WELCOME TO THE AA EPISODE #244 WIM WILLAERT

the first step on the road to recovery is a little new You have a problem Welcome to a trained bathroom every agreement with a particular organization is based on pure coincidence Welcome to AA for a well-deserved vacation we are back for the first time happy and Prosperous year new, especially for our viewers and listeners and of course, most importantly, good health and listening to this podcast a lot. I don't know what order they choose, but our guest today is an actor, director, author and musician. Can be seen in films as former drummer Marina and the Prime Minister of France, he became known for his role alongside Jollade Moreau in Con La Mer Maud, a film that received two Césars at the Amy International Film Festival in 2012.

It won the best actor category for his performance in Peter Monsaar's Offline on television, he appeared in the best series as the beavergem of the uncle who actually raises the undercover police officers Aspe Witte and so on as an accordionist who played in the Earth Society Plan with which the band is not organized. Wim opbrouck, co-founder of the dolfijntjes, also recently published his first book on clouds for dreamers on the ground floor, about water in an elusive form. A scientific and philosophical book, but also a novel, like the man himself, the book cannot simply be pigeonholed. , in any case, we are very happy that you are our guest in this new season and the first year, the following year, the first of 2023, very

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Wim Willaert Hello, yes, and it is an honor for me to be able to put it here with you .

I've never seen anyone who was so happy to come here to get divorced. He says it was actually almost touching. Yes, it was nice to see. Yes, but I've seen a lot of things happen and I've never encountered that. It's strange, you become known. And suddenly it's like everyone is on each other's side when we meet and that's funny because there are only a few people who are interested in friends. Perk waited a bit until I saw Alex Agnew. and finally the bottle of Thing arrived. That's why he was so happy, great. Wow, that's uh, that's a compliment because I remember I actually told you before we started recording, but we're good at reproducing things so we can do that. for a while, but then the first time I really consciously experienced you was that you were worth a curator of the Ostend Film Festival and I remember seeing it in a movie now and with one with a big beard and especially that voice you announced that and I really thought in the voice of Wadden Wadden What Bassie below and also what is the figure Yes, maybe I still need a singer and then in a moment the Manon plush would buy it immediately, there is certainly some kind of nylon Cohen, you stay away from the man, I immediately think that with that voice, something like that French song gasboer så Bare sexy talk while there is a saxophone like that, the saxophone takes the race again man, isn't he going to have an instrument and not? in the fanfare but I'm not in it, it doesn't stop so that way was really too ridiculous eh that was the reason I stopped was that really was that eh Was that the clincher Girl number 14 I was a little older, fun matures and then has to go there with travel expenses but no decorations, but that was nothing and that's why I curled up with the fan, in fact, I can ask you questions about that now because I've never done that, marching on a bronze . band, there is something very nice about the fact that they all play it together on walks or how should I do what should I imagine that they are in that was the appeal of the fanfare, I will just say, playing together as a musician, yes, that's real, I think , yes, and the people who also sing together in the race, finally only three songs, that's completely different from everyone who is sitting like this, certainly, certainly, it's three voices, so. it gets really bad, I'm at the piano, eh, at music school, my Beuningen and eh, but I'm proud of it eh, but he's always playing alone with a solo instrument, that's what you're doing then a kick more than suddenly you put a coach behind you on the sexy trumpet with the saxophone because if you soon play a background in something like an orchestra or away from a sambale Yes, that usually doesn't go much further than a few bass notes They usually have a Solomon like that if you're into one of those things in the blazer then it's every two months the tube is four and I was Bas I was Bas from pom pom pom pom pom pom Pomp is If so, but I said he was all in. in being together, that's now that I'm doing well, a very nice musician to play, so a group is playing, and the singers, eh, were an electric guitar, seriously an extension of his massacre but all the beautiful women are looking and saying is thinking like that Oh that one there, the blonde one too and the pink one there and then you have the drummer who also ah the more he closes his muscles to his sweat and that.

White is so this is not something to watch that doesn't say anything about all the women are watching while he plays and the bass player has to think about it alone or alone while playing, that's true because we can do it together because once I went to music school or something like that in the context of that time. Then there was one day of something I know a lot about and I had to play alone, being a musician and I only did that once in my life and it was actually nipstra. musician because it was allowed, right?

