The Spiritual Battle For Our Humanity: Transhumanism, DNA, AI & Our Forgotten Past | Gregg Braden

there is a

battle

for our own

humanity

sets the context for every event that is unfolding in our world there is something deep within each of us so powerful so precious that nations will go to war with other nations to keep us distracted there is a movement to replace our bodies with synthetic chemicals and blood sensors. Under the skin, computer chips in the brain, artificial intelligence, it robs us of our ability to access this part of us, we are about to surrender our

humanity

to technology before we know what. It means being fully human and we are more than we have been led to believe, so I want to make it very clear that evolution is a fact, it falls apart when it comes to humans.

Something happened. Scientists now know, but they don't know what. What they have to do with what they have discovered and the way it happened is that by crossing traditional boundaries we gain new wisdom that takes us beyond the boxes we owe ourselves to discover who we are and what it means to be human before . We give it away forever, but here's the beauty. Hello everyone, welcome to get to know yourself today. We have the pleasure, honor, and privilege of sitting down with a five-time New York Times bestselling author, a former geologist by training, and someone who is an International Educator in Human Potential and Social Policy, ICS, and Science, and is one of the most prominent fundamental thought leaders, I personally think for giving the context of where we are currently in terms of humanity, where we come from and where we are going. and this conversation will be full of reflections on

transhumanism

, the fight for our own Divinity and Humanity, we are going to explore the possibility of knowing where ancient civilizations come from and much more, so Greg Braen, thank you very much for being here Andre, I am very excited to be with you this first time we worked together, the first time I had the privilege of working with you, this is completely unscripted, I have no idea where we're going to go and that's what makes it. very exciting and if I can say it is a very auspicious day, the eclipse happened on my way and it set the tone for everything we are going to do today, so thank you for the invitation and my brother, this is a dance.

I'm going to follow your example, yes, absolutely fine, let's follow the powerful energy of today's solar eclipse and you know, I want to start with this reflection and listen to your thoughts on what this

battle

for our humanity and our humanity is that is so An important reflection to As the inevitable advent and rise of AGI and the merging of technology with human biology is upon us and happening day by day, new things are now being developed. I would love for you to establish the context of what that battle is. You know it's a perfect place to start because it truly is the umbrella under which every event takes place Bar None in our lives and in our world there is a battle it's an ancient battle some people would originally frame it as a battle between good and evil or light and dark perceived as good and evil, ultimately light and dark are simply energies until we give them the meaning we give them, but there is not an ancient battle being fought, it is not an obsolete battle , the one that is being fought today before our eyes and is established. the context of every event that unfolds in our world, so this is a perfect place to start, we all know there is a battle for our thoughts, that is obvious if you watch the network news, we have commentators trying to tell us what think. and how to think and how to perceive events and in our lives most people know that there is a battle over our beliefs that has been going on for a while in mainstream classrooms Mainstream textbooks For example, how did the universe begin?

Is it a conscious and intelligent beginning? Or is it a dead, random internal process we are living in? How do we start and will we talk about this? Are we the product of random mutations and lucky biology? When we are made to believe that something else is happening. There those things are important but they are all part of an even deeper battle. There is a battle for our humanity that is going on right now and that is humanity is the vehicle that allows for an even deeper experience, Andre and that experience for any of our viewers may wonder how relevant this conversation really is.

There is something deep within each of us that is so powerful, so precious, so sacred, so beautiful, that nations will go to war with other nations to keep us distracted from knowing what this power is. It's about armies armies will be defeated pandemics will be unleashed we will see the collapse of societies we will see the collapse of financial systems all in an effort to keep us distracted from the sacredness of this power within us so I'm going to use one word and then the We will define, it is the power of human Divinity that is only possible through the biological body and this is one of the reasons why there is such a movement to replace our biology with synthetic and artificial intelligence, so the word is is Divinity, is divine, our divine nature now, when I use that word in public audiences, many people assume that it has something to do with religion and I can see why because there are Divinity schools where religion is taught, but if you look at the definition of divinity is a deceptively simple definition and it simply says that dindi is the power within us to transcend perceived limitations and that's it so you can see where religion would be wrapped around that concept, the idea of ​​transcending perceived limitations as well. that I'm I'm going to break this down just a little bit, but the idea of ​​transcendence means not just surviving but becoming greater than being more than whatever life brings to our door the challenge that life brings to our door so that our ability to transcend perceived limitations, they may not even be real, they are the limitations we have imposed on ourselves through our culture and our society, through our textbooks, through fake science, through of our culture, our religion, but they may not even be real, so our Divinity.

It is the ability to become something more than the worst challenges that life brings to our door, the reason it is such a powerful force within us is because through our Divinity, among the things we transcend is fear. Divinity is what enables us to transcend our own fears if We, as an individual and as a society, are not afraid, we are very, very difficult to control because without fear we have the freedom to love, create, innovate. Express, all of these are characteristics of divinity. I just want to give some examples of what Divinity is all about because for some people it is this everyday esoteric concept.

We express Divinity every day of our lives. I had the chance. In 2016 I went to the Grammy Music Awards and they held them in New York that year. My wife is a voting member at the Grammys and she invited me and I said yes, that's very nice of her, she was very kind and I took the opportunity and met amazing people there and every chance I got I asked the musicians. and to the producers I would say when you wrote this amazing piece of music or when the lyrics to this song came out, can you tell me where they came from?

And each one of them, Andre, all of them until the end gave me the same answer, they all said. It didn't come from me, it came through me from somewhere else, each of them said they had to find a way to get out of the way to allow this deep inspiration to pass through them, which is a familiar facet of artists. of divinity, they say the same thing if you talk to an artist who has made a sculpture or an incredible work, or a poet, I mean, they say the same thing as a writer. I've had this experience where I don't know what I'm going to write and I sit down and give myself a chance to have a blank sheet of paper or now it's a blank computer screen and I'm left too empty to fill myself with whatever it is. that is going to arise.

These are expressions of Divinity. it is a part of us our Divinity is the part of us that is ancient it is timeless it is eternal uh it is where our creativity our intuition our imagination comes from and it is what differentiates us from any other form of life and as we delve deeper into the biology of how it works we can only access our Divinity through our bodies through the DNA antenna of our bodies and the cellular structure of our bodies there is a movement to replace our bodies the transhuman movement to replace our bodies with synthetics with chemicals in the blood sensors under the skin are computer chips in the brain, artificial intelligence and in doing so it robs us of our ability to access this part of us, our Divinity, so what we are seeing in the world today is if Are you looking at Ukraine and Russia and the role of the United States or are you looking at the Middle East are you looking at Israel and the Palestinian tragedy, that is, the horrors that are happening there and you look at everything that is happening around you and what people tends.

To think that these are isolated spontaneous events and people say to me wow, you know, it's not surprising that all these things are happening right now, they are happening now because the battle for our Divinity has been intentional to such a degree that these are the events. what it takes to move away from that internal focus. Now I am not saying that everyone, every politician, every leader of every nation, is certainly aware of what I am saying, many of them are pawns in this ancient battle of good and evil of light. and dark ones don't even know they're ponds because they're so wrapped up in the bubble of the level that they're playing this very dark game inside, but when you start to step back and look at the bigger picture uh the evidence supports the story and it's very clear that this battle is going on and what's interesting to me when you use the term battle is probably not even a good word anymore because in battle it implies conflict.

I think we are now. at a point in our lives and our Consciousness where we have the ability and consciousness to transcend, this is our Divinity, if you do not engage in the battle, if you transcend the battle, then this is how we do not win, but we triumph when we speak. about winning and losing, we are trapped in that old paradigm, we do not want to win or lose, we want to succeed to be more and the way we do it is very interesting to me is by living the best version of Our Lives. living the best version of ourselves fully expressing perhaps for the first time in human history what it really means to be human and Andre what science tells us is that we don't even know what it means to be fully human because we have never expressed the depth and the breadth of our full humanity, so that as we move forward in this moment in history, there are some who allow themselves to engage in distraction and detours and others who recognize that it is not that we dismiss what is happening nor that I say which is not important, everything is important, but there is a science, there is a skill and there is an art to overcome life and become the best version of ourselves and in that way do exactly what the definition of divinity says, transcend our perceived limitations, so I would like to say this to set the context for everything we are seeing in our lives today, including the things that many friends of mine have about social justice, things that are important and that they are really involved in, for example, in the United States.

Cue the pronoun conversation, what pronouns are we using, the transgender conversation, the abortion conversation, the gay rights conversation, all of this is important, but if you look closely at what's happening, the races black on white , Christian vs. Muslim, Jew vs. Muslim, the rich vs. the poor, these are all really important conversations that go right to the gut, they go right to the core of our Most Primordial instincts and if we don't know how we are engaging, then we will respond at that level. Primordial, they are important conversations that have been cleverly used as a weapon. to divide us and keep us apart from each other to break the social bonds that have always held families, communities, societies and nations together, there is an intentional effort to break those bonds and unfortunately it seems to be working well to some extent Because By allowing it, we allow ourselves to play as pawns in this ancient game, so conversations are important and I don't want to diminish the importance of those conversations.

It is also important to recognize that issues have been weaponized and instead of having kind conversations to bring us closer together as brothers and sisters in the global family. The differences that we used to celebrate as our strength have now become the differences that are being used as weapons to divide us and keep us in our fear and that is Divinity. that allows us to transcendthat fear, so when you think about this, it suddenly becomes very clear why a dark power would want to keep us in that fear because we become helpless victims of that fear and as victims we need a savior and technology.

We are now touted as our savior. We are told that we are flawed as humans by virtue of our existence. Emotion is one of our defects. The ability or inability to make clear logical decisions without emotion. Empathy is considered a defect by transhumanist disease death is considered a defect by transhumanists and we are programming our young people to believe that they are broken and defective from the moment of birth and that they are victims of something beyond their control and If you are a Victim, you need a savior and the Savior we are told is technology: computer chips in the brain, artificial intelligence sensors under the skin, AI that knows ourselves better than we know ourselves and uh , when you start to understand the big picture, and I'm intentionally covering a lot of ground here because we'll link to this when you start to understand the big picture, suddenly the power of The Human Divinity becomes more than just casual academic peripheral conversation: it's front and center of everything that is happening in our lives today and the beauty is that you don't have to know it, but you can simply live the best version of yourself and transcend the efforts to keep ourselves small, separate and insignificant, So does it make sense?

