Jamie Carragher takes Gary Neville around Bootle: Liverpool, England, MNF & more | The Overlap

Southall said, you know, they just put the cameras down and we ended up walking in and he came in about 20 minutes and found us and we were standing, weren't there thousands? The only thing about the game was the goal from the right side because when there are a couple of finals sometimes people go, normally we don't go to the games, it's like a day outside and the boy told me what. It happened and even then, you know you're like the scores on the right side, you know what I mean, bending the left foot and that's ending up back there until five in the morning, life's a good day, although I mean no .

You went to Wembley, Dad was arrested, you ended up on the other side and it's been seven years. I never got the impression that you really enjoyed it when you were in England. I was no better than John Teddy or the old fader, and England was the only team in my life I didn't dominate, they didn't hate me enough not to play, even when I was with England. I'm thinking you grew up in this area of ​​Liverpool and then you end up getting called up. to the England scene, obviously I was in a lot of the teams you were in with England.

I never got the impression that you really enjoyed it when you were with England, it's true, yes, not really, and I'm sorry that James is having a bit of a bit of football, if he were ever lucky enough to be involved in the England team. England at any level, I would talk to him and tell him that maybe he has a different mentality to the way I did because this place was too important. to you or how they treated you with England, no, I had nothing to do, but they treated me. I am not one of them.

He shouldn't have been a regular in England. It wasn't good enough. He was no better than John. teddy or leo ferdinand or something like that campbell and all these players and I think that's what I'm talking about if I think about it, England is the only team in my life since I was five that I didn't dominate and I think I accepted that too easily instead leaving, I'm just happy to be on the team, yeah, I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't say I loved being there and I loved the fact that I didn't like being away from you, especially when you're not playing I love being with the team.

England from 21 from 21 I was vice captain I used to do my frank lampard he was the captain I felt a big part of the team and I felt that with England I think I would have done it I enjoyed it a lot

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part of it so that was not like that. I'm not going to try to attack anyone. I just think he should have fought a little more. In what way, how would you fight? I think I just accepted it. Real Fears and John Teddy were always going to play now.

That he could just play for Liverpool and play well? You know, I think I did, but I don't know. I just didn't hate myself enough not to play. I wish I had spoken to Steve McLaren or Sven and told him what I have to do to play. What if I'm not going to play? I'm so close to not coming because I've been doing it for 10 years. Now, instead of getting to the end and going to Stephen Clarendon, I won't go back again because I just want to focus on Liverpool because I didn't play in this game.

I would rather have warned Amelia, not warned her of the wrong way to be. Honestly, not dying trying, although yes, that's not in your nature, just accepting that something goes your way, that's the only thing I regret about England. I would never go to any manager for not choosing me because that's stupid, the others were better than me. I'm very aware of that, but I didn't hate myself enough to not play even when I was with England. I'm thinking Liverpool got cheesy. Yes, you know, I am training with England not to play with England. I train with England to make sure.

I am fit to play for Liverpool. I always had that mentality. I look at someone like Frank Lampard to be honest and when he and I were always the same under 21s and he had a great career in England with 100 caps and there were none. You know, meeting the two best under-21 players, we were both doing well at our clubs and I think he wanted to be an England player more than me and he worked his way into that midfield with Scholes, Gerard and Beckham, where you I couldn't not pick him, yeah, and I think he probably had that attitude with England that he'd probably do something.

I don't think I wanted it enough. I didn't force it enough now. You've been good enough, I don't know, because you're talking about two of the best centre-backs England have ever had. You played. You were incredible. I loved them both, so it's not a question. I'm saying I should have played, but. I could have had something there. I always think he could have done a little more. Two great things with England. Sven in terms of, you know, that golden generation, was he the right coach? What was your point of view on that? that feeling that's out there, some guys have just said it since you know we needed a manager that could get the best out of us, that we could play with a different system and all that kind of stuff, yeah, listen, I think Sven Gordon Erickson was a great manager compared to what he had in terms of julie and benitez and he's a patch on those two, i don't think, i actually think he did a good job in terms of where us women, you think about where we were under kevin keegan , I think there is the In the European championships we were very poor in the group.

We started the next one not very well. When we lost against Germany and he came on, he did very well. There was a mystique and there was an order to him and that, but I don't think so. I once spoke to him to be totally honest about football in five or six years. I never felt like a part of it, but I didn't know if that was part of what made it good in any way and that. it was like that sven you know these kinds of things in this order but I'm not one to make excuses I think you're just like me and you always blame someone else I hate hearing someone blame someone else I think I could have done better I guess I could, yeah , but when I listen to the players and me, this was the same with Capello in 2010, when all the training photos and the writing of this were and it's a bit like, oh, I'll shut up, you know what I mean, it's like Yes We were terrible in that World Cup We were terrible in all the tournaments How was that tournament under Cappello?

