Joe Rogan Experience #1453 - Eric Weinstein

What's up brother, how are you, Joe? How are you holding up? I haven't left my property in about two weeks, so it's crazy to see another human being. Yeah, I don't think this is healthy for us. I know that this confinement belongs to everyone. He's so weird that he wants to run into people walking dogs as if they don't want the dogs to get close to each other. Hello everyone, they are across the street. Hi, I'm a hugger anywhere in California, so I'm a hugger in California. and all my instincts are wrong, everything is messed up, everyone is confused, here's the big question, how long does it take before we normalize and return to, say the end of July?

Everyone announces that we have this blocked, we have a viable treatment, it is not like that. different than the flu, they give you chloroquine with the z-pak or any current treatment, yeah, when do people start hugging again? What do you mean it's night? It's going to be crazy. I mean, I think the ideas were touch-starved too, yeah. As if we were having a jubilee like you've never seen before, people will greet each other with languages ​​that are almost like simple acquaintances. I don't think it's a good idea, there are still colds and lice and all that, I know, but I think.

I think everyone is losing their minds, they definitely are. I've been talking to a lot of friends who are extremely cautious, let's say that, and you know they're not going anywhere and they're wearing gloves and masks when they leave their houses. house to go do something in the backyard and they put on the glove and the mask and they spray it with Lysol and they come in and it's not healthy and it's also healthy. I mean the idea that we haven't been tested and in the meantime it's good. Also remember that these things are living and real and have always been living and real and you know that if it were possible to live without these things, that would be one thing, but the 75-year nap we've been on since 1945 is itself. the biggest threat to all of us, and our preparation is just a wonderful indicator where you can really see this is the quality of your experts this is the quality of your leadership this is what they look like when put under stress that's true, true that that's a good thing that's a good thing and I'm impressed with the medical community.

I'm impressed with people who recognize that this is a big problem. Not so impressed with the administration of many of these hospitals who have not prepared themselves. in terms of masks and ventilators and a lot of other things that don't impress politicians as much, but it also seems like everyone, like you said, was in this napping state and hadn't really been tested and really, globally, no one had been evaluated since then. the 1918 pandemic like this, 68 I had, I had the Hong Kong flu and 57 were the best parallels to this, you got the Hong Kong flu in six, I had the Hong Kong flu and I was sick as a dog.

San Francisco was like three two three four enough I think it went from 68 to 72 do you remember oh yeah and I was in San Francisco my grandmother had to come from Los Angeles to take care of me it was bad there's like one of my first memories, yeah, 68 and 57, I think they are the best comparable to this before we go back to 1918 and hardly anyone remembers these things like it's very strange, many people had never heard of the Kong-kong flu when I started talking about it. the fact that yes, I have a Glee I remembered it until you said it no, no, Mike, I'm a little older than you, right, yes, I'm 52, I'm 54, yes, I don't remember the enemy of Hong Kong, but I know, I mean, I don't remember it personally, no, but you, as a health expert, are aware of these kinds of things and therefore understand the ways in which you know, for example, that you can have the flu, where I guess. the cytokine storm, you know, you are the threat to your immunity, your immune system is bigger than the virus itself, all these weird things happen, but I think this thing that let's call it the big nap, the big nap is in itself is the biggest threat to us and this is bad, but it's also a shot across our bow and, you know, this is what's going on in my mind when I was here talking about the problem of cell nuclei and atoms.

We will not stop the story, it is not as if we have passed the atomic war, as we discovered, we simply press the pause button for a moment, press the replay function, yes, the fear is also that nefarious players will take this opportunity to erode the civil rights. erode civil liberties and then China gains power in the Am

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an market, swallows a bunch of stocks while everything is bad and tries to increase its share of our economy and tries to boost it, you know, China has its hands lovingly around our throat because our elite has been moving towards increasing states of dependence on China mm-hmm true and such and such what the BDSM community calls breath play and I don't like immigrants playing like you like to half strangle to someone, yes, how?

You know what, oh, you know, I went, I went, I went to MIT and MIT is really into BDSM. There are many other white wire geeks and aspies in BDSM. Someone said a lot of rules. What is an Aspie? There are people with reason, many rules. they like it, they love the rules because they have hope, because to do all this safely you would have to have a huge hierarchy of rules and my claim is that China is they are the ones supplying so many of our things that we have moved everyone. from our manufacturing base, yeah, you know, in these crazy supply chains and we are completely dependent on a strategic rival and you know China is very careful if you remember when they hosted the Olympics to have these incredibly impressive displays that are always friendly , but what? they are actually saying that we are together and that our system was hackable, it was open as long as, for example, if you have a company that has duties to its shareholders, the directors of the company should do what is best.

Shareholder interest and everything else doesn't matter, so there may be a situation where a director has to move things to China because that's what's best for shareholders, even if it's not at all what's best for the United States. This is what Ralph Comrie, who used to run the Sloan Foundation, once said in a speech I was at at the National Academy of Sciences. He simply said that as a director, I am incentivized to do exactly the wrong thing for the United States of Am

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a, so "I'm going to put on a hat and tell you that as an American, we shouldn't move all of this to China and then I'll put on my hat of director and I will vote to move everything to China because I have no choice and you know, in essence, good and intelligent people, all 11 of us, we are always fighting this thing that you can't become dependent on China and during the big nap there was no way present this argument convincingly, you couldn't say look, we have a serious strategic problem because of their continued moves to include China as the solution to every equation that we can't balance and that's really the problem is that there was no ability to to say that we are too dependent on a rival strategy, you saw this at the beginning of the pandemic, everyone was afraid of what I don't want to be, seeming xenophobic I don't look like Chicken Little, right?

So all our friends, the crazy ones, are the marginal weirdos, the supposed scammers and gadflies. They are the people who got it right and early and all the respectable people like Nancy Pelosi tell people to please go to Chinatown to celebrate the Chinese New Year Bill de Blasio from New York says that despite the carnivals go out, let them know, don't lead your lives don't let this stop you these people need to resign Nancy Pelosi should resign it's one thing to say we don't have enough information about this and another thing to say take the information that comes to you, ignore it and go back there and continue boosting the economy , this is exactly our leadership, their problem, they think about this in short-term economics, the long-term implications of us all staying put, no one can calculate the consequences of a single person in the world knows what happens when you do this experiment, yeah, it's something new, right, the made in America argument was always kind of frivolous, almost xenophobic, like why do you want things made in America, what do you care, no, you don't like people from other countries? countries, you don't want things from other countries, it was like that, made with that, made in America, it was like people ignored it in many ways, but when you realize that all of our medical supplies like a lot of our electronics, especially the things you need to keep things exactly as they are, it's cheaper to do it there because they will like what we saw with Foxconn where they put nets around the building to prevent people from jumping and the strangest thing was the people. trying to argue that the suicide rate at Foxconn was essentially the same as the suicide rate in the general population, well, have you ever heard that argument?

Yeah, what are you talking about? That's where they work, there are Nets around where they work because there are so many people where Work jumps off the building to end their life because their life sucks so much that they committed suicide at work. Do you know that it is rare for him to commit suicide at work? It's probably pretty rare. You know how common it is to put nets around the building. You say, look, we are getting really tired of people going up to the roof and jumping because it is the easiest way to commit suicide, they will become more creative, yes, the problem is that we are all hooked on this need for cheaper products. yeah, profits when we can't figure out how to innovate enough to really create the juice in our own system and so we have to rationally say, I mean, we've also gotten into this idea that every year we have to have a piece new and better. of electronics as if you had to spend the rest of your life with an iPhone 11, how much would you suffer?

Not so much, although I would say that many of us are not that excited about the next phone, that in itself is kind of old-fashioned, right? what I'm saying is why can't they do it so you can fix this, yeah, you know, I mean who fixes their phone, you don't fix your phone, you don't bring in the depression era thinking, it's like, what? why Things won't be sustainable, no, no, the obsolescence of plants and the need to constantly update them so you know you never will be. It's a complicated problem, if you need growth to drive your system, then in a strange way it makes sense not to build the optimal one. right phone because if you built the optimal phone and then people stopped renewing all your systems, then your system will break in weird ways, so it makes sense at the phone level that you wouldn't want to do that, but weirdly overall if you can't start innovating if you don't know how to restart innovation in a big way.

Now you're stuck with having to live, learn to live in a stable state, something that none of us Americans have to live in a stable state. We stated that we need growth, that was the point of the idea of ​​the built-in growth obligation that it is fused in all institutions, each pension plan takes on growth, so now we have this problem where we don't have growth and we need growth. and then in a weird way, planned obsolescence is like false growth, it means we're going to buy back our phones even as if they were highly innovative now, so there's a weird way we become dependent on nonsense, you know, relying on nonsense is a great way to put it, this really highlights that for a lot of people, when they're at home and they're with their families and they're not traveling, especially people like me and my peers, like a lot of my comedian friends who travel constantly. we're like it's kind of nice to be home, you know, everyone's reconsidering, it's like what is this life that we've accepted, this is how things are, is this really how things should be or is it just like that? we just get stuck in a pattern and are operating on momentum if the Archimedean force of the committee becomes non-dysfunctional we are screwed well that's not that much, it's very far from normal as a Canadian.

I know that's why I get along so well with them. It's hard for me to hang out with normal people, you know, that would be hard, like I had to live in a community of normal people who just work every day, but if you had a community of just comedians, what would that look like? Oh, that. It would be fine, really, yeah, we would be fine, we have that's the comedy show comedy story, yeah, if the Comedy Store was closed like a 500 acre property and there were a bunch of houses there for each other. just entertaining each other, well half the fun of comedians is just hanging out, we were just laughing together.

Well, by the way, I have to say that one of the best things about returning to Los Angeles has been your invitations to hang out with comedians. in the store, what a great scene. I mean, you made this comment to me about a revival and then I think I sent you David Burns' book on music, the chapterabout CBGB, and it's almost an exact map of what made CBGB the Harvard of punk. the Oxford comedy shops of comedy, yeah, yeah, you, you been in the back bar, look, that's the smoke, you hit me twice ago and I just walked out of that thing, that was the best time I ever I could remember something, you know?

It's cool even when people who aren't comedians like you and you know Melissa and Matt and you know some of their friends and all these other people come there and they're around these people and they act more freely and they laugh harder and it makes you know. more colorless jokes and everyone laughs Oh, having fun, I mean that list is the worst, you have to be very careful, oh she's funny, she's so funny, yeah, Melissa Chen, by the way, shout out, shout out to Melissa, by the way, what cool things he's doing with the masks, yeah. explain that, well she's just in charge of asking why not, why don't our doctors and nurses have masks, so she's running around trying to figure out how to connect donor flights, whatever she's doing, it's heroic taking a lot of this on her shoulders and not me.

I'm hesitating because I don't even know what I can say, right, yeah, we don't have to talk, you should, she's a very interesting person. I'm really glad you introduced me to her, she's fascinating, this is a good time to see what people are made of, yes, whose heroic and heroic impulse is safe and who can hold it together when things go sideways when things get western, so to speak. Let me ask you a question about all the presidential candidates who were in the race as if they have all dropped out and also, which one of them would you want in a Kovan Tulsi Tulsi?