If I put it that way, it's absolutely a long answer to a short question. I think it's important to set the stage because not everyone understands the extent of what this is. It's happening right now in society and this fight for our own humanity and with this transhuman movement and the exponential rise of various technologies, from food engineering to sharper technology. AI gene editing is an incredible promise that these technologies bring and solve a lot of problems that, um. It's incredible and yet at the same time that you talked about the part as we continue to merge technology into our human biology, there are aspects of ourselves that we begin to lose access to and that begin to atrophy within ourselves, so which I would love for you to establish. stage two of because not everyone realizes where we are currently in terms of this and uh and the dangers and the promise because there are both, I mean last month we saw the first neuralink patient able to successfully control the mouse of the computer. with his brain and you know, he's a quadriplegic and there are amazing things for that too, you know, this is part of a very old conversation.

Some of our listeners may be familiar with my work. I'm not. m I'm a scientist, I have a degree, uh, Earth scientist, my first degree and I worked in corporations as a problem solver from 1979 to the early 1990s, so I had and I say this because I had the opportunity to work. along with brilliant scientists, I mean physicists, mathematicians, engineers, incredible people, incredible people, who see amazing technology, and that will be important in our conversation here in a moment, but there was a part of this conversation that would normally happen around the coffee machine and drinking fountain. and in the break room where the scientists and engineers met and the conversation normally went like this, there was a group that always said because we can do these things because we have had the idea of ​​developing these extraordinary technologies that give us the right to use them. it gives us the right to implement them if we never had to implement them we would never have discovered it and during the Cold War years when this revolved around weapons technology, this is a very important conversation, there is another school of thought another group of scientists say oh wait, you know, not so fast just because we can doesn't mean we should do these things just because we can do these things maybe we should reflect a little and think about the moral implications or what it means for our values ​​in society that conversation has never been resolved it's an ongoing conversation right now, so it's like the accelerator and the brakes, on the one hand, we are going to be born exploring the deepest mysteries of the universe and life itself and now we have the ability, like Some people say, of hacking the physics of the universe and the biology of human life or all life and once you do it, the proverbial Genie is out of the bottle.

You're never going to go back once you develop it, you're never going to leave it undeveloped, you're probably not going to put it on the shelf somewhere, you're going to use it and implement it in some way so the other part of this is what I saw very quickly is that the technology It is neither good nor bad nor right or wrong is the thinking that underlies society when the technologies that were being developed during World War II and the Cold War years poured enormous amounts of energy and human power into it. human intellect, money and technology and to push the boundaries of what we know and discover beautiful things like how to split the atom, unfortunately it was in the context of wartime that that application was used for a weapon when we all know there are so many things. that can arise from that and the same thing is happening with

transhumanism

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There are places and you just mentioned one. Elon Musk has a company called neural link and it has actually been around for a while and they are the first to develop the computer chip. It's not actually in the brain, it's interesting, it's in a space above the brain and below the bone and there's a little space there and there are 128 microfibers that go down to the neocortex and collect information that the sensors collect. The information from the neurons is returned to the chip and then the chip processes it and sends it essentially via Bluetooth type technology to the computer wirelessly, which can be a beautiful thing for service men and women who have lost arms. and legs. and on the battlefields on the other half of the world Afghanistan Iraq um, give a man or a woman the ability to hold their babies once again with their prosthetics or to brush their teeth or comb their hair or feed themselves, but how beautiful, beautiful.

And that's one of the good things that can come from all of this. Now there are proposals on the table. Government agencies propose by 2030 that all newborns be implanted with a computer chip in their brains, they say, to give them the advantage. in business and in technology and to be able to compete successfully in life and when I say this in front of a live audience I mean that I can see people's eyes. I mean, you don't know, my babies, we don't want this, so there's a part. of us, this is the Andre generation, it's not going to go on forever, we're at this crucial point where technology is at this stage where we're now making a decision and I'm fascinated by this because it's never happened before us.

We have the ability to make decisions that will not so much change the world around us but the world within us forever in ways that can never be reversed, this goes down to the genetic level and when we define the human being through a very specific quality of DNA, we now have drug proposals on the table for different types of medical applications that will forever change who we are genetically and we don't even know what that means, we don't even know what it means to be human that we are. about to surrender our humanity to technology before we even know what it means to be fully human.

Personally, I'm not saying it's right, wrong, right or wrong. I have my own personal feelings, but my feeling is that we need it, we owe it to them. ourselves as a species to discover who we are and what it means to be human before we give it away forever, but I think that's where the beauty is when we discover the deep truth of what it means to be human and the power within the human cell. and within our own Divinity we will feel less needed and less attracted to bringing that external technology into our bodies because we are the technology literally.

That's why I said what I said a moment ago when I was in the industry and I worked on a project called uh SDI Star Wars Defense Initiative it was back in the 1980s and even then we had the laser systems and the radar systems and the communications systems and the systems. most amazing computer scientists and who knows, you know where they are now, they have come much further, but Here is something as advanced as each of them. Never to this day have I seen a technology developed outside of our bodies that doesn't mimic what we already do in some way within the cells and systems of our bodies. except we do it better, we do it better and that's a big statement, let me share what I mean by that, let's put computer chips in the brain when I'm with a live audience and a lot of young people come to our programs and they've been taught to worship computers and AI and computer chips are God, I mean, literally, that's what they've been taught and when I say to a young person and I have a really very honest conversation, you know, computer chips are fast absolutely fast efficient totally I mean, I'm with you in that I was a senior computer systems designer for a company called Martin Marietta Defense Systems and I was with computers day and night and they are impressive machines, so m I'm not denigrating that in any way. way, but this is what a computer chip will always be limited in its function by the physics of the material it is made of, so silicon atoms for example, the space between those atoms only allows information to travel. so fast between that space and once that limit is reached it cannot scale, then that is the upper limit, meaning they have reached the capacity for that computer chip.

Now you look at a human neuron and say, well, what is it? the upper limit of the human neuron and the answer is that we don't know and this is why this is so beautiful because every time we think we reach the capacity of a neuron to retain or transmit information, what happens is that the neuron adapts and transforms, changes, changes to adapt to the greater capacity that we are asking it to do, we do not know what the upper end is because every time we reach it we surpass it, that is part of our humanity and when young people They start to understand that we don't have any chip that can do anything to that extent and that's just one example.

I mean, the immune system is another example that we probably have a whole conversation about about the immune system and what that means for the human body. The average human body has about 50 trillion cells in the body, give or take, whatever the average is, each of those cells has an electrical potential of about 07 volts per cell and you say, well, you know it's a Pretty small potential and I agree, but Do the math 50 billion times 07 volts of electrical potential. Now you're talking about over three billion volts of electrical potential. What would it mean if we could harness that and then apply it to our healing and to our intuition or to the Regeneration of the cells in our bodies, but it doesn't stop there because every cell in our body works like a transistor, it works like a resistor, it works like a capacitor , stores and releases information, is a photon generator, we send light and light.

It is information, so we send light to the surrounding field and receive light from the sun and other individuals. We are photon receivers. Each cell stores information and retrieves it as we do on a chip and young people here love this. a technology that exists called blockchain technology that is the basis of Bitcoin and digital law, you know, digital finance, where did the idea of ​​blockchain come from? Blockchain technology and computers actually mimic the way DNA stores information in cells. Blockchain information is immutable. once it's there it stays there forever, it's transparent, if you know how to read it anyone can read it, it can't be hacked, it's secure and that's exactly why blockchain is so powerful with digital currencies, that's how we store information in the human body and I could continue with the point: all the technology in the world around us, to some extent, is imitating what we already do inside our bodies, except we do it better.

Can I share a short story absolutely about this year 1990? I was hiking through a remote area of ​​northwestern New Mexico's Choco Canyon in preparation to lead a group. I was doing a reconnaissance trip and I was walking along a remote trail and there was a lone native man who was walking in the opposite direction and he stopped and we talked for a few moments and he started telling me a story and the story is pertinent to this conversation, He said that a long time ago the people of Earth remembered who they were and lived much closer to Earth, they were much happier.

Of course and he says something happened and they didn't evenThe elders know what it was, but the people of the earth began to forget who they are, but they so long for the deep connection they had between themselves and the forces of nature and the The cosmos and the Earth beneath their feet so long for that connection that they began to build in their outer world reminders of what that connection meant in their inner world and he said: today we live in that world, we long for that connection. We miss our true potential and he said we will continue to build things that will saturate our world with gadgets, machines and devices that continue to imitate and reflect who we are until one day we wake up and say, oh my God, that's it. us and then we will let go of the external technology because we will have remembered to awaken our internal technology.

The world becomes more sophisticated because we have woken up, but it seems simpler because the external disorder disappears and that man is still a friend today in one of the towns in northern New Mexico, but I think his story and from his perspective gives us a deep insight, perhaps into why we are where we are in the world today, we are reaching this point of convergence, we can all feel it, it's like a rubber band. The band is so stretched that something is going to give and probably in many different ways a lot of things are going to give because it's unsustainable, but part of that is that we are starting to come back to ourselves and understand who we are, what our potential really is. is and that we are more than the machines that we have built more than AI more than computer chips and that is why this is a decision that we now have to make is Society, are we willing to give ourselves?far from the efficiency and speed of a computer chip at the expense of losing the power of human emotion of losing our ability to have empathy, sympathy and compassion for another being, are we willing to trade those things for efficiency and speed? a question that we have to answer as a society and it is a question that the transhumanist would say yes to increase longevity potentially towards immortality improve cognitive abilities that things like human emotions and many of these things that we are talking about are worth it give up, which is a scary thought.

