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Joe Rogan & Colion Noir - How Gun Control Lobby Exploits Inner City Violence to Push Gun Control

Apr 09, 2024
Well, that's what I wanted to talk to you about one of the things like, did anything change once people started buying guns? When there was this moment where the number of gun sales went up something crazy, it was crazy like 40 percent. higher than that really yeah, okay let's go look for it, suppose I'm thinking it's like 40, jeremy, what do you think? What's your guess? What is the percentage? If that sounds good. I just have a different question, but okay, okay, I'm looking for that. because I see the 500,000 to 3 million statistic, but it's why the center for disease

control

would really be because they want to make it a health care issue, because if that's the case, you hear them say it all the time, they say this.
joe rogan colion noir   how gun control lobby exploits inner city violence to push gun control
It is a public health problem. It's easier to sell gun

control

when you consider it public. It's no different than you think. Be coveted in the vaccine. Why wouldn't it be the ATF? Because it's easier to sell it as a public health problem. I know, but firearms are literally in their title, yes, exactly, and if you say it the way Biden says it, you change the tobacco afterwards, but you have to, yes, they are very good, the only thing I will say about them and When I say them I mean the weapon. control

lobby

that generally speaking and I have a lot of people who follow me who are more liberal and they hate when I mention Democrats, they hate it because they think I'm just trying to

push

this one-sided narrative regarding the Republicans, no, that's what It's, if you look at all the gun control legislation, you look at anyone who's

push

ing for gun control, the vast majority of them, I'm talking, 99 of the time are Democrats, why do you think that's because Democrats are the Democratic ideology is based on broader government, so you can't necessarily exert your control over a group of people if they have something as self-sufficient as a firearm.
joe rogan colion noir   how gun control lobby exploits inner city violence to push gun control

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Do you really think that's what it is? I think that's what I agree with. I think the ideology behind being a leftist person is that you want less

violence

and I think maybe you're more reluctant to take into account true human nature and the true potential collapse of society that would make you need a gun, I think they are more idealistic, more utopian and perhaps more delusional, I think the people who vote Democrat believe that I think the people in power have a different agenda, I think I think theirs, and honestly they are, they are the proverbial hammer. , so when you're in when your core ideologies are based on bigger government you think the solution to everything is more government, so if a shooting happens, right? and come on, do we really believe that the government is the most efficient entity in To solve problems in our country, no one complains about the government all the time, but when you are the government and something like a shooting happens and people like us have to do something about that, okay, more government, let's get rid of these laws here to restrict that taking. that, then they take on a more apparent role rather than an entity designed to find real solutions to solve a problem, so they say okay, if this small number of people are killing people with guns, take away the guns, it's just a oversimplified approach to uh. to any problem that arises because it's not really about getting to the real issue of the problem, they just want to make it look like they're doing something about it, so they'll just take the easiest approach or try it. making him a scapegoat for something because at the end of the day they realize that their ineptitude with respect to leadership is going to go into overdrive, more specifically in our urban centers, so if the vast majority I mean about 80 percent percent of gun homicides in this country come from our urban centers and we have 400 million guns in this country, are there really 80 damn close?
joe rogan colion noir   how gun control lobby exploits inner city violence to push gun control
Yes, it's tall, it's tall. I'm talking about gun homicides, no, not like gun deaths, right, um, because and it's driven by gangs and drug-related

violence

, that's when with gun deaths then you start to include suicide exactly, yes, and if you understand that to mean that we are having a high concentration of a high concentrated level of violence in very specific areas of this country, and as a result of that you look at that and say, well, we have a high concentration, we have an era of violence concentrated in specific areas, but we still have guns across the country that don't have this violence, so clearly there is something else going on here other than the fact that there are guns and that predominantly these urban centers are targeted by Democrats it is what it is, it isn't and they have exactly crazier gun control policies so it stands to reason that you're not doing something in these places that you should be doing to deal with this violence yeah and then you know in my research from my study when I was reading this book, it's called, I think it's like, "don't shoot" or something, I don't remember. exact title, so I was reading this book and it was talking about this program called ceasefire.
joe rogan colion noir   how gun control lobby exploits inner city violence to push gun control
There is a program currently called ceasefire, but I don't think it's the same program, or it's an old shell of itself, but you. I know this guy, this criminologist who was proposed and I think it was done in Boston and they were dealing with a lot of violence in their

inner

cities and what they did was put together a program that was a very holistic approach to violence and Basically, the police They met together with community leaders, etc., and knew who the perpetrators of this violence were. You have to think about it. Do we really honestly believe that the vast majority of these

inner

city

kids are murderers?
No, it takes a very specific type of person to be a murderer, which is why many of the murders that take place in these places are committed by a group of children highly concentrated in these areas and the vast majority of the time the police know who are they. The kids are police, they know who the perpetrators of this violence are and so what they did was they got together, they said, "okay, this is what we're going to do" and they brought in the gang leaders and then the kids, The children who were on the street and others got together and I look, we are not going to say that we are not going to rescue drug trafficking because I mean, whatever happens with respect to that, but if the bodies continue, we are going to make their lives incredibly difficult in these times. streets, really difficult and as time went on, the violence stopped, the number decreased because, at the end of the day, you have to think about that a lot of these kids carry guns, not because they want to go and kill someone, they carry guns because they have afraid of growing up, they have grown up in an environment that has forced them to adopt the lifestyle that they lead in general, so if I am a child and even if I do not want to participate in this particular lifestyle, if that is the only thing I surrounds me and I know that at any moment my life could be threatened, I will also carry a gun or even if a child who is like look I just want I want to earn some extra money I'm not I'm not justifying drug trafficking I'm justifying the sale of drugs but if I'm a kid that just says you know what I want it makes me want to sell money because I grew up and the only form of success I've ever seen was drug dealers in my area so I'm going to sell drugs of course he'll take a fire.
I'm selling drugs. there will be other people who will try to take your product, etc., etc., it doesn't necessarily mean it's a killer, so when you focus completely on the firearm and only the firearm, it doesn't do anything. actually dealing with the issue that's good the underlying problem that's happening in these places is a socioeconomic problem when you grow up in poverty I'm sorry there's going to be a bias regarding your area you're going to have more violence there because what's the economy? natural there drugs, that's one of the strangest aspects of gun violence is the reluctance to address the violence in the

city

centers while focusing on the violence of the rare mass shooter because the city center is like you look south.
On the Chicago side it's a common occurrence, almost every weekend there are a ton of homicides. I think the reason is because, as you mentioned, how do you prevent violence in the city center? You're going to have to fix the crime, no, no, I mean. just you, how exactly do you avoid staying outside the city center? However, when people feel that a random yo-yo can walk into a store and start shooting people, it terrifies them, which is understandable, yes, it's totally understandable, but none of these laws are proposing to do any thing to stop this, they won't, so it begs the question: is the goal really to try to save lives or are they taking advantage of these shootings to achieve this specific agenda that they approved today?
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