‘No other team plays as BADLY as Man United’ | The Gary Neville Podcast with special guest Carra!

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Jamie, keeper of equality of thought after a truly remarkable football match between Manchester United and Liverpool, remarkable guys because, for many reasons, your expression Blank tells Jamie that, oh, he's FID. yeah ok you got to the point as always Gary listen I don't need to ask a question talk about that football match I mean the Manch unit United I guess the style of play they play It's crazy, it's crazy, I mean some of the things you see out there you wouldn't see at the level of a school kid, um, their structure sometimes goes on the defensive, you think well, they're in shape, now they're well and then they can become as if they were all a sudden void in the gap the midfield players press alone without the rest of the

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mates going with them, you have players in front of the ball when throwing, so the ball is thrown behind, towards the back four, all the things that just If you like to see them as the easiest things to do in football, Manchester United are doing very poorly and Liverpool are very easy to play against.

He made 15 or 16 shots in that first half and you can't really coach that kind of performance. We only rely on individual moments Look at the goalkeepers making saves The defenders making blocks and that's what we saw today at Manchester United I don't think there's a lack of effort There's no lack of desire in the

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Their current performance levels just don't make sense and then from Liverpool's perspective, absolutely the same as the FA Cup game, a professional waste, uh, and I might regret it, yeah, I agree, uh, I mean, when you look at the league table, the Liverpool are still in a very good position, but I'm telling you.

There is one thing I am sick of about H and that is that some of my friends and Liverpool fans go to these games and talk about the results that I hear all the time in WhatsApp groups or from someone who I think we will win 3-1 or 4-1. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of hearing it, it's never like that, no, I know, but never underestimate how hard it is to knock the ear. I don't care how bad Manchester and Manchester United were for probably 70 80 The percentage of that game is still 2-2 and you know what, at times when they were the best and coming to Anford.

I remember that when you were going for the treble, the game ended 2-2 at Anfield. We were a very poor Liverpool. team, but we still scored in the last minute, the boys got 22, obviously they continued doing what they do and that's what these two football clubs can always do, no matter how much you know the

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s on the rise and we saw the difference in quality. on the pitch we've just seen it, I'm sure the statistics will back it up too, but you've never had the game where you feel like you have it and I think the only thing when you talk about something like that is the difference certainly between Liverpool and Manchester City.

It's how clinical Manchester City is and I think that in many of those counterattacks they play better passing and, as the teams are different, I understand that Liverpool is more, you know, W to finish pressing, you know a little bit. It makes me angry if you want, Manchester City are a little more composed, but I think the only player Liverpool have missed here today they urgently need him because Liverpool scored a lot of goals but they also wasted the most chances in the league . I think they have hit the woodwork more than any

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team in the league, so when you think about the shots they have achieved, you would say okay, Salah scores the goals, but the others are a bit scruffy, they score goals, but are they clinical enough? and I just think about some of the new situations today and I think if Doo J is on the pitch for Liverpool today, there's a big chance Liverpool will take three points.

I wonder what they were both thinking deep down given their partisanship. Which we don't need to hide here, whether in Halim Gary you were thinking: "My God, this could have been 456 and United could still take a hit" or whether there was a part of you thinking: you know what, given what happened, Could we get away with it? This and Jamie there's obviously a flip side to that. We thought, "Oh my God, we could pay for this or, actually, the boys are fine, they're going to continue, yeah, I mean, part-time, it would be wrong of me to sit here now and say that, you know, I thought Manchester United would come out and do that in the second half.

I thought Liverpool would come out and Jurgen Klopp would have been mad at him at half-time but I told you at half-time I don't know what our manager would be like at a time like that. that we were one to zero it should have killed the game it should have been two or three, it would have killed us at half time, we would have gone one and up and he killed us in a big game like that towards the end of the season and I said: Ed , the word threatened, you know, J Club will have threatened their Liverpool team, not physically threatened, but yes, you dare to come in at the end of this game having If you gave them the chance, they shouldn't be around you and that's what I remember those types of team conversations, he will be furious.