It was the tournament I enjoyed the most because I think I was older. He was more mature. I didn't mind having time alone in the living room. and stuff like that and to be honest, I just went a cappella, it wasn't an England thing, I wouldn't do it. I wanted to be handled by the guy who would handle Maldenia very easily and what this guy is like. And to be honest, It was a little, I wanted more, I think the language is a big problem for him, but he is Fabio Capello, he is like one of those legends who manages when I hear the players complain about him afterwards and say this, and I'm a little like I won.

Five series he's won two the league he's won the European court he's just capello so if that's what he does that's what he does then it's not him, is it? Another big thing was the division among Mourinho's Chelsea players, United's first Alex. ferguson benítez players was a strong coach at the time we lived in cool arsenal also with arsene wenger four great coaches and all the players that were there that were in those groups and we basically kicked each other on the weekends and then we we united England and did we ever come together as a group properly to be able to win?

Was it the spirit that cost us? Do you think so? I think so. I think so. I think that's probably something we should all remember. I especially regret it when you look at the England team now and find it strange. I guess I'm not sure I did it. I don't think I would have been able to talk to you when I left Old Trafford or Anfield about the game. I couldn't there's just no way that would have happened and I wouldn't have wanted it to happen, but now I'll see Rashford talking to Trent coming off a throw or I'll see Jordan Henderson messaging Raheem Sterling on social media when he scored the goal and I'm Like I can't believe no, I can't either, I still wouldn't do it now, but I go, well, you know, look, what is it, what was created, look what you are.

Look what the England team did in the tournaments and we messed up, yeah I don't think it's just Oz, I think it's the way we were brought up, there was a real tribalism, you know, I didn't like you. I probably don't like me or we got on a little bit, it was all you know when you go back to your room and you go back to your own club and you'll be a bit like you know you don't want to bump into a Liverpool player in the hallway you don't have the bumper to handle you tonight to play with the hall here yeah, no, you don't have that conversation, you know? and not at all yeah listen people think you're arguing all the fights it was nothing like that but it was almost worse than that it's actually harmless it's worse than that because they stay away from each other yeah are they trying to avoid conversation?

I think it would have been better if we were arguing. Yes, John wants to say that at least then I think he would have fixed things, but I think it's worse than that. Tell us about that moment that was provoked just to take a penalty and how that happened, but to be honest, no one mentioned it before the game. what could happen if they had ever told you before the game that you would come in to take the penalty, no, eh, but I mean, I had scored all the penalties in training, but like I said, dirimba is doing those competitions that we did and then he scored all the scores, yeah, so I didn't miss any in all the weeks we were there and then he just said, "You're coming, obviously, thinking that I didn't feel the least bit nervous about going in or taking the penalty." Well, I knew I was coming for that, yeah, you know, so I always remember when I came up, you said to me, do you want me to take it, do you remember no, yeah, I always remember you, you said to me, do you want ? that I took it, I don't remember at all, but I must have realized at that moment that it can't be right, are you really thinking about it?

I wouldn't say now, oh the manager made a mistake by putting I missed the penalty, you know, I listen to whatever, it's not ideal circumstances, you know what it was, I gave away a penalty for Liverpool in a cup final, I left the ball , I just came back and did a big long run, but I didn't do it. I don't stop and wait for his feet to blow the whistle, maybe he blew the whistle, but I just went boom, this is what I'm doing and I said yeah, so as I walk to take this penalty, I got I got that in the head, I'm putting that ball on the ground, I'm turning and as soon as I turn to the right it's because what I like about taking the penalty is running the right pace because I always wanted to decide first and I always think if you don't go up with enough rhythm on your side footage, you don't get rhythm and it was like I was doing the same thing and I went up, boom, I scored and the loss I'll take again I didn't blow my whistle but I got everything I am I'm not waiting for the whistle I just have in my head I'm doing exactly what I did and I caught fire and then and then when I ran up and then the edge was everywhere because he knew I wanted to go that way and then you're like, "Oh, I should have screwed it up, but I missed it, but listen, I'll be totally honest with you." I don't look back at it now and say oh, I missed the penalty for England, I did, I don't even think about it at the time, although we've obviously seen what's happening with Rashford, Saka and Sancho after the European. championships I don't think people criticized you after that game if it was for missing the penalty or if people were scoring a goal if I don't remember it at the time no, I don't think you could believe that I was taking them when the children are not in the school do not receive the school dinner joan and pandemic with the support of

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we made just over 15,000 lunch packs so when I hear the words christmas hunger and food bank it is an absolute scandal hello everyone, I hope you are enjoying this episode , this is just a quick thank you to Sky Bet, our partners for making this program possible.

