Bassem Youssef: Israel-Palestine, Gaza, Hamas, Middle East, Satire & Fame | Lex Fridman Podcast #424

If I hate you, that's great, but if I have a story to back up that hate, that's even better, one of your favorite words, Jihad, that's my favorite pastime, it doesn't matter now who you vote into power, don't worry. They will listen, they would. listen to the people who were paid to be there when the military came, people were walking towards me like they were pointing the finger at me, like don't talk about C, don't talk about the army, huh, we love you now, but don't we? I wouldn't like that, so I called John and he told me he didn't know what to do and he said the most interesting thing in the world and he said, "If you're afraid of something, laugh at the fact that you're afraid of it." The following is a conversation with bosam youf, a legendary Egyptian American comedian, the so-called John Stewart of the Middle East, who fearlessly attacked those in power even when his job and his life were at stake.

The boss is a beautiful human being, it was truly a pleasure to To meet him and have this fun, fascinating and challenging conversation, this is Alex Freedman's

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to support him, check out our sponsors in the description and now, dear friends, here it is bosam Yousef, his wife is half Palestinian and I heard them say. They've been trying to kill her but she keeps using the kids as human shields, so have you considered negotiating a ceasefire? Well, the thing is, every day, every minute of the day, in a married life is a negotiation, everything can explode into a full-scale war.

Starting with a simple sentence like good morning, what should we do with the children today? What should we do with that furniture? Any prayer can take you to heaven or hell at the same time, so negotiate with the terrorists. Oh yes, yes, 100%. Yes, and for her I am also her terrorist, so it's the same. Terrorist on both sides on a more serious note when you heard about the October 7th attacks, what was going through your mind if I was allowed to use a bad word? I was like As many as possible, I like, oh, part of my comedy is I describe a situation where I was in a restaurant with producers and there was an attack two blocks away in Chelsea, New York, on 206 and, Of course, this is like this, damn, what is going on? what's happening to us now and there's like two different reactions, like the white reaction that's like oh my god, I hope no one is heard, this is terrible, I hope everyone's okay and there's the Arab reaction, what's it called?

You know the name because you know what is going to happen. I was afraid of what was really going to happen in that area and it's like, oh my God, it's going to be horrible and the way it was reported I didn't know how to do it. handle this so I basically hid for like 3 4 days and talked about Piers Morgan uh Team talking to me twice three times I like no I can't how can I defend that? How can you defend rape? the beheaded babies and all that, and then I started looking at the news a little bit and then I started seeing people coming on the shows and saying things that I know, as an Arab, as a Muslim, as someone from that region, which is not true, but I didn't know how what to say how to say it so I said for the third time when they asked me I said like well, put me in and I went there, it was more figurative to talk about a suicide mission and uh because it's a lose-lose situation.

Can. I can lose things in Hollywood. Can. I even remember my manager as Bess, be careful. I mean, are you sure you want to do it? My managers told me: please don't do it, please don't. do it and on the other hand, if I don't do it well, whatever means I'm going to be rejected by my own people, so it's a lose-lose situation because anything I say will never be enough and anything I do won't be good enough and uh I was walking in there and I felt like I was going into a trance for the 33 minutes I was in that interview for the first time, you passed out, I passed out, I passed out and a lot of people ask me if the headset was a little bit when the earpiece kept falling it's like no it was really falling and it disconnected and I had to put it away because I can't see them all I can hear them I can only hear them and I could wait any time okay B thanks I like it I was fighting for every second to say words and put things out there, yeah, for people who don't know, this is your conversation, interview with Pierce Morgan and you could see it, I couldn't see it.

I was like the lens with the camera and just a dream or a real nightmare, yeah, hello, hello, hello, and it could end at any moment your career and everything, yeah, yeah, so what was the impulse that led you To do it? To overcome that fear, there are several things first of all, I don't want to say it's just my wife's family because my wife's family has always been there, but this time it was different, the bombing, the attack, generally they are one of Those people who are far from everything, no matter what happens in Gaza, they are always in safe places but this time it seems that there was no safe place and we already found out that two three of the cousins ​​and uncles have already lost their home, so this was too much, I wanted to say something to those people because I know you know I did, I made one of the jokes that I made about like oh, you know, it's Hassen, his cousin, he's a loser, he's a doctor, he's a doctor and he always.

They bombed a hospital, we were worried about him, so I wanted to say that because I felt like this is a family I've never seen in my life. I've never seen her, in fact she only saw one or two guys because you know. They can't leave, but I said I need to talk, at l

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I'm doing something for that extended family that I've never met, but also because when the P Morgan team called me a couple of times they said okay, let's see what's happening on the show. and I just look at the things and the lies and the one-sided reports that made my blood boil and then I thought, why am I afraid?

If I say something, I may lose my career, as expected. wait a minute, but that was the reason I left Egypt I said, wait, I left, I came to America, I came to the land of the free where I can say whatever I want and yet I have limitations on what to say, I want I mean, I thought I left that behind, I mean what's happening and I understand, I understand the connection of how sensitive it is when you talk about Israel and all the accusations already made, but as an Arab and a Muslim I don't react the same when you talk. about Saudi Arabia or Iran or Egypt or any of them it's like, hey, you want to, you want to criticize some of these countries.

I'll do it with you because I have strong opinions about what happened and I've already been expressing them, but when I speak, that's why I and I speak and there are a lot of Jewish people who come to my show and they understand that they understand the separation, but that guy of a group of people blackmailing and saying and not saying what they have in their Keep in mind that it is one of the things that pushes me to go to the program. What bothered you was what was said or how it was said, because there are lies that are generally in the media, but there was a total contempt for humanity that you talk a lot about in your program about human suffering and I felt that here the suffering human was not the same.

I felt like that's why I came up with this like what is the exchange rate today, what is the exchange rate. rate today there is, of course, it's terrible to see someone die, but when I feel that our life is worthless, yes, you had a graph, um, for crypto of an investment, you analyze it from an investment perspective, of course, in the dark one and you said that a certain year was a good year, yes, 2014 2014 was a good year for investment purposes and also to refer to the family member that you called a loser, you said that, uh, you called him. a conversation with him and he keeps saying that he is not using anyone for human shields and you called him a loser, what are you doing?

You can't even give him a job. A liar, he lied to us because I have to believe, but this is what It's also one of the things like how it was said, they were things that I have been hearing, I don't know what was going through my head, but they are things that I have been hearing all my life in the media. Israel warns civilians before bombing them and that's okay, but it's not okay. Israel is trying to minimize civilians, but it kills them anyway and it's okay, but it's not okay, so it's like the indoctrination we've been hearing as if it's okay. and then suddenly it's not like that anymore, there are several layers that almost sometimes hide the obvious horror of the situation with some politeness and all this kind of stuff, just the basic value of human life that says it's a difficult situation , is what Would you do if you were Israel?

BB I would call you a big fan big fan of your comedy mhm um first of all you would hang up right away you would hear it no I definitely hear it like wait a minute that's Mater that's that man material, I like him, he called me, I was sitting with my family , just like my phone, like oh nyaho, yeah, it just shows up that way. I mean, what would you do? What would you do in the situation to answer this question? We need to understand how Israel thinks there is an incredible speech given by Gon Levy, the famous Israeli journalist, and he describes a situation where he was in the West Bank and there was a checkpoint and at that checkpoint there was an ambulance with a Palestinian patient and He sat there for an hour and a half without moving and then he went to talk to the soldiers like guys, why don't you let them go?

