Assumptions About Us - SimplyPodLogical #49

Hello what's going on? Super Simpson, welcome back to another episode of Simply Pod Logic. A simply nailogical podcast. Hello, today's episode is brought to you by Oats. Sorry, you may have heard they have a new flavor. A collaboration with the only and simply nailogical. It's called mint. chocolate chip cookie we may be biased, but it's probably their best and most delicious flavor. We're not biased, it's objectively the best flavor ever. There you have it menchie, big thanks to the Oats team overnight, everything went very well this weekend, thanks to everyone who saw it, we are already sold out of the limited edition branded blender bottle, yes, but not oats, so oats are still available.

You can still get my custom flavored chocolate chip cookie, so good you can still get them. now on the website we will put it under overnight oats.com just and you will get a different cup now that's all it means ok but the taste is still delicious yeah can't wait to hear what you guys think about it, yes. It was so much fun creating an Oats collaboration. You want to tell people how long it's been in the works or talk about the background. I know you talked about that a little bit in the video, but, yeah.

Sure, and I think people have asked: How did this come about? You're the nail polish girl. What if they've been listening to our podcast for a while? You will remember that towards the beginning we had already started doing it. like sponsorships for overnight oats, but even before our podcast I was already enjoying overnight oats like I was contacted a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, over a year ago , you made that video on how to do it and it was after they arrived contact us because I guess their social media was flooded with comments about you so they just reached out to say hello and asked if you wanted to try the product which led us to read ads on this podcast when we started in the spring or summer because we really liked the product too, right, yeah, and then very quickly the conversation became like, hey, maybe there's an opportunity to do something here and then I realized that you guys don't have a mint chocolate type flavor like what's going on here?

Because I've always told my audience that and I've always loved making my own mint chocolate chip cookie, kind of like an oatmeal mix. I know you guys knew and asked for my recipe and like I said in my simple video. You don't need the recipe now because it's basically this, except it's a lot easier because you just open the package, throw it away, and have it the next morning. You don't have to mix anything except milk, yeah, it's a shame our plan was to hopefully go to their oat factory at some point, we'd still like to do it, but it didn't make sense at the moment, so it was a lot of emails and meetings and flavor samples that they sent us here, so in the middle of last year, they were sending us different flavors and then there were different variants or options or adjustments like more cocoa powder here or less there, so we made some adjustments, but they are the experts at preparing food well, not us, so I didn't have as much feedback to give than I do about a hollow taco prototype, for example, where I only have that knowledge base.

For me, here it was like what's in it is good, it tastes good, but it was really fun to do this and I know that maybe it's a little risky to do a brand collaboration that's outside of what people expect from you, so no one really knows me, like I don't know a breakfast vendor or an influencer, but it worked so well. I'm so happy to see that they love it and they're so excited and I'm excited for them to eat it, eat it, eat those, this could be the, you know they're pioneers, this could be the first oatmeal sponsorship.

I'm the world's first oatmeal influencer again, if you want to check it out, it's overnight oats.com just thank you, thank you oatmeal, thank you, thank you. Okay, this isn't the oatmeal podcast, huh, but it could have been, we could talk for an hour about oatmeal, would you rather do that, yeah, we ask people what their

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are about us, this is a meme, see This kind of thing on Instagram is very similar, it's basically another way of asking a question, but we thought it might be more interesting to do it with the podcast audience and get different types of questions that way, so I did this once in my just analog channel, maybe two years ago, but in that kind of video all my answers are short, kind of humorous and maybe I just like to gloss over something because that's the nature of knowing that kind of YouTube content, so I'm sure I'll have the opportunity to have a more real conversation about it.

Okay, let's jump right into it. I'm afraid Ben prepared all these questions. Well, Kelsey Paul's first, new episode of Simply Pod Logic, brought to you by Simply Times Night Oats, thanks in case we forget. I guess they both don't like to be noticed in public when they run regular errands. Well, Christine doesn't like it. I don't run regular errands, I don't, I don't go out in public, in fact, it's been a long time since you, uh, I just go to the doctor, which sounds really sad, but that's really the only place I've been going. , Yeah. I've been taking you to different allergy tests and things like that, yes, do they recognize you in those offices?

It's that strange that I did it recently. The rheumatologist knew who he was. They're not weird about it. They're like you just are. they said something, they didn't just give you a weird look, no, she said that and then she said it's okay, she likes it, but sometimes when you see someone you think you know you just want to ask them to confirm and it's not because you're afraid. or being rude, you simply say: Am I doing? I know? Yes, that's how she handled it well. Maybe you'll get better care if you tell them what I am.

I don't think she didn't do it. Yes, please fix me. I'll say it when it happens. I don't mind. I don't think you care. I will be the one making the essential trips that need to be made and the only thing I will say is that sometimes I feel a little pressure, like if I notice, like if a cashier notices me and knows who I am, sometimes I feel pressure. Like, oh, I'm supposed to be funny and engaging, when in reality, if I were standing in line trying to buy oat milk, wouldn't I think I needed to entertain the cashier?

Sometimes I feel like there's a bit of pressure to like it, this might be a bit of a moment for them and if you're silent, quiet and bored, they might feel a bit disappointed, yeah I think I'm the same way and that's why I might It was weird when I met you, that explains it, but I think I generally love it when people approach me in the pre-greed era. I'm always happy to take pictures. But generally speaking I think I'm an anxious person so it's not my favorite thing to do to go out and get attention since I definitely don't go out to get attention okay next one from haleywilliams42 I guess you drive expensive luxury cars, just my seven ferraris, that's right, you drive lambos with the doors up, leaves folded, that used to be the thing and we made fun of this like many youtubers, as soon as they started making any amount of money, They went out and bought like a two hundred thousand dollar car, right?

If they just like not driving, maybe if it's a lease, there's a way to try to justify it, but I really don't think buying my Ferrari or buying a car for someone, can you rule that out? Yeah I mean if you buy a car for a stranger and it's not like a family member or someone you know I'm not an accountant anyway it doesn't matter ignore that part uh I mean I don't think we're going to say the exact make and model. Of the car we drive, I would say we don't have a stupid luxury car, but we also don't drive like the cheapest cars available, right, yeah, Ben and I have a car each.

