Greatest Camaro Ever Built? 8500rpm LS7 DSE-Z 3rd Gen

welcome back to bill biology we have a really amazing car and it's this one it's an 82 87. 87. it's a third gem that's all you need to know let's see what's up Dustin hey how you're high five oh what's up upstairs, That was a five pound shock, I don't know what's going on, okay, real quick, what did you bring? I brought our 1987

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as we like to refer to it as dse z because it is owned by kyle tucker who owns a detroit speed dsc z for detroit speed and engineering we have a third generation here it is beautiful it was actually on our lot summer in sema and kyle is killing it now we can dig a little deeper and get a little more. details about what has been done to this car, all the amazing improvements and the products the company makes from it.

We make a full line for this car with front and rear suspension and this is also the test car so we could go out and beat it. on the suspension and see if it performed, if we could break it down and see how it held up, so it's been Road America, it's been the speedway that Las Vegas has a lot of car crossover locations around the country, I think it's been like a dollar 80 on Road America down the front straight, that's fast, yeah, because you just passed it at Good Guys, yeah, we just came from a Good Guys show in Pleasanton, California, and we passed it there for two days, so Let's talk about the outside and then about the real. quick, what color is it, is gm bright blue metallic, it was ppg paint, it was a color for the third gen back in the day, oh so it's a factory color, yeah you know what's so cool about it, this car is drive,

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ything is already chipped. street legal street driven makes some of the best streetcar events this is really cool the fact that you guys went ahead and invented your own emblem yeah we made our version of the

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emblem we put the dse logo on it that's it cool, there isn't.

With a lot of modifications, the nose piece is now completely fiberglass and we extended the nose piece to be a little lower, so the chin gets a little longer, that's right, and we added the divider, which is serious, which is thick that way. We could get some front down force and some additional cooling through the radiator and the hood is a GM plastic hood for a 3rd gen Camaro. Quite a rare part that is becoming quite difficult to find, so it was actually a GM part to make these. the cars are a little bit lighter, it's a big hood, it's a huge hood, it's actually a really good idea, I've n

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thought of this, it's actually about using the vinyl and then cutting it backwards so you still have your sponsors included, but you don't have to. all the windows, they don't cover the windows like my car, on top of the windows, all over the back window, can't see how the windshield we thought was a pretty good contrast, yeah, flat on the paint and let the paint come off, that's cool and then It's got this heat extractor, this track spec hood vent that mimics the original, but it's functional, that's right, and we have the wheels here, although they look like C5 wheels, they're kind of like that, but it's a version of forged lines, it measures 18 by 11. in every way it is running at 315 30 18 bfg rivals expect the four corners the four corners the four big corners it was too little massage to put it in there that is incredible, it really worked well, it is a big tire, oh man, even this detail, that's right, we thought it was a cool addition.

I can't believe it's the same combination of tires, front and rear wheels. Yeah, you'd never know. I would never know. Yes. Three unless you look at it from all angles, well I guess you would know. when you look like that, yeah, those are big tires, yeah, spoilers a little bit, it's a factory spoiler, but we lengthened it to make it a little bit higher, a little bit more down so we go 180, a little bit lower, more downpours with 180 and we give it a It also looks a little cooler yeah it definitely looks more aggressive and like you said this car is street legal street legal it actually drives on the street a little nice this weekend, that's great, so many details, everything is so clean, that's our way of doing things.

We like to keep everything detailed but not flashy and keep it clean and simple, yes, because honestly, if you didn't start this and it was just parked, you wouldn't even have any idea what was done to it. I was surprised when it came on because it looks kind of like a sleeper, not quite, but it's just subtle, yeah, totally subtle. Was this on display maybe two years ago at SEMA? It was on display last year at SEMA and right up my alley the best trams were new construction when I was at the optimus booth at sema the year before nice this is the only thing I think zach would probably wear in these t-shirts so let's get into it and let's see what it is about.

Wow, the lights work, such a cool LED light, this thing is red. Kept it pretty original apart from the roll cage and pedals it has a full cage on the dash it's actually from another camaro the only thing that was replaced on the dash is the top dash pad oh yeah because they crack , Yeah. They are subject to cracking like right in the middle, yeah, the sun base divides them, I mean, it's a big dash, just like the hood, very big, those are cobra seats that have been covered with some material to imitate the Original Camaro seats with Camaro logo.