By the way, that was my answer. Don't know. He didn't want her pop foreign policy, that's one of the reasons he wasn't enthusiastic and Tulsi. I didn't like some things in India, there are some problems about Modi and I don't want to get into them. that, but if you ask who you would like to like who has that kind of military blockade, we have to make sense of the need to leave the room, the strange thing is that it is a millennial woman of color who I would immediately want to subordinate, well, she is because she would also say no, she had the strength to denounce all the nonsense that was, if she just said this it is unacceptable, what are we doing?, these are times of emergency, we had to suspend these problems, we have to bring these things to our doctors, nurses, emergency technicians, I mean, look, I should say I'm trying to be smiling and positive, but I'm burning with rage.

I can't, they weren't set up correctly, the scale of the error and the attempt to even understand a government. that I can't trust what I can throw feel contempt for the Surgeon General of the United States say that the World Health Organization is a danger to global health say that the CDC lies I hate being in a position where I think so What about Tulsi? She is a person of real character. You know, I don't see her the way I see a lot of these people who are running for president. I see them with masks. You know, I mean, I don't even need to do it. they name names but they are giving their best impression of a politician like a shitty comedian will give their best impression of Dave Attell, you know that's the best example someone gave me, like the comparison, there is a communication style that many of them have adopted to try to appear and you can tell they're trained, they're trying to look presidential, she's like that, man, I've been with her off camera, on camera, I've seen her just like her. communicates with people now I don't know her to the core, but what I see impresses me very much and she has developed her character during two tours of duty abroad again, who volunteers, who takes care of all this, it's I miss him because I you know, I actually covered before that he had this Bernie yang tossie mentality, which is exactly what the hairball is that I can shove down the throat of the Democratic National Committee to make the party crumble under that ledge of Hillary Clinton mm-hmm, the strange thing is in a real pandemic.

I'm pretty sure she's got it, yeah it may not be her year, right, she's only 38, he's only 38, yeah, it may not be her year, but she'll get there, but how interesting is that? , like when the Fan comes, the person with the highest number of intersection points may actually be the person you want to lead on merit, but they don't want it, which is even more so because they don't want it because it can't be bought nor sell. Well, that's really simple. I think you know we need to revisit some things, all this anger and ferocity we were using to confront the social engineering that was invading the main conversation.

I think Kovat proves that he is mortal mm-hmm. if your main concern isn't looking xenophobic, people will die because you're functionally incompetent, you just lost 40 IQ points for nothing, well that was the initial response to Trump's idea of ​​shutting down flights from China, people were furious and they called him. racist, well, the idea that you can put a negative sign in front of Donald Trump and form an opinion that if he is stupid, anything he does the other way around is smart, is itself stupid, is dangerous, is completely irresponsible and here's the strange thing. and I told you this on the phone the other day when we were talking, the weird thing about Joe is that we're the real adults in the room, tulsi, you, me, that's a big deal what they trade me with, well that's what am.

I'm trying to say "but you," but here's the thing, I think I actually understand it better than you, which is that you have a beautiful life and you recognize that part of it comes with the humility of not thinking too much about yourself, being self-critical, all these things. I think that's all to your credit, it's also time to lead and if you think that having to break out of whatever mindset you're in could be the difference between saving the lives of doctors and nurses, you would do it. If you would sure, sure, well, this thing is the flagship of pirate radio.

I mean, this is samizdat to the world and Sam's concept is that you would have a truth that would circulate underground in the Soviet Union. It's not like they rarely broadcast you inside MSNBC or CNN, except when they're after you. Well, the strange thing is that Fox News broadcasts to me all the time, because Fox is there for sort of dominant narratives. Fox News is the flagship of the right. -Closed institutional narrative of the center and then you have all the other organs like MSNBC CNN NPR BuzzFeed, you know, whatever these things are in the closed institutional narrative of the left of center, very often Fox will notice the things that we do if they introduce them. the eye of the left, yes, that's exactly it, and the point is that we are selectively amplified and that process of selective amplification is in itself dangerous, just like Fox and people invite me more frequently and I reject them because the narrative inside the New York Times okay he's part of that thing right frequent FoxNews contributor Eric Weinstein oh that's the adjective occupation name yeah adjective frequent FoxNews contributor my occupation and then my name that game like NPR is calling me and I would go on Fox, but their very clever game is to make it seem like well, you choose to go, no, you choose to ignore a lot of what is changing the culture and therefore you are the only people who They are willing to do it.

Ask Us and Relay Us are the people who are angry at NPR CNN's MSNBC. Well, I think they realized the limitations of their medium. I really believe it. I think CNBC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and ABC all realize that they're in this really weird situation where they have to do these seven-minute segments interrupted by commercials, they have one restriction: They can only air on hours of the night that the show is supposed to be scheduled and you know they depend on the Internet. clips to carry the show, I mean, the YouTube clips are probably much more popular than anything they've released that's on the air, which I mean, their distribution is very strange and it was very interesting to see Bill Maher.

Sit here, he was like I guess this is the caveman, yeah, it's good to see you, Bill, he's like he's here to humiliate me and ask you if you're coming on my show. No, he was trying to force me to participate in his program. Hey. It's not a small problem, it's not a growler, no, but it is strong armor. Well, what it is is that it is trapped and trapped between two tectonic plates. It is the closest thing we have inside the beast, in a sense, to what we are doing, maybe yes. he's a comedian he's a comedian but he's also, you know, he's a guy with real courage, yeah, and he's in a very difficult situation.

I think, interestingly, he is in the most difficult situation of all of us. Well, he is a guy who is on the left and who also thinks that a Many of the things that I do like me and like you too, many things that are perpetrated by people on the left are not just Dain, but they strengthen the right and they strengthen support for Trump, that is, they put people on the fence to Surrender and jump to the right and be welcome. I've stopped being nice to these people. It can't be, no. It's only you. So much buffoonery.

It is psychotically dangerous to see people continue the buffoonery in life or death. situations yes, yes, no, I agree and Bill is an honor, you are going to brush it, have you done it? Eventually I will. I'm sure so, the only options he gave me on booked gigs, I see, I think it's very important to use them, I mean. I don't know it at all, but to the extent that it was a beachhead for connecting these two universes, my model of this is that we have this traditional legacy world and we have this kind of Internet world looming over it. and overall the insulating layer between them is astonishing at this late date.

The amount of things that happened on the internet that don't really resonate within the mainstream is staggering in 2020 and then you get these arcs that happen between the two. So, for example, Sam Harris' famous interaction with Ben Affleck on the Bill Maher show, yes, it was an arc between these two universes. He was also a guy on steroids who was furious with a guy who really knows what he's talking about, I mean he was getting ready. For Batman, okay, he did the math, but that's why he was so angry, but then Kathy Newman and Jordan Peterson was another arc where Kathy was playing Ben Affleck's role.

Jordan Peterson didn't really know what he was doing, he was trying. get away with the same strategy that she's too lazy to generate exactly for this type of general boxing and categorize someone's opinions that don't really represent, they represent her real opinions, so what you're trying to say, what you're telling me What Joe is saying is that I have absolutely no sense in my value as human beings, you should never visit your shows that said what you're trying to say, so what I'm trying to say is that in a generalized sense, she was just doing the same thing. usual, yes, and with a person who does not participate, I also like that these people would be victimized by putting them in these narratives and they are used to using these patterns, these people traditionally had no other way of responding, right, there were no clips of Internet that they were published, a letter to the editor, well, on page 25, yes, and maybe they would publish a retraction.

I mean, this is standard behavior for some newspapers and some journalists, right? unfortunately, but this model doesn't work anymore because anyone can go to YouTube and instantly say my time on the Kathy Newman show. This is what went wrong and this is why she did this and this is what they told me in the green room. and this is what and then you lay it out more or less you know, here it is, I mean, let's play with it maybe you're right maybe you're wrong I don't know my opinion on this is that the best thing that we have We have the ability to do almost anything we want on YouTube as long as they don't close us down, let's say that however, you also have the concern that as long as this world remains closed, if for example you have a closed world of people who are pretending to have conversations with each other discussing the topics and then the institution says we are only going to deal with authorized sources, so the problem is that if you pretend that you know LARPing or kayfabe, whatever you want call it yes, it is taking place within the closed institutional narrative, the institutions are going to base their actions in the official nonsense and in anything we do on YouTube, as long as there is an insulating layer, unless we can throw something against the wall, you know, over the walls of the Citadel will continue to act as if we never said anything , we never point it out, it's like you're at a children's magic show where the musician, the magician, is completely incompetent and the lights are on and you can see. all the wires and trap doors and the magic show continue and so everyone can see that it is so, but as long as the institutions agree to pretend that they believe we have a real problemThat Internet, that did it.

Not solving that is like the Internet hasn't solved it. Sorry for interrupting. I think what it's done is severely eroded its foundation to the point where the confidence in it is that there's no real mainstream like this idea of ​​mainstream news anymore. it's mainstream, well how is that real if YouTube videos get more views, like if you make a YouTube video and it gets 5 million views but then something happens? MSNBC gets 500,000 views, yeah what's mainstream? Well, what is mainstream now that we are talking about? about instead of conventional media, I think the term traditional media is the best way, the same way as the term legacy, but go on, legacies, well, well, look for longer than people had to use Morse code correctly and then I discovered telephones and, since the Morris code guys were right, what did you do?

What you know and then the phones were connected to cables, yes, but I don't know. There's still a phone here, no, but unfortunately there's still a feature, so I love the point. what you're doing, I'm just trying to figure out how to play with that, let's assume that if there's no mainstream left, what we're really talking about is legacy institutional media, yeah, and the big danger is assuming that the mainstream goes completely out of the mainstream. major. building and there are only 10,000 people who trade with each other, but they also control all the institutions, so, like you, the world can maintain reality mm-hm and we, the institutions, agree to traffic, you can make many jokes at our expense, But we.

We're also going to be figuring out whether we work with stock masks or what our agricultural policy is or how the US military should be deployed and where we should send troops to protect the oil fields and all that kind of stuff and that's what worries me. that many of us are content to be right and make them look like idiots and your point is fine, we will continue, we will look like idiots, but we will also continue to pull the levers, so with legacy media your statement is that legacy. the media has a much more impactful presence in terms of foreign policy in terms of dealing with the pandemic, the response sings in that sense, let's play with that and see where it goes, okay, if you think about Wikipedia, Wikipedia might have a rule that says we allow no I don't do original research, so link to authoritative sources and say, "Okay, great, what are authoritative sources?" Yeah, now the authoritative source is the CDC or the WHO or the Surgeon General or the New York Times or CNN or MSNBC, like I have this, but it's on MSNBC like if someone just goes on the air and we see something, it's an authoritative source. or wouldn't it be like an expert in hell for someone who has reviewed peer-reviewed studies, someone who is fine.

Who is the Surgeon General at this time? Don't know. CDC is that red field. Don't know. I am sure he is a competent doctor. I also think there's a problem with pretending masks don't work. Masks don't work. in the general population, please don't buy them, our healthcare people need them, they are small, well that's what they've been saying right, and the problem is that you have some nonsense, so it's the nonsense original. because California is now changing their recommendation and saying that if you go out in public it's not just stupid, it's deadly stupid, it's deadly stupid to kill doctors.

I mean, I'm trying to make everyone smile, yeah, yeah, I mean, what we have is a situation where we knew that the masks and the personal protective equipment supplies are really bad, not to mention the ventilators and the ICU beds, and now what do we do about it to have rules like please don't bring masks to work because it scares patients or please? Don't use homemade masks because they might actually be more germ-filled or virus-filled, so you'll be spreading what you want to be true to get the action you're looking for. What we have is a prisoner's dilemma or everyone runs away. and buy masks, ooh, like the people we need to protect the most are the heroes we're really dealing with, you know, multiple patience and taking large amounts of viral load, so I have no doubt that those are the people who They form a society.

