Colion Noir: Gun Nuts | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

but first, he's a lawyer and the provocateur gun rights enthusiast who hosts NRA TV's

noir

show kolya Anwar. I have watched your videos many

time

s. You are very good at what you do. Thank you. I am NOT a gun lover. It's okay if I say it. the term crazy I hope you

real

ize that it is not an insult. I don't take it so well. I don't mean that you're not crazy, yes, I mean something that you

real

ly love today. I am an incredibly passionate council. I'm a drug fanatic, not all drugs just the ones I can get, okay, but when I watch your videos, you know I am very often, you know, at the end you have a kind of smile like I've exposed it and you know that.

You earn your smile because people like me, who don't really like guns, don't know much about guns and the thing with you I really think is annoying, isn't it that people like to talk about guns and No? I don't know about guns, yes, I'm not limited by your lack of knowledge, what are the misconceptions that bother you the most? There are two dynamics, there is the actual physical component of the gun and then the individuals, as we go crazy with guns. right, so there's that aspect of saying, for example, semi-automatic right, yeah, tell me about that vast majority of your guns, almost all of them are semi-automatic, almost all of them are fine, right, I didn't know that, yeah, I didn't know that, etc. those things that you would learn after following the rabbit down the hole, so to speak, and the semiotic meaning, you have to pull the trigger and once you hit a bullet and that's almost every gun, more or less, yeah, not just, so they seem to be obsessed with the ar-15 yeah so it doesn't mean assault rifle that's a common misconception right the R stands for Armalite rifle which is the actual red rifle and it's a semi-automatic rifle in the sense that you pull the trigger once you get one. get a round, so why do people think liberals wouldn't be honest?

Why did they think getting rid of the AR-15 would help so much to solve this problem? And tell me why I wouldn't, you know, as the saying goes: Optics. Everything is alright? There's a certain theatricality with guns in general, especially when you start thinking about things like what are they 15, what are they like, 14. You see, it's big, usually most people who aren't very familiar with guns, They generally know them. through movies, so you see the movies with all the bad guys spraying and praying doing all this crazy stuff with guns and then you see that you actually say, oh my God, I don't want them near me or on the streets and that It ends up happening, they take it and then they see it and it's like they don't know much, the knowledge base isn't very high, so what they end up doing is they start to feel good because it evokes a feeling like that.

It's the theatrics behind it, they're loud, there's a muzzle flash, you know all that stuff and you could say we like it, there's a lot of hypocrisy there, if guns weren't so popular, why do they dominate movies as much as they do? do? because there's a fascination there like, yeah, it's like going to an amusement park, right? And that's why I tell gun fans to be honest and admit that they love guns and that there is some kind of vice in that, like they know how to bet alcohol, drugs. and these are all things that have some collateral damage, so I'm willing to live with them because you can't tell me I can't smoke marijuana because some people will be harmed by it mm-hmm you know you can't organize society around what some people could totally make or get hurt, then you would admit that you just like guns, you're like holding them, you want to have sex with them, it's multifaceted, so there's an element of recreation, there's an element of sport. an element of protection right there and then there's an element of philosophy regarding the foundation on which this country was founded, so it's incredibly multifaceted, so it ends up happening that a lot of people who don't really know much about firearms They have a very short-sighted vision. of them and the only lens through which they see them is that they are the bad things that bad people do.

I feel like it's a lot of self-sufficiency; That's not what you feel at all. I get it from your videos, well, it's self-sufficiency based on reality, right, you don't trust the police to show up, it's not that I don't, they could shoot you, there's always a chance that everything turns out okay, but that's not the case. It is my main concern, my main concern is that at the right moment, when something arises where I have to defend my life, I would not be in a position to do absolutely everything possible to get out of there alive together with the people I love. and with anyone.

Others that seem to be around I care about, right, but I had killer Mike here um about a month ago he was on your show and he got in a lot of trouble for talking about guns, no he got in a lot of trouble just for being on my show. just from being on the show, but you guys made some interesting points about how it's very easy for people who live in safe neighborhoods to talk about gun control, it's a whole different story for other people who don't have that luxury, yeah. I think one of the things that ends up happening when we start talking about some of the gun control measures that people are pushing is how they disproportionately affect people who are in lower economic backgrounds and in backgrounds that have higher of violence, right? you said before that I can live in a gated community and have a security guard outside.

I'll feel relatively safe even then something might happen, but if let's say for example I'm a single mother and I live somewhere in the center of the city and I have two jobs and I can't afford a car and I have to walk late at night and when I leave work at night and I walk back home or if I'm at home with my children in an environment where there are home invasions, right, me as a woman in that particular situation in that particular situation and anyone. I don't want him protecting my life to be a competition.