I don't have a fleet of Lambos or Ferraris. or anything that i think people associate with youtubers cars, i don't have a tesla um, but you know we've improved our cars, i no longer have my mazda 3 that was resting next to it, i remember it's falling apart, yeah you got it brilliant. clip of that, uh, what was the video painting my nails in my car? Oh okay, but there was an intro where like you were holding a bag, well I was making fun of youtubers who like to see my new car, so I was standing in front of my car that was rusting in middle of winter and was putting the check engine lights on the hood on the rust in the wheel wells, yeah, so it was no longer safe after a while of driving that car. and it was just stupid, so I bought a newer, nicer car, but remember we also live in Canada where it snows for four months a year, so the idea of ​​having a Lambo, a Ferrari or any of these luxury cars from high end is just not realistic for us and I also don't know if I would be too scared to drive it anywhere and I don't want to have a car that I'm too scared to drive anywhere if you wanted to spend like 200k on a car and you were the guy As a person, maybe I don't know how people buy those cars to get attention or because they want to drive them fast, yeah, what would that car be?

Yes, as I can see, you get the idea. to have my dream car, I guess I really like the audi r8, but I also know that I'm going to use it maybe a few months a year, but also I haven't even driven my own car for months, yeah, because well, it's winter. and we don't even change the snow tires on my car because we just go in Ben's car, if we have somewhere to go, we don't usually travel places so there sorry, it's not very, there won't be a car. but okay, next up from uh mrs w vong uh, I'm guessing one or both of you have quit your day jobs or reduced your hours significantly, uh, so that you can manage and run a successful, ongoing business, work on the podcast, create content, work and have There are a few minutes left in the day to relax, seriously, how do you manage it all?

Do we have a few minutes to relax? We don't relax as much. I don't think I've made this a secret. I took some time off. At the beginning of the pandemic I thought, but not because of the pandemic, no, it was a coincidence and it kind of ruined my plans. Anyway, I haven't been at work for quite a few months. I'll go back to work next time. next month, yes, part time and I think moving forward working part time for the government is the way to make this work. I almost wish they could demote me too, so I wouldn't have the same. level of responsibility like, could you pay me a little less so I have a little less responsibility?

Are you in how you feel? Chris, you've still been working, I've still been working and I always have questions about my Snapchat, are you still working for the government? I think that's because people don't see my office because we're not physically there, so I still work part-time at my same crime statistics job. We have both been. part time for a while, although we have reduced our hours, I guess part time is a strange word to use because we are still permanent employees, but we have reduced our hours, so that is what it looks like in the public sector anyway, but people think I just quit because there's no videos of my nails in the elevator or there's no one like me at my desk like taking weird snaps or ringing the fire alarm I used to Snapchat, but yeah, we're working. from home and that seems to be the future at the moment for any government worker, at least where I am, it seems pretty unlikely that people will return to the office in 2021, with some very few exceptions of very essential things that need to be done in a workplace, maybe yes, and some people love it because maybe they've liked staying home and not having to travel in the winter, like that's been great for some people to not have to take public transportation in a storm of snow, but for other people who have families at home or who manage other things outside of their house, like me, it is very difficult personally.

I'd rather be in my office, which is one of the main reasons I've said before that I really like my job because I like the change of, you know, doing my nail stuff and my silly videos at home and then going to a professional corporate office and do my analytical work. Now I don't have a professional corporate office. I'm just doing it at my desk, yes, full of nail polish, yes, and I don't think you're alone in how difficult that has been. Many people have problems, many people do not want to work at their jobs. As much as it sounds convenient to be able to work from home, I think for many people this is a big challenge because they really associate their space with what they do, so yes, I think our attitude over time has changed as well. changed like we're proud of the fact that we've held down regular jobs and especially for you, I think it's not lost on us that you've been a role model to someone who you know may be a dumb youtuber but whoHe also has a serious attitude. career, so there's a little bit of pressure in that sense, I guess, because it's very difficult to juggle all those things and give them the right amount of attention.

Yes, it's like in a perfect world like taking this year off from the government. It's been really great for me and it's allowed us to catch up on a lot of things that we should have done the same on a personal level too and run this podcast and run a lot of things well and I guess we just didn't know how long the internet stuff would last when this first one happened. kind of perfect way. world, now we would be more focused on Internet stuff and, you know, more focused on government, a serious career later, maybe and going back to that, yeah, I see, I always thought maybe it would be the same pattern as the people you know. go on maternity leave or have multiple children, so they take time off, start their family and then go back to work and that's how I thought maybe they would play my career in the Internet and the work balance in the public sector.

I thought maybe I would significantly reduce my hours, take a little time off, be at the top of my Internet career and then my Internet career would fade away, but it's already been six years of Internet career, five, five or six years. So it hasn't really happened like I thought, which I guess is a good thing because we're grateful, I'm grateful to still be here on the internet and people still want to see me, but it was just unpredictable. I guess it's hard to say and it's a lot of work and I know for a fact and I can admit that it's not sustainable for me to like it for the rest of my life.

I'm saying it for now, I can deal with it, but I'm 32, I don't know how much longer I can keep doing multiple channels, all these promotions, hollow taco, working on my government stuff part time, plus it's a lot, yeah I don't want you to think like that. no problem, I'm fine, yes, yes, as much as we have said that example, you know that being able to do those multiple things is good and you have been a role model in that sense, we don't want to be a role model either. model of how to work until you die or work too much and how it seems like Western culture seems like there's too much emphasis on just working and liking hard work and isn't it cool when you see an older person working and me?

I'm thinking no, you need a balance in your life, life shouldn't be working 80 hours a week, life should be a little bit about vacations too, maybe yeah man, okay, that's a work in progress , uh, next question from sarah mahoney. I'm guessing you'll work for Statistics Canada until you get tired of being on social media, then you'll retire from both, and then you'll be on vacation forever. I guess we just touched on this topic, it's almost the opposite, it's if we could just pay more attention to the Internet stuff now and I think we see more statistics about how to do and the work of the government like it's still satisfying and things we could do when We are 30 or 40 years old.