If you were honest with us, like there was a speech to give that would be like this, you know, my fellow Americans, how prepared you are. I am forced to submit my resignation effective Friday of this week. I have not heeded many of the warnings in our academic literature. Because our reserves are severely depleted, it is imperative that we do not suffer any further loss of life and therefore I am forced to make an unusual request after having failed you. I ask everyone who stockpiled masks for personal use to think about making some sacrifice for good.

All of us, our heroes, are currently exposed to the coronavirus and receiving large amounts of viral load and I ask that you donate any unused masks you have to this population as we are desperately trying to replenish our stock. Please continue to shelter in place. and recognize that the benefit to you is less and the benefit to all of us is greater and this will be to follow your heroic drive to bring us back together as a nation, first of all, is there any provision? random, it's not right, secondly, no one is going to say that they will never admit that if they are going to say that we will tell justing, I know that Cour we are adjusting or shooting the Dacians basin of all the new ones, no, Joe, I will be completely unreasonable, I know I have this mode. where I can just become completely unreasonable, go ahead, this is if that's where we are, then it's time to rebel against the ruble, how I don't know well that we need the people, if it's civil civil disobedience, like putting our healthcare people I mean, I haven't.

I've been away from my property for weeks, the reason I'm here in part is to do what little I can and it's very little to support the people who are our literal heroes, our life and death, putting their own cells into danger. The idea of ​​how hospital administrators abuse our doctors and nurses makes me apoplectic with rage the fact that these people are told they can't talk to the press and they write to me and they are their family and the children write to my mother . They asked me to do this. My uncle works in a prison.

He is not allowed to wear masks. He is not allowed to wear a mask. I send you a mask, blah blah blah, yeah, there are a lot of those stories, okay, what the hell is going on? It's time for these people. to resign and it is time for us to remember that we have the ability to surrender our own government. This is because we are unprepared as a nation and have been sold out by our self-proclaimed ruling class for so long and no one wants that. or we remember who we are and how this game is played.

I mean, this is like a pre-war situation and this can easily lead to war. The transmission mechanism is that everyone stays home because you're worried about liability deaths, which you know? I don't think they are worried about the number of deaths. I think they are concerned about deaths, qualifying results and that would result in race-ending action. Yes, this is what you were saying on the phone. Do you think that's really what's bothering them, yes, but if we all have to stay home while they replenish our supplies then the economy goes into recession and the recession can turn into depression depressions lead to armed conflict into armed conflict leads to a war that would be a transmission mechanism of these stupid masks to stop something that no one can handle and this is what is coming at us on Passover and we Jews have a tradition that I wish everyone had, which is that we read a stupid story every damn year just to drill it. in your head to make sure it's always fresh and this is when it's time to go, when it's time to change, don't wait for the bread to rise, this is what I tell all the Jews like you're sitting there waiting for the bread . get up because everyone knows the story that you eat the damn matzah because the people who waited for the bread to rise are no longer with us and their descendants are no longer with us and it's time to rebel.

This ruling class is unviable. The reason you and I came to the word tulsi instantly I don't think you took much deliberation is because tulsi would know what to do well, she is also the least burdened, yes at least she is burdened by everyone in the system, he hates her , Yes, you know. on the whole point where she would put heads on pikes, yes this is the heads on pikes moment and it is important, it is not a matter of revenge, the importance is what is the cost to you in killing people by not paying attention to academic literature if there is a supply.

It was sold out and you didn't replenish it, what is the cost to you? Well, there are lessons in how other countries have seen this and how they chose to act, particularly South Korea, right? South Korea acted faster, with a smaller population than us, but with a much greater impact for us. the virus they shut things down very quickly, yes, yes, Singapore, I don't know how Singapore, very, very interesting. I think they know they use surveillance and tracking and they know they made sure they visited someone. I mean, they had a different system. and as people who, like you and me, love our civil liberties, I think that in part the draconian society of Singapore lives off things that only we can do because of our freedom, so they must realize that freedom is itself an export and one of the great The danger is that China has been exporting the benefits of America's freedom to an authoritarian system so that they get the benefits of both worlds, they get the benefits of our middle finger, which I think is the secret of American innovation, and reap the benefits of our middle finger, which I believe is the secret of American innovation. benefits of authoritarianism where they can do things that we can't because they can order people to do inconceivable things, so my feeling is that I am on the civil liberties team and the civil liberties team has to be somewhat nationalistic, more militaristic, more dominant control, like who would. you take orders, so in many fields I would take orders from you, you're the big dog in this space, you know, and to the extent that you wanted to coordinate something, I would use my channel, I would subordinate myself to you and me.

Sometimes I wish people would disobey me if I did it, if I were taking the initiative in something important, when we are afraid of leadership because we are all so individualistic that we never want to follow an order, like when I am training a new assistant. or something like that, what are always best practices? Can I bring you a coffee? You know, it's very important to show that the ability to ask to serve another person and the ability to lead are linked. You have to be a follower to be a leader and a leader. to be a follower you can't you shouldn't be one of the others we need now more war we need more war footing we need a war president we need we need war senators we need people with this mentality because the siesta is coming to an end and I think Nancy Pelosi needs to resign and Bill DeBlasio needs to resign.

I think this administration, you know, made some good moves and fumbled and I think the previous administration made some good moves and fumbled. and the imperative is to stop propagating what you want to have, what you want us to do, like overcoming the prisoner's dilemma and inventing a lie that would make us act selfishly and rationally, as if you were telling me that a mask is actually more dangerous. . on my hands because it gets germy, so the idea is, oh, okay, so I guess I won't wear the mask, yeah, because you lied to me and the idea is that's what you're trying to do with your finger. trying to say what would have to be true for you to do what I want I don't understand what you're saying about these masks you're saying so if I say for example let's imagine I don't want to put seat belts in cars, okay, and I I mean you know, Joe, a seat belt could catch you.

If your car falls into the water from a bridge, you could actually die from the seat belt because you would become entangled and it wouldn't be able to save you. you are right, but the problem with that analogy is that seat belts really do save lives, but is it possible that they are just being bad with this mask thing, but that masks can actually contain a lot of viruses and you can see the bones ? kill you, but do you think that's what I'm trying to do? I'm trying to say it as a big related problem, let's talk about everyone who gets sick and dies from contaminated masks, everyone who gets sick and dies from I feel a false sense of security, let's go through a huge list every time I say I see the intervention and now the idea is to think about all the lives saved thanks to the masks,both in terms of transmission, which I don't lock them in a coffin, and in terms of I don't breathe aerosols or droplets, whatever, blah, blah, blah, and now they're both real, but you're focusing on deaths from entanglements due to the seat belt, because you actually have a covert agenda and I would like to think about their covert agendas.

Oh, I don't know exactly, but if I had to speculate, I would say that this one was terrified of deaths by classification, deaths that occurred simply because we didn't have enough resources that needed to be stored or talked about in literature that's one thing , there's responsibility, then there's responsibility, oh, we were following the Surgeon General's recommendation at the time, now someone suddenly found, you know, like all the masks in the world. I think the Surgeon General would suddenly say that the science has become conclusive. um because there would be no concern about liability anymore, you would just get those masks for people, you would give the masks to the people who need them and then you would stop the transmission, you would slow down the transitions of the transmissions, you think there's also a lot of just figuring it out as they go, what's happening there, is figuring this out as they go as far as the masks go.

I think everyone knows that masks save lives in general, they know that the people who need them the most have very strange rules. There's this whole issue of states versus the federal government, there's this issue of price gouging and pricing mechanisms, there are all kinds of things that prevent the mask problem from being solved, one of which is the number of masks that are produced in China and the fact that we may have shipped masks and personal protective equipment to China so there is a big question of liability and that we are backspreading our response how much we are quarantined and how much we would lock down what we are saying about why doctors are told not to wear masks when caring for patients.

I mean, I'm talking about deadly nonsense, deadly structural nonsense. and if people like you and me don't call this out using these channels that we have, then the narrative just sticks and, in part, what we're doing is a sense-making operation parallel to the standard media, which is, uh, Twitter said. We will now delete tweets if you contradict authoritative official health sources, so that's just what I did. The Surgeon General lies. The CDC lies. Who lies? Come to me Do you think they're lying? Yes, but why do you think they are lying well? give me a specific example of why you feel they are lying well, for example you saw this interaction with Hong Kong TV asking about who.

Oh about Taiwan, yeah that was crazy, explain that because it is and say it was crazy to see. first she pretended that the quin's boss pretended not to hear them and then she made them say it again first she moves as if you can see her hand if I'm going to cut the connection she hung up she said I couldn't hear, she's fine, I'll repeat the question. He says no, let's move on to the next. Well, why would he want to move on to the next one if he didn't listen to him? Come on, yeah, I don't even have one.

This is the point where we are so afraid to explain what he did to people who don't know because people are listening here and there. Asked about the Taiwanese answer yes to the coveted epidemic and he didn't want to say Taiwan because China claims that Taiwan is part of China and because China exerts so much influence over whu-oh, he wanted to say something very general which is how I think all the provinces in China have been doing a great yeah, that's a different country, Taiwan because there's a dispute, so what do you think China is most interested in?

PTIN, the People's Republic of China, communist China. The communist Chinese don't want any recognition of something called Taiwan and why does the World Health Organization give in to that? How do different nations gain control? things that you know, we have influence in the UN and we have caused the UN to do things that are focused on the United States, you know that other countries have influence and you do it by being on particular committees, rotating directorates, who pays the cost, I don't know how. The WHO seems to be so entangled with China and I don't want to complain about these things because I want to keep my voice straight, but it says a lot to see that guy do that and do that little dance, I try to avoid telling time while My whole life looks like that interview.

I mean, I hate to say it this way, but my relationship with the Authority and my big criticism is that this is the generic expectation in almost all institutions. Now they all have strange objectives because growth is what gave us. our independence and when we became less innovative and we or the innovations dried up and we couldn't break through to new things, the number of people who could effectively use their middle finger and say, "I'm running this in this organization to do the same". The right thing and then this is my bet and we're going to move forward.

Those people as a class were eliminated. If you think about what you do with Churchill when there's no World War II to win, it's very uncomfortable. He opened a dry cleaner, we don't know, you have special people who really only shine when there's an emergency. There's a guy called Jay Prakash and Orion in India was very important. He was one of the founding fathers of modern India and after. India Indian independence was achieved, many of the people who had been founding fathers moved on to the next phase where they got rich, they did standard political things to gain power in the system, he was the only one who stayed true to the revolutionary spirit and interestingly, when Indira Gandhi created a state of emergency that was a disaster in India, people said well, who can we turn to in a dark time?

And interestingly, I guess Prakash means light, so there was this phrase like in the darkness there is one. Jai Prakash Light Driver: Hi Prakash, they turned to the one guy who had become the patron saint of causes because he never broke faith in the revolutionary spirit and he was called up once, but it's incredibly important because everyone knows it in a dark time. who can they trust, right, that's a very important parallel to where we are now, who are the ones who break the glass in an emergency, yeah, when you look at the people who are speaking in these presidential speeches, there's none Of those, I don't see any. breaking glass, I mean, this disgusting Qi guy is obviously a disease expert and he's a doctor and he's trying to do everything he can to lay down the ground rules for what we should do and what this is going to look like in the coming months, but but it's like If Jaco was willing, you know, like Jaco isn't telling you, don't worry, you don't have to change your routine, you can get up at 9:30, just do a little bit, just a little bit, it's like the discipline is the same. to freedom.

