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Woman In Coma Has Near-Death Spiritual Awakening & Realizes WHY WE ARE HERE | Anita Moorjani

Apr 11, 2024
Not everyone gets to experience

death

before they die. What an experience like that does is it changes your value system before the diagnosis. I never allowed my own voice to be heard and I was diagnosed with cancer. He had tumors the size of golf balls. It was then that the doctors told my husband that these are my last hours, I went into a

coma

, I left my body and I understood why I had the disease. It is not a physical problem, it is much more than that. You have to bring all these elements if you really want to heal.
woman in coma has near death spiritual awakening realizes why we are here anita moorjani
You need to create a life that you love and one that you want to live Start saying no to the things you don't want to do and then start saying Yes to the things you've always wanted to do It's important to love yourself like your life depends on it because that's how it is. Hello everyone, welcome back to yourself, today we have the privilege of sitting down with someone who is an author, a speaker, a teacher and someone who had a near-

death

experience that fundamentally changed his life and the way he lived it. goes through and now shares his story and the insights he has gained from it.
woman in coma has near death spiritual awakening realizes why we are here anita moorjani

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woman in coma has near death spiritual awakening realizes why we are here anita moorjani...

Anita morani thank you for being

here

thank you very much for inviting me yes, what was your life like before your cancer diagnosis? Um, and we'll dive into the whole experience and the nuances, but I'm just curious for you to set the stage a little bit of what life was like for you before the disease struck, so I lived in Hong. Kong, uh, I was married, I'm married to my husband Dany and, uh, life I would say was almost normal. I lived a normal, ordinary life. I'm ethnically Indian, um and I grew up. I went to a British school.
woman in coma has near death spiritual awakening realizes why we are here anita moorjani
I grew up in Hong Kong. Kong, which is predominantly a Chinese city, so although I grew up very multicultural, I lived a life in Hong Kong and one of the things I want to mention about the type of person I am and I definitely was more is that I have always been someone who He is a people pleaser, very conflict avoidant, and lived a life w

here

he was often painfully shy, very, very shy. I considered myself quite introverted and I was someone who also feared a lot of things because I grew up. in a culture with Indian parents where I was prepared for an arranged marriage but ended up not getting it.
woman in coma has near death spiritual awakening realizes why we are here anita moorjani
I actually ended up running away from a wedding three days before the wedding, which was a big deal, but I was always, uh, being an Indian

woman

in my culture, I was always discouraged from being myself in my culture, especially during the time I grew up, it may have changed a little now, but from the stories I heard, not all Indian culture has. changed, but anyway, growing up, women were more repressed than men, our value was measured by how valuable we were to the men in our community, so a daughter was raised to obey her father and live in house with her parents until she got married and then she would be her husband's responsibility, so a

woman

was never encouraged to be independent and for this reason I was discouraged from pursuing higher education or having a job or being independent while I was someone who really wanted to be independent I wanted to get a job I wanted to make my own money and so on um and I can talk more about that later and how it affected me in the near death experience, but basically that was my life, but then I met this amazing man, Dany, and uh, we had, we were having an amazing life together, um, but I was diagnosed with cancer in 2002, which was lymphoma, so what was the timing of the diagnosis like and is it possible? give a little nuance of what type of cancer how aggressive it was what stage it was in so it was diagnosed at stage 2B lymphoma 2B means it had spread so it started as a lump on this side of my neck uh uh and be when stage two means it had spread to only one part of my body, so it was in this quadrant of my body and, um, the reaction was very mixed when I was diagnosed, going back to what I was saying about me being someone who was a people pleaser, very non-confrontational, um, I was someone who was always there to be of service to everyone around me to help everyone around me and I never allowed my own voice to be heard and my best friend He was diagnosed with cancer about a year and a half ago.
I was half as old as before and I was devastated when she was diagnosed and hers was an aggressive form of cancer and I made myself available to support her on her journey. I literally put my life on hold because I was so close to her. like a sister to me, I knew her all my life, we knew each other all our lives and I would feel so guilty if I went out and had fun while she was sick in bed or in the hospital or getting cancer treatments, so I literally put my life on hold even if I went shopping for clothes I would feel very guilty trying on nice clothes thinking she is dying her life is ending and here I am having fun I couldn't even go out to dinner with friends friends who were mutual friends but Now she was too sick to go out with us so I put my life on hold and even when she was very tired and exhausted I was there for her when I was diagnosed with cancer so at first it was a shock but strangely enough. the next feeling was oh now I can take care of myself, it was almost like this diagnosis was giving me permission to take care of myself, so what was your reaction when deciding how to cure it?
Obviously, there's the western alpath you know suggesting. chemotherapy versus ayurveda which you also explored and, uh, what followed after diagnosis led to eventually reaching