Jurgen Klopp will be absolutely furious that Manchester United W went to bed in that first half, so the only thing I thought was Halime I thought Liverpool's chance to put United to bed was in the first half. I always thought before the game I said it on the field, the first 30 40 minutes were where I think you have to kill the game here if you're not going to win easily here, but if you're going to win here, go and score two, go and score three, don't go into one, zero, because I agree with Jamie, we never, ever talked about that.

Traffic this old has the same aura and presence for Liverpool as it does for Manchester United when they go onto the pitch, but we should do it because you know if the game is never dead you can never think you are safe here and sometimes we are in the field when we go. and scored two in the first half on the field, I thought well, okay, even if they scored one, it was damaging to think that you have scored two, two goals in the back of your goal on the field in the first half or at Old Trafford, but you are opposing.

Um, the fans are getting quiet at this level of play, you who used to be the worst team in the world, the restlessness in a big game of the opponent's fans in this far corner celebrating while the acquisition of 72,000 is devastating for us as players here, so Liverpool should have done it. I went and scored that second goal, so when they got to half-time and it was only one to nil, I thought: "I'm grateful because Manchester United were so bad, so bad. I mean, look at the first 10 minutes, maybe not, but defensively I'm not talking about defense." Like defense of defensemen, I'm talking about the structure of the team and what they do, it's terrible, it's terrible, so I was relieved more than anything that there was still some kind of half chance, so Jamy, what can Joggen Klopp do?

Given everything Gary said in that circumstance where Liverpool essentially played well in 95% of facets of the game as a layman, all I can think of to say is about his striker score, I mean, you know what else is it? Yes, listen when you talk about Nunes, who is Liverpool's centre-forward. He's not going to change from who he is. He is what he is. He's going to miss opportunities. He's going to be dangerous all the time. He looks dangerous today, but that's a real clinical edge. of the real highest level that he doesn't have, I don't think he'll ever get the Mo Salah role, that's Mo Salah's role in the team and you really think there's a chance, I think just before half-time, Mo Salah comes back to publish.

The volley is a nice hiding place for more than you don't think it's going to end up in the back of the net or it has to be and listen I I I the attacking play that I cost Liverpool today they haven't done enough and it was almost that feeling of that because Manchester United are so poor there will always be another chance of it happening again, we will have a counterattack again in three or four minutes and it felt like that in the first half, it didn't feel like that. One of those away games where you feel like we've all been in great away games where you think if you get a chance you should take it because you're not going to get that feeling too many.

I think about Liverpool. The team is we'll have another one, it'll show up again and you know those opportunities kept coming. You think about Salah that he also failed. He hit it over the crossbar with his right foot. And listen, we don't know yet. Is it going to cost Liverpool because you know you see Manchester City and Arsenal in great form, but Liverpool haven't had to perform

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here, that almost makes it worse, it frustrates you more as a Liverpool fan and probably J Does Klo get more frustrated? that it was so easy that they should have won this third game, maybe 4-1, and allowed a Manchester United game and the kind of history of this game to get this crowd up and just take the game.

Away from them, the two obviously important events of the game given that we anticipated Liverpool's goals were Man United's goals and maybe Garett will come to you with Manu's goal, which was class, wasn't it? But I start with you, Jamie, for unfortunate reasons, with Fernández's goal. because you and everyone who watches top level football have been raving about Paul Jel Quansa, who has had a bad time, and listen, they had bad times, all of you with the professional footballers, how are you going to deal with that? Well, listen, it has to do it. Overcome I was Trent Alexander Arnold here having a tough time when I was young in a game uh I think I came up against Marcus Rashford and listen, it's part of growing up certainly as a Defender and I've been there too, made a lot of mistakes and jel . quander did a lot more because that is The Unforgiven position and that is why we always talk about young goalkeepers or young centre-backs because when you make a mistake in that position it most often ends up in the back of your goal, but even though it was very careless because I wasn't quite sure if I had seen Fernandez, we're actually watching the re