He gets up at 4:30 what are you doing in bed it's time for discipline well because he's a military man and the military doesn't have space because not even the love of some military men knows that people like seals, they don't have room for nonsense , well, because you have to be able to perform well, so in that situation, your feelings increase at 4:30, that's how they feel, that's what I'm trying to sell, you can do a little bit and That's great, you guys They're imposing mediocrity, but that's what it is and that's what I'm trying to get at.

Yeah, we have a situation where we know if you have two coaches and one of them is doing that, don't worry and the other one. I want to tell you that I'm not going to lie to you, it's going to hurt, you're going to feel miserable, this isn't going to be fun which one you choose, some people will go with the first, yes, they like to stay fat, there's a lot of that out there. Okay, mediocrity is something. very comforting, I hear you, yes, look, it's hard, it's hard to be that 4:30 in the morning guy, some days the alarm goes off, it has to be like this man, well, you know Jocko doesn't live. that 24/7 yes he does he can't live it he can live it 18 six no one lives at 20 Lee do you remember what he did with the cake at a birthday party there was a delicious piece of cake in front of me I struggled to Come on, I succumb to temptation, yes, but I tell you, man, that doesn't even mean anything that goes through that bomb blast furnace, but I say that nobody is 24/7 on the table, It's a false weakness, yes. give in to a 4 minute weakness yeah, super deadly like they're disappearing to make you feel sorry for him, it seems like oh I have some feelings too, like pie, yeah well he doesn't tell you, you probably went down to the basement of his dungeon every pie did squats for an hour look I think there are people who are really that guy yeah he's one of those people he's really that guy he's that guy all the time I spent a lot of time with Jocko okay he's that guy but that's because he then I won't see well, I want but I want one of those people right now important right now yes, those guys are important and we have to clean them up, this kind of people who tolerate each other is like The reason why tolerate each other and don't like to accuse or sue each other is that everyone is equal, you know, and that was the key skill for 35 to 50 years, which is knowing. what not to say to disrupt institutional enforcement, well that's politics and that's one of the things that people dislike and that's one of the reasons Donald Trump actually got into office, yes people looked at him like an antidote.

I mean, that's right, clean up the swamp, drain the swamp, that's him, well, that's what they thought, they thought maybe she could bring her own swamp, but he was against her swamp exactly, yeah, exactly , and then Bernie Sanders has his own kind of swamp. he has a different kind of swamp you know everyone has their own swamp it's like what's your particular pattern that you'd like to push you know what brought you to the dance you know I'm sorry I'm laughing but Barry Weiss was sitting here she's just like that. Joe, what do you think you'll vote for?

And then you called me. You like Eric. What I have just done? I think you may have either swung the elections in the wrong direction or in the right direction. Joe Biden being the lead is the only reason they went after Bernie Sanders and me. I mean, the idea was just to reinforce the idea that Bernie Sanders is making bad decisions by hooking him up with someone who says things when he's trying to be funny, yeah, you know, and you post it with some quotes behind it like, wow, this guy It's horrible, you know, everything out of context is horrible and what they're trying to do is without a doubt the same thing we're trying to do. talking about the guy who's willing to dance with them, which is Joe Biden, the guy who's the professional politician who doesn't care if he can barely talk, doesn't care if he forgets what he's saying mid-conversation, but this it's all about closed institutional narratives, age, the key issue and I learned this.

I used to do immigration matters in Washington during the '90s. I learned this concept of steady hands. This is like one of the scariest lines I've ever said. I think at some point in New York, whenever people decide to do something bad to spite people, they always use the phrase "it's a beautiful thing," meaning that you can extract money from people who haven't noticed that they don't have voice in the matter in Washington. their financial circles are, yes, funded by New York, so every time you hear the phrase it's a beautiful thing, it means someone is being raped;

Sure, yeah, in Washington the phrase I learned to fear is steady hands, it's a steady pair of hands, that means you can count on it to do the wrong thing in an emergency to keep everyone inside okay and there's like a separate system to promote people who do the wrong thing and make sure because everyone inside is very dependent on someone burning all their credibility in public, steady hands, oh yes, that is the main hope of this free information society , that all these disgusting practices, these inherited practices, can, I figured, well, this is the strange thing when Amy Klobuchar dropped out of school.

It was like a baby boom born in the, let me say 61. kind of like everyone left was born in the 1940s Elizabeth Warren was the youngest then like Mike Bloomberg Bernie Sanders Joe in Donald Trump everyone was born between 41 and 49 now all of those people would be the oldest president, all of them The oldest president added the inauguration as if we had lost our minds. This is normal for us. It's not really commented on. There would be five four five septuagenarians competing for the presidency of the United States. It's pretty crazy, but we just left the evidence.

Clearer with Joe Biden, yes, because he is showing real deterioration, but we have seen a deterioration from Trump, particularly early in the first or second year of his term. He needs some spectacular videos of him breaking down where he can't enunciate the words he concedes. He didn't say the words correctly while he was speaking to the country, his tongue was like swollen in his throat, it was very strange, true, but thePeople think maybe it's a substance problem because it goes up and down and sometimes they get it wrong. part of the wave and that's when he's on camera and you know he's fighting through it but he literally can't get any words out but then he'll recover and they'll be fine.

Joe Biden is not recovering, you know? He has an aversion to the same type of supplements that Donald uses. I don't know, I don't know what's going on, yeah, here are these episodes consistently. Sometimes he seems fine and other times he seems completely lost and you know, I learned. This was very uncomfortable for me. I was watching Stefan Molyneux and Mike Tsarevich going on and on about Hillary's health mmm-hmm and I was thinking these guys actually make sense on this topic in a weird way and I've never really interacted with Stefan. molyneux at all and in a way it scares me.

I don't really want him in my life, but that doesn't mean he wasn't right and I wasn't being brave and saying it and then when Donna Brazile, I think, she came out later. and he said yeah, there were real concerns about Hillary's health all the time, well she was fainting, yeah, wherever you pass out, that's good, we don't know what she was doing, but what I'm doing trying to get at is that we are dependent on these people who tell us that they are trolls as a free people and I remember Orwell talking about the proletariat where the proletariat was strangely free and the central people were those who did not have freedom.

I saw this also in the fall of the Soviet Union. I had family in Moscow and kyiv and in Chernov, we discovered it right at the end of the Soviet Union and I looked back on the visit and I remember preparing for that visit. I called these people and Chernov, near Moldova and the far west. from Ukraine and I said, you know, a speech like hello and I hear the voice and on the other end of the phone it was like the time when long distance calls were still romantic and hearing the welcome of Shalom and I'm realizing that these They are young, they still speak Yiddish, they don't care at all because they are not important, they are not in Moscow, they are not in st.

In St. Petersburg they are on the periphery and there is a measure of freedom that comes from simply not being central and right, you can communicate freely and you can think freely, does anyone in the legacy media talk openly on any of these shows about the deterioration of Biden? I don't know, you know Tucker Carlson is another guy to watch out for, who's freer, he's free from Fox, he can go against Fox, yeah, I'm looking at Greg Gutfeld. I don't know what Greg has been saying, but there are a small number of interesting things. people who are still housed inside the belly of the beast and I don't know if you heard my theory about the rebel end of corporate law, the corporate end of rebel didn't, so I think you and I would be fine in At least I'm wearing a jacket .

I would be the corporate side of the rebels. Okay, yeah, you could be the rebellious side of the rebels. I don't know, you're pretending to be the rebel because you're pretty sick, yeah, what am I? I pay what well, look at everything to be on the rebellious and rebellious, those tattoos obviously wash off and you put them on, you just apply them every day, but the Corporation, the rebellious end of the corporate would be like Barry Weiss, okay, yeah right, so she's in the belly of the beast, but she's pushing the limit Bill Maher would straddle the corporate end of the rebel end of the corporate rebel unclear hmm, right, so there's an important association throughout This, if you think about it, you remember the movie Inglourious Basterds, did you like it?

Well, sure. I loved it, okay, Lieutenant Aldo Rey, it's this interface between the regular army and the psychotic Jews who will kill Nazis if given any chance and you need people to interface between the bad guys and the regular units and these are incredibly important. What is the plural of nexus necks? I don't know, we got in trouble the first time with the octopus, octopuses, no, it's actually octopus, the recommended one is octopus, DS, spelled, octopods spelled, really, yes, but I've seen octopuses, yes, what people use awk, they use octopuses, octopuses, they are. this plural form of Nexus is Nexus or Nexus, okay boy Jaime, with the victory, how strange that it is or that it can only be Nexus, the plural form of Nexus makes sense I guess, so these Nexus, yes, they are accustomed, are incredibly important. and we have to keep them that way and I'm worried about the corporate or rebel side of corporations because these corporations are starting to realize that their need for kayfabe far outweighs kayfabe kayfabe kayfabe is carnival talk about the word fake and when you catch it the wrestling became professional wrestling, you know all that, that's very interesting, yeah, it's strange, well, it's dark to catch wrestling, there's no carnival wrestling, actually Jamie, could you mention the word kayfabe on Weinstein?

Can you name any person who was involved in wrestling? real wrestling, how far do you go with this? Well, you know, Farmer Burns was Farmer Burns, Farmer Burn, no famous wrestling guy used to do the hangman's drop, his neck was so strong, new, go around it and drop six feet and hang there, so when By the way, if you want to read a great book on professional wrestling, I highly recommend the book that talks about the evolution, so what I call KK making, well, it's the transition of something that usually has twin attributes, it's very dangerous and very boring, so old style wrestling was incredibly dangerous.

I mean, people knew they were crippled, so they often just surrounded themselves and didn't really get involved and they liked wars like this, for the most part, war is extremely boring and then you know, obviously, it can be. pretty deadly, so to routinize these things we created kayfabe, which is the system of layered lies by which professional wrestling is underrated, so you know what a worked shoot is, yeah, okay, what's a job to shoot? Well, a shoot is a real fight and a shoot worked like a job is a fake fight, so if two guys were pretending to fight and there was actually a problem, I should expose all this in Japan, there is a great admiration for wrestling professional and professional fighters would get into mixed martial arts and they would get into mixed martial arts with different levels of real commitment, so some of them would get into mixed martial arts and have fake fights.

This is like pride, yes, exactly, pride and some pride. it was actually founded by Hicks and Gracie, who was the most legit thing a man ever lived, and Takata, who was a famous professional wrestler, and Hickson faced Takata in a real fight, he would just have a real fight over who was Gracie's killer who left Japan. Sakuraba, oh sorry, yeah Sakuraba, well he's a phenomenal fighter, anyway, I don't want to ruin it for you, of course, he came from, I think Karl Gotch and Billy Costello and I think that's the gentleman's name. There were a lot of people who taught him how to catch wrestling, so his style was submission oriented, he had both, like him, you know he was also involved in professional wrestling, but anyway he was a legitimate fighter, the point was that there was a strange confusion in the lines. and there were some fights like Mark Coleman had a fight with Takata where it was very clear that Mark Coleman got paid to dive because Mark Coleman should have smashed that guy and he got caught with the heel hook, he doesn't hit, he's going to hit . then he ends up tapping it was like whoa and he tapped but everyone watching knew that fighting was like getting out of here what's going on here oh my god it's a fake fight and it could have been content so there was fake fights mixed in.

