$1,000 vs $3,700 Wheels and Tires | HiLow

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. - Does more expensive really mean more is better? - Let's find out. - Go. We bought two identical Nissan 350Zs. - Almost identical, as identical as we could find. - We've been modifying them to be fun, daily drivers that you can take to the track. - One Z gets expensive parts and the other Z gets cheap parts. - Then we'll test them to see which components are really worth spending your hard-earned money on. - For my wheels, I chose a set of Advan RG3.

They are very strong, they are very light. They cost $667 per wheel, which is nothing to sneeze at. And as for tires, I chose these Bridgestone Potenza RE71R. It costs $265 per tire. I have them on sale. -And on the cheaper side, I chose XXR 527 wheels. They cost 127 dollars each. And for the tires, I chose the Federal 595 RS-RR. They only cost $136 per tire. How about we open up our wheels and see what they look like? - Those are sick, friend. We went with an 18 by 10 square setup on my Z. This is lightweight, man. - Let's see what mine are like.

I will be honest. I like mine better than yours. - Do you like them more? - Yes, I like the more spoken style. -So why does mine cost six times more than Nolan's? Well, alloy wheels can be manufactured using different methods that determine their weight and strength. My Advans are made up of flow. The process gives the wheels more strength without adding more material, making them stronger and lighter. Each of them weighs about 20 pounds. - So mine are low pressure cast wheels. And they weigh about 24 pounds each. -So Nolan's suspension will have to work a little harder to control his heavier wheel than mine. - And my wheel has what is called a multi lug pattern, so this wheel can fit on many different cars, not as cool as the single lug pattern. - No, it's like saying your wheels are cheap. - Yes, no, I will try to make this as pleasant as possible.

I'll try to keep them, sorry. I will try to keep them as pretty as possible. - This is the first test you have to do with the tire, see how well they rebound. - Oh yeah. Rubber compounds are serious business. - Unlike rubber chickens, which are technically a joke business. - Tire companies are very protective of what's in their secret sauce. Additionally, government tire quality grading standards are not strictly enforced. And the way manufacturers rate them all is also unverifiable. It's just strange. - Yes, although the Federal 595 RS-RR tires on Nolan's car have a treadwear rating of 200, that doesn't mean they will perform the same as the ones on my Potenza RE71R with treadwear of 200. 200.

It's time to stop being polite and start being sincere. Can cheap tires match the performance of expensive tires? - I hope so. - I hope so, I hope so too. I'd rather spend $500 than $1,200. - Ridiculous. - Okay, you can spend all the money in the world on wheels and tires, but if they don't fit right, they'll be a very expensive paperweight that will sit in your room forever. Ask me how I know. Unlike most projects, the hard work of installing wheels and tires on your car comes before you even open your toolbox. Research is the name of the game here, boys and girls. - There are many numbers on a tire, but there are only three that you need to know to make sure they fit your car.

The width, profile or aspect ratio and diameter. The width is self explanatory. It is the width of the tire. So these are 265. Generally, the wider a tire is, the more grip it will have. But it will also have more rolling resistance. So it could eat up some gas mileage. - The second number is a measurement of the side wall but is not in millimeters. This is what is called aspect ratio. 45 means the side wall is 45% of the width measurement. So the width is 245 millimeters. This 45 means the sidewall is 45% of 245. - The lower the aspect ratio of the tire, the less tendency the tire will have to move back and forth on the wheel, the less roll it will have, but it will be much harder . of a walk You are practically riding on rubber bands. - And then the last number, that 18, is just the diameter of the hole in the tire, so you know what size wheel to put on it.

And those are the things that are important to know whether you can put them under your car or not. Those are the tires. That's pretty easy. - With wheels, there are a lot of things to consider and a lot of scary numbers involved. But do not worry. Zach and Nolan will take him down. I tried to break it. The more you move the center, the more you move the center. - There are actually five numbers you need to know with wheels. You need to know its diameter, so you need to know if it matches the tire you're putting it on. - The next measurement is the width.