It was the day that Ella was allowed to play instruments and I know that's how I thought at the time, this is not for me Ops that I have and always have there I try to make street music, I'm still going to give money because I have a suite. I think it's the same as a bit of comedians and/or something like that. Only on stage. You should have this house right on Meir, so if there's a Volkshuis, that's great, but that's how it happens when you arrive at 11 and lug around all kinds of instruments. You had put your first note.

You have to play, that's what you have to do. Yes, they had been. I think it's a bit of a habit, like everything, right? If you do it often then I think you feel it less than before but you always have to take that first step like that, so I also have the same thing with things, for example, uh, bands like choosing or something that is dressed like that and they have a suit like that and that means that, according to Rena, they are fantastic, but they also did it in a small cafe at the beginning and they must have had that moment in the dressing room when he said men Yes, it's all or nothing here it's not like that because that's how we look like that that we have to be there yes I have that moment after all that you dare to take that step, how the chain is so strong that the weakest link should only have one face, I don't know, all the morale in that dressing room is completely broken, so bed, that's it, you're a cat, you're a cat and now you only stay in that role because that was the one who had the most difficulty with it, it couldn't be any other way, right?

The Pieter Chris team cat that was sitting like that, really a cat, that's what it seems to me, that seems to me to be the case. yes, so I have to eliminate characteristics of self-awareness is that something is good for the actor or something bad for an actor self-awareness very important very important yes, how can I say it you wouldn't be aware if they are not, of course? the text must also be harsh if I have to kill someone but expersonally it could kill another person it can also kill anyone who commits that murder sometimes it's incredible that you say about that man or that woman and that Avent stabbed but 50 so I don't you do.

I don't go there either but then uh I had to be aware of myself, I can kill, I can handle all the feelings that are in me, ready, and if you didn't say that consciously and if they just role play, you say, oh, but it must be tiring if my face is turned towards the camera that way, it will be beautiful, yes, in other words, Silk in polite terms and that's how I've already killed people for the windmill guy or uh, very bad. It's a very ugly thing to do if you can really get into a character that you say is not at all who I really am in my daily life.

I'll put it this way, it's fun to do. It's a bit shocking when I feel like this. I'm very right salsa Put it, for example, when people in their suitcase in Rubikar I see her like that eh, such a fantastic woman so fantastic that's just what I had to do But there and without my knowledge things come Well, I let go a little my feelings. Wow, I've got Dick behind the recording. That reduction. I'm sorry, apologies. Expert, be open and suppose that you, for example, now I am going to honor Hugeix, because you also have quite a few things. own that you really play someone, it's not that one at all, Gijs, but I always imagine that you said that actor who was like that with every version, so you have to play that scene and then you have to say the name hey eh ze ye Okay, because if you come, you're going to have to take a big leap on your hood now.

What situation do you see then, by the way, for me it is a beech and the brain is generally not baked. of me then a role but once filming a horror where that really had to go to the primitive man to the monkey and to myself and there I am two flowers of three days yes what was that eh what is the name of the film now eh lazy lazy sinancieu It's called It's still a short horror film about the guy who obsesses so through the hole there is a floor and then the people underneath and in the end I see that they are actually no longer out there, that was around I didn't have spark plugs, those are the roles that you can do more, but I say yes, fantastic, yes, beautiful colors too, that's almost a painting, then it says very clean, a very good director, actually a Hast, so nothing comes out of the films. nothing from Moroccan Liège that makes man more horrible the most beautiful horror films Why did I make this film or that is another film no ah no that is good eh it works really translated film In short I have what I call that I have to find and He said I can't like daddy with me like probably 94 yes eh it has to come with two things if the sex is good everything is fine never say So you shouldn't try we're not going actually Why is it a 65 year old?

The old man suddenly ends up with a guy from PLAYMOBIL and his hospital arrives and your rope has fallen off, then he says That's because I always want real sex more, but that's not fun with sex if you're always with my father and more and more and uh He knows you can't Yeah and that's a theme from that movie that was just a woman on the street in Naru and she thought she should take that with you or you knew she was a friend's great-grandmother and but To that woman I didn't know her at all, that was also very funny.