I want you to delve a little deeper into how our DNA is

spiritual

ly linked to us and how these chips and DNA tinkering in many ways can diminish our connection. to that in information Path to our divinity we are in this dangerous place in technology where we know enough to mess things up we can edit and hack human DNA what we don't know Andre is we don't know the implications of what we're doing because science and scientists have yet to fully understand what it means to be human and one of the places where I think this is coming to light the fastest and this is how science will learn that science will eventually have if science wants REM to remain valid, Science has to accept the fact that there is something beyond the human body that is not taken into account in scientific models.

I'll just say that I grew up in northern Missouri and when I started school I had the opportunity to see Albert Einstein's brain when he died, they took his brain out of his body and preserved it at the University of Kansas and cut it into thin slices to see what what made his brain so different from the others, what made him different from the others. more and what they found was that it looked a lot like anyone else's brain, with one exception: his brain had many more folds. When you take all those folds and stretch them, it means he had more surface area in his brain and that surface area is more neurons the neurons we now know are essentially biological antennas we don't store memories in our brains we don't store memories of our loved ones and the neurons in our brain neurons are the antenna that tunes to a very specific place in a vibrational space v the field that scientists now know connects all things 2012 scientists at CERN, the superconducting super collider in Geneva, Switzerland, announced that yes, there is a field that underlies all of existence esoterically, we knew it and we talked about it everyone said, well, yes, sure there is a field, but the scientific community did not recognize that in 2012 that was not that long ago, so there is a field and it is a subtle energy field and information is stored in that field.

Our neurons are the antenna that tunes to very specific places in that field. DNA does the same thing, for example, when we want to learn something new, if you're trying to learn a foreign language or I'm a musician, you're a musician, we're trying to learn a piece of music. We know and we're trying to imitate what someone else does and the first few times you do it you go through the motions and it feels awkward or you're speaking a foreign language and you're saying syllables that just sound weird. suddenly you wake up one morning man you're thinking in Spanish you know you're thinking in French or suddenly you wake up one morning and you're playing like Steve VI my hero on the guitar and people say well what happened at that moment well this It's fascinating to me if you look at the time-lapse photos of the neurons trying to connect.

Neurons are very social cells that want to connect and are looking for another neuron to connect with, but it doesn't happen instantly. It takes about 72 hours and about three days for dendrites to connect and find each other, so here's what's really happening: It's the act of you or me or anyone watching this to learn something new to become something more. to improve ourselves and become something. more in the next moment than we were in the last moment that drives that compulsion we feel is the trigger it is the command for neurons to find other neurons to create the antenna that tunes to the place in the field that contains what we are Asking ourselves ourselves to dominate.

Does it make sense if I say it that way? It's amazing to see this happen and that's why a lot of young people today, new new generations, their parents will say, man, my kids, you know they're having a hard time learning because things don't come to them quickly, they want to learn right now. and what I tell them is to stick with it and allow the process to give you three days, ask you to stay with it for three days and see if it works. It doesn't get better and it does whether you're trying to learn math, science, art, music, a language, whatever it is, so this is important, we need our biology to connect with the information in the field.

Divinity is part of that information, our intuition, our creativity. what some people call your higher self when you are praying or when you are meditating what you are really doing is your physiology what our ancestors called the temple this is the temple the vessel that holds the antenna with which we are communicating that part what a place in the field where many people have come for us and also communicating with that place in the field, that is why when you start replacing natural biology with synthetic there are no longer neurons, there is no longer DNA and what that means is that there is no longer Antenna for us to still function in this physical world.

Now we have been veiled. I don't want to say that it is completely lost, but access is veiled and harder to reach for our intuition, our conscience that knows what is right, what is wrong and what is right. and bad and the ability to communicate with other forms of life on subtle levels other dimensions on subtle levels the ability to meditate and elevate ourselves on those levels all that innovation creativity imagination all of that begins to atrophy if we don't use and This is the danger and science It's proving it if we don't use those parts of ourselves now.

For example, computer chips are placed in the brain, in the neocortex, and they begin to replace the mirror neurons. We will talk about mirror neurons. a bit is a type of neuron what the studies show very clearly is that the new discoveries are that the human brain continues to produce neurons until the last breath we take on this planet, they told us when I was in college, they told you We know that you have until the last breath of life; However, here's the caveat: if a new neuron is produced and doesn't activate significantly within about 14 days, it will atrophy and die because it feels like it's not necessary if we have virtual AI headsets on our kids that tell them.

They entertain, everything is being done for them, so you have a three year old sitting on the floor of a living room after breakfast with a headset for hours watching extraordinary scenes and vivid colors and sounds that they would never see in the natural world. , but this is what is being done for them. They are not engaging their imagination. They are not engaging their creativity. They are not engaging their problem-solving skills. Everything they are doing. is entertaining and what happens is the brain cells that are not active begin to atrophy, so now psychologists are publishing articles of young children who are doing just this and have cognitive impairment because everything motor, from motor skills to language and socialization, the visual cortex is thickening because that's the part of your brain that's being used.

When we fail to engage our Divinity in a meaningful way, those parts of us begin to atrophy in one generation, the Next Generation, your body says, oh, you know, maybe we don't use these. We no longer need this and it becomes an appendix to a skill we used to have. That's how you lose a species, that's exactly how you lose a species because it's happening at the genetic level as well with reproduction, um, with the immune response. all these kinds of things, so the point is that it is through our natural biology that we have access to our Divinity or our ability to transcend our perceived limitations.

When our natural biology is replaced, those abilities begin to atrophy or we lose access. overall in that field we are still alive, it is possible that we are no longer human if we define the human being through DNA and as Homo sapiens sapiens we can become something very different one of Google's technology research directors, Ray KW is his name, uh, he's a futurist, he's a visionary, he's been around for a long time and I'm just going to share his perspective and it's not to disrespect Ray Kerswell because he's a technologist so he's just looking at technology and he's that it is possible, what he says.

By the year 2030 2035 we will no longer be pure humans, he said, when you talk to another human, we will talk and become some degree of hybrid between external technology, artificial technology and natural biology, and he believes that this is moving towards what he called The Singularity The Singularity is where we become the technology that we have adopted into our bodies becomes so dominant that we are now part of the Internet of all things that monitor us, track us, track our vital signs. AI is determining our lifestyles what we can eat what we can buy how we travel where we travel uh all that says between 2035 2045 is when he expects what he calls this Singularity to happen where it used to be an interesting scientific concept until the political powers started to propose now the policies that are actually implementing these same things, so we have seen this since 2019, just before the pandemic, when at the World Economic Forum the unelected officials of the think tank that has existed since 1971 met. once a year and you know they sit around and talk about what they think the world should be and I don't have a problem with that.

What happened on 19, 2019 is that they signed a formal agreement with the United Nations and the UN has a program. called SDG 2030 sustainable development goals for 2030 17 goals that they want to implement by the year 2030 and that they believe contribute to a better world these are unelected officials you and I have no say and what they propose changes every facet of our lives typically of a way that is about contraction and loss of freedom rather than expansion and gaining freedom of expression of life, so the UN has been trying to implement these policies and they have had a slow start, they are not where they would like them to be.

It must be because they are not popular, the World Economic Forum has had these ideas and they don't know how to give them a push. They signed a formal agreement in 2019 for the UN to use the sustainable development goals as an implementation arm for many of the World Economic Forum's ideas because they are so aligned, and suddenly, those abstract ideas that sound like a dystopian scientific future pulled out of a really bad movie, are now up for a vote at the United Nations, they are proposed. the United States Congress through different forms of legislation at the state and federal level and I think we need to be aware of these things.

It all comes down to thisconversation we're talking about about our humanity. Do these ideas give us freedom of imagination? creativity and expansion of life and health and healing in the body or they want to control the contract confine uh and limit our expression of all those things and when we start to see the answer to that we can see the thought and where it is going on, but I want to mention one. Can I mention one more thing? No, okay, I'm just kidding, go ahead, well, we'll get back to the show, but first, this episode is sponsored by Better Help, how's your social battery right now? feeling exhausted feeling burdened We all have different needs for how much time we need to spend alone versus with other people and I truly feel that the quality of our lives is largely dictated by the quality of our relationships and all relationships with others are directly affected by the relationship we have with ourselves first, so therapy can be a great mirror to our internal landscape and to see where we are lacking in setting boundaries, maybe having certain coping mechanisms and ultimately , help us clarify who we are, what we value and what relationships.

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Bine um. The same thing is happening to cows too, their bodies are breaking down prematurely and they are succumbing to really strange diseases that are not typical for that species or for that age in the species and they can't understand why and they say, okay, we take a cell, now here is another identical cell, why wouldn't they? lives the same life, it's not the same cell and this is where I think science is going to have to come to terms with this, so at the risk of giving too much detail, let me go into a little bit of detail about how a clone actually It works, it's fascinating because what they will do is take a sheep's egg, for example, and they will remove the DNA from the nucleus and put another sheep's DNA into that nucleus. and let it grow this is what they don't tell you not all the DNA is in the nucleus part of the DNA is outside the nucleus and there is a communication that occurs between the DNA an energetic communication that is established when they The term is enucleation when they take out the DNA from that nucleus and put it into another form of DNA in that nucleus.

They left the DNA outside the nucleus. Now those two kingdoms of DNA are no longer in communication, they cannot and paper. that the outer core is playing with that inner core of information sharing as a model for longevity, that communication has now been lost, so that is at least part of the reason why premature collapse is occurring, this leads to An area in which the scientist The community does not want to go there is that there is more than a chemical conversation going on, it is an energetic conversation and it is that energetic conversation that gives us our humanity because our DNA is the antenna, it is a vibrating antenna in communication with a part of us that is Eternal that is timeless uh it's the part of us that does all the things that we've been talking about that allows us to have what some people consider divine abilities because they are the types of abilities that we always have we've attributed to our, you know, super people you know Wonder Woman and Superman and things like that, the ability to heal on demand, uh, to create resilience on demand, to longevity enzymes or what some people call enzymes. anti-aging on demand. 1,300 positive biochemical reactions is that we have the ability to self-regulate On Demand in a way that no other form of life can do, that is part of our Divinity, we begin to lose that when we surrender our humanity to technology, to AI, to computer chips chemicals in our blood gene therapies to enhance the immune response we're just on this edge we know enough how to implement it we don't know and we haven't taken the chance to ultimately explore what the implications are and uh and we'll have to accept that as society and it's a civilization and this will happen in this generation, it can't last, you know, another five generations, it's now, this is up to us and I'm very passionate about this. because I believe that it is worth preserving ourselves there is something and we can delve into this there is something so precious and sacred in our humanity that has never been given to any other form of life that we know today now there are many forms of life, I am sure in all the cosmos and maybe it happened somewhere else, but as far as I know, we are and we are all we have and if we lose ourselves, if we lose our humanity, we will never get it. come back and the cosmos will never know what it means for us to be fully human on this beautiful planet, this beautiful world that we live in and those who want to steal our humanity uh have a very different goal and very different ideas and um and I think it's important to We recognize that this is happening in our lives right now, not be afraid of it in any way, but be aware and celebrate our humanity and be aware when policies or people ask us to allow them to guide us.