How old are we? Where do we do? What do you see yourself doing when you're 48, I think I see myself on a beach, okay Ben, but I probably won't let you know. Simple, illogical videos on my desk reacting to things when I'm 48, I mean, who knows. I don't say never either. um, but first I look a little quieter and getting back to the desk, christine, oh geez, and maybe that's not just government work, maybe it's more like a hollow taco brand thing, but a little more behind the scenes , maybe I don't know, maybe. who knows, we don't have to decide, yes, we don't have to decide, yes, and that is very liberating, it is the luxury that we have and what I feel luckiest in life due to the financial success of being on the Internet is that when We make these decisions, we know that they are making them because we can simply decide what we want to do, not out of financial necessity, yes, and not out of disqualification, just because of what we really want, yes, next time. from Chelsea, I assume you guys keep your financial income separate from your government jobs, but you split your YouTube income equally.

I don't know how much we want to get involved in this, you know, but what I do want to say is it's very early. when you started making money online and in a way I helped you. You know, good advice for anyone starting to make money online is to find an accountant or a lawyer to help you figure out how to set up your business and how you want to pay yourself and maybe pay other people who help you with the business. , paying taxes as a business, how to pay taxes, what you can and can't write off, but I think it was very important to us from the beginning, uh, that we set things up in a way where you never had to question uh we really wanted to protect your just naive interest it's your baby it's your thing I never wanted you to think I was in it for the money or something so things were set up in a certain way, to protect you, yes, I am very well compensated for the business.

We make a lot of decisions to pay ourselves an income just based on what our expenses are that year or just what makes sense from a tax perspective as well, but uh, in a lot of ways and maybe this is a good recommendation because you don't want to have to to think that your partner has a financial interest in staying in a relationship exactly like that, yes, and I think that's the important point here and in regards to our other finances, yes, it's the same as when we met, we both have our own accounts bank accounts and our government income goes into our respective bank accounts, yes, but that's like whatever works for you, like I know couples who share a bank account and that makes sense for certain expenses and that's whatever works for you, right , we also have a joint account, but we also have our individual accounts and we are not the type of people who like our bic to sound like I paid for the groceries we have.

I've literally never done that and sometimes we think, how can we never argue about money like it's weird? It's the most common reason why people argue or get divorced, I think so, because we're lucky, we're lucky or because you're not with me because of the money maybe not maybe just a little bit Elizabeth's next I have a feeling that Christine uses an electric toothbrush and Ben uses a regular toothbrush confirm or deny Christine deny Christie that we both use I tried to use an electric toothbrush yes, I tried I couldn't do it, something yes, I don't like it, it's just weird , I'm more, I don't know, I don't like it, but yeah, we have to call Christine, because if you saw her toothbrush like I showed it.

Snapchat one time I can't even remember why and all the comments were like why do you chew your toothbrush because I chew it why why not who taught you to brush your teeth like I'm brushing them just for all those worried , I'm brushing all the areas you're supposed to, but in the middle of brushing I guess I'm chewing on it so the bristles come out to the sides and then I need to change my toothbrush more often, yes, really. hungry i should eat more more okay next one from senna uh i guess ben is worried that christine is working too much do you worry about me? uh yeah, I worry about that uh next question uh just theological says what's up I just assume that Christine secretly wishes she could take a vacation, that's right Christine, have you been dreaming about vacations?

Not now. No, I don't want to go anywhere. I mean, sometimes I fantasize about what it would be like if I actually did nothing for the next week. What would happen? That's because I just have no idea about doing that and I fantasize about the idea of ​​what would happen and then you know, I think this person would be disappointed, this would fail and this would come, it would fall apart, so I'm like, yeah, okay, no. Does it matter, actually yes, we've discussed vacations before, obviously this is a joke, people probably know that, but it's not that you don't want to go on vacation, it's that your mindset is when I get back.

If I haven't done anything I have to do more there will simply be more things I haven't done and my timelines will have suddenly moved forward but you understand if you look at your whole life that way as if there were always things that you could do, but you never take a break, but it's not like we've had the same discussion, we're the ones who argue when I, if I go on vacation, I'm sure it'll be good for a day or three or whatever or a week, but then. I come back and have a week of work that I need to finish in one day, so why would I want to do that?

Or you just give yourself more realistic expectations about how much work you can and should do but when you are your own boss like in the youtube sphere I can't do that anyway but in government work it means you can't do that because I have all these things that you do, you can exactly choose being your own boss, you can exactly choose how much I understand, but I guess we're getting the root here when you go on vacation, you know, from an employer that gives you vacation time and you say that usually I'll take the week off from your employer if it's good. you have to allocate those hours somehow and hope that a workload doesn't come your way during that week and schedules can be delayed or adjusted accordingly, usually, okay, then you're just a bad supervisor, okay, that It is the root of the problem. just next up from just novological uh, i guess christine likes hummus, but she's repulsed by it because of how much she eats ben, what are you talking about?

I'm not on the hummus team, well that's what we've had a lot of conversations about hummus. and my love for hummus, but no one has stopped to ask you, Christine, do you like hummus? Well, if I admit it, then it seems like you know I'm contradicting my own comments. No, you can like hummus and still think I'm kidding too much. I like hummus, but I don't love it as much as Ben. Could we have hummus together? No, it would be very romantic. Okay, next one from Spinstein Colors. I guess you never have silly, stupid fights. They both talk so well and are so down to earth on their podcast that it's hard to imagine them getting into a petty fight and insulting, what insulting, did you ever, you big fool, not close the refrigerator? door, I can never in my life think of a time where I have ever insulted someone out of anger and someone or in a relationship in a relationship, okay, I can't think of it like maybe you screamed their name, but what?