It's like he let them go and then he said imagine if he was your father and the soldier stood up like What are you pigs, you're not human, so when you tell me what would you do if Israel did it, we really need to ask ourselves how Israel sees the Palestinians and how it sees the Palestinians because they look at them less than humans and There is an incredible talk by Mior Meyer, he was a Holocaust survivor and he said that I learned in Aitz when I was there in the concentration camp that for For one group of dominant people to dehumanize another group, they must first dehumanize themselves. and Israel looks at the Palestinians as inferior people, as inferior beings, as some people who are expendable and the way they treat them is that they don't really care, that's why the exchange rate is like that for me, if I'm Israel.

It'll be like, what would you do if you were the United States in Native American times, they were killing people by the millions? When you dehumanize a group of people, you don't really care, so if I were Israel, I would do exactly what Israel is doing right now because no one holds me accountable, no one stops me, and I can get whatever I want throughout my history. through violence. I think a lot of the things you just said are a little exaggerated, so let me let me try it, let's try it, so not everyone in Israel, so let's look at various groups, so people in the government, IDF soldiers and citizens who are none of those and not all of any of them, see Palestinians as less than human, just a percentage.

So what percentage, in your sense, is the people who have the power? So that's mainly the focus of your comment when you say people in Israel, you really mean the people in power, the people have the power, but, but, as much as I do. Of course, I mean the people in power because when I talk even when I talk about America I talk about the people in power, when I talk about Egypt I talk about the people in power because I really can't talk about the 100 million people in Egypt. or the 11 million people in Israel, of course not, there are people who come in and demonstrate against Netanyahu and want him out of the government, but we have to admit that Israeli society as a whole has moved quite a bit to the right and has It's been like a lot of extremes and you know what happens when you go to the right or you go to the extreme, the other person goes to the extreme and extremism begets extremism, so thanks for the clarification, but I really meant with the people. of power when people criticize the United States for going to Iraq, of course, I am not criticizing the citizens, but you raised another point that is interesting and it is very difficult to see in the hearts of people, but I wonder if We look at the average Palestinian and the average Israeli and when you look at the other, do you have any hate in your heart?

Well, everyone probably has something. What is that amount? When you look at a person who looks different than you, you know how much hate there is, it depends. about what each person's life situation is, so at the Berlin Film Festival, like a couple of weeks ago, an Israeli and a Palestinian received an award together and the Israeli director said: let's go back to Israel. Going to the West Bank he will have no rights and I will have full rights to life. These people manage to work together and be friends and have empathy for each other. Now the average Palestinian is a very difficult question because is it the Palestinian in the diaspora or the Palestinian in Gaza or the diaspora in the West Bank or the citizen of Israel who still has fewer rights than a Roman citizen of Israel as a Jew and it really depends if there are people in Arabs in Israel who are having a great life and there are Arab people who are having a miserable life, but there are definitely people who living in G or in the West Bank is something like being on the lower level of life.conditions now let's talk of the hatred that the Palestinians see from the Israelis the Palestinians see oppression limitation of movement limitation of the freedom they have and then when something happens you see all the force coming in destroying their hometaking members of his family there There will be absolutely no reason for him to love the other, the Israeli, because he knows that he does not have the power, but lives under his rule.

All he sees is the rocket or whatever, but he sees the reaction and doesn't see. what happened to them and as humans we are selfish, we see what really affects us as humans and I can't even imagine what it would be like to live as a Palestinian and I don't even talk about Gaza because everyone talks about Gaza, but let me give you an example and don't I'm going to talk about the 12,000 children murdered in Gaza, let's talk about the four weeks in the West Bank on March 4. Amar Nar H1 sitting next to his father, shot at one point, is sitting in a car. with his father by IDF soldiers Muhammad zad, 13 years old, March 3, shot in front of a UN school while on season with his friends Muhammad ganim, 15 years old, March 2, received shot while standing in front of a street front during a night exchange on February 23 s Jal he was killed by a drone February 22 F San killed while standing in front of the top of a Red Cross building uh Nel Nel zad February 14 Valentine's Day shot in the head while leaving school February 11 Muhammad katur American citizens murdered while in a parking lot and mu Shams on February 9 was murdered right in front of his home because a soldier came reversing towards him and then someone opened the door and shot him and left him.

This is the daily life of people in the West Bank. the justification that the IDF provides terrorism terrorism or I don't know, I mean you can't really say like human shields, but they would say like they were throwing stones, there was a guy who stood up to Chris Rock and said that as his son, a US citizen. He would kill and like they were throwing stones, so we killed him, even when they were throwing stones you kill him, but the thing is you see, that's how easy it is for them to get rid of Palestine. I mean, I love like it is.

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because you're in tech and I'm tech ignorant. There is a movie called The LAB. It is directed by an Israeli director named Utam Feldman and talks about how the military industry in Israel. It's very advanced and what's really mind-blowing is that in that movie it shows how the military tests their weapons in the field in urban areas with Palestinians, it's heartbreaking, you know, as a doctor, there are five stages of testing, there's like, uh, there's preclinical clinical discovery and then market evaluation and then post-marketing by the FDA, FDA value approval and then the FDA releases the market five just to take a pill and you go in and he interviews people Like, where did you try this?

They test it in the field, so when you like when human life is so cheap and so indispensable it made me react because you know that this has actually been the state of humanity. Humanity has lived and survived. and by killing each other, but it was like we were remotely, they took us out of it, people in Greece didn't know what Alexander the Great was doing, he was killing and calling like we called him the great because, but he was killing him he was conquering he was invading Julius Caesar all the greats he would do but killing was hard killing had to have some kind you have to be with your enemy then you move back catapults then cannons then a little back and then you're like starting remotely now you're killing people behind the screen with a button with the push of a button you know a lot of people say terrorism they killed you with a knife they killed a person with a knife they shot you that's terrorism but if you fly a $64 million F-16 and drop an A84 bomb of 16,000 Canadian dollars, that is not terrorism because it is remote, you are behind the screen, so what happened?