It's something I've wanted to do for a long time. Subscribe. There are many more episodes to come and I hope you are enjoying it. Let's go back to this episode, so tell me about this, well, from Brutal for us, that's all me as a kid about Booting Brutal, obviously, what happened in Istanbul and this is the 23 foundation, uh, giving the kids a opportunity, so there are a lot of these murals out there. I feel like with the different Jordan Henderson players like Trent and the company or the guys that you make them are called more walls, we helped them as a charity where they wanted to retain favor so we got it, but there it is. there is no way we could have the Liverpool thing here there is no way in the world there would have been a murder, what weren't we doing during the pandemic around here?

You know, it's hard when the kids aren't in school, don't do it. We don't go into the school dinner, so a mother, a father or a single parent has to provide three meals a day for the children here and it's not easy for them, so we were putting a lot of food in the brony. almost like a food bank, it is still used like that. I think my mother works there on Fridays. We finance it through a plan called Christmas hunger that does not only occur during thedifferent study, it could be a different technology, the program has to continue, you can't let it stay the same 15 years just because, you end up killing yourself anyway because people get bored and that's why I think you know me and you said everything what we were able to say together so now it's good that every five, six and seven weeks we go ahead and do it, but I think someone younger will come if Declan right there will do three a season.

I think he's going. Jordan Henderson said I want to spend some time in your goal. It's a big part of my life on Monday nights. I'm really passionate. I'm really passionate about that and I tell this to people on the show, you tell me, we have it now, we're doing it now, he says they pass it on to someone else, but almost when we have it. don't be the one to ruin the showy whoever you pass it to next, they would never say oh they put it or something like that. It would be a bit like this football.

I would help them as much as possible because you would want this, you want this to go. in this, this show is amazing, you want me to be, I'm a part of it at a certain stage, it didn't start with me, it didn't end with me, but whoever comes next, I'd like it to be that way. Honestly, I would give you a lot of help. Make sure it's good, be careful with xyz like you did with me because I think we are very lucky to be in the best opportunity and it will be the best show when someone else is on it because of the first thing, which makes it great. expert, I think you have to be strong enough and I think that's what I'm talking about about characters, you can know the game, but sometimes you have to be strong enough as a character to say something that not everyone else says and you See it from differently, sometimes you may think, I believe that, but everyone says I'm missing something and I think a lot of experts or people coming into Punjabi don't want to go against the grain.

I think it's the best thing I've ever done in Monday night football. He was a referee at Leicester, everyone slaughtered this referee after the game, he cost less than the league and all these different decisions and I go in and look at them and think there's something different here and all the newspapers were against him. In fact, I called on the phone. Graham Paul in the morning because I wanted advice from him from a referee and he went against the referee and I said: how can I justify what I'm going to say? I can't, I'm doing it and I have all the angles and I made the case for the referee, I still believed it, it was a baggage with anyone, but almost a feeling after the show was on my social media, but yeah, that's a big deal.

I think I learned something that night that if you think about something, don't do it. just think about something, just do something stupid, but almost if you're passionate about something, even if other people don't think about it, do it and you know if you understand it when you do it wrong, but do it, but I guess I'm not saying try. To say something big every time you're on TV, I think it's important that you become a rental to quote, but you have to know when it's time to say something big. I think when it's big, when there's a real moment, it may not even be a big moment.

In terms of the good, it could be a bad moment in football, someone suffers a really bad injury or someone suffers a really bad moment. I think Skye hits those moments right on the head when you're afraid to start. You still have skulls. I'm playing every gig, you're playing, I still have Stevie playing and that was the only one I thought of Stevie and Stevie getting kicked out against Manu. He stomped, say Herrera, yes, remember, but it was at the beginning of the second half. so I've had 45 minutes and I'm thinking I can't leave, I can't even know it's me mate, yeah this is going to sound really poor, but I'm not going to criticize Steve, I'm going to say he's a disgrace or I'm thinking I've got to get my weight right here it might be my first year second year at Sky so sometimes you know I've got to make the video I've got to get. this and I was thinking carefully about that because I knew it wasn't about the score, it wasn't about you know, let's see this goal, it was about you know, what makes you sick is that it cost Liverpool again, yeah, yeah you know and it was like oh and sometimes I write things right, that's not like a right to everything I'm going to say, but almost bullet points, right, I need to crash, crash, crash and that was a moment, I think, before in heaven. .

I would have thought that yes, you shouldn't waste the meat, but almost just cast this right face. Who would have thought I would have enjoyed a trip to Liverpool? Thank you so much. My last question, do they pay me the same? ah you're not at all