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I think he actually sees it, but when you pass him on the wrong foot you have to give it your all. You have to be more focused because it looks like a lazy pass, but it's because it's on his left foot and you know that you're usually never strong on your weaker foot when you make that pass with your side foot, but even though he's made a mistake. It's a mistake, but I think it's more about the ending than the mistake. I mean, that's what you talk about, I mean Bruno Fernandez, we talk about him a lot, but that was absolutely out of this world, right?

The finish is absolutely world class, so you will make a lot of mistakes in the future, many of them around the halfway line, but that will rarely happen. I think you have to assume the chin, but like I said, it just

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a role. The fact of what we said in the FA Cup game, what we said here, the only way United were going to get back into the game was if Liverpool were sloppy and it was a sloppy pass, yes, as you said, no. everyone would have scored, then Brun Bruno. Fernandez did it absolutely brilliantly and, in fact, Kobby Mayu did it, who I suppose we all saw, didn't we when he played against Everton? and we thought Co, this is a good little running midfielder putting it in and God bless him, but my goodness.

Sh, it's just that he's got a little bit more than that, oh, absolutely, and I'm a little worried about him, actually just before this game because I thought there were signs after the international break where he was under so much scrutiny, in the good sense. Because everyone was thinking, Oh, England have found another midfielder, I thought against Brenford and against Chelsea there were signs that maybe he just you know it's natural when you're a young player, you just sink a little bit, you feel a little bit. maybe". Feeling a bit about the whole England thing, you're going to go to a tournament and the expectation of how people have talked about how we talk about it, but today to produce that moment again you have to be very

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. “To produce a moment like that is something unique, but in a game like this, you know, against Liverpool when you were a kid, there aren't many who do that, honestly, there aren't many who do that and he's a fantastic talent. and he's playing in a team that lacks any kind of organization in the midfield, he, you know him, and Casemiro and Bruno Fernández, I mean the three really good players, obviously individually, but you just look at them and think where is the cohesion? in terms of how they play it's mental, it's crazy chaotic, I mean you can't use any other words but that, but he's got a great temperament, he takes the ball, he can do most things pretty well, very well and, yeah , it's exciting for Manchester United. when you talk about being chaotic in midfield and you talk about it being three players, that obviously comes down to instructions, team setup, do you think that's ever going to change under this manager?

I don't get it Cara, I don't get it It's because they prefer the back four to be quite narrow and tight, it performs like a normal back four. I'm not the only part of the team that I see performing, even the three forwards, the two and two return with their type of full-backstraditionally. The only three in the team that actually do anything that you would say is different from what would be normal are the Midfield three and the rest of them are playing what you would classify as a normal structural 451 433 defensive shape, but these three In midfield I keep mentioning the throw-in, it's very simple if I take a throw-in here and go in that direction to play defensive midfield.

He should be in front of me, so I can't get him between the four. Place Manchester United's midfielders on this side of the ball, so you can throw it directly into space, at the striker's feet. Honestly, I don't. "I don't know how to highlight that because Man Mark, right? I mean, they go with the plays of the opponent's midfield, but when we talk about coaches, I think it's really interesting, we always talk about him, obviously." It hasn't gone very well for United this season, but we always talk about the OB manager. He needs results, of course, but that's the same for all coaches.

In fact, I think Eric tenh needs performances to give faith in the future because I don't think Manchester United fans. When you talk to them, they're actually back, Eric Tenh, and I think you can accept the outcome of this season in terms of they've had injury problems, you can talk about different things about the owner and you can explain some kind of reason. Maybe it didn't go as well as people thought, but I think sometimes when you look at your team, you have to feel like you can look at something and see where it needs to go, and even if you're losing a game and that's what It would worry me as a Manchester United fan.