That one was 94 and he didn't have many teeth left or anything and then they ate a nice pink beer but carrots and the typical family food and then he put it all in the blender and So, uh, that mixture and those sandwiches, a huge, strong fat. Oh, that figure is wonderful when you follow it. uh I've just been on uh on uh screen freeze or what do you mean frame freeze I've been here. for half an hour or something, that's all fun eyes eh laughing life this and then you see a terrible wind there Yeah yeah look that's just another person eh Yeah that's where I can still drill if I've done it offline I said and We had a vision and eh and a cinema already in buy the closet in Ghent, but that's where Pieter mossaar anemone Valken and me and Mourads me and that too Yes, the Moroccan who went a little further because there was a match against Vienna with the film then It was a little bit blacker but yeah, we watch that movie, we come, we're not going to bring, we never meet anything in my son And suddenly he says in the way or whatever, but he says Are you? walking with Rudy Ah yes yes but I'm not walking with Rudy but I have it uh yes because of that movie that way but I didn't know it so what Why do you do it?

Is it something you think about or is it what you are doing? only in a character and you have the feeling that, according to me, he also moves like that, there is no choice or is it really something that arises from that, it is an idea about that person that you have when you have to consciously play everything, so you lose stage. and I usually read that based on my role I always read that and they are very to be able to place the film in which I am all, eh, and then there is a lot of unconsciousness for the rest, so in reality I already have that Of course, let me tell you for once how easy that is.

I'm wearing clothes that aren't yours, so give me another shoe, I thought I'd walk differently, right? sweetly you have to do things that otherwise you would never do that way and what my mother is very difficult to realize is that it is simple, it is very difficult, I don't have many classmates who understand that. Sportpaleis says There says my Voorburg yes, that is, of course, that is true, but yes, it is also a fact that you, I believe that it is still something magical to act. I can always look at someone and think, especially what you've seen. what all good actors can do and what you can do, but what really good actors can do is that they can also let 10 emotions pass through your face without him saying anything, which I also say seems extremely punishing to me, I think it's because you see. so much in that role that everything you do that you also feel or is that something conscious that you think I think now he is doing this or now you think that I of course you always leave me on and then I can if the young people ask the camera like this You have to stand a little to the left then I can stand a little to the left what do I do I do the voilà and That always differs a little but it's always in the way, eh, I think you're busy now, for example,Eurol at uncle's house, eh, what's behind after, eh, fantastic Rijks, but that's a That's a thin line, eh, all the time, eh, both Jelle De executioner character and if something moves like you and I know that you um that there wasn't really an interview either eh I think that with the three of you they think for humor or something like that and then it was actually about her character And then she said Riek or yeah, I don't know one of the two said that yes third, so 1/3 brother, that was a brilliant role, we could only do it for a very good actor who could just sit on that fine point, because when you say that, you say that, it's a caricature, right?

And that's something, that's something, uh, did you feel that immediately you said Yes, I'm not going to talk about that, although you can do that kind of role with your left hand, maybe? not bad? The guy, it was actually written about another actor and then I had it, I saw the nature so I saw us cutting with that and instead of going for the comedy I said, I'm going to do it very seriously. here because I already knew it uh we had already seen them in a but the mask is Jelle and I and finally it fits Jelle and I and the facts are playing cartoons, it seems as if mine and Bever were not him and somewhere before This these could not have been three of those caricatures, but somewhere I am a caricature somewhere but very silent.

Yes, but is that something you feel or is it something you should see or say on camera or do you just know after all these years who I am? loose like it was covered then I felt that anyway and then I receive the gifts, the gifts are that there is a postal thing that comes true that uh if I do it at the moment when I try to turn the card with the figure and that was not in the text but I'm there with the guy of my dreams, so to speak. And suddenly I don't know what we could do, I write and then you see later and that's not in the text and that's just Wow. fell and that's my Kick and that's the gift they say on the box it's a gift because you can't write that's so natural you flow from it everything is right now I'm busy writing a second hand book and what I feel is good What I have here and boxes they give you I think it's not pre- I was going to write the CD and the gas about the mayor who does politics back here, so in the dirty way eh and um the real and eh dirty way Yes to That he was a mayor of De Panne and he had that against politics and then he just has one of those where his opponents had a hotel cafe restaurant eh, he has his brother there on Wednesday no more drink no more liver and that man who has his confidence sometimes beautiful that is political politics and another was and that's how I found out and my wife here She is in the military camps she is not a Para either and I am writing it but I still have to look for what I am looking for that suddenly she has the Para eh through colonel friends who has a gradier and who Para has been so clever directly that the Minister of National Revenue had to write and hard so he was able to unlock it, but then I think I will never find it and suddenly what I discover is that it HE.