In our lives, elected officials, what do they represent? and they look beyond the things that are being used as weapons to divide us. They look beyond the primaries. They look beyond lgbq and look beyond the transhuman gaze. beyond abortion. humanity and that instead of a popularity contest and that is a very different way of thinking for a lot of people and sometimes it bothers me to say that, but if we don't say it now, Andre, we will never be able to say it because In the next few years, either Through executive orders or through corporations that direct much of what we do, what we eat, and how we live, we will be pushed into the space where we are invited or forced to give our humanity. away and I know it's happening and I'm still in awe of how sexy marketing is when I see marketing and how it attracts young people with the images, you know, the videos and things like that, young people who have never been taught. to respect themselves and their bodies and how valuable they really are who wouldn't accept it who wouldn't want a computer chip in their brain that allows them to play games without a cable connected to their computer man who doesn't want that so I think our work has been very important to us and it sounds complex and to some people it sounds scary, but I think it's very simple and what it is is that we strive to inform our young people how special they are.

It's how precious their lives are to be very aware of what they put into their bodies and what they put into their bodies and help them understand that their uniqueness is appreciated, desired and needed in the world and that it can only happen through their natural nature. skills, not the uniformity of computer chips and AI, so it was a long statement, so what do you think you know? It was wonderful. Thanks for giving all that context and all the nuances and tangents. I think it really is like that. It helps us understand where we are. I don't think most of us, even probably to many degrees.

We in this conversation know to what extent, uh, how exponentially this technology is evolving much faster than regulatory agencies could do anything. about this to many degrees, like once the genie is out of the bottle, it's out of the bottle and we don't know what we don't know. I think we can wrongly attribute malice where ignorance would suffice. You know, there is that saying. We simply don't fully know what we are doing and I have heard you share many times how the more we truly know who we are, the less we fear the change that is coming.

The problem is that many of us simply don't know who we are, we don't know what the real potential is within human biology, the human spirit and I love how you reflect on the importance of seeing the stories we tell ourselves. what is to come and that is why you opened many avenues and many doors to where we are currently headed with this exponential increase in the technology of doing it to a point where we may not understand the effects that it is having on our human being. Divinity and many of these aspects that people would see as superum that we have within us and so I just want you to reflect a little more on the story that we are telling ourselves about what is to come.

I go back and pick up a couple of things and I agree 100% when you talk about people developing technology now. I used Ray Kurile as an example. I have worked with many of these people. I have not done it. I worked with Ry, but I've worked with people like this and they're tech savvy and this is it and they're in their element, what they've been given is permission to push the boundaries as much as they can, and they've been given the funding. . and the technology that allows them to open those doors. I have had conversations with him and I would tell him well, what does this mean for society, what does it mean for a family, what does it mean for a human being who walks the Earth and this is what they will tell me, they will tell me, do not ask me that question that is above my pay grade they will say I am not paid to think about the social implications I am paid to push the boundaries of this technology someone else will realize that well Those techies are now executing many of the policies we are being asked to adopt without thinking about the social or moral implications or the lasting implications without the recognition of how delicate a balance our genome really presents to us and once modifying that genome in very, very specific ways, which we can now do with you, you mentioned that right. clearer way.

Gene editing, you can't undo the editing, I can, and it's a big process that I don't think you can go back into a species once you make those changes, so yeah, I think a lot of it is the technology that just I will summarize this way, technology has developed faster than the morality of how we use it in our lives or what it means in our lives and I think it is a very fair statement to say with your permission now. Can we delve into something really deep esoteric? Are you okay if we do it? I don't know, it's not really my avenue for this podcast.

I want, I would love to, please, let's keep diving deep, well, I think one of the reasons and this is not new to generations since 1859, Charles Darwin proposed a theory that we call the theory of evolution in his book or Origin of Species uh was published in 1859, it was a different world in 1859, before my time. I certainly don't remember you being Timeless Greg, but I have a really interesting story to tell. I published a book a few years ago. does a radio interview about traffic in New York City to promote this book and it was all the evidence that doesn't support evolution so the interviewer showed up in the morning and man there was no good morning welcome Greg how? 6: a. m.

The interview for me was, you know, commuter traffic in New York. I live in the mountain states so it was 8 8am. m. to them and the first thing he says he says what gives you the right to talk about evolution and biology and I said I thought he was joking I said excuse me and he says he says you're just a geologist what gives you the right to talk about biology and question the theory of evolution of Darwin and then I knew he was serious and I told him I told him I told him my brother, do you know what the profession of the man who developed the theory of evolution was? what was Charles Darwin's profession and he said no and I said he was a geologist and the guy he came back to said okay let's go rest and they took a break and he never came back so that was the end of that conversation, the point is that Darwin uh, where I think Darwin made the mistake was that he took what he saw with a life form, a species of birds in a place on the Gagas Islands in One Moment In Time 1853 and he took what he saw happening there and generalized it. for all life in all places throughout all time, including humans, so I want to make it very clear that, as a geologist, evolution is a fact.

I've seen it in the fossil record. I dug those fossils when I was in school and I think. in the theory of evolution collapses when it comes to humans something happened to us that is not taken into account in ourstudy of evolutionary biology happened 200,000 years ago when the first anatomically modern humans is what is now called amh is the acronym Anatomically modern humans when the first amh emerged on our planet. We now have the ability to extract DNA from fossilized remains of ancient life forms, including life forms that we used to think were our ancestors and when we compare their DNA to ours now.

We know that we are not descended, for example, from Neanderthals. We may have some Neanderthal DNA. Some people have it, especially in northern Europe, because we share the Earth with them. We walk the Earth with them. They say we probably had Neanderthal boyfriends and girlfriends. We enter. bred um I was a show not long ago and I made that statement there's a woman in the front row and she said I still have it I still have a NE fall boyfriend and then the guy next to her wasn't laughing at all , so I set out to see the whole Taller relationship, you know, it happened right before my eyes, but the point is that we didn't descend from the Neanderthals, we shared the Earth with them, if we walked the Earth with them, we couldn't have descended of them and the same is true.

For these other archaic life forms, what the DNA says, Andre, and this is mind-blowing because we don't have to speculate on this piece. When you compare our modern genome, you take your blood or my blood and compare it to the genome. We developed from the fossilized remains of our first ancestors we have not changed we appeared 200,000 years ago we do not know where we come from we have not changed since then now we have obviously changed in Consciousness we have evolved in the way we think, but our biology has not changed, we had all the advanced neural network and all the self-regulation ability and all the things that our Divinity was available to us two 200,000 years ago, the way it happened, scientists now know they don't know.

I don't know what to make of what they have found is that there were mutations in our DNA that cannot be explained under natural circumstances. They do not occur in nature with certain chromosomes. Yes, for example, one of the deepest is human chromosome number two. Chromosome 2 is the second largest chromosome in the human body in the cell. It has about 12200 genes, as chromosome genes are small segments of DNA, chromosome are the long strands of DNA and then genes are the shorter segments. DNA, one of those genes is called TBR, number one, tbr1, is responsible for the size of our brain.

We appeared 200,000 years ago. We have a brain 50% larger than ours. The closest primate relative rise is like that, it didn't happen slowly, gradually, over a long period of time, with a neocortex. I know you've had my brother Joe dispense before and he talks a lot about, you know, neuroscience and in the neocortex. the mirror neurons that allow us the ability to visualize in our mind an image of what we want to happen in our bodies and then the mirror neuron that feeds the brain and informs the body to produce the chemistry that matches what we are seeing in our mirror neurons that occurred 200,000 years ago now some other life forms have that to a lesser extent, but not like us, human chromosome number two, where did it come from?

Well, scientists now know that it is the fusion of two existing chromosomes, they are fused. Okay, on a typical chromosome and I know many of our viewers know that this is called at the ends of chromosomes. You hear a lot about this in longevity space biohacking and longevity looms at the ends of chromosomes that protect DNA. inside, if this is a chromosome, then at the ends of the chromosome are the telomas that protect the vital DNA information here because when the cell divides and the chromosome divides, that is a trauma to that chromosome and part of the chromosome is not divide.

I don't want that to be the good thing here, so nature gives us this buffer at the ends called telr when division occurs, the part that doesn't do so is not as vital because it's at the ends, well, here's the chromosome. Number two, what we see is that there are telomes at the ends of the chromosome and there are telomes right in the middle because originally it was two separate chromosomes that were fused together, so now you know where they should never be in the middle of the chromosome that This doesn't happen. in nature, but it didn't stop there because once fusion occurred there was redundancy in the functions of the chromosomes, so some of the chromosomes were inactivated, some were silenced, some were deleted and some were added to stabilize.