In the case of real fights, it was quite common, quite common, we decided and this is what happened in the transition in the early 20th century between wrestling and professional wrestling is that you start doping reality with falsehood and it I was asking about work. shooting is about the overlap of nonsense and reality, so the idea is that you have something that is apparently fake and then you have a kayfabe breakup apparently, which is the slide into the expected work, but a work session is tertiary in that. the filming is self-false and that is why the filming at work is a tertiary deception it is a fake fight that seems real it is a fake real fight that seems to arise from something false that pretends to know maybe it is quaternary you know that the brain can't go much further there were four levels of lies, so you had a famous story.

I don't remember who it was where a wrestler was supposedly having an affair with another wrestler's wife and that was the story so the people who write that stuff are He called Booker so the Bookers came up with this story and then the adventure became real because the brain couldn't handle all the deception sometimes, so the two people actually get together because they were supposed to hang out and pretend right now like let's get this right and, just so you know, interestingly enough I I was fascinated by the moment when Vince McMahon declared, I think, before the New Jersey sports commission, that he made this incredible Ike one of the great moments of the 20th century.

I think he realized that he was going to be taxed into oblivion, so we had a choice: should he pay this tax or do something really bold and he stood in front of them and said, "You realize that everything we do "Now it's fake and that could have completely brought down the wrestling world." admitting that there was no reality in this was a potential death blow, so he said this is all a setup, all the fights are nothing, the winners are known in advance, they can't tax us because we're not really a sport and You didn't have any jurisdiction over us and then it turned out that no one cared, so the interesting thing is that young people used to have this concept of "ass marks a mark" as someone who doesn't know that they are being scammed as a smart person or intelligent.

It's someone who knows he's being scammed and still continues to play, so in a sense it was the bet that you could take all the brands and turn them into intelligence and the business empire would continue and you wouldn't have to pay taxes, so it was happening. hanging out with Hulk Hogan and I was trying to check if this was true or not and he said to me, Eric, did you realize who came up with that strategy, so I thought what he says, yeah, I was the one who said that we should believe him, I don't know, it's hard to know, that's the point, okay, yeah, that's where it gets weird.

Have you ever seen the interview where John Stossel accuses a professional wrestler of being fake? He decided to hit him on the head and ask him if that was false. It's really horrible because he fell. He ruptured his eardrum. It means this is a huge man. I forgot about the guy. He ruined the guy's career. The guy who is the fighter, but he punches. him with his hand open, I mean, he's huge. Oh, the whole explosion hits him in the head with his open hand and he drops him. He says he was that fake, who was that fake?

Get up and do that fake and hit it again and drop it. again it was fake well okay let's talk about this I don't think pro wrestling is fake what are you saying? Well, I know what you're saying, yeah, yeah, I mean, these guys, this is, this is the guy that we're going to play, so we. I can hear what he says, okay, we're going to get in trouble here with YouTube, but he hits him on the side of the head and then hits him again, it's dr. D I think Dr. death or something like that is that he right there is that the guy now Jesus Christ time is cruel is that the same guy is that Jesus Christ yes, legendary bounty hunter fighter and author of don't call me fake dr.

David Schultz goes into detail about the fashion arrests he missed the twenty twenty incident where he slapped John Stossel look he has a t-shirt about it and all Jesus Christ is his whole life now yeah well that's his it's his time no It's false, no. it means the artist is qualified, the results are known in advance, the mortality rate of those guys is unlike anything else, you'd have to look like aviators in wingsuits to see people who died at the level that professional wrestlers do , the punishment they receive and, strangely, the Skill Level I, Hulk Hogan, put me in a headlock, why did you let him do that?

Did you ever see what he did to Richard Belzer? Oh look, I'm sorry, I know he's said and done bad things, but there's so much love coming. coming out of Hulk Hogan and I agree brother, he's a great guy, but he put Belzer to sleep on his TV show and Belzer fell him, bounced his head on the floor. Hulk, Hulk had me in a headlock and I know if that guy had as much as I sneeze my head would have come out of my trunk right, I mean that guy is a beast, he's a huge man, he's a huge man, yeah You know, he's lost like four inches in height because of all his back surgeries, yeah, yeah, okay, I met him for the first time.

Like a long time ago, I met him. I didn't know him. I just ran into him on the street in Beverly Hills. I was like a saint and thenlike parkour, but you've never heard of these guys with a ball strike, no, but I mean, it's like the 1920s, well, that'll be after the two times, right? Yes, God, yes, my thirties, forties, the shape is incredible. they jumped off the top and language I've never seen the hellzapoppin sequence don't put hellzapoppin this is just a great chill to dance Elza dancing and then dancing hell is a pop and dancing hell is about yeah okay now go to the middle because there's a lot of setups here that don't go any further, okay Jesus Christ, oh my god, so this is a guy and a girl and then he throws them on his back, oh my god, I mean if people can do anything except the amount of practice and how I would practice something like this, the real thing that would be crazy to practice is that jumping from the top to the division was man, his athletic artistry and I mean, and you know, this is amazing too, oh Oh my god, it's professional wrestling, oh my god, I mean, what?

Are they okay, we should listen to the music, but we would hear no, no, don't do that, but I just want people to be aware of the level of artistry and skill that came out of places like Hart Harlem, it's just everything. This is pure American engineering and this is 41 and you know these are hard shoes with slippery soles oh my god what's amazing is these guys can get traction to do anything and the girl just did that to him. holy it's the best of the best this is weird right oh my god amazing you know what I love about this show.

Joe is that I can take things like this and show them to people like millions at a time, well, what I love about having you. on I would love to learn something about this, this is not me, how I am in the balls and sending it flying, oh my god, people on YouTube watching, you have to Google it, oh okay, yes please do it , this is crazy and this is 1941. God is right and if you want to think about similar associations between men and women and the way powers are passed back and forth between people of equal abilities, it's amazing, well, yeah , I mean, there is not a single person who is the head of this like him. throwing it, oh my god, it's amazing they can do that.

Wow, that's one of the most amazing things about computer technology, like the images they made of World War I, where they took some of those images, colored them and smoothed them, and you. I know I use computers to complete the agitation and it's almost like you've seen my friend Lee. You should have Alecia Lee on the show. Rosebud Ai is going to make models a thing of the past. She can generate tens of thousands. of people who have never existed and you can't tell the difference and you know how your optometrist says if it's better like this or like that fantastic yes, she could create for you you are absolutely perfect you know visual partner and there is no way to have this person or invite him to come out because it doesn't exist and there's no way to know if it's real or fake, so it's becoming more and more common that you don't know Alicia Lee's name Alicia, yes, she has a PhD in like. math or statistics from Berkeley and again one of these people who can do absolutely anything, art, dance, programming, high level theory, so her company is Rosebud, I know she's also an actress, Wonder Woman, Jesus, one of them, uh, yeah, when I confuse people. one of them confuses people, but it's unclear if the models will still have jobs.

Wow, fine, go to work. Skinny, become something more interesting than just a hanger. What about that? And what are the episodes on my album because I released it? this one I do listen to Werner HerzogYes, I thought it was interesting, although he congratulates himself a little, which is a little shocking, but he is the most interesting man. You know, he's a very interesting guy. He's also been in some really terrible movies, like that Jack Reacher movie with Tom Cruise. The best part of that movie is that he drives a 1970 Chevelle Chevelle, I don't know, you don't know about the 70 Chevelle, did you hear that episode of Bret, Bret Weinstein?

Oh, your brother, no, I didn't hear that one, okay? I also heard five or six if you listen to it in episode 19, which is the bread episode. I think it's been the biggest one and except for the one that was released today, it seems like you're preparing me for the one that was released today. I start with Bret's and what's so important about Bret's. Bret's is a story about him predicting that all the lab mice we use from the main supplier, which is the Jackson Laboratory in Bar Harbor Maine. It is possible that it was compromised by their breeding protocols that allowed telomeres to become radically lengthened and that we thought that these mice were representative of all mice and that they had radically lengthened telomeres at the end of their chromosomes, which appears to mediate the level of mitosis that can This happens during histological repair, so if you imagine that your cells can divide a certain number of times, if there is no counter that stops the number of divisions, everything can become tumors and since it has as 30 trillion or 100 trillion cells in your body.

It means that every cell can almost kill you, so it seems that the reason we can die from senescence, that is, aging, is that that is our anti-cancer mechanism, so if you eliminate infectious diseases like viruses and insult of being hit by a car, Two things you have in the end are: either you die from immortality, which is a cancer that wears out cells and can divide an infinite number of times, or you die from the limit of recursion, which is the amount of times the cell can divide, called in biology the Hayflick limit, and Brett predicted from first principles that what we thought about mice, which had radically lengthened telomeres, was only true for laboratory animals because all laboratory animals Laboratory in which we test things like drugs have been broken due to selective breeding, yes.

Because breeding rotations privileged much younger mice and removed all kinds of threats from the environment, and because telomeres do not code for proteins, there are nucleotide sequences that repeat like a counter rather than encoding a translation in the ribosome into amino acid sequences, what you have is the body can mutate if you want and to use the Jackson Labs concept of this very quickly because it's not building something structural, it's just a question of if we have 17 in the extreme or 170 on the extreme because he is acting. Nucleic acid has multiple ways in which it can participate in regulating the body's responses, so in effect, breeding protocols constituted a new system of selective pressures that destroy the effectiveness of all our laboratory animals, potentially saints, just as he predicted from first principles, he said.

I bet if you try wild-type mice instead of lab mice, you'll find that their telomeres aren't as long as you think and this was actually done by Carol Greider, who didn't recognize the prediction, didn't recognize the prediction that you should. . Listen to the show Why didn't she recognize some sugars in the show? Okay, no, because it's, this is, this is serious kids and there's a Nobel Prize winner on the other side of this, so we're taking some risk with that there on the portal is really interesting, so the consequences of this could be serious. It could be that many of the studies based on these tests in mice are useless.

I called Jackson's lab and asked them, Wendy, have you had any? Any changes to your playback protocol? Did they say we don't even count the number of telomeres in telomere length? I say, do you have a history of when you changed breeding protocols? Are you aware of these articles? and she said, what I said, you know these articles by Carol Greider and they said how do you spell glider like the airplane, I said Grider like the Nobel Prize winner and how do you spell that GRE ID er and so on and then they told me, well, no Remember that If we have changed the protocols, I said you are producing laboratory animals.

I imagine you would have a documented history of every change in the time series of how these animals were prepared. I don't know if there's anyone around that. When are you kidding? If you were absent the day they taught science. Who are you? You know this as a single point of failure if true. I can't even. We have been for 20 years. We've been trying to get an answer for like 20 years where no one will reveal the story, I mean this episode it's almost impossible to listen to because at the beginning of the episode I'm absolutely unbearable to Bret because he won't tell the story he's afraid to tell the story of your own life, why?

Won't the story tell because in academia the idea of ​​a punk kid who claims he predicted in a phone call to a Nobel Prize winner that if they tested wild-type mice the telomeres would be radically shorter than the elongated telomeres in the lab test and then the person refuses to acknowledge that such a prediction was made even though we have emails from the lab saying that she refuses to acknowledge it or doesn't. I can't find any. I have reviewed the literature that exists. It's not mentioned anywhere and I and I lived this with bread in real time so I know the events were happening we have communications with that lab as I can't find any acknowledgment from the Johns Hopkins University lab that this interaction ever took place and that because he called and wrote and didn't write an email, he didn't have a paper trail of that prediction now there are consequential emails showing the interaction between the labs, but how many times have you heard someone predict a molecular outcome from first principles in evolutionary theory, this is what Brett was supposed to be famous for and then you know he became like some obscure professor at some ridiculous university and then this happened to him, but that one didn't is his origin story, his origin story is that he's the biology badass who was able to make this prediction from first principles and may have advanced the theory of why we have to die balance between deaths for immortality, i.e. , tumors, and deaths from recursion limits, i.e., telomere-mediated hate movies, hay movie limit, what if something has happened?