What Israel is doing is withdrawing like the United States also with drones and then when you push someone to participate in what they always say about bombing them into the stone age, what happens when the screens and all the obstacles that they have put between you and the people you have treated them this way when this is a gap and You come face to face, you will come face to face with what you have created, yes, there are many interesting things that you just said, so one is the methodology of killing if you want to see some horrible large-scale murders of people or talk about the Holocaust. but that's visceral, you can watch Stalin's hollmore where murder occurs by starvation by Churchill in India in Churchill in India uh and the Great Leap Forward by May so starvation is something we don't usually think of as murder because it's quiet It is slow and the interesting thing about hunger is that people do not complain because they are dying because they are exhausted MH that is one and the other is the value of human life it does seem that each culture has an unequal valuation of human life, for what those two things combined create a complicated military picture of the world, yes, but the thing is, we see technology as the Savior and we talk about how AI will disrupt, disrupt, disrupt, disrupt, and now, if you go You talk about going to West Bank, people in the West Bank walk around and they don't see humans, they see people yelling at them from the Towers or behind the screens or doing and they have biometrics that are developed through the Basil system, that's how it's done. by HP or Google and Amazon, which are part of the Nimbus project and you see the IND division developing all this like metrics and surveillance and all that and then you have kind of the gospel that people have actually said that. the gospel can actually create a list of targets using Ai and give it a green, yellow or red to move forward and now AI is not only disrupting the market, it is disrupting our humanity and we are so comfortable killing people from afar killing people with Pressing the button, now it's like dating apps, you know when you swipe left and right, it's like, oh right, it gets so cheap, it's not like meeting someone, it's like, oh, it's like a lot of fish. in the sea the same with the AI ​​boom 500 people killed boom they killed it's so easy it's so easy it's so easy and then it's so far away from you so when you put these people in this condition you've literally put them in a different universe yours you're behind your air conditioning screens like you're pushing them to blow up a university, it's amazing, but then you find out what you've done, you come across the Frankenstein that you've created and then people say, oh, look what what they do to us.

You just gave me this picture of a dating app from hell where the leaders are just sitting there and like they swipe left, they invade, they destroy just the Bor puppet government, yeah, and then they turn off the phone, they leave to sleep, so you know, I traveled to the West Bank and I mentioned to you offline that I really loved the people there, just um, I've met a lot of people like that in Eastern Europe, where I grew up, uh, yeah, like the extravagant, big personalities, all that. Me too. I met a person who is in charge of a refugee camp who was buying IDF solder and I'm not sure the words he said are important as a consequence of what you mentioned, which is the deep hatred in his eyes, mhm, that's what they did.

I didn't feel fixable at all, it was pain, it was like a foundation of pain and also a hatred and it was like, wow, this is what you kill, you kill a person, that's what you create because we have some kind of facade . row of seats to what's happening, we think we're in this, but we can't really understand it, I mean, people like, oh, we're just going to go in, take out Hamas and we're going to bring them back to me, and what happens? With people coming back in, how do you think they would look at you? what have you created what have you done my show in Egypt was all about propaganda it's about the use of words words are very important the decapitated babies were not chosen at random because you see If it plants a certain image in your brain, imagine if you are going to walk in, what a baby can do, he can smile, cry and poop, that's no threat, so when you tell people that 40 decapitated babies are such animals that they didn't see the baby raped women, of course, he's anamal to do that and they would go through that and what was very frustrating about the conversation is the Gish Gallop, the Gish Gallop throwing, you see the distractions, you see what happens, like what is the response provided.

Israel defends itself. Do you condemn Hamas? Does Israel have the right to exist? Decapitated babies. Raped women. Why don't Arab countries take them? They kind of distract you, they throw little things at you so that you don't know what to do, oh, the honor of the anti-Semite October 7 October 7 October 7 and suddenly you get distracted and they force you to discuss all these little things and discuss what is happening right now is basically getting bogged down in giving them time to do what they do, so there is a certain degree of propaganda about beheaded babies and all this kind of stuff that is so exaggerated that it shuts down the real conversation about real mistakes war crimes in both M sides, so it's exaggerating to the point that everyone on social media and everywhere in the press and everywhere is discussing almost becoming desensitized to the real horrors of death, which are more mundane, are not as dramatic as decapitated babies because people people, a baby gets shot, but decapitated babies are like the blade of a knife that sticks into the skin, the trachea, the flesh, the decapitated spine, as if you could, like If he were dead, no, you come in, this is hate, so much hate, and you know why.

You have made me laugh at the darkest things. You are such a beautiful person. Your dark humor is simply wonderful. But you see, this happened to the Jews before. Remember the lie of blood. Where did the blood lie come from? They come from these rumors that Jews suck the blood of babies. this is what they did to them that's exactly what's in the cup that's a very delicious baby delicious baby but but this is what you do you tell people something and it happened to the Native Americans when they were here when they went and got clean a whole tribe and the Jewish people, one of the minorities that were persecuted and used this against them for a long time and it's terrible and terrifying that it was used again, so I had a very long debate. about Israel and Palestine and the really painful thing about there being two historians was that it was deep, it was thorough, it was fascinating, but constantly asking about sources of hope or solutions there were none, there was a sense of something really dark. feeling that there is no hope on both sides, it is desperate, so you know, I look to you for a source of hope, do you have any hope here?

Short-term, long-term solutions, Obama has summed this up beautifully in his book. He said that the reason the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is so chronic is that one side has a lot of power and the other side has absolutely no power and that's what he said, he said like you have Israel, they basically don't listen to us. because they are supported by people who are bigger than the president, bigger than the Administration, they know they can, I mean, like you, OB like Netanyahu was recorded many times saying that it's basically like putting down Americans like me, we control the 80% of the population.

They don't care, this is something like non chalen, something like uh, we, we have them and there is really nothing that forces Israel to give up anything because, at the end of the day, what is a compromise, a compromise is Like if I give something, you give something to Israel. They don't give anything and they project it onto you, so, for example, how many times have we heard it said: oh, the Palestinians were giving like four five 6 seven 15 chances and they were told no and yet when you read the story that is not the case at all? for example in 20, the whole idea that Arafat walked away from Oso, that didn't happen and there's an amazing video of you know, what's his name Joe SC Scoro with Misha and they were introducing his father, uh brazinski, he was the uh National.

The security advisor and Jo carabo said: "well, you know, Arafat left the oo C and the Palestinians and then bis are like that, it's embarrassingly superficial, it's like hearing what happened, there were a lot of captures in the Bear Court, it was very unfair the Palestinian, so AR said I agree, but I need to take him to the Arab capitals and they went to Sharm, they came to Egypt and he and H Barak went there and then they left because there were elections and Shon lost it. It was Destro. This is one of the reasons why people are like that.

It's like the facts don't matter as much as what the narrative is that is being controlled, but what the biggest barriers to peace were there, do you think fundamentally. Is it that the leaders don't want a two-state solution or were there small nuanced differences that, if resolved, could have led us to a two-state solution? I mean, maybe there was a certain point where the Israeli leaders were more open? to a compromise, but I can't say that because every time Israel gives back land it has to be after some use of force, the 1973 war, the first and the second, the casualties in Kaza, they never give up land voluntarily. and for Peace because if I have so much military, I can do whatever I want, why would I give up anything?

I have so much power,but Israel is. a foreign country Israel is a client country that we sponsor and they should actually be responsible and accountable for what they do. You mentioned 1948 the nakba but before that 4139 41 to 45 the Holocaust What are you doing? What do you do with the Holocaust? How is it incorporated into the calculation? Oh yes, what a terrible morality it is, leading to the displacement of 700,000 Palestinians from the land. How is that resolved? It's terrible, but I mean systemic. The annihilation of the Jewish people under Nazism is like a carefully designed and planned thought, it was terrible, it was like something like human ingenuity put into something that is very evil, but also, it's not just that that happened, we need to remember that OT Frank, Annafran's father, has had his Refugee Visa rejected by the United States.