I don't see where this is going in terms of what the end results will be. I feel like we're going to see a lot more, that's what it is. But I don't think that can be compared to Liverpool City and Arsenal. You know, for the next few years you will play like this and I think you will be close to winning a Premier League title. No, I mean when Jim Rackliff came in and we almost said, right? It's like an audition until the end of the season and what you need is to build a style, a system, a pattern, and we don't see a pattern now, what I would say is that he is Jamie.

Absolutely true, I think the majority of Manchester United fans, including myself, are backing Eric Tenh and want him to succeed, and there are different opinions on this week's performances, so Brenford will never be able to accept that as a point. low in terms of everything. You're questioning the desire, you're questioning the work ethic, you're questioning the parts of the game that you think about, have they released? kind of performance I think Jamie Rapp said it that's the kind of performance that will get your coach fired. Actually, I don't think in the Chelsea or Liverpool game we're seeing that kind of performance, the same as Bren, Brenford is, by far. the worst performance this week in terms of energy and spirit of performance.

Chelsea lose in the last minute. It's embarrassing, it's bad to lose two goals later, but you can actually lose a football match that way. Today, the same bad habits, the same bad ones. Structure the same defensive errors, the same gaps in midfield, all there, but there is still a level of effort and desire. What I would say is that it's disconcerting some of the things you see. There are some parts of that team that you wonder what. is happening on the training aspect during the week and what is the instruction because i can't believe casemiro or bruno or kobby manu are doing this on their own they should be told to do it but then they should be told to do it . do that and and it's and to see it is I say it's strange it's very, very strange to see that no other team in the league plays as

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without possession as Manchester United and that's why they concede how many they conceded how many shots they have conceded today in the end I lost, I mean we were at 50 at halftime, so let's say it's over 20, that's how it will be.

I'm sure we lost count because the game was so good in the second half but that has to stop it has to stop it has to stop quickly the FA Cup but it's easy to stop I I I I really think it's not me just trying to Eric Tag Lo I do I've never been a coach uh you know we both have Obviously, you had a little opportunity to coach with England, Valencia, in different places, but the basic principles of being right are difficult to play against a rival. I don't think it's that hard to train, we've all really been in training camp.

We keep the team compact, tight defense, four, where is our starting position? Are we high? Are we deep? But we are together. or year in club football and the movement and the rotations in the midfield, it's a difficult thing to overcome and something you would probably expect from a team that was actually moving up the division, obviously, they know a little bit about the depth, the quality. Wise wise, we say okay, we're going to be hard to beat, we're going to make it difficult for You know, because today everyone goes out on the pitch and is delighted, it was a brilliant game, you know, stopping Liverpool from knocking them off the top of the league, but when you still look at the bigger picture of how the game started and how it ended, There's still a lot, isn't it enough to leave you scratching your head?

The only thing I would say is that nine of the players who started today would probably start in Eric's best 11 tenh hard, so this idea that they were decimated with injuries in something like one, well, two positions of left back and left centre, obviously, you know, Varan Lindelof Martinez would come in for uh camboa and then Luke Sha or Massia would come in at left back, probably, so you're talking about something like two. positions where they have real injury problems, but actually the bench is as strong as Anthony Mount amrabat Dio probably will be, everyone on the bench today, so the front six is ​​probably like you're saying mom wasn't playing, but in general Manchester United. had most of the players they would want available in the forward parts of the field, you know, Maguire and D would definitely probably be in the team.

I would say that you're talking about Martinez and Shaw, so it's not like you can point to the fact that the team is annihilated and then you think, well, then I can understand why the St has been any player that has taken the field, we have seen the same mistakes and the same type of ways and it's difficult to defend, it's really "It's difficult to defend, it's such a strange week of football that we've seen from Manchester United. If you look at that week of football and try to analyze that in your coaching badges or on your license or as an expert or as an amateur, you can.