Since this information came out, the world has gone crazy over the episode and there has been silence everywhere within what I have called the closed institutional narrative because, to acknowledge it, yes, they really have to throw out how much research we don't know. I don't know, but it raises the question of how much research is compromised by the Rebbe's lab breeding protocols and breeding rotations from a single point of failure at Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor Maine. Wow, episode 19, you know this and you're going to listen to me in a way where you're just going to say that Eric is the biggest idiot I've ever heard in my life, but it's all to pressure Brett to actually talk, you should have him back in the program to talk about your ability.

I would love to, yes, then him. The only thing he wants is that what he wants is a soft dance, what is a soft step is simply wrong. I mean, here's the problem, there's a point after which I'm no longer lord. Nice guy and I'm adamant mm-hmm Brett is just wrong it's a result and a story that needs to be told if there is another side to the story we need to hear the other side of the story and my goal. is for Carol Greider to say that you know what this interaction happened and that she probably could have handled this better because she has jobs that she has done, which is beyond a doubt, one of the most important jobs that has nothing to do with anything of what Brett has done, but it does not give that laboratory the scientific right to deny the existence of this interaction, the importance of the interaction and because there are possible downstream consequences in pharmaceuticals, we need to have an answer and every answer It's interesting, like lab mice have radically elongated aggregate radicals. telomeres are not a problem in some ways, that's fascinating, how is it possible that an animal that has this great adaptation to the laboratory does not affect things that would be interesting if it did affect things that are fascinating, especially if you are running tests on it?

Does it have anything to do with telomeres, well, no, but if it doesn't, for example, let's say you have a really toxic substance and it causes a lot of cell death that requires histological repair. If you have huge, long telomeres, you're going to have the ability to metabolize that toxicity much better, right, you'll be able to take the insult that comes from this, so these mice are probably preternatural II predisposed to radical histological repair, that's why they stay young and young and if you test something that could be, you know, if you're doing toxicology studies, it could be that the telomeres, although you're not testing the telomeres, what you're actually doing is detecting that these broken mice are like the world repair champions. but they stink against cancer, they all die ofcancer, all of them, yeah, almost if basically all of the mice whose telomeres were radically lengthened were let loose long enough, they all died of cancer because they were tricked into one special thing, which is strange.

Yes, we are the best in repair. Wow, right, so think about it, it's the death theory and then cut out all the noise. There are two ways that nature can't find a way to escape if you plunge into mortality, which is that it thinks that all your cells want to want to live forever, you know, and that's a big death, a big danger, either we call it a leak from a lake of resources in computers, or they die because the only thing nature can do is say that you only get a finite number of cell divisions from the beginning now that there are some adjustments to the theory, but if only You get it, if you look at the moles on my face that your people love to comment on in the comments section, they probably started as a wild aftershock. process that stopped at the edge of the mole to prevent that from killing me, so we have cells that go rogue all the time, but what happens is that there are some means to make sure that the process doesn't take place. take down the entire organism, but think of 30 trillion killer cells in your body, all of which could kill you at any moment, it's terrifying and today's podcast, so first of all you can access it now.

I finally have a website which is Eric. Weinstein org and I told you we have to leave this planet and I'm sorry it's just a tough spot on the left but you're serious I have to leave this planet we have to leave this planet why do I have to leave this planet ? look because we can't all be because the plan has the best beaches on this planet says China Russia Iran in the United States under ridiculous leadership there are many reasons why we have to leave this planet we are not good administrators we are not wise enough to stay on this planet we are too powerful, we went through this and by the way you pointed out this quote that says we are gods now but for wisdom and that became a meme so it was very interesting that I gave these lectures I think. in 2013 are pretty much the best quotes of all time, aren't they?

I don't know and Oxford, who originated that quote, it was me, that was you, so when did you say that on your show, what day did I take, which one remember which one you probably do on clip I'm trying to think about what just came out of my tongue and you, it's one of those where I drive down the street and it will appear in my head as the nicest person there is, no, no, it's, it's, it's. a fantastic quote, but it's so right, it's like every once in a while someone can understand everything in one sentence, now we are from God, but for wisdom, that's why we have to get off this planet, diversify because there are too many people who have divine powers. like Donald Trump has a tremendous amount of divine power thanks to our community of physicists, well his ratings look how they are so focused, sorry ok so there's not too much divine power so the best hope I can think of and it's small is that if we could find out what goes beyond Einstein's theory, Einstein Ian's speed limit could be flexible or breakable because we would be in a frame that was larger than what Einstein people often interpret , this is what they call FTL or faster than light travel, but that's not necessarily what I mean, what I mean is that the underlying source code gives us opportunities that we normally don't have, so seven years ago I tried release it.

I tried to give these lectures at Oxford, which is probably the university spiritually closest to what I care about because they care about geometry and physics and the interrelationship, they have kept their face with a faith in that tradition through people like Roger Penrose and Michael the tea and I published this theory of geometric unity or rather I published the video of the lecture that presents this theory, so this was the first time since 1983 84 that I spoke in public when I started this program when I was eighteen nineteen something so and I just posted the video today on our YouTube channel and it's your video. giving this discussion, yeah, so it's introduced by Professor Marcus, so I, who has Richard Dawkins' old job as a Simoni professor for the public understanding of science and he just met me in a bar and caught me - a little drunk I said okay what are you really working on and I said and at first he sounded crazy and then he started thinking about it and asked me?

More questions and he brought me to Oxford, got me an appointment, had me talk to his experts and then decided he wanted me to give what he called special Simoni lectures and are an attempt to go beyond Einstein to search for a unified theory of physics between the two main branches that have resisted unification and that generally in the modern era is confused with the idea of ​​quantifying gravity, but the quantity, quantum gravity is imperative, it is a political program that arises from what it would have been quantum gravity. field theory community before becoming the string theory community, the idea is that we have to take n stein and make him submit to Bohr's will and I don't think that's exactly the case.

I think they were very wrong and synchronized. and somehow they drove the field over the cliff and couldn't ship a product that they couldn't deliver on any of this promise, so when I saw that they were about to fall off the cliff, I changed fields as a college student to mathematics and used the mathematics as a workhorse to study the same kind of underlying structures, but not to get carried away by the politics of physics and I had this theory that I can now talk about for the first time in like 37 years or whatever. and today is the first day I'm free because I kept it to myself, so if you want to ask a question about the geometric unit, why did you keep it to yourself?

I don't trust these people. Don't trust these people, I know there were some people who wrote some Oracle, it wasn't Shawn, it doesn't matter if it's not them, it's a whole system that believes in peer review, believes in its strength. appointments you have to be at a university you have to get an endorsement to use the preprint server there are too few resources and too many sharp elbows do you think there is logic in that method? No, I think it's to preserve it from charlatans and yes. I have to do Jackpot Center, yes, they only want to publish stories, yes, so this way you have to be Spencer, it makes sense, yes, but whatever I'm doing, the mistakes I'm making, so many, what am I doing? mistaken. this theory is okay, I'll find out I'm wrong, give me the simple version of the theory, okay, the first time, never, yes.

You know let's start with the drawings of Usher's hands? mm-hmm, you too, Jamie, do you have any? a picture for that, the key problem we have in a fundamental theory that people don't think about is not why there is something instead of nothing. I don't think we can answer why there is so much that is rich. of almost nothing, so this number shows that if you had a piece of paper, could you become hands that hold pens and use ink to draw on each other? That problem is similar to the problem we face in a fundamental theory if you had the canvas, how would the canvas bring all the wealth that you see around you?

And what I did was I said, okay, we have to go below Einstein, so we have four degrees of freedom, but it's not space and time yet, it's proto. space-time, but before and after I said, "Okay, those four degrees of freedom are like the stands of a stadium and the stands somehow need to build the field and the field is a 14-dimensional space, so if we imagine that you got it right, we have We have four objects here, so the four degrees of freedom correspond to the four objects, then we need a ruler to measure how much of each of these four objects we have, so that would be four additional variables and then you have angles because length and angle are what Einstein gave us in spacetime, so the angles between any two objects are equal to the reciprocal of the angle, so you can count them and there are six angles, so there are four degrees of freedom plus four rulers plus six. protractors which is 14, so there is an auxiliary 14-dimensional space and, in my opinion, you and I, in some ways, are potentially having this conversation in a 14-dimensional world that we perceive in the stands instead of on the field like a four-dimensional conversation which is that we are in a three-dimensional room moving forward in time, so I have called it the observers and the observers are two spaces instead of one Einstein space, you stop there same, sure why 14 dimensions because I'm saying that the fields that The material does not dance primarily in the four dimensions that we think we perceive, but it also dances in the rulers and the protractors.

In other words, if I have XY and Z, I need rulers in the at play and they are the transporters because, like space-time, it has four degrees of freedom plus rules and transporters. say work on the space of all rules and all transporters as part of where these particles and fields can dance so that the rules and transporters are part of the system, not just a choice of particular rules and particular transporters, therefore, By choosing particular rules on particular carriers Einstein is grabbing a tiny strand of space from all the possible rulers and carriers so in effect he recovers a space-time as the act of observers contemplating themselves is a bit poetic but I mean that the choice of a spacetime metric within the The space of all metrics is a section of a 14-dimensional packet over a four-dimensional space.

That's the first kind of weird, mind-blowing thing: This isn't happening in one place, it's happening in two places, at X and at Y, the stands. and the field, there are things that happen in the stands and there are things that happen on the field, so you know when a guy tries to make a free throw and everyone is waving their giant noodles trying to make him miss, there is an interaction. between what's happening in the stands and what's happening on the field and then the observer is grouping two spaces together and says hey, you're confused as to what's happening here some fields are happening in the stands some fields are happening in the court and there everything feels like it's happening in the stands because that's where you're sitting in some strange way and then you have really crazy things that I think one aspect of it is that everyone in theoretical physics is trying to figure out if there are three or more generations, that is, copies of matter, everything in this room is generational and is made up of up quarks, down quarks and electrons, so the up quarks and the down quarks give you protons, neutrons and electrons they give you a kind of interesting personality.

The various chemical elements are also neutrinos, but they flow through us. I'm not going to count them and that's all generation one of the stuff, so everything in that is like plastic Lego, then there's another set of Lego made out of wood and then there's another set of Lego made out of lead, you know, and we don't see those other two LEGO sets, except if we're doing very energetic experiments, then there were three copies of matter and everyone was trying to discover three. or more and I thought maybe it was 2 or less, so one of the aspects of this theory is that the third generation of matter is an imposter; looks like this generation of matter in terms of its particle personalities, but if you were to actually heat up the system, it would unify with a bunch of particles that no one has seen before, so there are predictions about what those new particle properties would be. .

There is also a fourth pseudogeneration of what would be called three-half spin matter, which is not forbidden but has never been seen as fundamental, so it makes predictions for the properties of new spin 1/2 and new spin particles. of three halves. Try to say that there are sectors of matter that I think are uncoupled from the fact that the universe is not actually on the left. straight asymmetric, what would be called chirality and if you think about the weak force, if you have a neutral neutral on a table, it will decay and I think it has an average half-life of 17 minutes when it decays, there is an asymmetry in that decay.