And wider wheels allow you to use wider tires. But you can also use thinner tires. And if we really wanted to go full stance, we could put super skinny tires on our wide wheels and kill ourselves when driving on winding roads. - You need to know the bolt pattern and center hole of the hub to know whether or not it will slide on your car's hub. So all of that is important, but it's all pretty simple. - The last measurement of the wheel is the offset, and this is scary, but it is not, it is not. - To understand displacement, let's first find zero displacement.

Zero offset is the dead center line of the wheel. And then when we talk about positive offset, that means we're moving the mounting face of the wheel, this thing, we're moving it positively outward. So towards the face of the wheel it is positive. That's all. And then that lets you know how far your wheel is going to stick out or how far it's going to get sucked in and ultimately what it's going to look like because an 18 by 10 could fit a million different ways with a million different offsets. But with the Internet, with our forums, we know what people drive, we know what looks good, and therefore we have some goals to achieve. - You'll definitely want to check the torque specifications for your nuts.

You don't want to drive down the street and have your wheels come off. I've been in a car where it happened, not mine. It was, one, terrifying and two, very embarrassing. Yes. We don't have to move the fenders. - We have to roll up the fenders because our wheels are very wide and the ride is relatively aggressive, so we are going to remove the lining from the fenders. If you got your calculations a little wrong or if you're just going to completely ship your setup, you can buy yourself a few extra millimeters of wiggle room by turning your fenders.

Typically this involves bending the inner edge of the fender up without actually changing the exterior appearance or shape of the panel. You can do it with a specially designed fender roller like this one, or you can go old school with some hammers. Nobody does it like that anymore. This is something really artisanal, artisanal material. - (beep) I just broke something. - And it always helps to add a little heat to try to prevent the paint from cracking. - I think we have a lot of space. I think pulling and twisting the fender worked. I don't think we rubbed shoulders at all. - Then Nolan's car crashed. - God of influence. -And honestly, I'm a little jealous that his car is so beat up. - I have to go down more, friend.

I really love it, man. - Let's see if this little dog rubs some. - More more more. -Do you think he will rub you? - No. He connects it. - Connect, fo' sho. - Road noise with new tires. - We brushed against each other a little. Yes, there is definitely a hum in the tire noise. - They feel good, like in that type of corner before, you could feel a little push in the front. - It's like on rails, man. God, James' car is going to feel amazing. - Damn, we're not even sure if it's second anymore. - No, we're just stuck to the road. - You have a lot of confidence with these tires.

All the confidence we took away with the $300 coil-over shocks you get back with these tires. - But their tires at a fraction of the price are definitely 80% as good, if not better. - Dude, it's great. No rubbing, nothing. - We may have raised the height a little, but that's only because we want to look silly. - He feels very grounded, builds a lot of trust, which could be a bad thing for guys like Zach and me. I'm very happy with that. It feels very, very, very good. - What a combination of smells. I guess what we learned today is that an attractive guy is not a choice, it's a lifestyle. - That's a good investment, man.

I'd be happy with that for $1300. That's legit. - Zach, are you ready? - I'm ready. - In the last episode, we organized a slalom course to test the handling of our new coilovers with original tires. This time, we ran the same course to see the difference our thick, grippy new boys made. - So I think for us to really see the limit of these tires, we need to be on a track and do fast laps, warming up the tires. I think the feds and the Bridgestones will feel very similar about what we're doing. - When you watch both races side by side, you can clearly see that the lower car's Federal RS-RR maintains traction noticeably better than the standard car.

In the car, the results were even more evident, especially around the last cone. You can see the rear of this car here with the stock tires, but with the Bridgestone RE71Rs, that rear remained solidly planted. Next, we perform what is called a lateral G test. Basically, you drive in a big circle as fast as you can until the tires lose grip. If you've ever been on a merry-go-round, this is something like it but much more fun. And if you think about it, there are a lot more horses in this one. I'm talking about hours. Did you break it, Lewis?