I didn't even put it together, it's weird, it's such a weird team to watch, and I don't know what else to say other than that, you know what I mean, it's fun at times, entertaining, but very crazy, so that's the week of the United, Liverpool's week has been Well, there are two wins and a draw at first glance Cara, that's good, isn't it, that's good and you know in the end it could have been worse here, yes, yes, it could have been , but it's interesting how important that point will be because I know that puts them still at the top of the league with Arsenal, obviously they have goal difference.

I mean, I think if Arsenal or Manchester City play as well as Liverpool did, they will win and that's because all teams are different. In fact, I think Manchester City. They are the best team. I think defensively we know Arsenal are the best at the moment and I think Liverpool probably have more goals. You know, they can make more plays. From the bench, maybe they will try to win a game, but we know that Liverpool are more chaotic. Two others, I would say Manchester City definitely have more control, as do Arsenal, and that disappointed Liverpool a little bit today.

The fact that they are a little more chaotic simply allowed Manchester United to get back into the game and Liverpool to go down. uh, two points, but I mean, listen, there's a very long way to go. uh, I think Arsenal will lose points in a different way. I think Arsenal can have games where they don't score against you, you know, maybe away from home. They are trying to chase that goal, whereas I believe Liverpool will always score goals, and Manchester City and Manchester City, I believe Liverpool will win the league and I have always believed this.

I think they need both of them to play with each other. In the Champions League semi-final I think they both need to go through because I know psychologically and physically what it's like to play against an English team in those types of games. We played a lot against Chelsea in those semi-final games, it demands a lot from you and When you are also looking for a league title, I think that could still help Liverpool, but although there is disappointment here tonight, I think that in a day or two Liverpool He will continue to look at that League team and say that Liverpool are still leaders of the league. along with Arsenal they are still in a great position if it wasn't for this perfect Manchester City phenomenon they sometimes have at this stage of the season.

Liverpool have experienced it more than anyone. If it's a normal season where all kinds of points, if you like the Front Runners, then great, that would be great for us, but you have that thing about City where you think they could go perfect and that all the points, all the points . Lost by teams like Liverpool or Arsenal by not having that three-point cushion. Arsenal didn't just get that goal in that trossard. Counterattack in a kind of stage, uh, last week, whenever it was things like that, I always think if you're going to win. a title and you are going to move a mountain from a team like City, you have to do something, you know, if Liverpool score late here and you say it with five minutes left on your way to a title, you need to win one of these, You know, I mean, it could be a different time, it could have been a couple of weeks since that game came from Liverpool, so I'm not saying that today they are out of the title race, but just when Arsenal didn't. did.

You got that goal at City and Liverpool didn't get that goal late after having equalized here. It's not because of City's perfection or City's way of being, you just have the feeling that you could be looking back at the end of the season and thinking well because of the high level that this is where you could lose, but in any case another season, any other time, seven points in a week is a great return and a point at Old Trafford is a great turnaround normally for any team, but we are No, we are not talking about normal times, we are talking about Pep Guardiola and Manchester City and that's the problem here, so to cover up the other two before finishing, yesterday I was in Brighton watching Arsenal and it occurred to me that there was so little danger in that game and the men were one of Arsenal's toughest in Brighton and they want it in the way that I look in from the outside and bow to what you say I would normally talk about Manchester City. of taking victory for granted and that struck me as something perhaps a little new about Arsenal.

Oh, these are the right performances Arsenal are putting in, they're not just match-winning performances. You talk about performance levels in each department. These are real performances, even the EAD one was a real performance from a defensive perspective, as good as you'll see and yesterday was a very professional performance to win a title where if you like it you do your job. And you know, I hope Arsenal beat Bayern Munich, of course I do. In fact, I think Arsenal will have difficulties against Bayern Munich. I think that's how it will be. I know that Bayern Munich are going through a torrid time in the Bundesliga right now, but I just feel that Arsenal will fight the power of history, that going to the alliance in the second leg may be too much for them from a point of view.