There are a lot of people who were rejected by the United States and rejected by other European countries and then pushed to Palestine, so you have to put yourself out there. between the Arabs and the Arabs, okay, we're sitting here, okay, come and then, okay, you no longer have a home or a country, that kills you. I mean, look if I'm not Arab and give it to me. that kind of terrible piece of human garbage like oh my god that's terrible but then I'm Arab it's like yeah I'm so sorry but what do I have to do with that?

Why is it my fault the persecution of The Jewish people began in the 19th and 9th centuries because they were as if they were the first anti-Christians. They were like criminal immigrants. They were like conspirators. If it throws anti-Semitism at us in Europe, you understand that, like Henry Ford, Henry Ford is one of the greatest anti-Semites that he was, he was the inspiration for Adolf Hitler, that's how anti-Semitic Henry Ford was and you like the shine. about it and then suddenly we as Arabs have to pay the price. Why do I want to ask several questions there, but one just walks away?

Why do you think Jew-hatred has been such a viral idea throughout human history? Oh, it's very easy. they all started from Christ they killed Christ they killed Christ they killed Christ they are the murderers of Christ that is a very sexy story and that was so yeah that was and that remained for years that remained for centuries Sorry, centuries, they are the murderer of Christ and then the C the Catholic church did not allow usury but they would work in usury so that they would become rich now the people we hate that we accuse of feeling Christ are becoming rich so that is envy now and that is all and and and that's hate.

I mean, when you talk about ghettos, ghettos weren't just isolated parts of cities, sometimes those ghettos were outside of cities. Jews were not even allowed to work in many professions, they were not allowed to enter unions of certain professions. so they usually had to go to work and they became rich, so people hated them more. The first crusade did not kill a single Muslim, everyone they killed was Jewish and when they finally reached Jerusalem, everyone they killed was Jewish, they were almost wiped out. the Jews, so that was all this and of course you have the Middle Ages, who do you need as an enemy?

The Jews, it is true, are the murderers of Christ. It doesn't get any bigger than this and then you move fast. I mean one of the things. which I discovered was very very very very crazy when Henry Ford imported the protocols of the Elders of Zion by the way in the Arabic word Protocols of the Elders of Zion is so popular and for obvious reasons and for people who I don't know, it's like a lot of similar stories and basically it's like the Jews are saying we're going to take over the world and we're going to do this and we're going to do that. and whatever people don't know is that it's a work of plagiarism, it was plagiarized from a satirical work called conversation in hell between mcki and moniku and that's just how it is and it's kind of based on a chapter or a scene or something like that is crazy but it's crazy how catchy it is like yeah weird yeah because if I hate you that's cool but if I have a story to support that hate Oh that's even better but it's like one of the best stories, one of the stickiest stories about hate, it's probably the most effective because you know a lot of people hate other groups of people, but that's the sexiest story of all because humans need to focus their hate on their insecurities and their flaws on one thing. in which they can practice that hate if it's a great person if it's an even better group, but how do you incorporate into this C that that group is quite small, there are 16 million Jews around the world mm and You mention how the responsibility is of the Arab peoples.

You know that everyone should be to blame for not welcoming the Jews after the Holocaust, but you know the reality of the situation. If we look at the religious SCE, there are 16, let's say, million Jews. and I don't know how many Muslims, but 1.8 billion, yes, yes, how do you make that difference, that 100-fold difference? Does that factor into the feeling that Jews in Israel might feel? You know, the existential fear that we might be this small group. they could be destroyed Jews in Israel have every right to be afraid of everything they see and everything they have been told, but I would say that I don't like calculation or numbers, of course, like being small, of course, it's a factor but it's never an excuse to take something that's not yours, I mean hey you have 300 million Americans and we have 52,502, let's say we give them a state, there are too many of them for many of you to just give them something I know it's like the fact that I have something and you don't and I have, there's too many of me and there's too little of you and then you come in and it's not really Israel against the word Arab or Muslim because we have to say that we are big, but it's the Palestinians that are in there and they're being subjected to that, so it's not really like the 1.8 billion and the 16 million Jews and the 1.8 billion if you look at them some of them They don't care, some of them live in regimes that are oppressed and those regimes are supported by the United States to make it easier for me, as an Empire, to take what I want from this country if I control the dictator and tell them that his power is tied to my ability and my desire to keep him in power, that's why there is a total disconnect between the people in power in Arab and Muslim countries and the people themselves, can they speak? until 1948, you know because you mentioned taking land that is not yours, maybe there are parallels with the native Americans, mhm, yes, there was a war where the Jewish minority fought that war against several Arab states and won that war, how do we incorporate that to Catholicism?

Yeah, well, that's it. It's also a misconception, a misinterpretation of the event because it seems like it was like the little, it's like a David and Goliath kind of story, but and I was like, how did we not do that, but actually with numbers uh, I can't get it out right now, but if you look at the numbers, the number of tanks, the planes, the trained officer because a lot of those Jewish fighters came from World War II, they were seasonal fighters and I actually had more planes, more tanks, more artillery, more gun parts, more of all the others combined because the people who really like to fight were Egypt and you have to do it in 1948, many of those Arab countries didn't even have their independence.

They would like to send a cavalry or a horse town, but in fact the idea was for us to win against the Seven Nations. The numbers were totally in Israel's favor. They were better equipped. They were better trained. They had more tanks. and and artillery and and and and planes and they plan they planned better, so yes, they deserve the victory because they planned and we did it, so for you there was an asymmetry in military power even then, but what do you do with the fact that the La war was like that, if you look at the history of the world, MH there are wars over land.

I agree with you, this has been the history of humanity. Humanity did not live peacefully, it's about people taking people and E killing people and taking them away. land, but here there are two differences, generally the conquering power, like for example England, they had England and they conquer India and after finishing the occupation they return to England, France, Greece, Persia, Egypt, they would like to expand and shrink, expand and shrink. I have always been there, what is different here is exactly what happened in Australia and America, a group of people came not only to conquer and take the land, but they changed completely to replace them and remove them or kill them, it was very easy with The Indians because they had small parks there were no social networks they did it for 400 years they had time the problem is what is happening now I agree with you it may not be that bad but we are there and we are seeing it happen and now we have to face the realities of war and Empire and conquest because you know what the problem is, we told ourselves we can be better.

Yes, after 1948 there was the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it means that we are going to be better. humans, we are not going to kill and take land, we are not going to displace people, we are not going to take people for what they are, now there are laws, there is international law, there is an International Court of Justice and now Israel is pointing the finger the

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finger to all of them, so isn't it somehow fundamental all of this what we're talking about is us as a civilization on social media in uh In articles and books and uh in newspapers we're just trying to figure out who we are As a people, I think the impact came from the fact that we thought that we, as Humanity, had evolved and now what we have really changed is that we are making more progress in effectively eradicating a group of people because of the technology that we have and the fact that we can do that before the eyes and ears of the whole world and we're watching it on our phone we have a window we have a window to the war you know 1945 people didn't know what was happening in Japan that's cool We heard it on the radio like, oh, Today our forces arrived and launched, we don't know, we heard it, maybe we saw photos after that and it's quite edited, but now we see it, we're in it and that's it.

