor and we know that we can perform shipments. that, but we have to think about it in terms of resource allocation.

Police officers are not paid enough. Teachers are not paid enough either. And they're not killing their children, so I don't know, but sometimes they, they, they. and no one goes, we should just stop going to school, right, hey, these teachers are teachers' kids, fun school, teachers are sucking these kids off, this is crazy, yeah dude, I gotta Break up with this man, we've been doing it for three and a half hours, oh Jesus, three hours and three. hours we start a little later, okay bro, deep state will cut, it's great to see you, I love you, we don't see each other, I know man, but it's always a good time, hopefully next time we do comedy.

I think it's going to be something. I can not wait. What are you going to come back here again? I don't know. I'm going to do some shows. I hear you're doing well though. I don't want to mention it, but. I've got some vine shows, I'm bursting at the seams, okay, but some might be happening in Ohio too. Chappelle has some, he's playing, okay, oh, there's a lot going on, there's a lot going on, yeah, so my agent said that. that you were hanging around and I was like, you know what maybe I'd like to do something around your date, I'll help it man, I'll promote it, no you don't have to do it, what I'm saying is like it happens, yeah, like everyone could do each other's things and it would be fun, yeah, we could reward the clubs that are going to open, I don't know, we'll talk about it here, well, Texas, Texas, is shooting guns in western Arizona. affirms those who surprise those who survived the wars with the Indians are opening data immediately the disease does not kill us yes Andrew ladies and gentlemen I love you brother I love you too man thank you