Is that what you mean? I can't imagine insulting someone with bad words just to hurt them. Yeah, I mean, maybe when I was 16 I did it. Sorry, I won't say never, but from what I can remember. I have never resorted to that when we first started dating, like all couples, we have disagreements about the things men tell us. I can't think of a good example, but I guess what I would say is that Christine is a big deal. Solution-minded person, like my inclination from the beginning was to say, oh, like it's normal for us to get angry about this and talk about it out loud and his response was always to immediately, just talk about it in a super rational way. .

I like problem solving and it's really disarming, so I'm not going to sound like a crazy person if you say: How do we solve this? You're right and I think that's the healthiest way to approach disagreements in a relationship way, but it's also not the worst thing that sometimes we like a type of venting, although I think we don't really argue, like if you're right, we don't get involved. in petty fights, but we do have disagreements or annoy each other. Another thing, obviously, and one thing that occurs to me is that I get angry at Ben when he says I'm going to finish editing a simple YouTube video.

I'll show it to you because I need someone to take a look at it before I post it on the Internet. and he'll have comments for me like, you know, it's reasonable why I'm watching it right, that's why you're watching it, yeah, to review it, but I'll have been so sick of editing myself that I'll be in a bad mood. And I would like to react negatively to any comments you have, you take it personally if that's the case and that's why living together and being a couple and working together and all these things add up and that's probably the biggest source of everything that really I do not do.

I don't think it's that because we all worked together at Statcan and we even once co-authored a paper together and we crossed paths at work and I don't think any of us have any like this. There's no conflict there at all, it's weird, we totally get along, but when we're at home doing YouTube stuff and it's me making a video and I make a joke and Ben tells me that joke isn't funny, you should delete it. That's different than working on an article together, there's no real problem or emotional bond or feelings of taking it personally, like just editing an article, yes, but this is very different, I think so, no, that's fair, that's, yeah, that's probably the biggest source of conflict.

In our relationship, well, I don't know, you bought tacos last night and, oh, do you want to come in? You forgot half the order. It's okay, I forgot halfof the order or the place where I was picking up the food, but it continues. like, so Ben comes home with half of our order and I'm like, where's the other half? He says they didn't give it to me. Well, did you check things before you left? I just read and you are. Like no and then I was like Ben, well that was dumb and then I got mad at you for like five seconds, you got mad at me for that, yeah, for not checking, I thought you were just mad at them, well, both of them, but well, no, how?

I knew not? They forgot a ton of food until I got home and opened it and saw that they forgot the food, but you're supposed to check before you leave. I'm not going to open ten containers to make sure. They're taking a quick check anyway, so I was upset and frustrated like anyone would be in that situation, it's pretty unreasonable, but like that, this is a really good example of the little things we'll argue about. I was angry for about five seconds. Well, you should have checked and you say, Well, I didn't know that and then you went back and got the rest of the food, but yeah, that's what we wrote about what a terrible fight, I don't know if we did.

I'll be able to recover from this one without insults in the next round of Aaron B. My guess is that Christine likes to talk during movies and TV shows much to Ben's chagrin. I bother you? uh, I'm really upset about people doing this. I don't think Christine is a criminal in this case, thanks, that's true, you don't really talk during movies, but I talk about them when you don't care, like Grey's Anatomy, oh yeah, that's it, but here's the thing . I'm willing to let you talk about Grey's Anatomy and I'll just tune out and pretend like I'm paying attention to what you're saying, so that's what you're doing.

I will say that maybe there was an example of However, this is like if I'm playing a video game or something, I think you just assume that video games are kind of silly fun, but a lot of video games now are more cinematic experiences, like you have to follow the story you were playing. a game once and that's how the climax is a very emotional moment like it's something serious it's like the culmination of the story christine comes in and says like what is that guy doing? it's stupid why is he using like a bow and arrow like just asking all these really stupid questions and like please leave me you don't have to enjoy you don't have to understand the things that I like and I enjoy you know it was annoying but I was doing it on purpose, ya You know, oh yeah, that's great, it's great when your partner enjoys, uh, bothering you, what else are we going to do in quarantine?

Ben, uh, okay, from Rideau River Threads, I assume Ben wears socks with sandals and Christine has stopped trying to stop him, uh. not wearing sandals just sucks uh uh yeah, you know me. I don't really see the problem with wearing socks and sandals. I mean, I see it as a problem if you go out because then you'll just get your socks wet. Why would they get wet because the water rains and it snows well in winter? Well, in spring I don't see the big problem with socks and sandals and I'm not trying to impress anyone. You think I care if people should just leave.

With that I wear slippers, does that impress you? Yes, Cassie's next one. I guess you guys secretly got married years ago, but you say you don't care about marriage, so you don't wear rings or anything to show you're married. I think it's interesting that people wish this was the case because I've seen this comment elsewhere, like when I said oh we're not married or whatever people, it's probably because you secretly got married, like what? just because? If we wanted to get married, I think we'd be inclined to do it secretly and just uh, but I can't keep anything a secret, you can't, no, it's like with Hollow Doggo or the oatmeal he was constantly giving out. previews, but you know what I mean, if we cared, it's not about showing off a ring, it's not about having a giant display of something festive, and you know, I've been to weddings where it seems like it's more about I like family more than two people getting married, sure I always find it super strange, yeah I would never get married for my family weddings in general, pretty strange to be honest, maybe it's a good opportunity to get together with the people you care about.

I could do that for any reason, but people don't do that for any reason, now they're looking, you can't do that for any reason, don't do that for any reason, yeah, but that's what you can say you can do. I understand it, yes, but I wouldn't like to do that, have a contract and join just for the sake of my family having dinner like it's weird. I really just wanted to do it. I had dinner with you, so we got married, yes, we answered this before another podcast. I'll put an info card on why we're not, we don't care, but I really thought I don't care about legal. state that says married um that doesn't change our lives we also live in Canada there is common law so it's a little different but we're still seen as partners in life and the way you know taxes and healthcare and stuff and the main things that matter from a logistical perspective, for that reason I can appreciate and understand why some people would absolutely get married.