This can't happen in nature, we didn't know what that meant until gene editing happened and it looks like gene editing happened 200,000 years ago and if it was just chromosome 2, you could say maybe it's a fluke, but It is not our capacity. As a musician I have always had the question: we share 98% of our DNA with a chimpanzee, for example, 98%, but chimpanzees cannot sing. You know, I always wanted to. I mean, you'll never hear a chimpanzee sing. He runs Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven and if you let me know, he definitely will. Yeah, no, it can't happen and this is why chromosomes seven, when you look at primates for about 175 million years, I think that number is accurate, chromosome 7 was stable. unchanged 175 million years ago, suddenly there was this little tweak of two genes that were changed and when that change occurred it gave us the ability to connect our tongue, our brain and our mouth in a way that gave us the ability to have speech complex and guess when it happened 200,000 years ago, exactly 200,000 years ago, and there are other things that happened too, these things didn't happen slowly, gradually over a long period of time and they don't usually happen in nature, then we start to see that the chances of this happening are so small that scientists say it looks like there has been an intervention, that's the word they use, they don't say who or what, but there has been some kind of an intervention and this leads to an esoteric conversation deep that I would like to have if you're okay if we do it, yeah, I absolutely love it because the precision of the moment that you're speaking points to something beyond. the standard evolutionary model and I love that Fred Hoil quote that you gave and that I heard you share as a British astrophysicist British astrophysicist yes, yes, about a tornado, he said probabilities when he was asked at a conference, he was going over all the math and someone in the audience said, you know, cut the math, what are the odds and he said, let me put it this way, he said the odds of human DNA forming the way it was formed to make us who we are today are the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and leaving behind a Boeing 747 and we all know that's probably not going to happen, so that was their way of saying it and this is the scientific community, that's why they're stuck because there's a big difference.

André, between revealing new discoveries and new information and forcing those new discoveries to fit into a pre-existing model, there is a big difference between doing that and revealing new information and allowing that information to lead to the story it tells, there is reluctance in the world scientist. The scientific community traditionally does the latter, where information, and I'm going to go a little deeper into this, where that information leads, takes the scientific community to a place that they are traditionally not prepared to deal with and therefore prefer to avoid. They are not bad people. I have friends in the academy and I have asked them the questions.

I tell them: why can't you teach this to your students? And they are the age I am. I'm 70 years old, so they've been teaching. You know, 40 45 years and what they say is you know, we're going to let the next generation of teachers deal with this problem, we would have to change all our class notes, it makes us look bad as professionals to have to leave. go back and change history and I tell you I said no, it actually validates the power of science because it shows that science is so relevant that it is made to be updated as new information comes to light, it is a living history, no It's a static story, so to Once I started to understand on a personal level that the mutations we are given are human cannot happen in nature, of course, that begs the question of how it happened.

What many people don't know, my degrees are in geology. I studied and I am an amateur archaeologist. I don't have an advanced degree in archeology, but I have done a lot of archaeological work. I am a scholar. I've done a lot of historical work. Old text. ancient traditions. I traveled to places where people still live who preserve many of these traditions and all of this led me to the question: if we are the product of an intentional act that occurred 200,000 years ago, where would we find evidence of that act? a temple wall in Peru that could crumble after a few thousand years would be in the Middle East, you know, on a scroll that could be burned or hidden or destroyed in some way and then I started looking at my artist friends and each of my artist friends does the same thing when they create something they are proud of, the last thing they do is sign it, put their name on it and I said that if we are the product of an intentional act it makes sense that who or what is responsible for us would have left A sign?

Where would we find that? And I was asking this question in the '80s and '90s we didn't have the Internet, uh, Internet, in the early '90s we started to have the Internet we didn't have. computers like we do now, so a lot of what happened was by hand, my feeling was that it would be in the DNA of all life and you say, well, how could a message be written in the goo inside a cell because that's the way we're taught to think about DNA, this is a big story and I'm not even sure where to jump from, but let me tell you this in 2007, Japanese scientists published a report showing that they had stored information written. in the DNA of a bacteria and they chose this bacteria because it replicates quickly, so they were able to look at hundreds of generations of bacteria and then take that 100th generation, take out the DNA and the information was still there.

They showed that DNA is very efficient information. storage medium which was in 2007 the question I had been asking myself is whether this happened to us a long time ago and how it took me 20 years of original research to have the answer that satisfied me became a book in 2004 called the god code was the name of the book and the conclusion is this: if you take the chemical codes that make up the DNA in our bodies, they are made of elements found on the periodic table and each of those elements has different ways of representing It has representations Maths like candle number, atomic weight, and atomic mass, they're all different numbers that represent the same element, hydrogen, for example, and I started looking at that periodic table and wondering if that would somehow correlate to ancient languages. that have remained. to us that tells us who we are, so now let's shift gears briefly, there are four root or core alphabets that all alphabets are derived from thought, in one way or another originally there were six, two of them have been lost, the four that What remains are Ancient Cuniform, Ancient Sanskrit, Arabic which is still used today, and Hebrew which is still used today, those are the four root languages.

One of the great mysteries of linguistics. I am an amateur linguist is that each of the ancient languages ​​has always had numbers that represent letters. uh and the science of exchanging those numbers is called gatria and I just want to make a distinction this is not numerology numerology is a flexible derivative that does not follow the rules of gatria there are 32 rabbinal rules that were established in the second century uh common era CE ad um they use CE now Common Era instead of before and after the death of Jesus 32 real rules and for gatria to be valid you have to follow those rules so I said if the DNA in our bodies has a language is it possible that Could numbers be the common link that allows us to go from chemicals to letters?

In other words, is it possible? Can I read the DNA in my body like I read the letters on the page of a book and the answer is yes, it took 20 years to discover that and the information in our DNA is in layers and each layer has a different code. The first layer is considered the introduction, just as you would have an introduction on the page of a book. What we're doing, Andre, is we think we're putting on an IT hat and instead of looking at biology 101 where you have a cell and in the cell you have a chromosome and chromosomes are now made of genes.

We are seeing the cell as a library. What if the cell is a library and each chromosome is a book and the genes are the paragraphs and sentences of that book and that's exactly what happened? It's a very different way of thinking and I got a lot of attention for this in the scientific community once I started talking about this. I lost credibility in some circles and thatIt's okay because it is by crossing the traditional boundaries that have separated our way of knowing in the past that we gain new wisdom that takes us beyond the boxes and that's why I wanted to go beyond the boxes, so what I did by hand initially It was going through and taking all the elements in our DNA, it's mainly hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, this is what we are in different amounts. hydrogen nitrogen oxygen carbon I looked at all the numbers that represent them and made a list about that time computers became popular and the human genome was now available on the computer so I was able to take DNA and look, you know what I'm actually trying here at the same time I went back to the ancient languages ​​and I'm looking for a number of elements that would match the numbers in the ancient language so I'm looking at the periodic table that correlates it with gatria and there is only one number that works it took 20 years to discover and is the atomic mass.

The atomic mass of the elements in our DNA correlates with the letters of ancient alphabets and here's the beautiful thing: the message it reveals is exactly the same. in all four it's the same in Arabic, the same in Hebrew, the same in CI form and the same in Sanskrit and probably other languages, but those are the four main languages, so when we do that substitution when you use that number bond and literally in the DNA. bases cytosine tomine guanine adenine when you go into those bases and make those substitutions, it actually explains the answer to probably the oldest question we've ever asked when we say who we are the translation of the first layer in DNA the introduction of each cell of our body it reads exactly the same and literally this is not a metaphor, it literally reads the words Eternal God inside the body Eternal God inside the body and the name of God that is written in our DNA is exactly the same as that written in the Traditions oldest or oldest and most precious

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and religious, that name is actually written in the DNA of our bodies, so what we can say with absolute certainty is when we forget who we are, when we think that our differences are so great that we separate. us through the attempt to isolate ourselves and break social bonds and no longer know who we are, we need not look beyond the 50 trillion cells in the human body and the first layer of each of those cells that literally says Eternal God within the body does not tell who God is, where God comes from and people have told me that the rabbis were very hard on me and said that we have tried to keep this secret, which gives you the right to reveal it and I said because I am not a rabbi and I said that if we were ever going to reveal this to ourselves, what better time than now, when we are about to destroy the very essence of the humanist that we love and cherish, we are on the verge of War, this was in the 80s and 90s, right at the end of the Cold War.

Another War, we were on the verge of what better time to reveal this than now and why wouldn't we want to tell ourselves that we are Eternal God within the body. We are not a random process, the result of a random mutation, a slow and gradual evolution. There is an intentional intervention and the signature to inform us about that intervention that literally says that we are Eternal God within the body, what does that mean, what does it mean to live? Your life is Eternal God within the body and what I have found is when people discover this.

I see this in live audiences. I look into people's eyes and I feel like I can feel the vibe in the room because everyone has a challenge in their lives now. How does Eternal God deal with this disease within the body? How does Eternal God deal within the body? deal with the betrayal of trust and it is very different from how we are taught to think about it as mere human mortals, is what someone once told me, so that message is only possible because 200,000 years ago, who or what whoever intervened to give us? our humanity left a message to tell us and it is only now, when we are possibly on the brink of a global war, this is the year 2024 in the spring when technology is developing so rapidly and we are encouraged to give away our humans and literally replace our bodies with artificial substances and chips and Ai and Gene therapies only now that that same technology comes full circle and says this is who you are, maybe it wouldn't have meant the same if we had discovered it 50 years ago.

When you go back and look at our oldest and most treasured Traditions, we have always been told that our body is the temple, that we are a temple and this gives a new meaning to the temple because within a temple there is usually something precious and Sacred and within us there is a message from who or whatever is responsible for us being here telling us that we are Eternal God within the body and I believe that our greatest Mastery what we are asked to do is preserve the temple that contains the message. do not destroy the temple, do not abandon it, become a hybrid being where that message no longer has meaning or not.

I don't know if it makes sense or not. Think it is so. I don't talk about this much in interviews. but I think this is where we are as a species right now, thanks for sharing. I think that's a really important avenue to continue to open because just to summarize where we were when we talked about this event that occurred 200,000 years ago we're not sure what happened, but it's one in 10 to the power of 600. I think I heard you share. Can I clarify this? What I signed to say is that when the probabilities of something happening are 1 and 10. to the 400th power it is impossible to have the genetic arrangement that we have they say it is 1 and 10 to the power of 600 if 1 and 10 to the power of 400 it is impossible 1 and 10 to the power of 600 means that it is more than impossible that this is a natural Lucas flu or that it is a lucky accident if there is intentionality Point 0000 42% are the chances that this happens purely by chance so we can say that there is something like scientist.