It's a lot for our psyche and we can understand it and it's like and then the Arabs say like guys, you told us that we came to the West because they told us that we were equal, you know the Universal Declaration of the Right of Co-authors his name is Stefan Hassel he's Jewish he's a Hello survivor and do you know what happened to him, by the way, he died a couple of years ago, but before he died he was canceled by many people and They called him an anti-Semitic because he joined the BDS movement and talked about Palestine, which is the author of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that we value so much and we thought that would define our humanity, but then we enter and we are. surprised it's like maybe they sold us something maybe it was false advertising you shared a tweet from an account called Awesome Jew uh says Islam Nai comedian bosam YF comedian and quotes by the way yes yes yes of course, because I'm not funny, so Islam.

Nazi comedian bosam YF is now denying the octub. I love that you retweeted like that twice, yeah, I guess because he's announcing some upcoming dates, now he's denying the October 7th massacre. The Muslim radical bosam YF is known for his radical radicalism, he said twice for his radical radicalism. Jew-hatred in Israel in a recent clip claims that the atrocities committed on October 7 are made up. We look for all the information about any of his upcoming shows, as well as the places that house the garbage where Jews feel safe with this Nazi Nazi, yes. This is never the first time I've interviewed a Nazi, so it's an honor, it's the first time I've been called a Nazi, the first time, the first time.

I've been called so many things in Egypt, so in Egypt they called me a CIA agent, funny. a secret Muslim Brotherhood a secret a secret Jew a secret Jew uh there was also an article that was published about me in FR state media saying in detail how bassim has been recruited by CIA agents using John Stewart to use

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to take down In the country, I was a Freemason, an infidel, um, a member of the Knights of the Temple, something like that, and there are actually people from the Muslim Brotherhood on his program, they said that he is actually an Israeli and they have forged an Egyptian ID to to come, so it's like when I said I had left all that behind and I come here it's like an anti-Semitic Nazi boom, damn, I mean, I really covered everything, I don't know what. otherwise, I mean, I think it's like I'm collecting Ph.D.s.

I'm getting all these credits. How do you deal with that? How do you deal with attacks? I mean, this goes back to the uh decision. Do the interview with Pierce Morgan, how do you like psychologically to launch all these types of attacks at the beginning? It's funny, but when they evolve into something else, that's what it is. For example, I was kind of laughing at the whole thing about calling me that, calling me that, but then when people came and threaded the theater, because they're not the people who are doing those accusations that would come to you, are the people that would hear and I see those accusations and I act on them and there is always the fear of, I mean, we have a lot of things on the airplane that someone would hear something about another person and go kill them and kill them.

Let him be like any other person, like thisSure, honestly, there is a block. There's a person. There are so many things that happened and I don't. I never, ever speak ill of Egypt, it is my country, it is how it has been throughout my marriage. I lived there for 40 years of my life, but when they hurt you so much instead of trying, I don't want to take revenge. I don't want to like that, I just want to avoid it because Egypt gave me so much Fame and so much love and so much hate and so much Rejection.

It's a very, very, very difficult relationship and it's uh and a. A lot of people tell me, well, don't you miss Egypt? And I tell them every time that Egypt no longer has time, that it is neither bad nor good, that it is neither worse nor better, it is just that I am different and the places are different and the people are different and the circumstances are different, any image that what you love no longer exists, that's why many immigrants, especially Arab immigrants, live here but they are there and then when they come back from vacation they are disappointed because they didn't find what they wanted and then they come back here and they are disappointed because this is what they want to return to but it is no longer there, yes, their vision of that place is from a different time.

I have that. You already know my parents, but to all those who left the Soviet Union, I mean, it is such a complicated relationship that sometimes borders on disappointment due to hatred in the case of the Soviet Union, perhaps similar to Egypt are the promises sold when You were younger and the promises were broken by the possibility of what was supposed to be with the Soviet Union. I'm sure it's the same with Egypt. Iran is the same. So they have a very complicated relationship with that. Yes, that's why, like for example, the people of Iran. I remember, I remember quite well the World Cup that was held in the United States and the Iranian team was playing in the United States and there were people in the audience or wearing Iran, they hate the regime but they have this kind of connection with the country, yes, and this is it, you can really love the country and you don't have to agree with the regime.

Would you ever perform in the West Bank and not in Gaza? Because if I go there, I have to go to Israel. checkpoints and I don't want to go through Israel. I don't want an Israeli soldier to tell me what to do. Yes, there is a degrading aspect to all of that, even in subtle ways. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I have so many Palestinians. friends with American passport American passport who live here, were born here and talk about the humiliation and bullying and harassment that they find themselves in it's like you want me to try, yeah, that little bit of humiliation, a little bit, oh, sometimes .

It's important, but I realized that you know that even a small part has a after a lifetime that can turn into hatred towards the other, yes, and resentment, resentment and then how do you do something with that resentment that I have ? a friend of mine, he's from Palestine, blessedly back, he's an American here, he was born here and we talk about, you know, of course, we have this whole discussion about what happened and he tells me, you know, on October 11 in the West Bank and There was a village called K KRA and in that village the settlers surrounded the village and sent a message on Facebook like you rats are coming out of your sewers and we will be waiting to intimidate you through technology. and then they said, hey, it's KRA that has another settlement next door called ish kodesh ish kodesh, they have people there that were training something called mishar Yesa, which are basically the Guardians of Yesa and it's like a paramilitary group that trains other settlers . about military combat, giving them weapons and doing military drills and they went there like militarized and they went there and it was actually co-founded by a Jewish guy from Brooklyn not even and and and like an Israeli and he's like one of the Disciples. from May Kahana, I'm sure you know that Mah is who was the Jewish defense that led the people that murdered Alex AA here in the United States and were there with their guns out intimidating people.

Now this story carries everything that is wrong. With the situation, you have people from Brooklyn from outside just because they are Jews they can't come and they can claim the land of the people there. Anyone from Po just because he is a Jew can come and take other people's land. They are using technology to intimidate Palestinians, they have unchecked military power, these are not IDF soldiers, they are settlers and they have the freedom to intimidate and kill people, and you understand that this is the daily life of Palestinians, not in Gaza, in the West Bank. What do you do from your what do we do what do people do to push this towards peace towards flourishing?

This is what I want to talk to the people of Israel. What is Israel doing right now? It's not just unfair to the Palestinians, it's unfair to the Jewish people in Israel no, it's unfair to the Jewish people around the world because the way Israel ties itself to Jews and Judaism at a certain point, you know, remember like Isis and Ka. And when everyone hated Muslims, you know that at some point humans are humans. simple, they cannot have the nuances to separate themselves, so anyone who has a Muslim name, a Muslim face, a beard and looks Muslim, would do so by the actions of those atrocities, you have the power as a person to separate yourself from an abusive power . a horrible power and be yourself.

I am really concerned because the rise of anti-Semitism and the rise of hatred against Jews is not due to Jews, but due to the actions of a government. Jews do not have to be on the side of aparti Rony. castels is a South African Jew and he fought shoulder to shoulder with Tosh alongside Nelson Badel, he was part of the African National Conference (ANC) and he had an article that said: I know what apart is and I saw Israel and this is what they have and the La thing is Israel, the Israeli government should listen to other people.