I see that makes sense, it's just not really necessary in our cases and, uh, it's just not necessary for me on an emotional spiritual level. I don't care if we are happy together, yes, ring or no, but without a ring, but without a ring, because I have nails and they are the center of attention. Megan Gabriel's next 14, I guess Ben wanted to get married and have kids sooner. Him dating Christine and her made him realize that you don't actually have to do that to have a good, loving family. I don't think, tell us, Ben, I don't think you've necessarily shown me that I think I'm a more tolerant person. person and that if you had cared about marriage, I would have been fine with getting married, so there is no part of you that has grown up thinking that one day you will have a lovely wife, no, it is more important to me that I would like to have one couple. that I was happy with a partner in life, a partner in crime, you know, but being married to them never mattered to me, but I think I'm more laid back, like you obviously don't care about marriage, so I don't.

I don't care about marriage but if you had cared about marriage I would have proposed to you like seven years ago thanks for your hypothetical proposal what's on the other side of me is a ring everyone made that joke and that would have been funny if I wanted it to go viral youtube video with a lot of views, he proposed that the ring be sponsored by this engagement company, Allison Bean's next, I guess Ben watches a lot more YouTube than Christine, based on his surprising knowledge of so many youtubers, it's true, so I don't do. I want to answer for you, but I think we both watch a lot of YouTube, but what I will say is that I think you watch content about things that interest you, whatever the topic is at the time, and I think I watch more YouTube content on YouTube, already whether it's like podcasts with interviews from youtubers or just like the franco show that might cover stories involving youtubers, I think I'm very inclined to watch content like that, whereas when you're into fitness you just see a lot of fitness youtubers or me.

I found you in your office lately and you have a two-hour unedited police interview of a woman who killed her family. This is what you are seeing, you are exposing, there is this channel, I think it is called JSC Criminal. Psychology, I don't know anything like that and I've seen every episode they've released and they're one or two hour long episodes where a narrator is just talking about a case and the case is presented in a pretty simple way, it's not. completely edited, it's like live and why not live, but pre-recorded interviews of the suspect like from the police station and I really enjoy it, no, I mean, you're not alone.

True crime is very popular, but I do it. Don't watch true crime, presented by someone in a lewd manner with a clickbait title thumbnail that makes it seem like I don't actually care at all. I prefer to look at it from the point of view of criminal psychology, where they just give you the highlights. of what the investigator is doing and why just showing exactly what happened in court without really commenting on how he should have been guilty like I don't want those things is an interesting conversation not sure if people are interested in This we could potentially do like a true crime podcast, but what if we did?

Not only would we be proving my point that I don't like using that topic, click on me to hear about crimes. It's not just that I hear what you're saying for me, it's the victims, it's the victims' family. I always think what they would think when listening to this podcast because some of them are nice. I understand there is a reason. I like to get into the details, but you're right when it's just salacious, like uh, listen to the details of how someone was brutally murdered like what it is or how someone, quote, unquote, got away with it, so there's a lot of TRUE. crime stories about casey anthony and people will talk about how he got away with it and how that happened at his party and I think all of that is just not helpful to the victim or well it was his son but the family around him.

In that case, like you don't want to hear that kind of stuff, I just think it's not good, yeah, yeah, I don't know the idea that people benefit from telling stories of other people's misfortunes and victimization. There is a conversation worth having. about that and some of the more high-profile true crime series or podcasts, I think they've creatively framed the cases in a way that clearly serves as a more interesting narrative for them, even if it's not exactly accurate, right? And I don't want this to be true for a lot of them, like having a murderer leave out a bunch of things to make the guy who was falsely accused seem more sympathetic, but it gets left out, like serious accusations against him, and anyway , I don't want to get into that too. very much no, you're right, you can create the story yourself and leave things out if you're right, so okay, how do we get here?

Oh, Christine watches criminal interviews on YouTube. I think I agree that Ben watches more YouTube than I do in general, but it's because I'm watching content that's not really about YouTubers and trends, it's more just for me, like for example, when quarantine hit, I saw a lot of ideas from exercises at home and that's watching it for me, not for YouTube. research, I guess let's save, I'm sure I used to do a lot more, yeah, I'd say a lot of the work you do at home too isn't work, you can watch a YouTube video at the same time, like you're editing. a video you also can't be watching youtube if I'm working on something like paperwork or answering emails I can just have a podcast while I'm doing it I guess so I have uh I watch things while I'm taking samples yeah yeah or while I edit hollow taco videos that don't have audio so that's where I'll be posting YouTube videos and that's where I've been listening to the crime stories, in fact if you have any good crime tips for Christine please leave them below.

I love them in YouTube format. I guess I'm very used to posting things on YouTube and I'm a bit visual. I like to watch even if it's passively. But I prefer not to. more sensationalist version as if I liked it more objective as if the narrator was barely there, something like that, I understand you, the next one from saboteurao. I guess you don't like many other youtube creators. Oh, just take a sip of your late tea. answering the question I'll let you answer this one I don't know what to say like people who become famous on youtube I think a lot of them don't go into it thinking they're going to be role models and I think it's a little unfair to just tell people that you have to be a good influence, that you have to be a role model, that you don't have to be an advocate for education or any cause that matters, but I think we find it frustrating and maybe even more so. than the average person, uh, when we realize what a privileged position it is to have a platform like this when people are so bad and bad influences or complain about how hard their lives are when they're ripping off their young, impressionable followers. . uh money like yeah there are too many examples of youtubers doing that and even some with a really good reputation who otherwise seem like nice people who give cars to people but then sell their followers like puzzles that are just lottery tickets and make millions of dollars from their young, impressionable fans that way, like it's really disappointing every time we see a story like that and then there are people with personalities that I think it's pretty obvious why we wouldn't get along with them even if we were. .