I have to say this and I realize that I am crossing a There are many traditional boundaries to do this. I have to say that there has been an intervention now where this becomes really interesting. As an amateur archaeologist, every culture I have studied I have not studied all ancient cultures, none of our indigenous ones. Our ancestors say that we are the product of slow, gradual mutations over a long period of time. All from I. I have led groups in the highlands of central China and Tibet. 12 monasteries. Two naries for more than 26 days. We did that until the borders closed.

The Bedwin in Egypt The Sadus in Nepal The Ketua in the Aborigines in Peru The Aborigines throughout the American Desert Southwest We all have a creation story that says we are the product of an intervention that we are much more than we are not what we have been told we are. We are much more than we have been led to believe and that we are part of a global family. We have a global family waiting for us when we reach the point where we accept our humanity when we embrace the The deep truth of what it means to be human is the gateway to reunion with a larger family.

This is interesting because we now know that in recent times, in recent years, there is a disclosure process that is trying to happen. at the government level among us, disclosure means something that means to CNN, you know, or Fox News or MSNBC, uh, the reluctance to present the evidence that's being presented. I think one of the reasons for this is because once you really admit what we all suspect that we have that communication, that we have technology, uh, from Beyond this world, it opens the door to our origin and the truth of our origin. and to the power of our Divinity, which goes against the narrative.

Divinity is about expansion and freedom. and a localized life of health and healing, what is being thrust upon us right now is the contraction of centralization control and you don't hear much in the mainstream about body care, it's here, take this to fix the body that you have broken by living. the life that we have given you by eating the food that we have given you or what they call food, then it is a very, very different narrative, so everything we are talking about even comes down to what is happening with the disclosure and everything it's part of once it happens that talks about our Divinity that talks about the battle between good and evil that talks about the freedom of our humanity so it's not separate from I think it's a big part of it and that's why there's so much resistance In my opinion, one man's opinion, yes, of course, we are exploring things here that we don't know, we are examining several different possibilities of something that is beyond the seemingly impossible of having happened 200,000 years ago, but. in some ways there is consilience around all of these ancient sites and civilizations, from the ancient Sumerians to the Egyptians, um, that have similarities in their creation story, even the book of sefr yeter from the book of creation that provides this ancient text Hebrew that shares a kind of eyewitness moment of what happened in that moment of Creation with the understanding that you know that these are all possibilities.

What do you think might have actually happened 200,000 years ago? What type of intervention would possibly have occurred? You know these representations exist. of these beings with elongated skulls um, there are several stories from different ancient wisdom traditions that say several different things, but there are many similarities, so, um, what do you feel, to the best of your ability and with your knowledge, what could you have done? It happened well from a scientific perspective. I think a form of genetic editing occurred that we were infused with. It goes back to chromosome number two, which I didn't say because it wasn't part of the topic at the time.

Chromosome number two is the fusion of two pre-existing chromosomes that were in primates here on Earth at the time, they were not humans, so 200,000 years ago it appears that the most evolved species on Earth was selected and infused with genetic material from a more evolved superior species that we call gods. and we are the product of that, we have the muscular strength and we have the bodies, the physicality and the sexuality of the life forms that we are here on Earth infused with the DNA and now keep in mind that the DNA is the antenna. so we are attuned to information and a way of knowing and a way of being that is more than was ever available and cannot be for those other primates because their DNA antenna is different, they are attuned to something very, very different, so we are already a hybrid of what our ancestors called human and God or animal and God and the product is human human is this is this hybrid and you know, depending on the text you want to go to, you know, just complete of the stories about how this happened from different perspectives, whether you call them angels of the heavens or gods of the heavens, and you know all kinds of stories about that, but they are very clear and these are the books. in the 4th century, the books that were left out of the Christian canon are called apocrypha and these are books like The Book of Enoch, for example, Red Wheel Wiser is a publisher that has republished the Book of Enoch and they asked me. write the trailer for the new release and I did and the Book of Enoch is not an easy read um it's not a long book but it's a story of the prophet Enoch uh exactly what we're talking about the angels in the heavens uh that came to observe and protect they actually fell in love and fell in love with uh with humans and that was the fall that was the Descent that was the fall from Heaven and they began to procreate with them and we are the products of that, so when we look at the panorama general of light and dark, good and evil, I mean, it goes very deep in all of this, but that is developing, I think in our lives right now, I think if I had the chance in the 1990s Before his death, I was on tour with Zachariah Sitchin and he wrote the Chronicles the Earth Chronicles books and he talked about this at length and I want to be very clear.

I think he was an incredible scholar. I don't agree with everything. his interpretation, um, of the text of the form, he believed that we were created to be a slave species to do the work of extracting elements on this planet that were necessary for another race, we may have been enslaved at some point in our past . I don't think that's the reason we were created. This is a very important distinction. I don't think that's why we are the way we are. It may have happened to us because of those. We may have been enslaved by those who have had power. us and there are stories about how that happened and when it happened, but this is a fundamental difference.

The fundamental difference between Sitan and me is that he thought that was the purpose of our existence and I don't see any evidence of that. I think we are, we are much more than that and it's a very deep conversation about why we were created, who we are and what this creation is really about, but the bottom line for me is that we now have the science. that tells us that we are more than lucky in biology, yes, and I think that is important and now we know that there is literally information encoded in the DNA of our bodies, you know what the scientific articles say once theyJapanese scientists demonstrated in 2007, now what they say.

What we are saying is that DNA is a denser storage medium than the flash drive. No energy is needed to retain information once it is imbued in DNA, and as long as an example of that life remains alive, that message will remain for thousands of years. millions of years old bacteria that are resistant to radiation are now being stored in the United States Library of Congress in case we ever, God forbid, have a nuclear war and all our information will be erased if the bacteria survives and if we have a computer that is preserved that can extract it, we can start over, this is how deep this information is, how deep it is, so I heard you share about these 5,100 125 year cycles and five of them would equate to the procession . of the equinox and what humanity might be like in this cyclical, non-linear time, can you share that?

I can and I'm happy to do it, but I think the new discoveries are showing something even deeper than that and I'll just mention if you want to go there, we can, uh, I think beyond any reasonable doubt, what physics shows is that we're In a virtual reality, we are in a simulated experience or Stephen Hawking before he died, this was the last, the last mission he wanted to carry out. to know if we are living in what he called a base reality, is this the reality or are we a derivative of a base reality that is happening somewhere else?

Like Nick Bostrom in 2001 put together the first algorithm with a lot of variables and uh, to determine what the odds are that this is a virtual reality and the conclusion is that the odds are much higher than that we're living in a simulated reality. uh, physics, our physics actually makes more sense, there's not much to us, we're pretty. A lot when I say that we are empty beings I don't say it from a spiritual perspective, but when you look at an Adam, an Adam is mostly empty space and we are, that's what we are, a lot of empty space and in those atoms one of The amazing experiments that were carried out at the beginning of the 20th century were called the double slit experiment.

I know many of our viewers are probably familiar with this. What they discovered was that a particle will behave differently when it is observed and when it is not observed. if it is not observed it is an energy wave, when it is observed it collapses into a reality particle in simulation theory, this is fascinating Andre because as a computer scientist I know that when you build a large simulation it takes a lot of memory in a computer to keep the whole simulation present when you're not using the whole simulation, so what if you have a computer game?

When your avatar opens the door to a room, only when they open the door to that room does the room appear because it would take a lot of memory to always have that room there if no one is using it that seems to be the way our world works this is what the double slit experiment was showing if if no one is watching is pure energy and also just Recently the Nobel Prize for local realism was shown to be false, exactly, yes, the Nobel Prize for this and now, well, the central point of Simulation Theory, what is important to me and where it relates to the Indigenous Traditions that you are talking about, as a former computer scientist.

Now I don't actively do it. My job was pattern recognition software as a senior computer systems designer during the Cold War years and one of the surprising things we found in terms of simulations is that they run in CY, so you have a simulation and then What happens in the simulation are applets that run these loops that restart to keep the simulation going. The era of the end of the Cold War in the early '90s, when the concept of fractal mathematics and the BR mandal set was an example of fractal mathematics really became fashionable and the interesting thing is if you mention one of those fra.

You can go on, you know, you can Google it and a little, you know, a little model will pop up where it keeps getting ever and ever closer to the fractal. The way it works is that there is a very simple formula. that gets set up where the response becomes the input for the next iteration and all you do is add, increment, maybe one, increment by one, feed that back into the equation and now that gives you a new image and you're doing through a computer keeps things going it seems like we live in something like that we know that nature, as complex as it may seem, is actually very simple and is based on a few fundamental patterns that our ancestors called platonic solids, e.g. , and all of nature is based on those Platonic solids and we know that our world is holographic that the whole is reflected in each piece we know that it is entangled there was a Nobel Prize for entanglement that was awarded a couple of years ago and we know that it is fractal and what that means is that there are just a few patterns that feed into this equation, this iterative equation at different scales, so, for example, you look at an atom, an atom, the old model of an atom where there's a nucleus and some electrons. that move around it look a lot like a solar system with a sun and some planets that move around it look a lot like a galaxy with a black hole and, you know, the universe and the galaxies that move around it around they have the same pattern. just a different scale and this is the way a simulation will work and this is the way our world would work, what our ancestors told us is that from time to time we go through what we would call a reset and I think that It was in 2012.

The phenomenon was identifying that in the Mayan calendar what makes this really interesting is that a lot of people don't know that this is 2012, it wasn't the reset. 2012 marked the end of a cosmic relationship, an alignment with the ecliptic of our solar system and the Sun and the Milky Way, but you don't stop a cycle in the moment, you don't stop it at noon, you know, on December 21 there is a window intermediate in which you go from one to the other and there is a mathematical formula that tells you how long it lasts. the window is for 2012 it's a 36 year window 18 years before 2012 18 years after 2030 is the end of that 2012 cycle is when we really move to a new world now the Mayans told us they said uh you're not going to recognize your world you will not recognize yourself you will no longer recognize your land and everyone said ha, you know and now it is difficult to recognize our world our borders are changing our borders are changing our nations are changing and we are changing in 2030 turns out to be the year that the UN has set as a goal, against all odds, they want those sustainable development goals in that year, why that year, why not, 2035, you know it or not, why not 20, you know, 2028 or 2029, are on and the world economic forum is targeting 2030 and a lot of people are looking towards 2030, something is coming in the year 2030 and the powers that be are jockeying for a position of control and power before something happens, uh, and I think the May calendar is giving us an idea of ​​what to expect as well as Hindu traditions, we are definitely in the cuga and you know, the different phases of the kuga.