It's called beta decay and that was found by a woman, she brought madame woo from columbia and the cobalt-60 experiment, so in the '50s, this girl madam woo, who should have wanted to know about precious, discovered that when the Cobalt-60 decays through beta decay. Electrons spin one way and not the other, which means the universe is like Marilyn Monroe or Cindy Crawford, which has a birthmark that allows you to distinguish the left. on the right, so this is like the last experimental type that was never fully recognized. She did an experiment. basedin the work of Yang and Lee that for the first time demonstrated that the universe had a preference for one of its left parts over its right, so to speak.

I don't think that preference is fundamental. I think there is another copy of the matter that also The analogy I give is that if you think that if you look at your three fingers in the center of your hand, your middle finger, which is my favorite, is obviously symmetrical about itself, your proportion of digits 2 and 4 is pretty close, but it's determined by how much Tyrone testing you're exposed to in the womb and then your thumb and pinky are way out of place, but you could try to make it symmetrical and say well, yeah, You know that a pinky is like a lame thumb, which it's not if you're just looking at your hand, you're trying to figure out why my hand is asymmetrical, but you don't realize that you have another hand and it's thumb to thumb, no. thumb to little finger, that's symmetry, so when you know, put your fingertips together.

You see, if you didn't know that if you were like Oliver, you had sex and you could only see part of your body, you would think oh, the world is asymmetrical, whereas my belief is that, in weak gravitational situations, this other matter decouples, so you I only see one hand or the other and we're all on one hand, so what I'm starting to do is I'm terrified of talking about these things. I don't have the right credentials, I'm not a physicist. I've been out of this game forever, so I often say the wrong things and break rules and who knows what, and I haven't really talked about it, this is really a loan.

I mean, I've been completely alone on this project. I want my life. What do you think the final result of this project could be? Because you're saying we could leave their planet. What would you like? What are you talking about in terms of the actual implementation of this theory of yours? So, Jamie. If you could mention my answer to the final question about the border, which is what is the last question that Jon Brockman asked when last year he asked the question about the annual border and that is the question about the annual border, yes, I would ask him to about 200 people, many of them. physicists or biologists or mathematicians you would ask a question and they would write a paper and then every year I would publish it as a book when I did that for 10 years I finally got tired of it and he said, ok, this is my Last year we sold out this what's the last question, so this is the question I asked.

Does something unprecedented happen when we finally learn our own source code? Now no one noticed this, but that's my concern, what happens when? the universe finally contemplates itself when we are the first, like we were always worried that the AI ​​would become self-aware over there Skynet mm-hmm, okay, we are the AI ​​and we are about to become self-aware If we can discover what our own source code is, we are Skynet, then you are talking about the source code of reality itself, yes, and our perception, our limited perceptions of reality, are giving us a distorted view of what the landscape really is. .

I'm trying. to make sure I was holding this back because I'm afraid of what's going to be unlocked and now that I know we're willing to elect Donald Trump, not stockpile masks, play with China, be Putin, all these things, screw this. We're going to lose running this planet to Armageddon if we don't get some adults in the room, so I don't know if I'm an adult, but I'm willing to compete for leadership by putting something in. After looking into it and seeing where it goes, what? what is your biggest fear about this source code? I don't know, a better term mastered well last time we got a serious idea of ​​the way nuclei worked with a bit of geometry from Stanislaw Ulam and Edward Teller they gave us the namesake of the bikini which was a scary moment we changed everything changed in 19 I think it was 54 the namesake of the bikini a bikini atoll was an island in the Pacific where a hydrogen device exploded is what's inside those crazy images where you could see the water rising a mile high towards the beautiful sky, yes, that's what it is, yes, but they did it very well, they did it for a period of time.

And then he moved on to his question, What if what? It is still expensive to create fusion devices, so we do not know of any people who possess the ability to create fusion devices. If you remember at some point someone made a working nuclear reactor out of waste smoke. detectors and we have like 500 smoke detectors, they took out the radioactive element, they created a reactor, I really believe that, boy, yeah, probably a kid who couldn't get into Harvard, so we have a situation where we don't know when ordinary humans and currents you will get unlimited destructive power, you know, try to imagine the Columbine kids weaponizing viruses or something, one of the great dangers. is that great power, I can't say what the power would be if the theory is correct, it could give us the ability to escape, I could but you say escape, yeah, why do we have to escape?

This is what I am. I'm always so confused because even when Elon talks about going to Mars, yeah, swamp quick sucks. Mars sucks. Can't you fix it? That would be the best approach. Well, you wouldn't agree on that, yes, what we disagree on. What I believe is that I am convinced that we do not have the capacity to manage this place, why don't you think that we are better now than we were a thousand years ago? No, no, so Genghis Khan was doing a better job than Genghis. Khan was doing a better job because he didn't have unlimited power.

Just try to imagine it, try to imagine a full nuclear exchange and then we'll have this conversation, so you're worried that nuclear war just isn't possible. but inevitable is certainly inevitable given a long enough time series because all these weapons will just get cheaper there are no countermeasures it's too easy to destroy things relative to the right build do you think that when we look at leadership failure on the scale we're at seeing because of this pandemic that this is indicative of how it would go no matter what went wrong yes yes like if this was a wildfire problem if it was a climate destruction problem if this was a problem volcanoes hurricanes nuclear war the same the same as You don't, here's a weird one the suit look look at the story Jamie of SU vyas eruptions per year since the 19th century a bit, I guess Wikipedia would probably have a list and the last one was in 1944-45, during World War II, that several planes were grounded and then Vesuvius stopped erupting, as it happened while they were overdue for the eruption of Vesuvius and then when the IQ guy erupted in Iceland as if we didn't realize that the era of Jet travel in the developed world had happened during an incredibly quiet period of volcanic activity, so did we build some kind of volcanic sensitivity into these planes?

No, we just grounded the fleet and there's a volcano not far from where I can, a friend named Kepler. makes IQ cool dude look like child's play yeah so you gotta look at the big nap as the biggest danger for all of us and this point about being Jewish is you know you're really Jewish. Chet ben shapiro makes a point that is not very popular, which is that many people call themselves Jews, they are not really Jews, they are really Jews, on the way out, people who cannot understand why they maintain these traditions, they like spend three days. one year muttering a few words there is something intrinsically Jewish about wanting gold bars somewhere you can grab them you know where the exits of a building are like you have to be prepared because the problem with antisemitism is leaving at any time and Jews have always lived so and many of us have forgotten it because we have become soft in a world where, you know, the prevailing anti-Semitism has been under control in the US for a long time and I think we have become strangely denaturalized because we have not lived with open anti-Semitism.

You see a surge in the comments section of every video, but it's incredibly important to stay in a state of readiness and I've tried to maintain that story. about Pesach and the Exodus to Israel from what the Jews call Mitzrayim, which means the narrow places of Egypt, so my opinion is that the Jews had a great run in Egypt and we are all Jews and the land is Mitzrayim and it is time to go to where we are. going we don't know if we can go anywhere this is a recap of our previous conversation right, we have to know if exoplanets are viable, if we can expand and whether or not they are in the middle of a big dream, well, it's possible that I'm right , but if we're running a million different experiments, it's different than if we're running an experiment correlated with Donald Trump commanding the most dangerous machine ever created in the world.

That wasn't my plan, so the wording of this. theory, what you're trying to do is revolutionize space travel, no, what you're trying to do is make it possible for us and we found out that we've been stuck for almost 50 years in theoretical physics, so set it up too to be the simpler. way of saying, there is no one younger than Frank will prove who was born in 1951 has gone to Stockholm to make a discovery in fundamental theoretical physics made since 1973 physics, indeed, the prestige part of physics came to an end at the beginning of the 70's when everything changed across the board we had a broad economic shift in our world Jamie, do you want to increase GDP versus average male income?

Something strange happened in the early 1970s that we should all be talking about and that almost no one knows about and one of the things that happened was like physics, if we come to an end, a lot of physicists will be fine, you'll see that graph mm -hmm so explain to people they are just listening so what it shows is from 1947 to about 1973 GDP and Median Male Income are rising at the same time they are almost perfectly correlated mm-hm and then abruptly the average male income stabilizes from about 1973 to 2000 2010 in this graph and the GDP is still increasing now, that is, people always talk about the singularity when, as we will become one with robots and AI will take over this was the actual singularity that happened and it went relatively unnoticed and that's what started raining again.

The median male income is irrelevant, it is just an indicator that is particularly clear to show you that that is when the action occurred my belief is that since the early 70's very little has progressed in our society that is not true for computers that has been like the big bright spot not true for fracking there are some innovations in images but overall in an average room if you subtract the screens you can't definitively understand that room didn't exist in 1973 because we stopped growing, we went crazy because everything It was based on growth, it was all a scheme that turned into a Ponzi scheme when the growth dried up, so since then we have been emptying ourselves and becoming crazier and more removed from reality and we have to figure out where we are and my belief was that our economy was created almost entirely by theoretical physics.

Theoretical physics underlies chemistry, so the chemical revolutions like plastics of the Graduate gave us the semiconductor from which we do our computing gave us the world wide web that emerged from CERN gave us telecommunications that used the electromagnetic spectrum gives us medical images of tomography that we don't really appreciate theoretical physics has been the great success story of our time and the theoretical physics community is the intellectual SEAL Team six of the world and we pay them less, we are there with fewer resources, now they are completely unethical because we have paid them less and that's why Michael how come they don't talk about their failures they don't talk about who did what they are not fair and decent because there are not enough resources and when resources are scarce people become psychopaths and like string theory it is simply a complete failure we can't argue with that because the baby boomers also use it, we are making great progress while they actually do nothing.

I mean, I'm not saying they're not doing anything, they weren't making contact with physics, they became mathematicians. like a group of soldiers in generals who are playing war games in peacetime, it is related to what they are supposed to do, but they had nothing to do, so they went to the gym and ran on a treadmill instead In fact. running marathons, so we have a terrible situation where the community that powered our economy and gave us this incredible power in the world through nuclear weapons and the MIT radiation lab and all that has gone into decline and is very dangerous to restart theoretical physics. so it's been safe because there hasn't been anything new that we can use leaving my network.

My belief now is that we have to talk about a thousand year solution for human life with viruses armed with weaponized nuclei, I mean theThe amount of damage we can do is amazing and that will restart at some point as the siesta is coming to an end as we are living it, this is the end of the siesta three months ago we were all leading la la you know, lives beautiful doing whatever We were struggling, we were, you know, frustrated, but we weren't even, but when she thinks this is not something we're going to get over, we're going to get back to normal in December 2019, so let's say we do it well. we came up with a killer treatment we restock all the masks we have vaccines we all spend how much time watching our leaders tell us to stay put I mean we all went through this movie I don't think I'm seeing conversations about open borders it changed do you want here ?