You can't call anyone who criticizes you an anti-Semitic or, if they're already Jewish, call them self-hating Jews, you can't do that, you can't keep doing that because we. I did that when I came in and criticized Islamists like: oh, you hate yourself as a Muslim, you're not really Muslim, you're an infidel, you're a secret, you're secular, whatever power we have to reform the course. holding the people in power accountable and the thing is, it's very stupid to call this antisemitism like I, my idol is John Stewart. I voted for Bernie Sanders, Sarah's tax collector, the one who made this incredible documentary about me tickling the Giants, she's a Jew, she's married to an Israeli Jew, we have a good Rao because we know what the right is, They don't have to be associated with the action of the Israeli government, one of your favorite words, Jihad, that's my favorite pastime, it's their favorite pastime. it's my it's my show it's like what's your favorite I'm talking about like when a white shooter does something he thinks he's talking about his whole family and his hobbies like what would happen if we did this like for the Arabs for the Arab terrorists what are their hobbies Jihad You see, you should be a comedian, yeah, you make me feel good.

Okay, Sam Harris, he's done several episodes on Jihad and people should go listen to him even if you don't agree, but the basic idea that he's proposing is that This idea of ​​jihad in its negative connotation, uh, of martyrdom, is something that becomes counterproductive and destructive to the possible future flourishing of the Palestinian people. I don't wake up in the morning and say I want to declare Jihad, think about it, why would someone choose to end his life by taking other people with him and end that life? Their life must be miserable, they must be pushed into it, no one chooses death over her. life voluntarily one of the first suicide bombers in the Palestinian resistance were Christians, we don't talk about that, I guess I would say the presence of a story that you can tell yourself when you're in a really shitty place that you can go to a place much better to sacrifice your own life.

The mere fact that the presence of that history is there is damaging, of course, but here's my problem with Sam Harris and ordinarily people would be free to speak. about the Islamic faith and the nitpicky things that put it in a bad light. I can go and criticize each of the religions. There are Jews there, like Benir, who openly say that spitting on Christians is not hate speech. I mean, you can bring me all kinds of videos of Islamic jihadists saying horrible things on YouTube and I can bring you Jews who live there, I like them, we're going to have the whole world enslaved to us and everyone would love it. being a slave to the Jews, you know, I can use the Talmudic argument that if you tie a man to a tree and he dies of thirst and hunger, you did not kill that man and these are more or less the same arguments as ours.

Killing Palestinians is like killing them. They die alone, you know. So it's the thoroughness of a certain religious narrative that is separated from the political context and what's happening right now is very, very unfair because I can read it if you want. To dive deeply into religious texts, no one will be happy and I can bring things from that bushel and the Torah and things that are horrible, but as you know, this is again a form of distraction. I dare you to talk about Buddhism and Although jism, well you know the people who killed the Muslims in Myanmar were there.

When they were Buddhist, yeah, well, come on, Jaden, okay, I'll find religion, I have to get back to you. I'll have to find, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the flying monster the Church of spaghetti moner as a person who tries not to eat carbohydrates. I'm deeply offended by that, I mean, there are Scientologists, all they do is buy real estate. I think there are books written about what others do. stuff too, so even there, Mormons, sometimes there are some of the nicest people I've ever met, but I'm sure there's darkness there too, oh boy, religion, uh, Mormons are getting soaked, there's something to soak in , what gets soaked, okay, so I don't do it. you know how much you soak basically like you if you get into the woman and you don't move that's not adultery that's not oh interesting so you go and you just say there's a loophole, a loophole, this is what religion, religion has a lagoon yes, yes, and with Muslims we do that all the time, we choose our sins, the things we enjoy, it's just us, you, 72 virgins waiting for us all, maybe if I convert you as a Jew, I'll get you 80 I. no I know you know how you can negotiate but I also have doubts about whether it's a very good deal I'll give you and maybe I'll throw a Camry there I have to be CER it's pretty good what year I don't know 1998, the best year of all time, well , they last a long time, so I'm not sure I want 70 I 72 I.

I'll add five to the mix and see how we feel. Yes, we can if you want to update. If we can?. trial period, but in general, if you just walk away, do you think religion is how is it good for the world how is it harmful if there was no religion humans would have invented religion because think about think think like the first Humanity is like a caveman or whatever and then sees his family members killed and then says what I'm going to be like the gazelle that just ends up and perishes, I need to have it.

I am more important, I think, I think that with the development of Consciousness humans like to think that they are much more precious and important than other animals because now they have intelligence, so my life will not end like this, my death will be even more important . consequences for that there are consequences for what I do and then the primitive man was there in the desert and these were all natural phenomena, they didn't know what to do, they were afraid of MH, so they need to have a shelter, they need to have something to take care of they need have a reason for everything because if there is no reason it is chaos M is chaos it is terrifying it is terrifying it is Terri there is nothing thing there has to be a reason there has to be a reason there has to be a purpose it has to be like a cause something is just I'm not going to just be like dying like a coach getting stepped on and that's like part of it is the ego, the whole world revolves around you in some way is the ego, so religion actually got a lot out of humanity. herself, like me, we like that we are humans and there are many religions that are a collection of stories and those stories based on things that humans did. themselves and attributed it to the gods and there is an aspect of religion where you humble yourself before something that is much bigger than you, so I would say it has a very positive humbling effect.

It would be great if it stopped there, but here is the If you humble yourself so that your ego kicks in and you feel like you are better than someone else who is not humbled in front of God himself, go there, that means I will have all that train I can use because, now what? It means being humble. I am divine, yes, but I am. I am much more humble than you. H, but you don't, so you see how they like oxymore. I'm humble and I'm giving up, but at the same time I'm better than you and I have more rights, isn't that crazy?

Yes, it's beautiful, it's crazy. I mean, look, look, look, like Muslims, Christians and Jews, and everyone, okay, Muslims, we give up. I'm talking about the extremes, I mean people like people like I surrender to God, well keep it that way, yeah if you go there I surrender to God, that meansJews, I'm sure, I'm sure I don't want my money to be given to some Muslim countries that kill other Muslims, I'm sure, but that's not the point, what kind of power do we have? Besides speaking, what we have left is freedom of speech and now when you speak, they call you anti-Semitic, you see why I'm angry, but I still want to say that America remains quite strong despite the criticism on the front. of freedom of speech, uh, but if you look at the index of freedom of the press, freedom of speech, uh, the United States is not at the top, it is not and that is why, for example, it is very unpleasant for me to see that the Western media, the Western press that used to be the beacons of freedom now use them as spokespersons and it's funny how in the New York Times Nixon got angry in the New York Times in 1971 when they found leaks about him lying about the war in Vietnam from the beginning M and now hired plumbers. you know the special unit with the order to go in and find the leaks, this was Watergate basically because I was angry to see who leaked that, instead of fixing the problem, now the New York Times published this story about the breach which was a hoax that was written by Anna Schwarz, someone who has no experience and now when it was leaked, instead of being corrected, they went in and did their own investigation to see who leaked the New York Times in 2003 and became W Bush's mouthpiece of weapons of mass destruction. and now as an American I see the New York Times becoming a mouthpiece for a foreign country, why do you do that?