Just like in real life, like if you were in high school with some of the best youtubers and no one was a youtuber, would you be friends with them? And I think the answer for me is often no, not because I like hate. them or something, it's just because, personality-wise, they havedifferent interests than mine, there are a lot of youtubers who really enjoy the vanity aspects and like to show off all their cars that have to do with wealth and flaunt them. And that's probably the polar opposite of my personality. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate business and making money, obviously, I just think there's a big difference there and I also think some of it is cultural, so where you grow up. and who you are friends with totally changes your perspective on other people, so we grew up in Canada where I don't know anyone famous and yes, there are rich people who went to my high school, but nothing compared to when we go to the and see the people who interact, so when we go to YouTube-related events, there are a lot of different personalities that are all very big, all very, you know, they think that people are interested in them, they want to be the center of attention and that It should not be interpreted as something negative, it is just part of your business. that's what they do literally like the attention is on them and it's monetized you know that's what they do um like while I'm doing that isn't it like that I don't feel totally comfortable doing that all the time like it makes me feel weird well what?

Are you just projecting your insecurities onto these people or isn't it just a personality thing? I find it hard to click with people who enjoy that to that extent, it's not a judgment call, it's like we're in high school. Would we be friends? That's how I look at it and it's like probably not. It's because I'm the loner, maybe I'm the one who doesn't want to be seen by the whole group and I find it difficult to do so. I honestly interact with a lot of other YouTubers sometimes because I'm not doing what they do. I don't have an agent.

They don't put me on television shows. I don't do interviews as you know. promoting things that no, I'm not looking for those opportunities either, um, I'm not going to get botox, uh, otherwise I'm not altering my appearance and I think as a woman, that's a huge thing that can divide women into friends. cliques, that's something you see in high school too, there are pretty popular girls like a cliché clique, but it happens and then the girls say maybe they don't care so much about wearing makeup at school and I'd be into that. ladder group, yeah I'll say this when we've gone to YouTube events in LA or New York or wherever, sometimes I hope I really like someone and they turn out to be like a super down to earth person who's down to earth on earth. earthy and it's easy to have a conversation, so I'm a little less reluctant these days to simply judge someone I haven't actually met, but at the same time there have been plenty of examples of us meeting people at these events. where their first inclination is to talk about their numbers, my social sword looks great and they clearly like how much they love themselves and how they want to be famous and those are the people we immediately know how we would do it.

Not being friends with that person, right, yeah, although it could be a good business opportunity to have been friends with them and crash like you don't collaborate with people and in fact, we had a whole podcast on collaborations if you're interested in listening. More behind the scenes, but I just want to reiterate Ben's other point, which was that sometimes you judge someone because you see a video about them and you think, "Oh my God, how self-absorbed, but I've actually met some of these people." . and they're not always like that, so I really want to point that out too, that this isn't just an assumption I make based on someone's photo.

I want to meet someone and I've met some really cool people who might think. Just from watching a video, you must be one of those self-absorbed people, that's not true in my experience and I've become, you know, friends or friendly, let's say with some people that I thought maybe I wouldn't have, yeah, but. if someone says like that, I don't think that just because someone isn't it in person means it's totally forgivable if they're also projecting that kind of thing online at the same time, right, yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, the next person asks, I guess you secretly think. that YouTube has changed you even though you don't want it to, I think I can sum this up as anyone who has unexpectedly become famous on the Internet is going to change as a result of having millions of eyes on you, commenting on your actions. sometimes defects. maybe you feel insecure about whether it's true or not, that will change your perception of yourself and the way you choose to behave in the future, so at the beginning of my videos maybe I thought that I don't really care to think too much about what was saying, but then I realized there were a lot more people watching and suddenly you feel more pressure on you not to say something stupid or wrong or something that could be misinterpreted or whatever, or a bad joke or say something like It's just not funny, you want to be funny, you want to be well received, so there's all this pressure on you to maintain that and I think that bothers you no matter who you are, yeah, no, it's fair to say and also just.

How long have you been doing this? Six years, yes, 2014. Yes, you've just changed in the last six years as a person and it's very hard to say how much of that is due to something you spend a lot of time on. or not, so yeah, I was 26 when I started, now I'm 32. So youtube or not, you change a lot from 26 to 32. Actually, you know, that's an interesting point, although I don't remember hearing this. an interview about someone's theory on why celebrities are so screwed up and they argued that you can recognize it in some celebrities that mentally they seem to like to stay at the age they became famous.

I've heard that too, yeah, I think it's really interesting. That's why I still act like I'm 26 years old. Well, honestly, sometimes not, I'm 13 years old. I'm not saying I'm famous, I mean you're kind of famous on the internet and as a result I have a little bit of internet fame. I guess, but yeah, sometimes I catch myself saying, Am I acting immature and maybe I'm still acting like I'm 26 even though I'm 30? That I have? That I have? 30 How old am I? He'll be 33 very soon, yes, but I think that explains why you see older celebrities trying to hold on to their youth so desperately, but it also explains why you see very young celebrities who are super screwed up about so many things. of their self-esteem and what made them famous is tied to something that they literally can't hold on to, yeah, and they're trying to grow and evolve and it's fair and you make the most growth in evolution between, well 16 and 22, let's say that if you're famous and everything reinforces you it's like you can make a lot of money and people will love you for that thing you did when you were 19, uh, yeah, I think it's really a disaster. with you to overcome that and it's very easy for an audience that doesn't participate in this world of living their life online to not realize that and, you know, make judgments or comments like I miss the old, just true, that's right, I want say that.

I actually don't get that very often, thanks guys, but I see that comment nature on a lot of other people's platforms and I find it really sad because I mean sometimes I can understand where it's coming from if it seems like that person just became . a bad person maybe in your opinion has become more vain or obsessed with things they otherwise wouldn't have if they didn't have money, there's an argument I can see for that but if not it could just be getting older and it's possible that they're just changing their hobbies naturally like they normally would, yeah, and you should let people grow and just find a new person to fill that spot in your life if you just miss their old YouTube content or just watch their old youtube content just on a loop uh okay from okra bottom jeans to boots and apple bottom jeans they assume you drink uh other drinks besides tea and water incorrect not true not true you assumed bad we drank a margarita last night oh yeah I like that lit up it's like once like a drink came with the tacos well they gave it to you because your order was their apology for ruining it the other one was tasty it was good some tequila uh the next from tanya luz uh I guess you guys have secret social media accounts that you use to surf the Internet in peace.