I'm fine here, but it's nice and like that. Tuur also has music in the corner. Yeah, it doesn't sound like Kimber, but you're still wondering. that is sometimes in films where sometimes it is a kind of artificial and the interruptions and pauses are not close to the camera that is possible yes yes that is concentration yes what is concentration does not start before your show 10 is awake and then I think it's broken with a rabbit's foot I don't think it's that person I think it's the person I was I was in the post that said there but €5000 men aubame Yes that first sentence comes out and then we'll see Well, right, things like that happened once.

Well said, I know Jerry Seinfeld in that movie comedian who just says All I need to do is take the microphone off the stand and you can see it so completely that he walks towards Nadia after a tripod. him with that microphone and grabs it at once and leaves and then he knows that yes, he's gone, right? And that's kind of what that is. You are you every because I am aware of that every night that I have to play. So that's what happens when I get on that stage. I think so, Allez. We'll see now that I think this can go wrong on every level, right?

Just one unforeseen event has to happen and that whole night can take a turn. completely different twist, so yes, but on the other hand, that is, your gifts are thrown away and if Smeets thanks you. That's true, but you're writing a second book because in a moment you'll be talking about the first. one about a bolleke but but the second one I'm going to hear that it's a police novel or something like that, that type of police is correct because it's actually uh when you read it I think it's my first book you'll understand it better If you have the meat and if you ever get questioned about something like that, the police had to under the police questions were each other, okay, so it's Bram's manual for hanging him.

Yes, but it has to have characters and wait, it is clear that it is not a manual, you must not think when you read that book from the outside that you are the best police inspector because then it should just start, so yes, but you can see that too in your in your book about the clouds because it's uh. We haven't talked about it yet, but it's a very good book, a really nice one to read, but I also have a nice one, um, one can write me a message and that. It was very funny because it was actually a copy I started reading a Dries that didn't have any messages and I was halfway through and yesterday I got from my manager, oh yeah, that was sent for you and I open it and the phrase that you wrote on it : I hope you recognize us, hey, in this book, about Bolleke as Bolk or something, right, you and I must honestly admit that that's the only thing I thought the whole time while I was reading it, that it was a recognition party, but on all kinds of levels, right? that Saul is the main character who is at school and how he is busy with everything that doesn't happen in the classroom unless it's a lesson that winter class is actually very recognizable And what he normally did that's how it should be done In the end this is normal here, yes if it's not interesting or how it should be there How much of the main character are you actually when you read that?

It seems to me as if it were autobiographical in certain areas, yes, but then it's paid so I still had that woman, it's autobiographical because, for example, my father, my mother, but my father and my mother, they were education and education, eh, and at the beginning they also wrote to me with my real names, but my first name and my parents' last name because that's very nice with Paul something André and my mother Andrea Oh Meander That's good That's romantic to eat the black You can always tell where that came from I was starting to talk about that and because that's a little scientific philosophical uh book is uh I was a lot having to know too much, it must be biographical Eliminate I almost abused myself as a character of my parents character that abused in order to explain the philosophy and in the time when I learned other names and I was still tired of being fascinated by my strict father's name and that was also because I like to see my father here and when reading the book I can think of man for man, that was yes, but also he was a beautiful man, it's actually not true because that's what I think at the beginning of the book, that you would actually be like that at the EMAs and that's the nickname these people give each other when you listen to them, but at the end you also get an explanation about aimee, why is that person and who is that person and I also have to say that the longer I have that book, how many things that I also emailed I felt like he had sand between his toes because he thinks he is playing and that should be Yeah, I'm that kind of person too so no, I'm not supposed to be neat because I'm a combination of the two.

In certain areas I think I am all chaos and dreams and in others I am like this I have to have Order because if not all this is no longer correct I also have it like this So there is So there are goods that's what I thought nice actually because he is above all that he is also going to start on the path that can also be understood much better, I understand that that is also a way to put that in order, especially the things that have not happened in his life that he had control over. , so that's actually very beautiful, maybe with people who are listening who don't know the book yet or something like that.

Eh, it's not easy to describe it, is it? Because overtranslated it is actually a bit autobiographical of your life. which I've also seen in a quote, if you've only seen that then you think it's almost kind of a skin analysis of modern education whereas that's not even um. There's also something scientific about it or something about it. moment when you tell Samsung how long you had the idea to write a book and it finally turned into what was your first idea, which is just a fantastic man or something. I sat there for a long time. I want to write something because your story can be measured with a bar and for me it is, so to speak, and Islam or you can bring chaos with magaos and it is everything for me so if she quickly means my neck or then De Crazy things come out there, you have to do things for example, if I were, for example, eh, I put water and a lamp together, then I get a lava lamp, you know, that's something that I eh and eh. , I was doing it now and with that corner of the cloud that really has to be friends, but yeah, I had an idea, I live to talk about it.