One of the things that is really difficult to know is where to find the truth. It seems like both sides use propaganda and both sides lie a lot, but both sides, both in Israel and in your friend Pro Palestine pro Israel, there are a lot of lies, I know, but there is a lot of inequality, man, you say yes, there are a lot of people on the Internet, but who has the main media? on the side of yes, but you know, thanks to toia, I am yes, thank God for social media because now they are individuals, they are people, yes, they are people, you are comparing the BBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post , what a world street joker with only people with a Tik.

Tok account, yes, in your opinion, who has more power now? It's actually very, very fascinating to see the little man having that power over the media disproportionately, so they like this, it's my problem, but you can't call people with Tik Tok propagandists. while people are paid to give you the news and they deliberately lie to you well yes I can, they are both propagandists well yes but the mechanism and intentions are different because this is what I would rather have. the tiktok guy that the tiktok guy is a tiktok guy, okay, but if they tell the New York Times that they are exposed to lying and then they get this report that is like a disgrace and you just put the title and you don't talk about it it's like If it was okay with CNN and Jake Tapper and all those people like to spread rape accusations for years, they didn't do it.

I don't even want them to refute them. I want them to do it. brings up the Israeli reports that say it didn't happen, the Israeli media didn't even bother once, it's so balanced, that's not it, that's why the Tik Tok people and why they have to take matters into their own hands, yeah , but the problem with people on Tik Tok is the drugs, dopam and Rush to get many likes so instead of talking about the death of civilians they will talk about decapitated babies or the equivalent of them, in reality they are going to make up stories because the made up stories are going to be more viral and now we are in this sea in this pile of lies and there are a lot of people who actually expose those lies on Tik Tok, so you have both, yes, you have both and it's kind of like the democracy of the social media, as we always call it, but if you have the street media, that's Legacy Media CNN BBC New York Times, news, all those people and they're spreading lies and not even doing their journalistic work to at l

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bring to the other side , yes, that's problematic and that's worse, you're supposed to be a journalist, yes, it's supposed to be a report, a report, you know, a report, yes, but you know, I see this as a catalyst. inspiration for the citizen journalist to rise up this is what you're doing oh this yes this is what you're doing no this is what you're doing because you take a deep dive this is like something unfiltered No, the long form, the long form, it's going to save us, uh, I see why you hate Tik Tok like a damine race, you know, stupid Tik, hours later I saw the resentment on your face.

I can't, I can't look away because like those like 30 seconds make 4 hours I mean they both have a place both are exciting and you know but I can't it's very dangerous like you can't look away and almost never maybe I'm doing it wrong but I almost never feel better after using Tik Tok makx two of us I can't I can't I can't I have a team by the way I give my my my my passport to like a team I don't even go there because I went once in a dark night very late at night I went to Tik Tok and it was like 2 hours what yes what I said no no no no no this is dangerous I'm I'm I'm I'm like an Instagram and Facebook Guy, I don't need that even there and barely I get off Twitter, I mean, like X, no, I can't, X is a group session, I can't so you don't check it at all you try not to check it at all it's very I don't I don't I don't I don't I can't I can't I can't just like I post something and I post ghosts uh so you're doing comedy here in the States United at this moment.

Yes, Joe Rogan has the comedy Mothership, which is an amazing club. Have you considered doing that club? I would love to. I mean, you know Joe, of course, no, who would make a new Joe? I mean, I feel like it's a small world comedy, so no, I think Joe Joe's story was like, uh, what he did and everything he did. in the UFC and his podcast and it's very impressive the fact that he's there and he brings all those people, whether it's in comedy or on his podcast, it's very impressive and this is what the media is all about.

The internet is about to give you experiences of things that you may never experience MH and that's very important, I mean, you do it with people like you get into their brains, mhm, he takes people and they take their experiences and and and their lives and His story is very interesting and this is the beauty of that art form because you have all these experiences at the tip of your hands and it is there for you to learn from what you know and what he is doing. when he moved to Texas and we did the comedy Mothership, anyone who wanted to push comedy, that's the hardest art form and the most demanding, and the fact that you do that and you're not even making money from it, but he did it. does. because of his passion that's enough yeah he's the one who really believes in creating this place where comedians can be really free and one of the cool things about mother comedy is that the comedian is the king yeah you got us what to please I have to bow down to him because you know the comedian that came there came after like eating dying out there if you're basically you're a saint.

I have eaten for many years. I have eaten now. I'll give you, ah, it's great. You've already told me what you think about the state of politics in the United States, but now tell me what you really think. What do you think of the Trump versus Biden election? How do we end up here? I don't know, I mean. I like the fact that you have two people over 90, yeah I think it's over 100, but okay, all combined, like 170, it's so sad, it's so sad that this is what we can produce as a society. like a demagogue and a sleepy Joe I just he too he's not there man he's gone he's gone I mean could you know how when old people could be like a danger to themselves it's a danger to the whole world I want say, like for everyone world like if if if if if an older person died who would like to, you know, have a hip replacement, we may need them on a new planet because of a decision, but it's not just it's not whatever, um, what are they when I?

I came here listen, I'm, I'm, I'm a Democrat. I always liked it and I told you how. I vote for Bernie Sanders. I vote for Bernie Sanders. I. I like it. I supported him like in 2016, but I couldn't vote then and of course I'm a big fan of Obama and uh. one of my is like he was the first muslim president, but he killed muslims, that's the things that muslims do, but anyway I love that line, uh and uh, it's just that I think the whole idea is that my Surprise is that I told them about something like that. what Biden said about me being a Zionist, okay we are Zionists but Jews aren't safe anywhere but friends what the hell are you saying and if you don't care about me and you don't care about my misery, Why would I care if you win or lose?

You know, and I have a joke that I told people, like why would even Biden listen to us? It just raised $145 million in California alone from pro-Israel groups. I mean, what can we do? The Arabs who work in the Vape business tell him it's like we can't compete with that, I mean, practically, I mean, it's like life is unfair, the guy is a politician, he needs bills to pay, he needs a campaign To do it, you need money. will go to the people who will give him money Joe Biden is the highest paid politician in the Israeli lobbies 4.6 million dollars over the years, yes, but I also believe in great leaders who go against all that, but unfortunately you know that Bernie Sanders was like that Bernie Sanders yes, but also the age.

I don't want to be the age, of course, no, no, but even with something like that because I remember listening to Bernie Sanders 20 years ago on the Tom Hartman show and I don't want to say anything against Bernie, but like. he was smarter then of course there's a thing with age of course not I think I'm a big fan of putting limits on your working years because you don't want to have a Mitch McConell moment every once in a while because now everything is like what is this? It's not like a scare at home, it's just unfair, it's unfair and the whole idea that you have an unlimited limit is like you have a limit for the president but you don't have a limit for people in Congress and senators, that's what you mean with this is basically you can come in and be in government forever and you know that the longer you can be, the more corrupt you will become, yeah, that and that's very worrying for Americans, everyone, everyone becomes corrupt afterwards, I mean , that's why two terms is a good limit for everyone, yeah, and you know, maybe half a term for Egyptian years, well, you know our half term is 15 years, one quarter, you should go back and run for uh. for the position there, oh my God, no, no, there is a curse in Egyptian, uh, outside the Egyptian presidency, no, no one, no one comes there like they are dead or in jail, yeah, it's not the most job attractive, they could make a statue of you, although they make you look good. after my death I look very good dead in a statue uh yes, when you look uh what happened to naali since you really thought about this in Egypt what happened to navali in Russia what do you think about that yes, but what happened to inali in Russia no It's something new in Russia, I mean, Putin has this whole history of poisoning and murdering people and it's like he's me.

