Poilievre very clear on carbon pricing

Well, after a busy week at Auto with Middle East debates and no-confidence motions, Conservative leader Pi PV joins us live in the studio, let's talk more about that and e

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thing that's happening in Ottawa and we'll have a little from GTA Focus too, Mr. Paul, welcome to the CP24 breakfast this morning with you, so let's talk about you, the last few days in Ottawa, the confidence motion, uh, you were trying to beat the

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tax, we know you want to increase The tax. increase the increase and reduce the tax, uh, we know that's your plan here, uh, and that hasn't quite worked out in Ottawa in the last few days, but what would a conservative environmental plan look like?

We know what you don't want in terms of the

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tax, but what do you want to see to deal with climate change? Well we want to eliminate the tax because it doesn't work, after eight years of Trudeau e

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thing costs more, work doesn't pay, housing costs have doubled and now he wants to hit us with April Fools' Day jokes about his tax to 23% carbon as part of a plan to quadruple the tax that is going to push, is going to kill jobs, is going to force older people to choose between eating and heating, and uh, then we We move to a motion of distrust to force a carbon tax election so Canadians can decide.

We believe that reducing the cost of alternatives is better than increasing the cost of traditional energy. We still need, we need green, green light, green projects like nu

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energy, hydroelectricity, tides. carbon capture and storage by wave energy, so Canadians have an abundant supply of affordable, emissions-free electricity and energy. So again here is the choice: do you want to increase the cost of traditional energy that we still need, like G gas and home heating, or do we want to reduce the cost of low emissions alternatives and I believe the latter, that is common sense. I can certainly see politically what you are trying to do and it seems that the polls are on your side in terms of the unpopularity of the carbon tax or carbon rebate as it has recently been renamed and there are also seven prime ministers from across the political spectrum in this country that they are aligned against the liberals, something of a flagship proposal or policy as it stands.

However, I want to know if you were the Prime Minister and you had seven prime ministers across the country lining up against something you were pushing, what would you do? It is increasing the cost of food, for example, when you tax the farmer who produces the food and the trucker who ships the food, the grocer who sells the food, you tax everyone who buys the food and that is why 2 millions of people are lining up at food banks across the country 32% of food banks or charities are turning Canadians away because they don't have the resources to feed them.

We now have a dumpster diving network that includes 8,000 Canadians who have joined a Facebook group to learn how to jump. a trash can to take out the food these are things the police had to be called there was almost a riot at a food bank in Montreal last week uh because the food ran out people were hungry um this would have been unimaginable before Justin Trudeau but after eight years of doubling housing costs and raising food prices, you have given Canadians a pittance, it's not worth the cost, it's not worth the crime, it's not worth the corruption, we need a conservative government with common sense and if you were in government, You hear if seven premiers opposed your if seven Premier Well, seven Premiers are not going to have to tell me to ask for the tax.

I will reduce the tax with or without seven Premiers. My common sense plan is to reduce the tax. Build the houses. fix the budget stop crime uh and uh the next election will be on the carbon tax it will be a gigantic referendum on whether you want a 61 cent less carbon tax or whether you want to ask that the tax bring home lower prices Okay, let's talk of Toronto here because of course Toronto is whatever you want it to be or not and some people don't like it, but Toronto seems to be the economy that moves a lot of this country here.

This city has been looking for a new agreement. from the federal government and seems to go cap in hand to Ottawa quite frequently. I'm sure there are a lot of people right now looking at people who could potentially be voters for you in the next election, perhaps wondering what you think about the City of Toronto needing a new or specific special funding plan that you can think of , you know, a few weeks ago we had refugees sleeping on the streets in a shelter over here, new arrivals to this country, welcome to the country, but they had nothing when they got here and it kind of fell to the city of Toronto, what would you do? through the city of Toronto?

Do you think the city needs a new or special financial arrangement? Well, after 8 years of Trudeau, uh, Toronto went bankrupt after he promised so much and Toronto didn't choose anything else. Liberals, what did they get in return? What do they have, people lined up, one in 10 Torontonians is at a food bank every month, one in 10, we have refugees, refugees invited by the federal government, sleeping on the street, Thank you very much, Justin Trudeau, for that. Housing costs have doubled after 8 years of Trudeau. It now takes the average family a quarter of a century 25 years to save for a down payment.