I use my main accounts to watch. Yeah, you guys just do whatever. I do it in my main account. They're not worried about accidentally liking or following someone, I mean from time to time. If I'm looking for some drama via Twitter or something, I think I accidentally liked someone's response, not what I want to do, but I don't have a personal account. If that's your question, yes, or I like a burner. I know people, I definitely know Internet famous people who do it, yeah, um, and you see this a lot with celebrities, particularly athletes, I think, and the funniest thing and I think the reason it's not worth it depends how you are going to use it.

You're just using it to have some anonymity and participate in a community of people around a hobby and you don't want them to think you're a famous person. I understand that I can understand it, but what you see is that some similar athletes will do it. they create disposable accounts and will like to go on Twitter after a game and argue with people who criticize them for how they played in that game. That tells me that they need to talk to someone about their insecurities, crazy, right?, and you think like that. guys who make hundreds of millions of dollars, have time, have egos so fragile that they need to go on Twitter and yell at them like a drunk loser in a bar who thinks he didn't score enough points and shoots the ball through the hoop. well, the next one from mymex.

I guess you have a whole room full of mail. Otherwise, I don't know where you put all that stuff. We actually have an entire bathroom full of mail. Yes, like a bathtub, a bathtub, no, it's a shower. full shower full of mail and it's around it's also blocking the toilet yeah we should address this so how much story do I want to tell about this? You had a post office box for a long time and we were very friendly to people. who worked there kept the mail for us and everything and didn't care when things were exploding and shining everywhere and they were very nice, yeah, and we appreciate that location closing, this is like a year and a half ago, yeah, more than that, maybe two years, maybe three years, it's even been a while losing track of time, I know, but we had to go to this new PO Box location and I don't think they won't like it that much.

They don't love glitter, yeah, and well, not only that, I didn't realize this for a while, but if I didn't go and get it enough, they sent things to people and that was happening without us knowing about it. a time. In the meantime, I just want to apologize to anyone who has sent just logical mail in the last two years I guess, and if you got a notice that it was coming back, I really apologize, we didn't even realize for a long time that that was the reason and then. Covet Hit and I'm sure you can understand that we didn't want to regularly go to the post office to pick up the mail only to have it not returned, so we've done that too.

I tried to make it harder to even find the PO Box address as if it weren't on the About page. I stopped promoting it and it is not on the main non-logical channel information page. It's been a year since I last posted. a logical video just sent by email that I know you like and I mean maybe we would have made another one but once kovit came I thought it wasn't a good idea to make that video because then people will remind you that the P.O. box exists and They may choose to send an email and I think now is not the best time.

Yeah, so I guess we're just asking. Really we appreciate. I know you enjoyed it a lot over the years. I really loved making those videos even though I was. sitting there for like five hours like sweating opening mail, but it was cool, but I guess you should ask people that, only if you find that address, uh, don't send stuff, you can tweet it, christine, hey, if you're an artist and you want send me a photo, take a photo and send it to me, tweet it or post it on your Instagram and tag me not with a hashtag but with the real like, click on the photo and tag just analog because I look like it. and I love seeing your guys' art.

I just think sending me stuff right now probably isn't the best idea and again, I'm really sorry if you sent me something if you worked on something really hard and it got sent back because Yeah, we feel bad about it, it's our fault. I feel like a but, thank you for caring enough to want to send me letters. The following is from Tony Kellogg. I guess sometimes you wish you didn't become famous. How did Defranco say? This when you were in his group, would you rather be richer, richer or famous, yes, yes, I think we were both rich, rich, I will stay rich, please, because never in my life does everyone want to be rich, I think who would say ?

No to that question, if it were the only question in the only context, you would say yes, yes, of course, but not everyone wants to be famous, that's another question and if you asked me like 10 years ago, would you do it? want to befamous and being like no, a lot of people would ask yes, they would say yes because they assume it comes with riches and opportunities, right, but if you ask the question alone, do you want to be famous? for some reason my answer is Absolutely not, but I don't want to say that without the added context, if that doesn't mean that I'm not grateful for what happened to my life, I don't want you to think that I am as I wish.

This wasn't my life because it would be really unpleasant, right? No? I'm the type of personality that enjoys all the attention, not really, but I enjoy making you happy and what you know you enjoy doing. I enjoy doing. content and I enjoy your positive reactions to content, so part of that is that you are creating content that is not in a vacuum very well, like when people create things, they create them to be consumed by people, yeah, I'm sure you're right, Yes, but I wouldn't want to not become famous as if I were happy. I guess it's also hard to know when people aren't paying attention to your tweets anymore, how that would feel too, you know what I mean, it's hard to even answer the question because now you have a certain level of fame, like Will.

I miss it, yeah, we have no idea. I feel like even if you know, something simple and illogical goes away, let's say I'll still be on Twitter or Snapchat, like sharing my cats or my tea, yeah, and there will be, I hope. Guys, stick around, see you in 10 years on Twitter. Christine will simply be streaming video games for about 100 people. Okay, let's try to take out some more Murrays too. I assume you guys eat healthy all the time, but what are your cheat foods oatmeal do we eat healthy all the time? we're pretty oh you said oatmeal cheat meal is healthy?

Oats are nutritious and delicious, yes, but they taste like cheat food. No, I don't mind cheat meals. I guess that's not how my brain works. I eat healthy food, but I actually eat a lot of food, so I don't think people realize that it's not like I'm eating a little salad for lunch or something and restricting myself. eat a lot of food because, well, I need it for weight lifting and all the exercise that I want to do and it just makes me feel better to have substantial portions of food, but I don't have like uh once in a while.

I'm going to let myself eat a bunch of donuts or something, you know, honestly, after eating healthy for years, I don't even necessarily crave it, like I don't want to wait for McDonald's food, like now it makes me sick. That said, we order takeout weekly from a semi-nice restaurant that may not be the healthiest, but it's not junk food either, it's like a good meal, but maybe all the vegetables were cooked in a bunch. lots of butter or maybe there's fries on the side or something, yeah, and this maybe a big help. I think it's a healthy way to look at it because it's not like we're depriving ourselves and then once a week we stop.