Yeah that's cool man our seat adjuster is here to be sure this seat rail will bolt into place if you need to adjust the seat just unclip it it has four pins around the rail and you can slide it back and forth to adjust it. Different drivers slider is always the weakest link but it is much safer and it is a product that we make and sell at Detroit Speed ​​so it just locks into place and we can also take out this cobra road racing seat and change it back easily. Just by taking out those four pins, you can put the original top seat back, oh, so you can go down the street very easily.

We have our road seat and then we switch to our road seat, oh that's good, I didn't realize you actually had it. the back seat I don't even know why they call it the back seat that back seat is quite complicated for insurance purposes they put a back seat in these cars to move with the customer they don't call it a sports car everything is as well tucked in as the Halo is tucked in Super tight man you can barely tell there is a cage on this car, yeah on all our builds we like to keep the roll cage whether it's a full cage like this or even just a loop bar with a harness bar.

I still like to always put them near the roof, keep them clean and well maintained, where you have to look to notice that it even has roll bars. Yes, these door panels are great factory style door panels, even with the hand crank style. The dots are great, so the question is when you open it, does it really stay put? Yes, I hope it works well because as I know from this era, oh yes, shotguns were bad to use, yes, the buffers just popped and moved and were pretty. soon people just had sticks that held them up and held them up, we actually kept the release in the factory location behind the label which is cool, honestly you wouldn't even notice these bottom bars on the back, they match great with the interior lines and These are smoked taillights, yes, yes, they are, yes, we smoke them a little bit, we give them that a little more subtle look, we have a little bit of clear protective film just to keep them from getting hit because he He likes to throw rubber, yes, these huge meats.

I think we're still getting rubber out of Sema versus the garages. He sent it pretty hard, there was rubber caked everywhere underneath. It was amazing because it literally just came off the show floor. Once finished, he returned directly to the exhibition floor. Well, let's see. Outside the engine oh this is a cool feature on this car so it has a ls7 it is a massive motorsports black label it has the holley f5 throttle body 105 millimeter throttle body we drive by wire just for a better feel and a little more response from the foot msd intake driven by the holley dominator ecm that keeps everything revving and the injectors firing and telling it what to do.

We have the blackheart hooker from the holley heads, they fit great there, this motor is a stroked ls7 so it works. from 427 to 388 cubic inches and it spins very fast it spins extremely fast it will gain rpm very quickly I think we're shifting it like 8200. it's screaming in the boat yeah that's spinning really loud it sounds amazing when it's at those revs this sounds great you weren't kidding, it's a huge throttle body, you could put a grapefruit in that thing, yeah it's huge, you have to cram all the air into that beast, do you know the specs basically and how much this thing costs? puts out 12 to 1 compression, it was dynoed with a different intake at 700. with this intake it's about 630 somewhere in that ballpark as far as horsepower for this car, which weighs 3300 3400, that's pretty close, it's a dry sump engine with a dry sample. the pump and the oil tank and the oil breather has a CNR radiator to keep it cool that's some serious stuff right there those fans are this is really cool they made houses in our shop when I was building a car I guess you guys

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the tower strut tower yeah race yeah we design and build the strut tower mount we make it three point and two point that's the item that's for sale through Detroit Speed ​​and you guys make these hood hinges also now these hood hinges are ring. brothers, so yeah, very nice hoodie, there you go, it says it right there, I don't even want to get that close to the car, I'm afraid of scratching it, this is the part of our suspension package that we

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for the third generation. they're wheel camber plates just to prop up and move the wheel and the camber they have these little star lines on them yeah so we can do some fine adjustments that's cool so nothing under the car it's all done up here , those are jri adjustable struts, everything Detroit speed.

It's built super clean, it's functional, it runs and looks from the factory, that's how we like them, that's our style, we're using a dual tilt master cylinder for the brakes, tilt clutch master cylinders with the dual brakes and brake cylinders. mattress naturally we can adjust the bias from front to back so I saw it was actually on the dash yeah the brake adjuster adjusters on the dash oh man look at this yeah details we even have your mullet man, we have our mullet man on our spark plate, well, I guess. We need to see where they really excel, it's also the suspension under the car, so let's get on the lift and check, then we absolutely get the car on the lift, now let's talk about all the goodness underneath, but first really.