I would have to give credit to Sude to Putin, it's like bringing us the essence of the Middle Ages, the Middle Ages is like you know, we know that basically Putin is the living example of what would happen if Game of Thrones were a reality it's like death by poison like a plane explosion it's like it mysteriously disappears it's like that it's very dark but it's like wow it's like it's it's it's it's a it's a it's a TV show maybe that's what draws us to that part of the world It's that this game of uh power of geopolitics is so on display, yes, of war, no, but the same thing happens in the west, but I'm behind closed doors, no, it's open, it's not that pronounced, you know, it's like oops, uh, yeah, it's like. if we just like it I think because the West is more advanced like in movies and cinemas we direct it better yes I think I think the result is like the way you said the scene like scene and scene, that's why at the People like to land on the moon and they say: I understand, but you know we're not back, there's the floor, uh, it's okay if we zoom in.

Do you think there will always be war in the world, there will always be suffering? Yes, yes, but this is what I don't think about for a long time. I don't think that will happen for a long time. Wait a minute, yes, yes, because this is what humanity is destined for. to have War especially there will be War but something happened in the last 50 years we have had now we have much more lethal weapons MH the problem is the beginning it is like swords against swords horses Cavalry like cannons catapults me CH missiles but now you eat stop as you know, with Just pressing a button can wipe out the entire planet, yes, and this is the problem.

The wars will continue. The problem is when will be the tipping point where we truly destroy ourselves and that's it. Now it is easy to destroy ourselves, the amount ofweapons and the quality of the weapons that we have are designed to kill more effectively, more, more, more, it's just, it's crazy, it's like we can create our own destruction in ourselves and I and I think that we are not so far from it, just look at nuclear weapons. The fascinating thing about nuclear weapons, as I've recently learned, is that few people are involved in an all-out nuclear war that kills basically everyone, yeah, well, over three billion people. immediately and the consequences of nuclear winter are unbearable, but all it takes is for a president to be able to do it, so it could even be a false alarm, a misunderstanding like what happened in the Kuba missile crisis, but again and now there are more nations. they're primed and ready to launch, yeah I don't know, and you have some kind of medium and 24 hours that makes you like on Edge all the time, that's crazy, there's a dark angle to this where there are certain members The media that would somewhat enjoy the prospect of nuclear war, let's get as close to it as possible.

You have another factor that will contribute to that religion and remember how radical Islamists talk about the end times. and whatever, but since most Islamic people don't have that much of a power problem, it's that the Christian Zionists are now on top of the world and the United States has been pushing for that kind of conflict to escalate, listen to Sarah Palin as if God loved us. here like a car Find all the new disadvantages of the dispensationalist Reagan there is an amazing book called how to force the hands of the gods oh beautiful book I read it it's like it was published in 1998 but it still matters today the whole idea about especially Christian Zionists who love Israel, but they hate the Jews, they are anti-Semitic, but they love Israel for its role.

This is all basically formed because of Scoffield's interpretation of the Bible and how they talk about the end times, Armageddon, and then the last great planet. Earth and then we leave Sirius behind and all that is like we are heading towards Armageddon and the problem is that Islam has people who believe in the end of times and then we have Christians who believe in the end of times and then. you have Israel happy that those people are using it for the end times and then the whole idea that they are pushing so many weapons and troops and people into the Middle East to be there for the nuclear Holocaust and John, one of the pastors , speaks. about that about the sulfur stones and that it's going to be a nuclear Holocaust all those people it's crazy how people despise life so much that they want death so now everyone would have these Revelations, but these Revelations mean nothing if they don't have them .

I don't have an effective weapon to make this happen and this is the craziest thing and I'm worried that the end will be because of someone who wants to meet God a little sooner, uh, uh, someone who is in a real hurry, mhm. Well, I have good news for you. Maybe we will become a multiplanetary species. Maybe Ellen Musk will guide us and guide us out into space. Maybe he is one of them. He is a secret lizard. I asked you to be offline so you wouldn't mention it to me. The lizard people there are like a whole town that believes in lizard people, it's crazy.

In fact, I have to be honest. I haven't fully researched lizard people. I probably should, you should, yeah, well, maybe I'm afraid of the truth. Off the top of my head, I mean what, let's say, let's say you're wrong about the end of the world and everything turns out great and Humanity flourishes, why would that happen? What gives you hope for that trajectory for Humanity? people on Tik Tok that you don't like uh, I, yeah, there's a lot of things like that, you know, after saying this, people keep sending you Tik Tok videos, these younger people are this woman showing her boobs, that woman who will save we, that's cool, bosome, thanks, no, I think there's a lot of you know, remember like the joke that said we thought when we get the Internet we'll have to be more, you know, more informed and now we. watching twerking videos and that's true but on the other hand the fact that you have availability of information I'm learning a lot and there are people who are using that platform so it's not the majority because you know it's not very interesting. and exciting, but I think there could be a tipping point where there will be enough people who will be aware and maybe do something collectively to give power back to the little guy and maybe it sounds very naive, maybe, but we don't.

We know we don't know because we've already seen Legacy Media and Legacy politicians shake in recent months, they're getting nervous, they're getting nervous because people are calling them and those people were hiding behind their desk. behind in their offices and not like they don't have to be held accountable for that, but like people are now criticizing them and it's not going to happen like this year or next year, but I think it's something. What advice would you give to those young people? I will never do it. Give advice to those people, get off Tik Tok. I know I never will.

I will never do it because their contributions are different from mine. Yes, but there's one thing I learned when people saw me. Did the revolution in Egypt fail? Did people come back? I like to listen, the revolution is not an event, it is not that we go to the government, it is not a revolution. A revolution is a process, it is a very long process and perhaps I am referring to the pro of that process as much as we are not. like what happened in the Arab world, but the people there, the awareness of what happened and the discussions that have been opened, who did not even imagine what happened in the Middle East, is happening and perhaps the beginning of any hope The change is that people start to talk, talking about things that they were not allowed to talk about, such as Israel, the revolution continues, ah yes, uh, bossome, you are a beautiful human being, it is truly a pleasure and an honor to know you.

I can simply feel the love that you have. radiates from you I hope to see you perform live I hope to see you many more times thank you very much for being who you are thank you very much and I would love to invite you to my new special el islami Bim that should be the title of your autobi thank you very much brother thank you for listening to this conversation with bosam Yousef to support this podcast please check out our sponsors in the description and now let me leave you with some words from John Stewart The The press can bring this magnifying glass closer to our problems and bring them to the Focus Illuminating topics here so that they are not seen or they can use that magnifying glass to set the ants on fire and then maybe host a week of shows about the sudden, unexpected and dangerous epidemic of burning ants if it amplifies everything we hear nothing thanks for listening and we hope to see you next time