That was something that really touched my heart, um, that day, and then I did it. He asked the question, What a luxury of an editor, none of his pants were covered in clouds and I had spoken Yes, interview for the clouds and those editors had seen that and they are here this afternoon and that One then normally the format would be large but all the photos of clouds, but I immediately felt something that I wanted to tell you that there shouldn't be any photos of clouds, rather the nering. Actually, it's true, so I had filled a cloud and my life was covered in clouds, huh, it's there. chaos that theory has not been discovered eh I also write that eh that scientist who moved his computer eh his computer stumbled and let it run again and that Martin for a small distance 0.01 eh an error another calculation that the results were completely different and Well, uh, God, yeah, that must be a complete man, but you have to think for yourself because you can say it was No, but I'm 100% right, sitting there, what really surprised me was how much you can hang in the clouds. which at first glance has nothing to do with clouds, but you often come out of them, right?

You also have a very nice story of different characters living in different climate zones and actually influencing each other. with the Flying effect, that's how I was once, flapping my wings in the breeze and going somewhere else and you have a hurricane on the other side of the world. Yeah, it's crazy how everything influences it together, I thought that too. It was a very nice article about how everyone and you have also given him a personality that he can handle everything. He had difficulty with something that is typical, the place where they live, what you think, the rainforest and the sound of rain on the roof.

I'm getting tired, but he actually listens to that all day, doesn't he, the Moroccan boy who finds the sand annoying, all that stuff, that's a really nice thing you added extra to, I think, and that's actually necessary. prepare for it, which is always free, just one figure and so on, but I thought if you had four people then you would do it for yourself, Leelang, on how it works. then there is a lot to understand and then idiot an Eskimo blows and emé explodes, but his leaf blowers the Moroccan blows to remove the sand from his feet and the one from Tromp is here between her drying upwards and that's why you know so much where that closet Straight end for toddlers makes it easier to stay put than the weather.

If so, then yes, but you have a huge interest because you feel it now. Books that are apart from the fact that you have a very creative capacity. mind, because it's also a little bit of a plea for you not to do it, not to settle and forget a little bit who you really are, but certainly who did those tests that they did on children where they ended up with a ridiculously high cast. number What was at 90% genius '98 Yes, but the further you go, that healing takes place, right? Because conformity takes its place, one can almost assume that in adults, only two percent of adults finish?

What are the groups and schools like? How does formism arise? Because if you think critically, you learn in school to give the teacher's response and the best of those outside. The shapes are also the same. Yeah, that actually has nothing to do with it, but I thought that's in my book too. In fact, I think it's a shame that I discovered so late where the Pythagorean theorem that comes from the triangle Three Squares comes from. actually you can see it a little bit like that because that surface is the same I've never been I haven't been here with that I don't translate it either while that's the beginning of that formula Alé yes those are yes yes but whatever I do that it's hard to go back uh find find again in the book and I liked that I also liked Feels because I think a lot of people will find something in it that in itself was that figure that um uh our lawn chairs with the weather balloon something like that Fantastic, so I thought they were two things because each of those stories is there.

That's right, are you sitting directly on thatbecause they are sitting and there is no distance anywhere. Forgetting childhood and now finally adulthood. And when you know it. That, that's like that, that's also minimal but that's bullshit, that's nonsense That's not true that's been loved since you were born What doesn't suit you You meant I think you've always taken childcare seriously as a full person, that is World War II. Force Feeding throws it in the trash and most of all, thank you, that kid we see and that transport he has, erm, mva, Fra evidence, just throws the plate away.

That moment will never be forgotten. animal, right? Actually I think it's a kind of racism towards women, even women are still a little less than man, honestly that should be the case, but don't say racism towards me and I think AH. person actually like something you have to do, I think he thinks very highly of himself how intelligent That will be eh little one, yes, that's well said, I don't know, I think they mainly tell you a lot of things that you then take with you, But I do know that like I said because you are pure in that book, I say I hope you recognize it.