We binge on McDonald's or something, but it's about, you know, we're not depriving ourselves at all, but we tend to eat pretty clean and then once in a while we'll eat something and we don't worry too much about whether it's the right thing to do. healthier. Like last night, I had churros and key lime pie for dessert, yes, a couple of dessert plates. I had two desserts last night, it was so good, yes, that's good. Okay, from Sarah, I guess most of the time it's Ben trying. To convince Christine to try new things, like food and drink shows, and Christine usually doesn't want to, but eventually we'll try.

On the subject of food. This is definitely true. I'm much more adventurous when it comes to wanting to try. different types and food cultures let's say yes, I'm boring, I have a boring palette, you've gotten better, um, I'm not sure if it applies to things like shows and things we're good at, we just put whatever on Netflix and stuff stuff, we have similar taste in entertainment, I'd say yeah, okay, thanks, the next one I guess Christine calls Ben dad, please don't block me, no, I don't think you ever called. Yo daddy we're going to have to block that here so she calls you daddy you call me you call me banana man although I call you ban okay that's it uh from morton hansen I guess it looks like Christine snores and Ben is the person who doesn't move when he sleeps and he wakes up the same as when he fell asleep do he snore men so christine doesn't snore uh-huh I'm smart it's not okay but christine uh has uh what's the term night terrors do you have what kristen you have nightmares you know this sometimes christine wakes up in the middle of the night like I'm not screaming it's more like a moan I'm screaming prohibition are you you normally don't talk that would be more interesting if you talked yes sometimes you just wake up they get up at 3 am and Christians say no and they say sometimes I just Like, I need to put a hand like you and you'll stop and sometimes you'll wake up and we'll look at each other briefly and just come back now I'll just be like what comes back like you interrupted me do you remember what you're dreaming about when that happens?

No, oh, that's good, just being terrified in the middle of the night, okay, that's healthy, uh, okay for Morgan Lee. Uh, I guess at first it was genuine, but nowadays whenever you yell for Ben, he's actually like eight feet away outside the frame waiting for his cue, let's call it Ben spill the t, I won't lie, probably this has happened several times. but well, I think the most common thing is that you yell at me and if I don't hear you, you will text me and say: can you come down? can you go down the stairs?

But sometimes I will. I legitimately hear you screaming from the basement and I'll know, oh okay, like I know, I know you're filming down there, I hear you, I know you came down, I helped you set up the camera when you first started filming, like he knows. what's going on, but like when I was filming the oatmeal video in the kitchen, you were right next to it and on the couch in the living room, so you knew you were literally eight feet out of frame and then you slid in inside, uh, hey, it's. everett uh i guess ben is a little threatened by matt's brain your brother your brother um you're smarter than a mat matt is smarter than me um my mom once told me she doesn't take offense ben but i think matt is the one smarter kid what Did you say I don't know?

I mean, I think it's true, you're all smart. I wonder if people noticed. When I was speaking in front of him, maybe I was deferring to him more because I think he is much more educated on the subject. Theme, yes, but maybe it's like a big brother, little brother thing, that I just assume that he knows more and knows more about life than I do, he's a very smart guy, I don't think I necessarily feel threatened by that . but yes, you can accept that someone has more knowledge than you on a particular topic and not feel threatened, yeah, sure, I don't like to admit that people are smarter than me, you know, because I don't usually meet smarter people that I, oh, silence. you need to clarify that you're being a little sarcastic about the pajama ladies' crazy crafts.

I assume you will be launching a nail polish collection soon. to launch the nail polish collection, yes, how much do you want, how many are we going to launch many nail polish collections, one is coming very soon, although yes, potentially, put your hand down, it comes in your dreams, there are a few of us, how much, what can we say? There are a few weeks left. How long is the month of February? I think it's a short month. What's the set? Well, I don't remember well, but very soon. Yes, we are working on it. Thank you all for your patience, but I am very happy. excited for the next one, okay and the last one, I guess Ben likes the podcast more than Christine because he can have an intelligent discussion and Christine prepares prefers to make videos.

Am I not having an intelligent discussion? I think you are very intelligent. conversational person well, I think it's okay, what do you like best? Do you like to just shoot videos this or do you like the balance of the two? I mean, I think they're both very different, obviously, I think I prefer the podcast workload because we film it once, just once, we film this podcast once, we only say all this stuff once and then we edit it, we barely do it. we edit once, like watch it, add some videos or you know, overlay something if necessary or color correct basically. that's all I do, but for a simple video it takes a lot longer to film, it takes a lot longer to prepare.

I need to have some kind of outline of what I'm going to do, maybe there are some props, there's a waiting period for whatever reason. I'm trying something out and then I have to edit it and make it fun, so editing is a lot of looking at yourself and looking at yourself over and over again, whereas in the podcast you can look at it one way, yeah, and in the podcast it's a conversation, so it's not just me talking to the camera, it's what the conversation included, but it's just literally just me, so yeah, it bothers me a little bit looking at myself and now I understand why Ben is upset with me. in life sometimes, but no, I guess the truth is you, I mean, it's been almost a year since you came out and admitted that you were struggling to like the videos on the main channel, that was about a year ago, yeah , and I'm sorry I don't want to speak for you, but you're clearly in a healthier place mentally, I think when it comes down to it, yeah, I think reducing the amount of simple videos that I post was not only the only option to exist, huh, but It has helped me and I can do this instead, so we are still on the Internet with the same frequency and we bring you content, but it is different and I appreciate that you like it, you want to listen and you are excited. come back for every taco on Tuesdays every time every time no, but you can, the beauty of this is that you can listen when no, you don't have, it has to be okay, apologies to samantha ravendoll, uh, how do you pronounce it, are you sure that No? sure, but you know, we were, congratulations, she just launched, she's a Canadian beauty guru who just launched, her own makeup line.

Look, Ben watches YouTube so much. That's how she knows. I always feel a little pride when I see another. Canadian YouTuber having success in that space congratulations Sam yes congratulations okay thanks for tuning in see you next Taco Tuesday yes we will yes we will I hope that clears up all the

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