Oil Consumption Update - 2019 Ford F150 5.0L

How are the eliminators doing? Today we are going to do an

update

video on my

2019

Ford F-150 oil

consumption

problem. We ended up solving it and the truck is no longer using oil, so we will discuss that in today's video, let's get right into it, like this which today we will discuss the recent TSB I did on this truck here and a TSB is known as a technical service bulletin. It's basically a job that your dealership does. What we are going to do now will not be part of a recall process, but will be covered by warranty.

Now many guys were complaining that their five liter engines in their 2018,

2019

and some 2020 models were now burning oil even though the engine was technically burning oil, the oil burning was a byproduct or rather the end result of two separate problems that were actually causing what is technically known as oil

consumption

, so the engine was consuming oil and the end result was that the oil was burning. in the combustion chambers, so I'm going to explain two of those problems and how Ford ended up fixing them, so the tsb that I did on this truck is known as 19-2365 tsb and this is known in the Ford world as fuel consumption. oil is fixed on these 5 liter v8 engines now on that 19-2365 tsb oil consumption there will basically be two major things they will fix, one of them is installing a longer dipstick, believe it or not, and we are going to get to That, the next thing is going to be reprogramming the PCM, which is the powertrain control module, so that the throttle plate inside the throttle body here doesn't close as much when decelerating and we're going to Let's get to that next, but first thing We'll do is focus on the dipstick, so a lot of guys couldn't understand why Ford would install a longer dipstick.

Basically, a lot of people thought Ford wanted to put in more oil. in the engine, but there was a big problem with oil consumption and it all came down to some dipsticks that came from the factory, so you have to imagine that a dipstick goes down to the bottom end of the engine and that will determine the height of the capacity of oil in your engine, now these five liters or mine specifically, which is a 2019, are supposed to require 8.8 quarts of 5w20 synthetic or semi-synthetic oil. Now you could round that up to 9 quarts, it won't be a big deal, so let's say it's about nine quarts of oil, what was happening is that when a service technician at any oil change location will follow what the manufacturer recommends to get the oil closer to where the dipstick should be, then they will pull Take out the dipstick, clean it, put it back in, take it out again and check it, and if they are low they will add a little oil until the oil starts to rise at those marks , that's what they are. called and depending on the length of your dipstick, that capacity could change, so with people who were having oil consumption problems, what Ford engineers noticed was that some of the dipsticks on some of these trucks were actually shorter than others when they made a In comparison, now you have to understand that a shorter dipstick will be higher in the crankcase so you will have to fill the lower end with more oil and that will basically cause the first part of the problem of oil consumption.

The technicians at these four dealerships and virtually everywhere else are unknowingly overfilling these engines with oil, so instead of the 8.8 or nine quarts of oil, I heard that some of these five-liter engines were receiving 10 or even 11 quarts of oil. now that inadequate dipstick length was just one of the problems, the second problem, let's discuss the throttle body right here, now inside this throttle body will be the throttle plate, as well as the throttle valve in the carburetor of a small engine when it opens and allows more air to enter the engine. Many of you who have driven manual cars before will be familiar with engine braking when you downshift the engine instead of braking, you are using the engine to slow the vehicle. what is known as engine braking, so one of the problems that Ford engineers actually encountered was that the throttle plate would close too much when decelerating on these engines, creating a vacuum at the top end of the engine to so you can see where I am.

I'm going with this, we have an engine that is now too full of oil and also creates more vacuum than it should at the top and in these engines we have what is known as a pcv system. This is positive crankcase ventilation, the work of this PCB. The system is to vent that positive pressure from the crankcase to the intake manifold. Now this engine is a V8, it has eight cylinders, but it's essentially the same as any internal combustion engine, like a lawnmower, it needs to vent that pressure. Now it does this through a PCV valve. which is that piece of brown plastic over there and that valve over there is essentially a one way check valve so it has a little piece of plastic and a spring that just allows the positive crankcase pressure to come out but not come back in now.

In the case of this engine I have installed the JLT 3.0 oil separator aka oil catcher, let's get into that but if your engine doesn't have this and it's a replacement part it doesn't come. From the factory you would normally have a tube which is what we have here, that goes from the PCV valve and goes back to this port here that goes to the intake manifold so that engines filled with oil, the throttle plate closes. too much when decelerating, creating the top end. vacuum which then sucks that oil through the PCB system back to the intake manifold.

Now, at this point, the engine hasn't burned that oil yet, but that oil will go through all the intake valves into the cylinders and be gone. burned during the combustion process, so one of the main benefits of having a catch pan or oil separator is that you are basically creating an area where some of that oil vapor can be trapped by directing it between your pcv system, as well I'm trapping some oil and I'm going to show you how much oil this thing traps. It's not much, but in the installation video I can link at the top right of your screen if you want to see it.