Sometimes there is a learning that has to happen in the Champions League. I think Arsenal. they may experience that in the next few weeks whether that's good or bad for them, we don't know yet. um city, I'm not so sure, but everyone has European football, everyone has things to deal with. um, it's tight. but City will be very happy this weekend. I think they will be happy that Liverpool dropped two points today. I think this is what we are looking at and it will have changes after the Liverpool draw and the trade predictor, I mean, it's never going to go exactly the way you think, but I feel like for a long time Arsenal have been very underrated.

I really believe that because they look so strong defensively that when you go into a game and when we were playing for Liverpool, we were that type of team where we were never a team that outperformed the teams that were probably more Manchester United. We were the team that could get somewhere. I think we'll get it, we'll keep it clean. sheet, whether in Europe or in the Premier League, and it gives you that belief through the team that you only need one, you know what I think, sometimes with Liverpool there is always the feeling that you need two or three and they are more . how capable of that Liverpool, but I just watched Arsenal yesterday and I agree with you, it was oneof those games.

I think it could easily be a draw, but I think if Arsal is going to have problems, I guess I'm not sure. His statistics are correct, but I think they have scored four times this season in which they have not scored in a game. I think Arsenal are more than City and Liverpool. That could be the way they lose points, you know, if it's a nil-nil or a 1-1, you can see, you know, you know, a strange goal or something So. I have always felt that Man City were still the favorites even when they were three points behind a couple of weeks ago.

I still believe that Manchester City had the team to stop in this title race. Was it the last one against City because we didn't cover their game specifically? Was there a moment yesterday when you doubted them Palace scored a good very very good goal early actually not really it almost felt too early you know I mean I didn't see I came back in the second half I thought I couldn't see Manchester City and Arsenal on the same day that would be good for me, eh, but when it got to zero, you know, it gives you a little bit of hope if you're obviously a Ral an Arsenal fan or a Liverpool fan, but no, and I thought it was sinister, you know, just from. bruyne and Har and come back and for me they are the two best players in the league or you know, you just think about Harland's physique, he will score goals.

Kevin De Bruyne is the best player in the Premier League and if those two started clicking. I think they are a level above what you know Arsenal and Liverpool have in terms of progress, so I thought it was quite sinister the way City went down one and still came back and won so convincingly. The first time I felt sinister was when Oscar Bob scored that goal at St James's Park. I don't know when it was about two or three months ago and you thought, oh, that little feeling you have that you were meeting a long one, no, but that feeling you have, you think, oh no, CU, you don't do it if they want run and that was the first time I had that sinister feeling and it's been kind of like that ever since and they're on a special streak, right um, but look, all three teams are doing really well right now, can't you? criticize any of them, they're all fantastic, they're doing a great job, you know, last year, we all expected, I think Arsenal would go down, they had that kind of emotion about them that they didn't have that resilience, that solidity and it.

It is better to see them with that great growth that they have had in the year and going forward. Three or four years ago, where I expected, I thought that the ceiling for Arsenal and Melat was the fourth. In general, I thought three, four years, I thought. which would be the best I would get. I didn't think they would invest and believe. They grow where they have to, but now they are at a very high level. Arsenal, this is a really high level of performance and that will take, I think, Liverpool and City to the end, because I don't see them going down. walk away and carry on like that, that's not going to happen and look unless they get three or four injuries and something stupid happens, but I see Cara's point is that the champions league is something that could distract them in some way, just mentally and physically , I could somehow get them away from this, but let's see what happens.

I mean, this is where Arsenal Football Club wanted to be. They weren't in these positions for that long. Quarterfinals of the Champions League, looking for a title. It's been so long since they were in this position. Well, let's see what happens next week, it's good that we're talking about it, it doesn't keep us talking, right? Which is wonderful because we are in that business and we love football and there is one. point between three of them seven games to play thank you friends thank you Peter thank you thank you