Should we talk about open borders today? let's keep doing the escape from the planet thing and your theory, well, okay, because we've taken a lot of detours and why 84 30, okay, so this theory the geometric unit replaces space. -time then thinking about a fundamental theory is a newspaper story is who what sorry is where when what is space and time who what who would be the fermions that is to say matter electrons quarks and what would be the force that pushes them how and why what what would the equations be like and why would it be something called Lagrangian and what this does is say that there used to be two origins for physics, there was spacetime that Einstein gave us and then there is this thing called SU 3 crusts u su 2 cross u 1 that comes from nowhere that anyone knows what it is that well you and I see each other through photons photons scatter from us and are perceived by our eyes photons are associated with electromagnetism and there is actually a circle in each space-time point so here we are in space my fingers are up here between us and I'm going to shoot at a particular instant at that point of the shot there was a circle like there is a point, a circle and all the other points in space . -time that we do not perceive that generates all the electromagnetism so call it the mysterious u1 we do not know where this u1 comes from why there is a hidden circle that generates the electromagnetism that you and I use to make eye contact that we use to send electronic signals like our Wi-Fi there is not only a circle but there is also a three-dimensional object called su 2 and an 8-dimensional object called su 3 and indeed su2 generates the weak force which is not entirely correct, it is actually called weak isospin and su3 generates the strong force that is in the nose, so not all the protons in your body separate since they are positively charged and like charges repel each other, so why don't you explode?

That is the strong force and it comes out of something called SU 3 we have two origin stories one origin story is the story of space and time the other origin story is the story of SU 3 cross su 2 cross u 1 and what I did was to get rid of the freedom to choose the symmetries that generate the personalities of the part of the particles that make up this place and then the question is well, I called it the magic bean trade because if you think about Jack and the beanstalk, Jack gives away the family cow to get beans, which seems like the worst trade ever, but the beans actually contained a lot more than previously understood, so Jack gets the better end of the trade because the beans allow him to do something. crazy, so that's what I did.

I gave away the freedom to choose. symmetries to generate the properties of the particles, I tied my hands in the same way that Einstein would tie his hands and then I tried to show that you could recover these properties of the particles by trusting that the theory would self-assemble and those are the hands that draw the hands, so the ideas that generated the fermions at the top of the space of all the rules and protractors at the top of the four to four dimensions and the natural object that would be called spinners or chimeric spinners when perceived in the four dimensional object, that is, when you remove the information from the second world that cut was created in the first from the field to the stands, the properties of the particles seem to be there, they were more or less the correct properties of the particles that we see now, when I started this in the early '80s, we didn't know. that neutrinos had mass and that's why we thought there could only be 15 particles in a generation and my stuff would only work if the number of particles in the generation was two to the power N, so the joke when I was in college was: "I hope let that happen too." the fourth is equal to 15 now it can't be because the fourth is 16 but fortunately for me it was discovered that neutrinos had mass and that changed the probability of there being 16 particles so it's kind of strange dealing with the fundamentals. incompatibility of the two theories general relativity of Einstein and quantum theory of Bohr and Dirac in the 70s we discovered that there was a geometry that governed the Dirac board part of the world called eros Monte in geometry of the era of Charles week of analysis and Einstein itself It was used by Bernhard Riemann, a German mathematician, his geometries, so my tactic and the reason why it is called a geometric unit is that the two branches of physics are derived from two geometries, so instead of saying that it is quantify geometry, which is quantum field theory, the imperialist perspective to which Stein must submit. bored the real problem is that there is a fight between the parents who are bernhard riemann and charles aricema now we don't know those names so well and that's why my goal was to say is there a world in which these two geometries and the advantages of these two geometries they could be made to work together and generally there isn't, but there is one case where it works, which is the issue of natural spinners, so the whole tactic was to say what if the world wasn't generic? world but a very natural and peculiar world where certain games work that would not work in a generic situation, so what I tried to do was recover Einstein in the same way that Einstein tried to recover Newton from a more fundamental theory and the incompatibility is that Einstein had to compress something called the full Riemann curvature tensor, which is the kind of measure of how deformed something is, so he broke that beast that tells you the deformation of something into two pieces, threw one of them called viola curvature and then adjusted the properties of the other two that were left to create general relativity, so mine does that, but it also has another property called gauge invariance.

Gauge invariance is the kind of cynical wildness of particle theory and this is only possible in very limited circumstances and the tactic was what if the world was in that small class where this game can work? So it's kind of a theory of career suicide because if it doesn't work out this way, you end up with nothing, so think about that escape shaft on the Death Star, this little vulnerability, and man, you better hope that works. What are you trying to do with this? But by posting this with this discussion, this video that you're posting, do you expect there to be more? people look at it and try to implement it and then ultimately this would be something that would allow people to do what they do, try it in the revolutionized space.

I don't know, I didn't know if I wanted the guy to have his own source code, so I was invited, but you were serious about this, so this is very close to home, you know, I love you. I came into this show and said, it's true, we have to get off this planet. We made a joke about getting high and all that, but I've always taken what I say very seriously now, if you ask me on a personal level, I started this for a lot of personal reasons. I always thought that the idea of ​​wanting to go beyond Albert Einstein was something that everyone would want when they grew up. a - it didn't occur to me that there was anything else you wanted to do with your life so it seemed like the most natural thing in the world I want to understand why we are here well, that means you're doing what you're supposed to do, yes, you found your network, I found my niche and then this kind of completely strange thing started because I wasn't a good math student, but I had to go to the best place and then.

How does a math major with a B-minus in high school go to Harvard University with a master's degree at age 19? You know, it's pure will because he wasn't a good kid at math, so I just went crazy. I arrived there. I taught myself whatever. It's that I don't have an advisor, which is very unusual and I became entwined with this theory and this theory has also been separating me from the people that I love in the world that I am in. I never knew if I'm crazy or if I have something or not, I don't know if it unleashes power, it works or it just unleashes destructive power.

Are you willing to have conversations like debates with detractors or critics of this? I'm willing to have discussions with constructive critics and, in fact, I've done well because publicly you've said it privately, in fact, mainly, yes, yes, I mean, I've talked to people like NEMA or Connie Hamed at the Institute of Advanced Studies, who I think are fantastic. another guy named Louise alvarez gal May at the Symons Institute, he's not very difficult for the average person to follow, but I think he's not a bad person, I understand, listen to what I'm saying, I think it would be incredibly valuable, just to post it for the average person of everyone.

Yes, but I'm referring to this conversation. I know you're saying it's not for the average person, but just to have it available to everyone so if they want they can go through it slowly and try to understand it little by little and put it together. I should talk about this thing I'm building, I shouldn't even say I'm building it, there's a fanatical or growing community around the portal so what we're doing that's different and there's a 24/7 Discord server. week where people are talking. Like if you're ever bored or lonely, these people are always there and/or that frontier lately isn't for you, honey, but we've been trying to recruit a group of artists because I think art is part of the secret weapon to getting out. forward.

I don't think you know how crazy it was when we did the hopf-fibration here mm-hmm, it was like Close Encounters, all these artists started making jump vibes like I'm going to Temecula on this guy, Neko Neko miners has a huge hopf-fiberation. in your backyard when you leave this show is like people who get their faces tattooed on their arms, right? I am aware of all these things. I simply choose to close the door. I'm right there with them, yeah, and do that, good luck. Well, because we're smaller, that's true, that's true, too, but also a lot of what I do requires me to think on my own.

I have to be alone and spend a lot of time staring into space, yes, yes, me too. But what I'm saying is that when it comes to people following the story, mm-hmm, artists and computer scientists will help us eliminate AIDS, like, for example, can you open Eric Weinstein's organization? There is a visualization sketched on the door. there's a portal on the website, go well, so go down, you'll see that door, no, you don't know why that's the clip they took. Beyond that, there should be something right here. This is an image of a fiber bundle and the path elevation property in relation to a connection, so those floating planes that were the ones generating electromagnetism are called horizontal subspaces and you're actually looking at gauge theory in that image, so What you're saying is that the value of artists coming on board is that they can make a visual interpretation of this that can be cartoons like there's a guy called if you knew Grant Sanderson does a show called Three Blues and One. brown, which is one of the best math videos you'll ever see.

It just sucks people in and you think you're learning relatively difficult math that someone has made visually beautiful. This guy is a national treasure and I hope to get a grant for the program. You know, we were experimenting when we had Roger Penrose. on the show I said I'm not going to talk about quantum consciousness, I'm going to talk to you about tornadoes and about their contributions to the field and what my community did was build something called the dot wiki portal, so if you open the dot wiki portal, there's an ecosystem complete that is digesting what happens in our episodes or the lay audience, a child of one of the most amazing things on the Internet and something like your podcast, if you build it, they will come, you know? you have a bigger audience.

I will say that I think I have the best audience in the world. These guys like to go back and forth on the episodes or how many episodes you've had so far. There are 28, yes. Oh, Eric Lewis, by the way, you should have. In my opinion, the best pianist playing right now, so if you like, if you go or go to the chart walls, I love that you're doing all this and still interviewing porn stars and James O'Keefe, hey, we want. everyone, yes, I love this cancellation, yes, well, not only that, I just love that you are a curious person and that you really want to communicate with thepeople besides being an astronaut, so, for example, we have this wall tome project with graphics where we start with this paragraph by Ed Witten, if you go down, you will see that they are figuring out how Ed Witten's paragraph fails on this wall that was chiseled in Indiana limestone at Stony Brook in New York, which has all These below are the paragraph that attempts to summarize the universe as we understood it in the modern era in prose and I recommend everyone to read it and then if you come down from there, there's this plant, yeah, wow, there's a clickable thing.

Below that, below that graph, for example, this is the plan for this sculpture that Jim Simon, the largest hedge fund manager in the world, paid for and if you click on any of these things, these ruins are like uncertainty , Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, which my people are digesting. everything we say, everything we point out and helping each other understand what's going on in my program so we don't have to spend all the time on the superficial part. Wow, it's like this is heavy, oh my gosh, but this is What's interesting, I learned this from you, you actually said because I didn't think it was a smart idea at all and people are so eager to get into what follow we want to turn around our critic Rissalah and become the butterfly we were destined to be we're tired of being caterpillars yeah yeah I know you're listening to five Meo DMT but that wasn't when I was thinking no it's I mean, I really believe that what you are showing me is a branch of what humanity is trying to do with creativity, with curiosity, with the thirst for innovation, that's it, it's time to move to the next level and we are trying on the funniest part, it's like the athletic greens brought it and, again, well. products, however, this is the curious thing about sponsorship.

You see, my grandfather was a salesman and in a strange way, I'm living a romantic dream of connecting with my grandfather who sold used clothes door to door. He was a scheme. seller and he has surprised me how much I enjoy all the products he advertises, like the sleeping mat that cools you so you don't wake up in a puddle of your own sweat. Incredible, it's great. I've lost 17. pounds through athletic greens, well you've also stopped things in your face with things that you should need, not just athletic greens, not the yard point, you know, you know your face looks there, yeah, it It is, but part of it is because I figured out how to fit in.

I turned it into a program where intermittent fasting started to show results. This is a man we could talk to forever, but unfortunately I have to end this, but I'm going to watch your video and then I'll watch it. Hello, I will do it. Alright. twice and I'm going to try to figure it out hey and Joe, sometime let's hang out and I'd love to show you exactly what's custom made for any questions without worrying about yes and let's do it. I can't wait and I just wanted to say thank you again for everything, but now you only make two appearances on your show.

I haven't called any of them and thank you for calling me on your show, yes, on your show, yes, my show. what's good on my show on my show yeah, yeah, okay, you got it, I owe you: you're the best, thank you sir, you're the best, bye everyone, one thing less Eric Weinstein's organization, please sign up on our mailing list so we can I'll find you after yes, go get your mind back, good luck, good luck to everyone, thanks bro, it's okay, bye, everyone stay safe.