I was with some of the native traditions of North America, as well as the Hopey prophecy. Rock uh shows we've had two big shakes in our past, they call them the first and second world wars, there's a point on their petroglyph timeline that we've already passed and in front of us is a third big shake and when I asked them to the elderly in the past I say, what does that mean? What is tremor? Does that mean a war? And they said we don't know, they said it's a change, um, but we don't know for sure what that will mean when I'm in Yucatan. and I talk to the Mayan elders and we look at the Mayan calendar, it shows four worlds before ours, 5000 year cycles and then the fifth world is that face right in the center, each of those four worlds has a petroglyph that describes how that world . ended then there was a world that ended in wind and one that ended in fire one that ended in ice and another that ended in a flood and I say well the petroglyph in the middle that face how is the end of this world and they said it is the petroglyph for the movement and I said what does that mean and they said we don't know.

I said, are you talking about how the earth moves or is there a change in the earth? They said it could be a movement of Consciousness. be a movement of people a migration could be a movement of the earth we don't know, we just know that that is the petroglyph for movement, they are very honest about it, so those Traditions that everyone points to at some point in our lives The future close is a kind of energetic reset and this is part of a larger conversation. If we're in a simulation, it makes sense that from time to time we'd go through some kind of reset, not the end, just a change. and I think what we are all learning is to be the best version of ourselves by accessing our Divinity celebrating our Divinity our imagination our creativity uh I use this word a lot the deep truth of what it means to be human our healing our love our forgiveness, all those qualities by making us prepared for that reset when it happens instead of being afraid of the reset and trying to defend ourselves or somehow, now there are scientists who believe they can stop the reset, uh, they want to change, there are scientists who believe they can stop reboot. proposals right now because we have the technology, they want to change the orbit of our planet to change our relationship with the sun and the center of the mky way so that we change our relationship with time, in my opinion there are some things that we should not mess up Well, the human genome is one of those and the Earth's orbit in space is wild, well, it's wild, but it's an example, it's crazy, Andre, it's like kids playing with toys, they unlock enough of the mystery to be able to modify that mystery without thinking it through without thinking about what the consequences are is this a responsible thing is a moral thing to do we have the right to do this and uh and this is where I take the hits with some of my scientist friends because I think there is a moral imperative to preserve our humanity and observe the planet to preserve the planet just because we can doesn't mean we should, so the simulation conversation is very revealing of the ephemeral nature that is our reality and I think it's very interesting. and we also briefly mentioned how these, you know through your penis geological era, the comment strike and the end of the civilizations that occurred before, the consilience between the Sumerians of ancient Egypt, many of these point towards this mother civilization and, um, civilizations that had much more advanced technology than many people in modern academia would like to explore right now, but I think it's really important because, in many ways, time and this kind of humanities and this cyclical flow What's to come is also what I've experienced in the past in these ancient civilizations, so I just want to reflect a little more on these ancient technologies and civilizations that might have existed and that also point to what happened a couple hundred ago. of thousands of years and, um, what do you think?

Yes, what do you think is a great possibility for these ancient mother civilizations? The Earth is not what we have been told and our past is not what we have been told and we are more than what we and I have been led to believe. I think everything is being revealed right now. I think some of the most telling evidence is not even on Earth, but on the Moon, and on the Moon itself. There is a growing body of evidence that suggests that the Moon is an artificial body that was designed. I just did a video about this recently in an interview and I mean, it's fasting, one of the things, I mean, it's so deep that I'm not even sure where to start.

One of the first things scientists noticed is that we all know the Moon is covered. in meteorites, the big ones, the small ones, that overlap, but do not go down from a certain depth, they are hitting something that does not allow them to go down from a certain depth, in the 60s and then again in the 90s, scientists did things that they did not They were really not supposed to happen on the Moon, one of those is that they sent a missile in the '90s to the Moon to a crater, a very specific crater on the Moon, there is a lot of controversy about what happened, but when that missile shocked, uh. seismic recorders detected that the moon was ringing like a bell for hours, which is not what a solid planet would do, uh, and there are reports that have been declassified through freedom information.

You can find them, find them on the Internet, um, the samples that the astronauts brought back. I had the opportunity to tour with Ed Mitchell in the '90s and before he passed away, he was the founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Six men walked on the moon and we went to the moon and he walked. the moon uh, I'm not sure where we wentexactly the first time exactly like we said, but we've definitely been to the moon. One of the things they found when they brought back the soil samples is that there are materials in those samples that do not form in nature, they are artificial materials, metals that do not form in nature and are in the soil, the orbit of the moon.

It is anomalous to any other moon of its planet in our solar system in that it is offset enough to create the tidal movement of the oceans that keeps the Earth relatively stable and there are indigenous traditions. Andre, this is fascinating, I don't know how deep you want to go into all of this, but they talk about time as deep as possible, well there are writings, there are writings out there before they talk about the time before the moon existed and Before the moon existed, the tides were horrendous, they were 400 foot tides that would come and wipe out the land and they do.

It was on a rhythmic basis and it was a very unstable environment, the Moon is what stabilized that, but it can only happen that other moons are aligned with the equators of their planets, our moon is not aligned with our equator, it is the only one that is not it is. is offset at the right angle to stabilize the ocean, what are the chances of that happening? You know only by chance, the number of lunar circumferences between the Earth and the Moon. I didn't know we were going to talk about this. I don't have the exact numbers right now, but there is a very specific relationship: it's a geometric ratio of how many moons fit between the Earth, uh, the Moon, the Moon and the Sun.

I think it's 108. No, I'm thinking it's 108. because it is tied to Buddhist traditions and that is 108 are the beads in the Mala and I mean, it goes on and on, there are so many factors that strongly suggest that the Moon is designed and, like the two moons of Mars, uh dmos and Phobos, which are smaller and non-spherical, but they also appear to be hollow and designed, uh, who was around the engineering moons, you know and how long ago that could have happened, and I think about all this when we look the as a geologist, okay, I didn't know we were going to talk about this, so we'll do a deep dive here and I'll start at the center of the galaxy.

Every once in a while there's a burst of what's called a barrage of cosmic energy coming from the center of the Milky Way, uh, cosmic rays through the solar system through the galaxy, including our solar system, cosmic rays generally They are no big deal, since we are receiving cosmic rays right now and because there is a lot of space between our atoms, those cosmic rays pass through us, no big deal, we are receiving them right now, they are all the center of Our planet is so dense due to the pressure of the planet and is so hot that when those volleys of cosmic rays hit the center of the Earth, they cannot pass through it and what they do is end up heating the core.

It's called disturbance. Uh, and the core actually heats up and changes its location. when you look at the cross section of the earth, here is the core of the earth, which is believed to be iron and nickel, a solid core of iron and nickel, recently, in the last few months, geologists believe that there is a core within that made of something even denser, they don't know what it is, so right now the core of the Earth is dense iron nickel, that's the inner core, the outer core is a molten core and the inner core floats in that outer core and then beyond that. we have the mantle which is about 1,800 miles thick and then beyond that we have the crust that we live in it's only about 36 mil thick the average depth of the ridge is about 36 miles so when Those cosmic ray discharges enter, they cannot pass. the core what they do is they heat it up and it starts to change its rotation and where it is in the molten outer core where those waves those disturbances then translate into the mantle and the mantle starts to rise towards the crust in places where In the past, generally not It's done it along fault lines where it's thin, the crust is thin and where it's weak, so scientists have now done it and I have pictures of these.

Look, there are what are called mantle columns where the mantle is leaking this molten matter and there is a big plume in the Pacific and another one just below the Middle East below Turkey and Pakistan and where big earthquakes have occurred and another one just below In the Pacific, where there are earthquakes, they are also occurring right now , so this is where it becomes interesting that the cosmic ray discharge occurs approximately every 26,000 years and the cosmic rays take about 26,000 years to travel from the center of our Milky Way to reach our Planet 2012 was actually talking about the discharge of cosmic rays entering the Earth, when this happens, it warms the Earth from within and this causes climate change.

It is very controversial. Humans are not causing the climate change to which we are contributing. We have to do it because we are throwing things into the atmosphere, but this is what the oceans are producing, the CO2 that scientists are measuring and let me give you some ideas. About 330 gigatons per year come from the ocean. About 43 gigatons come from us and our cars, I mean you. I can see the magnitude and the oceans are actually warming from below if it were human cause CO2 the atmosphere would be warming the oceans from the top down that is not what is happening the glaciers are melting Greenland melting from below Antarctica is melting It's melting down from below uh the scientists who know this, it's been politicized and it's hard to talk about it instead of creating a war on climate change that we didn't cause, in my opinion, what we have to do is strengthen and there are things that we can do to mitigate that climate.

For a change, we can bury our electrical grids, for example, so that they are not susceptible to the cold or you know, hurricanes or whatever is happening, but this is something we can expect in the next few years, more earthquakes. and we've seen more earthquakes of magnitude six or greater in the last 20 years at these plate junctions, so in the Middle East there is a triple plate junction, three plates coming together just below the 7.8 Turkey magnet. and then they had one in Pakistan, I think. it was 2019 or 2020 it was 7 7.6 or something like that and it's almost once it happens on one side like in the Pacific you'll see it happens on the other side too so the good news is we're in California right now and We are at one of those plate junctions.

The good news in California is that underneath the way our plates come together, you don't normally get a big earthquake, what you get is a continuous, low rumble that you can't tell where one stops the other. one starts, but they're all magnitude one to two, maybe three, so there's a constant release of energy, which is nice instead of everything being quiet and building up and all of a sudden you know you don't want to. that, so we know. This happens approximately every 12,000 years 12,000 years ago. It creates a lot of volcanic activity and every 12,000 years we have what is called a supervolcano.