I want it to be as unbalanced as possible because I'm not the one threatening someone's life. I'm going to live my life and I'm someone who's brilliant with that, so I'll be in the best possible position to protect myself against that entitlement and I'm sympathetic to the argument that if you're in a horrible situation, that would be a good thing. If a good guy had a gun and we've seen it many

time

s and I know you think they don't report it, I don't think they reported it enough compared to what's right, but my question is where does that get us?

I'm not going back to the Old West, where we're all tied up all the time. Oh, we're fine. I don't feel it. I'm sorry. There's a gun somewhere around here. I hope so. You're right, yes, but not everyone because not everyone can. do it, I mean you don't really want teachers to have guns, right? I just don't have a problem with arming teachers, but teachers don't, there's a contingency, there's a contingency, this is where the NRA loses me, I mean, they lose. In many places, but a place like that doesn't seem reasonable. I can't understand there being a guarded school and I think if the park guard who didn't do his job had done his job, we would be having a different debate.

Absolutely not teachers, but look, here's the thing about this conversation, one of the biggest problems I've seen is that we've all split up into our separate corners and just throw attacks at each other, we're all in agreement. . that we want to find a solution to these problems that we all agree that we just disagree on how we do it so that Irish can respect their position and not want to arm teachers the way I see it is when I look at some of these mass shootings that occurred in the past, many of these teachers had to sacrifice themselves to protect their students and so my mind goes well, why not put them in the best position to fight the evil person that walks into the class?

So instead of making them, instead of being sacrificial lambs, the fighters are now willing to die for these students, so why not put them in the position of fighting for them because their teachers don't want them, they don't want them. have them? Not that job anymore, anyone the guard wants to teach physics to is absolutely right, but the moment someone walks into that classroom with the gun and starts shooting at the kids, well, they have no choice, then The only options they have is to sacrifice themselves. So, fight, what about background checks? No, twenty percent of the people in this country get their guns without having to pass any type of criminal check and when you say that would give me some basis behind it, well, if you're talking about private. cells yeah I mean they get them from a relative who gives up on them or you know it's passed down from parents to children or at a gun show or something and the NR used to be to close all those loopholes yeah loopholes by Wayne Wayne LaPierre, loopholes, well, when I say loopholes, what do you mean?

Well, this is what Wayne. I'm going to ask you this because it's funny because when most people think of an NRA spokesperson, they don't think of you. Okay, fair enough, did they reveal LaPierre? Based on the opinion of the people, Wayne LaPierre in 1999, we believe it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. There are no escapes for anyone. What changed? Yeah, but when you go to a gun show and buy a firearm, is it really a program? I don't know because there was never any masturbation. No, I'm good with regular masturbation, but a program sounds like Annie Oakley, it sounds like it.

You know, the program is still good, but it's really a sale, right? What is a gun show, yes, so you can buy guns, but why do they call it a gun show? Well, when I first went to a gun show, I treated it like one. You really went there because what it is is an aggregation of a bunch of weapons that you normally like, yeah, but wouldn't it be nice if we had a hundred percent of the people that had them, but the bottom line wouldn't be good, sure, but How is that done from a private point of view, well, I don't know, I mean, I know that you are against any type of search because you believe that it leads to confiscation, but well, it has been done before, although in the United States Not in the United States, in the United States that is what we are trying to prevent, but that is what it has been like.

It happened in places where people use them as shining beacon examples of what we should do about gun control here in America. I can't imagine a country that loves its guns as much as this country. I mean, we have almost half of the weapons in the world with 4% of the population. I can't imagine anyone has ever tried to take guns away from people and if the people who were taking guns away are doing it, they're usually people who like guns, they're law enforcement, you know, and Discuss with that, yeah, look, I'm a little more reasonable these days, now that Trump is president, but I still think that if people came after me to get revenge if I responded to them, then they could go back to forever. superior fire preparedness, the government will always outgun you, so why fear?

So if perhaps I understand that the 2nd amendment was properly written to protect us and be in a position to fight against a tyrannical government, then why not provide us with the same? guns if the guns I have now aren't really going to be enough Gary Wilson says the Second Amendment listen to this I want to get to the reaction shows us the extent to which the poison of slavery permeated the Constitution he says the second meant not to was meant to land, allow individuals to prevent federal tyranny, how could it? But by training our rifles or pistols in the Army, Navy and Air Force, it was intended to ensure that the militia would handle the internal problems of the state, essentially the problems of a large slave population, that is one of the main reasons why that we have the Second Amendment because it really needed to keep slaves.

Here is the irony behind that we actually used the concept of the Second Amendment to rebel against a country that was rightly oppressing us and then at the same time because of the purity of the language of that Second Amendment I now sit before you as an advocate of weapons with the ability to carry a weapon. I don't want to upset you now that you're ready to talk about this. I appreciate you coming.