A lot of guys were saying there's no need for a catch can on a naturally aspirated engine so it's just an engine that doesn't have any forced induction like a supercharger or turbocharger and although a catch can will collect a lot more oil. On a turbocharged engine, something that has forced induction is because when you're forcing that air into the intake manifold, you're creating more suction here at the intake, you're also increasing the positive pressure inside your cylinder and some of that pressurized air . it's going to bypass the piston rings and go to the crankcase so you're going to have more pressure in the crankcase so you're going to get more suction on this tube here and you're going to get more pressure out on this port here so again an oil The catch can on an engine that has forced induction will be highly recommended, however on my engine that is naturally aspirated, I showed you guys in an

update

video that I can also link this oil catch can here gets about one to two ounces at each oil change interval.

And I'll get to my oil change intervals in a moment, but I just wanted to go over that PCV system and explain what was going on, so again a lot of guys were complaining about these engines burning oil, but that was the byproduct of the whole system. and these two issues that were causing that excessive amount of oil to recirculate, so tsb's first step was they went ahead and installed a longer dipstick that I'll show you in a moment, basically it reaches further into the crank. In this case, you are now putting the correct capacity of oil into the engine.

That was step one. Step two was a reprogramming of the PCM, which is the powertrain control module, so what they did was limit the amount of throttle plate inside the throttle body. here it could close on deceleration and that dramatically reduced the amount of vacuum here at the top end so now we have less oil in the engine, but now it's the right amount and we have less vacuum here so it's creating less suction through your PCV system. and the 19-2365 tsb absolutely 100 solved my oil consumption issues I was having on this 2019 5 liter v8 so I got a shop towel here and already pulled out and cleaned the dipstick which the truck was also on.

A few moments to let the oil settle back into the engine, but without cutting or editing, I wanted to show you the oil level here in my truck to see if I can take a photo right there so you can see it. The oil is just below, slightly below the full line on that hash mark, so I'll try to get a better shot here. I twist the dipstick but basically the oil level is right there so before the dipstick was much shorter than they were. What I've done is increased the reach between these two holes by a quarter, so now you have an extra quarter of reach.

In my update video I made, I think my truck had about 5000 miles on it when I checked my oil catch, can I just? I had a couple of ounces, but when I went ahead and checked my dipstick, I noticed my truck was about a quart every thousand miles, so I went back to the shorter dipstick if the incorrect dipstick length created, since You know this problem where I was overfilling the engine capacity by one liter, so what was happening is that my engine wasn't actually losing oil, it was consuming excessive oil, so I was putting in an extra liter of oil every thousand. miles and the engine was sucking that oil through the pcv system into the intake manifold and I basically thought, along with all the other Ford F-150 owners who had the 5 liter v8, we all thought this was a big problem in the one where you know we were losing a liter of oil every thousand kilometers.

Now I explained it to you. Guys I have the maximum 10 year warranty on this truck which covers me for 10 years or a total of 200,000 kilometers so I really didn't have any long term concerns about this truck because over the course of 10 years if anything It happens that they are going to go ahead and cover it under warranty, but what I did to start the tsb process was simply take a photo of the dipstick and the service manager at my dealership saw that there was little oil on said dipstick. I said I was filling the truck with a liter of oil every thousand kilometers and at 5,000 kilometers I took this truck for that tsb, they kept going and you know, they did the job and I haven't had any problems since the truck came out fine.

It now has about 8,600 kilometers. I haven't really driven it much in the past year because of all this lockdown. I also work from home, so I don't drive long distances to work every day, but you guys just go for it. See on this truck the tsb solved the problem and as I get closer to the jlt 3.0 oil separator I'm just going to pull out the catch can here so you can see how much oil it's collecting just to show that it is. In fact, the work you are going to see there is not much, it is definitely less than an ounce.

You can see it looks a little brown and milky and that's because of the moisture in it, so if I were to let it sit. all the water moisture in there will evaporate and then just oil will be left and I got a couple comments on the installation video and also on the update video asking if it was normal for the oil to look like that. color, a lot of guys think something is wrong with their engine, so I just want to point out that if you don't run the engine for a long period of time to get it really hot and you make a lot of short trips, then you start your truck, drive to the store and then you come home, your engine will have a little bit of excess moisture that it won't be able to burn off, whereas if you were driving a long distance to work and if you're really warming up your engine, your engine will burn off that moisture naturally and it won't end up in your PCB system, so this is completely normal for someone like me who takes short trips regularly and now the oil looks a little dark. dipstick and that's because my oil life is currently about 35.