Fast, this is a car that really drives and takes a beating, but look how clean it is. Fresh from an autograph weekend. We haven't even had a chance to clean it underneath. Well, let's talk about the rear suspension because that's what Detroit Speed ​​is really known for is our area, so the rear suspension here is a four-bar rear that we call quadrulink for a third generation. We adapted the brackets on the rear into a nine inch front rear to fit here. is our top quad bar, it has what we call a swivel, the bar will actually rotate, whereas like a mono ball or a heim joint it would run out of travel, it doesn't run out of travel, it will rotate all the way around so the suspension don't get stuck, oh that's great, what the third generations are done for is the torque arm, but we've removed the torque arm, we feel like you know they're bad at breaking, they don't fully hold up. lots of power and torque and has the bottom facing forward, the quad bar in this same way, it's a swivel link, making it the true shape.

The rear end of the link was a jumper with trefoil supports. We made a support at the top to go through the floor support. coil top over full rear shock in the rear with the jri adjustable dual shocks in the remote canister we also added the track bar to keep the rear stable along with the sway bar this car sits flat on the curves, yes. It stays pretty flat, it really has increased the handling tremendously for a third generation. How low is this carver stock. It is much lower. Yes, we barely made it onto the elevator.

You are having trouble getting the lift arms underneath. Works with corvette bushings that we adapt. to the rear nine inches and our rears are made inour sister company, gear fx, they build the rear end housing and also make the differentials, they will build a differential, polish the edge of the differential for noise level and efficiency. So it's the polished finish on the ring and pinion that makes it quieter and much less drag. They have a dyno in the back, so they'll use that to put it on the dyno, check the slope and also the decibel levels. just to make sure it's not too loud, it's a floating axle in the rear, what gear ratio does it have, we have 355 right now, it has a lot of power, yeah, it doesn't need any more gears, this exhaust is crazy, wow. it's completely hidden there, yes we actually had to modify the gas tank a bit to get to the exhaust point.

You can't get any closer than that. Measures three inches from head to back. Stainless steel. It has stainless steel. it works with chambered silencers, three inch silencers, that's one of the things that gives it a unique sound, you just realize there's no silencer here, yeah, just the chambered mouth definitely has a great sound, it's a new driveshaft from dynatech, aluminum driveshaft, wow, here we have it. The T56 Magnum Bowler has been paired with a roller with improved timings to withstand the changes in torture we put it through on the ropes course. molar performance which is a good job for us in the broadcast, so those are the headers of blackjack, bitch, black heart, black hearts.

You guys run a clutch on this, so it's an eight and a half inch center force clutch dual disc with your flywheel, flywheel, that's fancy, we run a tilt and throw the bearing out and then here you go, so we're talking about here, so a little bit of sidewalk rash. on the k member, but it's good because you're driving the car, you're actually hitting it and you can see, yeah, and so we get to the front, we've got the front sway bar, that thing is huge, we've got Detroit Speed ​​lower control arms. which were designed and built in our workshop we use the original spring pocket to turn it into a weight lifter in a weight lifter we can control the weight in the corners of the car we also control the ride heights in the next car I call it a jack of screw so you can control everything and that's on top, so yeah, we just control it from right here, oh, there we go, I see it, so you run a half inch stroke under, like it's inverted like a good car. style and then as far as the hubs, are they late model Corvette or is it something completely new that you guys designed, it's something we've been working on in the shop, this is all top secret and still in development, so Kyle is a former General Motors. suspension engineer, he started this brand being known for making suspension components to make cars that were never meant to handle very well, that's right and he had a passion for hot rods and he wanted you to know how to improve the suspension on hot rods.

They handle like a more modern car. He just started in his backyard and built the business to what it is now and also his response to building the suspension on the Hoonah truck. Wow, what size brakes are you using? They are bearish 6r clamps at all times. around the car in the front and rear with 14 inch rotors, we also ran six pistons in the rear and you can see how big this tire really is on all four corners. I'm just stumbling upon your carbon fiber setup up here, it's huge. I'm going to go ahead and back up to here.

You can see how big that thing is. Most people probably say right here. No, go all the way back. Keep that breath in your nose. We have the GM type steering box, but it has been converted to. a 10 to 1 ratio to speed up the steering, you need it for crossover car racing, you can have that slow, don't mess up your turn, all in this, I mean, I'll get it, Detroit speed, you're known for the suspension, the build quality and the finish on this car is amazing, phenomenal, feels like a showroom car, I know it's not, we have paint chips, it's driven, banged to keep them in good shape at the same time , it's a beautiful car and thank you very much for bringing it yes sir thank you for having us well it's very difficult wow oh now he knows I have his car oh is that kyle just take that