In Toronto you used to pay off a full mortgage in 25 years before Justin Trudeau, so my common sense. The plan would do a number of things: one, we're going to fix the broken immigration system so we get the numbers we can absorb, two, we're going to tie in the number of federal dollars that Toronto and all cities receive. to the number of homes they allow to be built. The bureaucracy in the city council is blocking the construction of housing. I want to encourage faster housing construction. I will demand that Toronto and all major cities allow 15% more housing construction per year as a federal condition. funding if they don't meet it they will lose their money if they exceed the goal they will get a bonus I will require that all federally funded transit stations be surrounded by high-rise apartments so that young people and seniors can live next to the bus or off the train, we're going to sell 6,000 federal buildings, thousands of acres of federal land to build, build, build, we want them to be in safe neighborhoods, so we're going to end catch and release, and we're going to bring in jail, no bail, jail, no bail, we are going to provide treatment and recovery, no, uh, free drugs, uh and uh, we are also going to stop going after law-abiding hunters and sport shooters, instead they go after real criminals with guns sealing the border to prevent criminals from coming in, bringing drugs and guns and taking our cars, let's talk about housing because a lot of that response was specific to housing and yesterday Premier Doug Ford, his sort of provincial federal cousin, if you will. he slammed the door on the idea of ​​building quads in and around the city of Toronto.

Current federal housing minister Sean Fraser pooped on Twitter saying: you know you've missed an opportunity to build housing and you want to see more housing built, what do you think? From that decision, should quadruples be allowed in the city of Toronto to help bring more people to the city? Well, there are more than quads. I'm looking out the window right now, neighbor in urban areas type. I think we need more. We need to build and we need to build. I'm not going to prescribe exactly how it's done, what I'm going to do is pay for results, so right now the federal government is sending big checks to municipalities every year. that they use to build their bureaucracies and block housing construction. uh Toronto is one of the worst city councils, it's terrible here um for a horrible house like incredibly bad um almost as bad as Vancouver, which is the worst, so my policy is very simple I'm going to tell Toronto City Council: if you want federal money, you will have to get out of the way and let the builders build and you have to allow 15% more housing per year or you will lose federal money if you exceed the goal, you will get a bonus.

Real estate agents are paid by the number of homes they sell. To the builders for the amount they build. I want municipalities to be paid for the amount of housing they allow. They pay for results. They get results. And that's what I'll do. sort of a carrot rather than a stick, sounds like a bit of both, yeah I guess it's a bit of both, across the GTA you've got a new Tory MP and Jam Gavan, he's just gone to Durham, a Tory seat For the person, of course. you replaced Aeron without any tools in your acceptance speech a few weeks ago.

It was right after his former boss Doug Ford, the PC leader here. I wonder what your reaction was to that and if you've spoken to your candidate or your party member or Prime Minister Ford about that because it seemed to ruffle some feathers the idea that he sort of went after his former boss, no, no. I have done. My focus has been on eliminating the taxes, building the houses, fixing the budget, stopping the In fact, we have a federal budget ahead of us and Justin Trudeau has doubled our national debt and printed $600 billion in cash. It's no wonder we have such terrible inflation and high interest rates, so our and Jamil's main focus will be on limiting government.

Cut spending to get rid of these deficits so we can lower inflation and interest rates, uh, uh, so I'm going to focus on my Common Sense plan and ignore the political noise on the political side of things, how would you characterize their relation? with Premier Ford, no, we don't see you two together as much, he's the premier of Ontario, I'm the next prime minister of Canada, so I'll work with all the premiers in my common. Sense planned act the tax build the houses fix the budget stop the crime uh and um it doesn't matter who you are or what your party color is if you share those priorities the tax build the houses fix the budget stop the crime let's bring it home and also asked one more quick question here, talking about building trans houses or houses around Transit buildings around Transit that kind of thing here uh Transit is of course a big problem in Toronto and the TTC lost $124 million to tax evasion the Fair last year. year, what do you think about more federal funding for the TTC, a system and service that always seems desperate for cash?

Now we simply cannot continue to pay for failure. This idea every time some level of government makes a mistake by saying they should get more. Taxpayer money will run out when I am Prime Minister. Municipal funding will be based on how houses are built, so if the City of Toronto or any other city wants more federal money, they will have a very simple formula to do it. and let builders build more homes because right now we have the fewest homes per capita of all the G7 countries, even though we spend by far the most of our economy on home building and we have, by far the most land to build on in what is the problem of the bureaucratic gatekeepers who block it.

I'm paying cities to get out of the way and let builders build because I'm not going to accept the idea that an entire generation of young people has to give up having home-owning children to build home equity and have a good life, that is the Canadian dream we took for granted before Trudeau and it is a dream we will restore when he is prime minister. Pier Pa, thank you for joining us for the CP24 morning breakfast in Toronto. Thank you so much.