You can see it on the infographic on your screen, so this engine and this truck tracks oil life through the intelligent Ford oil life monitoring and this system tracks not only the mileage on the engine, but also a variety of things, including temperature, you know, barometric pressure, the load you put on the engine, the mode in that you drive the engine, because a lot of guys are a little confused that they think everyone should change their oil right away. At the same time, whenthat's not true, there could be an old couple that has an F-150 with a 5 liter V8 engine and maybe they only make one or two trips a week to shop, maybe they go to church, so just driving it like a normal passenger vehicle, while you might have someone like me who commonly drives my truck in sport mode, revs the truck in sport mode, he'll always drive in a couple of gears lower, so he'll have the engine. running at higher rpm also towing with this truck so I'm putting a heavier load on this truck so in the same 10,000 mile range on both trucks the oil life expectancy would be significantly different and you can see that from 5000km to about 8600km this is what my oil looks like now besides finishing the 19-2365 tsb I wanted to point out that there was something else you could do to see if you can fix this problem without having the tsb on yes it is done and I mentioned it in my jlt 3.0 upgrade video and that was upgrading your PCV valve right there so I will put an infographic on the screen.

Basically, the stock OEM PCV valve is a straight through-hole design, so it doesn't really restrict much of the positive crankcase pressure passing through it. Now, one of the things that Ford engineers noticed when they were trying to fix this oil consumption issue was that they could remove a PCV valve from a 2015-up Mustang GT that also had the 5-liter V8 and they could install it. on these trucks and if you notice in the infographic, the pcv valve on the right has a cross section now, this somewhat restricts the positive crankcase pressure going through the pcv system and i have heard that for five years.

Dollar or seven dollars here in Canada, you can install that PCV valve on the passenger side of the truck and some guys have said it solved the problem. That's one of the things I tried first and unfortunately it didn't solve my problem. that's why i wanted to make this video to cover, you know, talk about the tsb because a couple of guys were asking me, you know, if that pcv valve swap is worth trying and I said it's because, you know, it was hard for me. I think seven dollars, it was a five dollar part, a couple of dollars for shipping, you know, and taxes, and I put it in.

I ran the truck for a while and didn't notice any difference so I had to do the tsb. However, the reasons you want to try changing the PCV valve first before doing the tsb is because since the tsb was done on my engine, I noticed that I am getting less fuel economy on this engine, so it is burning more fuel. worse on gas and that's because the throttle body doesn't close as much, so you can imagine the revs won't drop as quickly, meaning it will take a little longer for the engine to drop those revs. Which means your engine is going to burn more fuel, so that's one of the trade-offs of the TSB.

However, as you saw, the engine doesn't consume oil, so the oil consumption has been fixed 100 percent and, like I said, I'm still getting an ounce or two out at each oil change interval, and in this truck I'm currently changing the oil at 3,000 mile intervals, which believe it or not is about 3,300 miles, which is pretty frequent, but again, why? I drive my truck, you know, I drive it a little harder than most people, you know? I changed, you know, more frequently and this engine shouldn't have any problems and then I combined it with the jlt 3.0 oil separator and now I'm preventing about an ounce or two of oil from burning in the combustion chamber every five thousand miles , so for someone like me who is going to have this truck for 10 years, you know, spending 180 on a can of oil was definitely something I wanted to do and as a little bonus, I'm working on the valves on this tecumseh hms k80 engine which is on this john deere trs 26 snow blower so you're going to want to keep an eye on the channel because that video is coming out next week and if you remember the oil catch can be upgraded I had this glass jar here and we've been throwing all the stuff out that my can has been trapping in this jar and you can see here that you know it's not much, but again you know that over the course of 10 years that's definitely going to add up, so I mean, you could assume you know. let's say 10,000 you know double that 20 30 40 and the next thing you know this jar is going to fill up and I just wanted to show you that an oil separator on a naturally aspirated engine is not that crazy and like I said for 180 bucks , it gives me peace of mind knowing that all this oil vapor is not going to get into my cylinders and burn and cover the valves and everything you know, I was talking about valves in the video that I'm going to watch.

I'll show it to you next week, so again stay tuned for that. Well, that will be all for today's video, as you guys saw, we have the oil consumption problem on this 2019 5 liter v8 completely resolved, there is no oil consumption, no oil burning, so my engine does not It will carbonize due to excess oil consumption. If you enjoyed the video, consider giving me a thumbs up. They know it really helps me. You can click here to subscribe and click here to see one of my. I upload older videos every week, so be sure to stop by next week, check out the channel for new content, and as always guys, thanks for watching.