I did not see it. In this episode, we're testing the tires, but both cars have different suspension settings that affect the way they drive. - The low car was jumping, bouncing all over the place, it looked super awkward, it looked uncomfortable. - The front part was so-so. - And hello car, I could have done it all day. It was very comfortable. It was eating up every imperfection as we walked and felt very neutral. In the end we pushed it a little, but there was hardly any oversteer. And I'm super happy with how this feels. - And finally, we perform a deceleration test from 60 to zero.

You might think this would be testing the brakes, but tire traction actually plays the biggest role in stopping distance. It turns out that deceleration tests from 60 to zero are really difficult. - I got like 55. - Did you find it harder than you thought? - Yes, yes, because I reached 65 and said, okay, I can quit and it will slow down. And then you left him and he was still 65, and I was like. - But we think we were able to get enough good runs out of each car to draw some pretty decent conclusions. It also makes it more expensive. - Do you mean more is better? - Results are available. - And they may surprise you. - They probably won't.

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That's K-E-E-P-S dot com slash H-I-L-O-W. Save 50% on your first order and don't lose your damn hair. Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this episode of HiLow. For the slalom test, the tires made a big difference, Nolan for both cars compared to the originals. The low car ran at 6.57 and the high car ran at 6.52, which is a 7.6% improvement over stock. - A difference of half a second in a 400-foot run is. - Enormous. - That's very big, yes. - Massive. And I also want to point out that the tall car is now officially faster than the low car. - We're one and one now, we're tied. - In the radial test, both cars were constantly rolling at about 64 kilometers per hour.

The low vehicle reached around 60 kilometers per hour before they broke free. Hello, the car was going 41. - Two miles per hour, not much. - Nothing bad. - But also. - Nothing at all. - If nothing. - The low suspension of the car probably made it more difficult to maintain that. You guys were bouncing like my wife (beep). Finally, deceleration tests from 60 to zero. Regardless of all the errors anddifficulties of our driver, we were able to get a fairly consistent set of data, but when this car was new, it stopped at 120 feet. Hello, the car was a little better than the lower car, but both cars are considerably better than the original ones.

There is much more contact. - I think maybe the compound has more to do with it than the width. -As far as wheels go, I don't think Nolan or I are good enough drivers to notice the difference in wheel performance. Basically, buy something nice enough that it won't break. Stay safe. And then it all comes down to how hard you want to flex. In my case, with the Advans, I have a lot of influence. It comes out of my nose. - Personally, I like my wheels better. Sorry, I'm not going to say the Advans look bad because they don't, they look amazing.

But I like the XXRs better. I think they are excellent value for money. - I wouldn't buy the XXRs. I would buy something a little cheaper than the Advan. - You have to choose one of the two. - One of the? If I had to choose one of the two, I would choose the Advan because I have a reputation to uphold and I can't ride on multi-lug pattern wheels. So, Nolan, does more expensive mean more is better? Technically, yes. -Something like. - Definitely. - More or less, yes. - Definitely, 100%. In every test, they perform better than their tires. - I know, but it's not.

It wasn't like in the suspension tests, where it is immediately evident. - Ask me which ones I would buy. - What tires would you buy, James? - I would buy from the feds. - Well. - I want a car that I can release the rear end of whenever I want. - I'm with you on the Federals just because, not because you want a more flexible car but because you have to be a better driver to feel any difference. Also, I just want to address some comments from the last video that say we were sponsored by KW or will be sponsored for the best parts of each episode.

It's not true, we all buy. - All those. - Part you see in this entire series. We pay for. - Thanks for watching HiLow. Next week, I'm putting a huge brake kit on his and Nolan's car. - Yes, we're going to put some upgraded brake pads, upgraded rotors, and some steel braided brake lines on the lower car and see how those upgrades work out. - I love you. - Be save. What, that's not my slogan. Be good. - I love you. - Until next time. - How are we going to put it on a t-shirt? You can't remember it. - I don't know.