We have one that occurred 12,000 years ago. We have one that occurred 24,000 years ago. You can go back and see and it's that super volcano that's pumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere that's actually causing the cooling that we're heading into now. The Earth is actually entering a cooldown and you realize that they are not calling it. Global warming, they don't use that term anymore because they know we're cooling, they just call it climate change, so we've seen a history of this, this relates to what you're talking about: ancient civilizations rise and fall and have been destroyed. During the times that we have gone through these great changes, some of them, we now find them under massive landslides, for example, there are satellite images that show on the west coast of the United States, the river.

It flows from the Rocky Mountains into the Pacific, for example, and beneath these massive mud flows they are finding archaeological remains of advanced civilizations. People who want to talk about Antarctica are an example. The ice covering Antara at this time when the Earth was warming. The ice was melting allowing the satellites to penetrate the ice and what they found were not primitive huts. They are complex and massive archaeological structures. If you go to Google Earth right now, there's a big chunk of Antarctica that's pixelated and they won't let you see. I have pictures before they pixelated it and you can see it in archeology when you see a 90° angle nature doesn't carve 90° angles so the wind is called Uh aolan erosion river erosion water erosion they never happen at 90° angles and what There are huge 90° angles of huge complexes under the ice and some of them stick out of the ice, big walls, as well as four-sided pyramids, two, two kilometers by two kilometers by two kilometers by two kilometers, the huge structures that are there below. and the ice has been there for 20,000 years, so you say well, or someone as a scientist has to say this, or someone built on the ice or those structures were there before the ice formed and these that the ice happened two years ago cycles 12,000 years ago. so we're 12,000 to 13,000 is half of one of those cosmic ray blasts so you get the minor burst and then you get the full blast so when we look at the history of the Earth what we're conditioned to do.

We go back 5,000 years and say civilization started 5,000 years ago, that's the most recent cycle of civilization and you can actually plot them on a graph. I've done this, plot them on a graph and you see the incin and the The Aztecs and the Mayans, and you know, Rome, Greece, Egypt and Samaria is where we say it began about 5,000 years ago and they teach us that that is the history, the history of the world, what is the history of that 5,000-year cycle. Now you go back and If you look at the new discoveries, Beckley teepe over 13,000 years before the present, um, the Great Sphinx in Egypt is now dated to around 9 9 to 12,000 BC.

C. before the present, certainly, the pyramid, the water marks on the pyramid show erosion, uh, when, since when, melted ice, that means the pyramids were there when the ice melted, you know, 12 ago , 12,000 years, so there's a whole history that's starting to unfold that goes back, I think, much further than we've been led to believe now that you look at the texts you look at the list of kings, for example ancient Sumeria, and what you see is really interesting. Andre, are you familiar with kings? No, it's an archaeological remnant, it's a Stella, the beautiful Stella, uh, it's in cun form and it lists the kings. that they have ruled and some of them ruled for periods of thousands of years and then it clearly lists the great flood and then the rulers afterwards began to rule only in terms of decades or multiple decades.

Now the interesting thing about the list of Kings is that from the time of the flood onward each of those rulers their names the time they ruled is correct it is absolutely accurate the times before that the archaeologists say well that is a story because no one could live until the 900 years no one could rule You know, for thousands of years no one could live that long, so they don't accept what happened before, although they do accept it because what happened after is archaeologically proven. Well, when you compare that list, that's an archaeological example to what we see geologically that now you're starting to tell the full story: there have been advanced civilizations and if we were to believe the Surian texts, they were seeded in another world and they are responsible for our genetic intervention if that's what you want to call it and this is what Siten was talking about and others have talked about this too so I think Antarctica is the big reveal right now there's a lot of conversation about it it's really interesting because During the Cold War it was declared neutral that no one could own Antarctica.

World War II, Germany began to build military bases that the United States, now China and you know many countries have military bases. Iran has recently claimed Antarctica as Iranian. an Iranian continent and this just happened a couple of weeks ago and, you know, I think, but they won't let people go down there, if you try to go down there as a reporter and go into the interior of the continent, you're not allowed to do that. to go to the mainland, uh, people I know who have been there, what they say is that once you get through the ice on the perimeter, uh, that's not what's happening on the inside, it's a desert, 0% humidity, I don't even know what that is.

It feels like there is no magnetic field there because of the way the magnetic poles are in the middle place. It's a really interesting experience to feel what our bodies are like because we are deeply in tune with the magnetic fields, what would it feel like to be? in the absence of a magnetic field, you couldn't take a, you know, your phone, your computer, things like that, I probably don't think they work there, so you couldn't, you couldn't do a FaceTime from where that's happening. but I think theEvidence suggests that these changes occur so quickly that everything that is in place is frozen in time, is locked in time, so, for example, in Siberia, as geologists, we have seen this for years, the woolly mammoths that now it's um uh them.

They left but there are and it's not just one or two they found many there they were like in the middle of a step and they were frozen or they still had grass in their mouths they hadn't even swallowed the grass and the The temperature dropped so fast that they just froze instead and then they were covered with the glaciers that seemed to have happened in Antarctica, it was a lush green tropical continent, and until one of these changes occurred and when the changes occurred around the world. of the geophysical parameters, the wandering magnetic poles and all those things, whatever is there, are frozen in place, so presumably we can have the most intact archaeological remains of ancient civilizations, wherever they came from, including its technology, its propulsion. systems, their crafts, their agriculture, all preserved in the ice and I think that's the controversy, that's why they don't want people there, are you familiar with the con gerief, the philosopher gief, okay, we were talking about him the last week? when he, so I won't go into details because you have to watch last week's podcast who talked about that last time Robert Gilbert Robert okay, yeah, he talked about a place in the Middle East, in the Far East actually. a monastery um where he went to learn what it is that he learned that there are other monasteries um when after the crucifixion of Jesus the aces were persecuted and fled to the four corners of the earth, they went to the highlands of central China where it is now In Tibet, they entered North America and there is evidence that in the southwest desert there is a whole conversation about them going to Egypt and entering a part of South America that is near the border of Bolivia and Peru.

A very dense jungle and there are two monasteries, one is an outer monastery where if people are lucky enough to find it, they will be allowed to leave the inner monastery. The way they keep it a secret is that if anyone ever finds that monastery, he's invited. to stay for the rest of their lives and they are not allowed to leave and that is how they keep it a secret and the way to get to that Monastery is through a native village in the southern part of Peru and it is highly protected, very protected . It's so fascinating right now that there's so much mystery around Shambala around these temples and ancient sites and I heard there's one in your basement, that's right, yeah, that's out here, uh, man, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we just to open there.

I think about all of this ultimately and I would love to do our best to tie in where we started this conversation with all of these Reflections on the possibilities of these ancient civilizations, it just points out to me at least how much we don't know how. To a large extent, the standard model has really closed off the potential of these realities and reflects the true nature of who we are, where we come from and that also points out where we are going and what we must protect within our own humanity that we were. Talking to before, sure, so help me tie this back to where we started and then what we're going to do is take a break soon and we're going to do a second podcast that's coming out next week, when we launch this one and we delve into the human potential, the intelligence of the heart and let's really unlock it, so yeah, I'm going to back up, you know, I think we covered a lot of details. great story, same story and there are many interesting paths we can follow.

I think it's important not to get lost in that search. Don't get lost. I'm sure some people are fascinated by Antarctica and think that's the whole story but that's a part of the bigger story and I think the important thing and the way I'd like to close out what we're doing now is that We are the story, we are the prize, we are the prize and I started saying this and now maybe it makes even more sense, there is a fundamental battle between good and evil that is unfolding to capture our Humanity because our humanity is the conduit to our Divinity is ultimately a battle for our Divinity, but divinity is not. something that you can touch and hold in your hand, the human body, the temple, it's so the battle that's unfolding has been unfolding in all the civilizations that we've talked about in different ways uh different levels of power different levels of control different levels of fear different levels of transcending that fear not surviving but transcending that fear and it all comes down to our humanity and our willingness to accept how rare how precious how special how sacred we are as a species and, in my opinion, worth preserving.

I think there is something in the midst of all the dysfunction, all the pain, all the anger and all the suffering, there is an Essence that I think is worth preserving, one of the things that psychologists have discovered. is that we are actually a kind, gentle, benevolent species and people look around and say what are you talking about there are three conditions in which we will betray our true nature our true nature is kindness forgiveness I think we all feel that we are good We are a good species, we are good people, when we feel personally threatened, we will attack and betray our true nature and hurt others when we feel our families or loved ones are threatened or when we feel our way of life is threatened.

We will betray our true nature and you look at all the war, all the pain and suffering in the world and it all falls into one of those three categories: people feel personally threatened, their families or their way of life is being threatened. said this in a beautiful way maybe this is how we will close it they said that the only difference between the angels in the heavens and the angels that walk on this Earth is that the angels in the heavens remember that they are angels and What that invites us to Consider is that we are literally the Angels that walk this Earth and that we have lost ourselves in our pain and suffering and it is through our Divinity that we transcend the Triumph, we do not gain the triumph over all that, but everything.

It starts with honoring the gift of our bodies and I think that's the invitation we all have right now Greg, you're an incredible communicator of these ideas and really being able to distill them down so you can explain them in simple terms. what's going on and there are so many mysteries and avenues we can continue to dive into. I mean, I could talk to you for 12 hours straight about all of this and I'm sure we will in due time, but that reflection is very powerful that maybe we are Angels on Earth who have

forgotten

and we are in this process of remembering and I would love for this next conversation people to tune in next week to reveal that process of remembering, so thank you so much for diving into this conversation with me, thank you for sharing. the trip and allow myself.

I'm realizing that I talked a lot more than you, so thank you for allowing me to answer short and long questions. I look forward to the next one. I could listen to you all day, so I'm happy and excited. to continue to dig deeper everyone who is tuning in, thank you for tuning in and letting us know how this episode uniquely impacted you. I'm excited for you to tune in next week to continue this dialogue between Greg and I thank you for coming. this trip until next time and continue