Yes, I recognized a lot in him and you also recognize many things that seem very important to you. at that time, but that they were taught by the teacher around you should not be seen as a full-fledged activity, about the clouds is also something, no matter how many times I have been told that, that will sound familiar to you, no. I doubt you always miss having your head in the clouds, as long as you think so. Yes, but that's how I am now, isn't it? I've earned it, eh, no. Yes, that is a certain moment. when you have chosen to continue persevering in it and that is indeed yes, read, it is also in your book that at a certain moment the cell makes a decision of No, that's it, I never feel like it and. that is also a third thing, there is almost no choice, sometimes I feel like I think this didn't work for me, to do something else or choose, as you see for yourself, that maturity to let go of that imagination or that dreaming that is that is something that always makes you sad to see when that happens to people who had a very bad time when they were young and you think What happened if and no if if I only say that I say it then Also in that book for adults that there is There is still a 2% who might engage in creative time by chance and there are all sorts of things in between, from teachers to Yes, everywhere there are people like that who retain that creativity and who actually write that in my book, but actually almost all scientists which I maintain are in the book and they have also preserved the soul of a child's child for things like that for sale of course yes that is also good that you have a book um that is not a spoiler but it ends with a song Alé partly because it still has a kind of end of appendix but and that song I I don't know if you have that movie.

Elvis saw the new basic Norman that ends with that, so he wasn't good with that because I wasn't good with that ending either, the Only Lands Wants When It song. Die Yeah, that's the story of that movie and I saw the plane fly and then the stars turned like that and I was devastated and I read there and I thought Oh yes, of course, because that's such a beautiful idea too, isn't it my? my girlfriend made the long player, but if I was working on it, of course, it is also finished from time to time music, then me and the conspirators are found music, music that the city likes to listen to, but I say that that It's your movie, which is just a movie and now That song is effectively finished with her, this Ling.

He is also not that reflection that he is so tired. That's a story you heard. Elvis actually dubs that actor who plays that and he actually describes his life with that. But your life is also related to my life, that's true, if it's just, I'm not going to talk because that's also something that I felt in the end, only that there is a bird, so I have a photo of it next to a chair, that's the swift, but here and in the city of Antwerp, they are everywhere, okay, when you hear that peak shape so high in the air, that's since when and those countries don't actually connect, but they do, if that's so .

That was good. the coast We only had one John who for the bird species and who had I don't know how many people sometimes people who took 20 km with a car sharing those children here heavy you found yourself on the ground a little it no longer flies and she puts it in a box, ladies, and Jonnes say yes, huh. Maybe she can heal and then to the ground in the air she just disappeared again, so that bird evolved so that she can no longer fly on the ground and can take off. Yes, so it doesn't land, it's already sleeping, it's flying Yes, it's in the air, it stays, eh, it stays, the Swedes and so on, Eh, dolphins sleep like that, it could be sleeping, awake, It's just sleeping, I wake up, like that, and eh, I think it's a fantastic example that could be you here, but above all I thought it was very nice and when in the container he read that song in that text then I said Oh yes, I also understand why he ends a book there, not completely but it does end partly because of that, so it is very exciting Yes, voilà and then a few more realistic ones that are also added because it is always sometimes a shame that they say that feet on the ground can sometimes It would be nice to say, okay, you have to keep your feet on the ground, it also sounds like something to think about to strive, but then I think so, but then you have to take off from the ground from time to time because otherwise it was very good hahaha, that's here, you have to take off from time to time, a beautiful expression is still a beautiful expression Ah, my Bim Willaert.

Thanks for coming, man, it was great. I'm glad I finally met you in person and we. Actually I have to, but we're not just going to look for the radio, then I have to go to the coast alone for someday a good fishing job for you. Yes, but you are invited. But that would have been it, so we would be very happy to accept. uh, that whole invitation because I also know that I know quite a few people from West Flanders and that's one thing they can do is receive people and spend some time How to eat with all the fun in any case Wim Willaert Thank you for coming with the book eh, overwhelmed with our good friends Borger or at Lambrechts, it is in all stores, etc., you can also order it in all the places where you can order it.

Hey, try hard. Suddenly I read it in one sitting and it didn't cost me anything. effort at all Although the theme is not always simple but it is still great It is a romantic work It is a philosophical work and it is a scientific work and you cannot do what is usually said about romances, so at least about which one Wim wants, let's leave Wim Thank you for coming. It was fantastic. Now we hope to see a lot of series and movies on Ridiculous and when you publish a new book because you are writing, a second will come back and we will talk about it.

Anyway, guest or always come back if you have something new, so Voilà, that's it for us, uh, for this week, I'm Alex, that's Dries' turn. We are

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