coma

, so what happened next? At the same time that my best friend was going through her illness, my husband's brother-in-law Danny. He was also going through cancer, so it was interesting that there were two other people very close to us who were the same age as me also going through cancer and they were both being treated in some of the best cancer hospitals in the world. to have the best treatment, the Best Western treatment, let's say that money can buy, so my first reaction was that it was not working for them because their health was deteriorating, they were both deteriorating and, to my eyes, it seemed as if every Once they were going to get treatment, their health would actually degenerate, they were actually getting worse and not better, that's how it seemed to me, so I said I wasn't going to get that Western treatment because that was the first thing they recommended to me. and it was the usual thing is you go to chemo and me and I was looking at this and I said no, um, it doesn't make sense because it's not working for them, why would it work for me?
I'm going to try everything else, so I approached the diagnosis from a perspective of uh, I'm going to try everything and see what works now. I want to say something else here also before the diagnosis while I was watching because both people were diagnosed at least a year and a half before me. I was watching them go through what they were going through. I developed a fear of cancer, a really big fear of cancer. You know, I was one of those people who just feared things easily. I feared disapproval and now I feared cancer. And so I made it my mission to do everything I could to prevent cancer, so I kept hearing all these fear-based messages, which you know, that you hear in drug ads and in magazine articles, that a out of every three people will get cancer and, um, cancer. is on the rise and now microwaves cause cancer and using plastic containers causes cancer so to me it seemed like everything caused cancer so before I was diagnosed I was already living a life to do everything I could to prevent cancer , but I was doing it from this place of fear, so I was living a life where I was afraid of cancer and doing everything I could to prevent it, so I was eating very healthy, but I was only eating organic, which I still do, but uh, but.
I was eating only raw vegan foods and was very careful with everything I put in my mouth. I was taking a lot of supplements that were anti-cancer antioxidants and I was doing everything I could to prevent cancer and I got Di. I was diagnosed with cancer because my life was very focused on avoiding cancer and when I got the diagnosis I was surprised because I thought I was doing everything I could to prevent cancer and so I kept exploring different things and then I got into Ayurveda for a while too. I went to India for a few months and when I was in India I was in a completely different environment.
I was in an environment where everything, um, everything, I guess it's the whole mentality. Around cancer it was very different because I was in an environment where there were people who were yoga students, ayurva students and they approached things very, very differently and in this particular environment, the belief was that cancer itself It is not a disease, it is not something to be so afraid of, since each disease is just an imbalance in your body, so the idea is to explore and discover what the imbalance is in order to balance it and that is what what would we do.
I would get up and do yoga movements and then I adjusted my diet and what was really a pleasant surprise for me was that the variety of foods in the Ayurvedic diet was much wider. Now I could suddenly eat things I was afraid to eat before. um, you know, I was because I had been told that I only needed to eat raw, vegan foods. Now I was eating all these cooked vegetables, rice and everything, and I was eating dairy because I was following my constitution in the Ayurvedic system, so I actually thrived on that for a while and I was doing this for about six months and I improved considerably, so I had these tumors, you know, that were growing in my lymph nodes and they started to shrink, they started to soften and shrink over a period of time and I felt like I was ready to go back to my house in Hong Kong, so when I came back to my house in Hong Kong Kong people told me: oh wow, you look better and this is better and everything was so much better.
My husband was very happy and I tried to get on with our lives, but upon returning home to Hong Kong I was once again faced with my best friend was getting worse, much worse, she was deteriorating and now it was imminent that she was going to die, my brother-in-law. I was also getting much worse and it was imminent that I was going to die and as this was happening to me, all the fear started to come back, all the fear of the cancer and the people around me. I want to say here that the community in Hong Kong didn't believe much in anything other than conventional medicine, so I felt like everything I experienced in India was taken away from me as soon as I returned to this environment and that's why I participate in the things I teach now.
I always say that your environment is very important when considering your well-being because the people around me said that, so what did you do? I told them what I did, ARA and everything, and they said they would poop. It almost makes it sound like, oh, that's bullshit, it's not real medicine and you need to look for real things, you need to go see an oncologist and, in my opinion, what they were saying didn't line up because they were saying that. If you don't you're just being dumb, you're being stupid, you need to go see a proper doctor and in my opinion those aren't real doctors.
I was watching two people very close to me doing what they were doing. saying and they were dying while what I had just done had made me feel better but I started to fall for everything they were telling me and the fear came back and then being with two people who I watched until the end and they died and that surprised me. I thought wow, this is really a deadly disease, it's a killer. I better take it more seriously and then, um, and then when I went, I started to notice that the tumors started to come back and look.
Now I know it's because of the environment I was in, but at the time what I was was what I believed because I was made to believe that, oh yeah, what you had wasn't permanent and that's why it's coming back and then you know I was . and to the oncologist and we went all the way and they said oh it's too late to save you, it's very aggressive and everything, so now before we go into the coma and then the final experience, there's just a couple of Golden Threads that I think are really important to reflect on because both the cultural suppression of their expression and their authentic desires and what their Curiosities are if they are repressed, especially in conjunction with the broad umbrella of fear of fear of death, fear of cancer or the disease it prevents. something in In some ways, you're already in resistance to that very thing, so I think it's just an important reflection and knowing that by having your nde experience, now connecting the dots, looking back, you can see how much inauthenticity is directly related with the cultivation of diseases.
Any thoughts before we move forward, yeah, no, I think that's a very good direction to go in because it's, um, the lack of authenticity, the fear, all of that is what led to my illness, absolutely the repression, all of that, Yes, most of us, on some level, are. Dealing with some kind of suppression of something due to childhood or cultural situations and that, at the more subtle end, can make us feel a little more anxious about life or, in the future, cultivate a deadly illness, and then what you do? You say you support people and give yourself permission to be your authentic self, in an environment that may not allow you to.admit, so most people don't even know how important it is to discover your authentic self, so that's the first part.
I even need to know that your soul came here with an intention that you don't even know and that is one of the keys to my message: I want you to know that you have a purpose, a mission, a reason. an intention that your soul chose to come here to this life to this body you know being born from these parents to this family to this culture to experience this there is a reason for it and your only job really your only job is to discover that reason in other words, discover the intention of your Soul and even if you If you find yourself stuck or in a situation where your culture represses you, everyone experiences that on some level, not only when we are growing up but even after we get older, when having children when we are married and so on there are things that you feel that Your hands are tied and you can't do it because since you have other obligations it is still important that you are aware of who you are and why. you're here and you really are and you really discover ways that you can express yourself in a safe arena all of this like everything like um what is your soul intention what are your beliefs what are your

spiritual

beliefs what works for you what doesn't work for you is very important to know all these things and I never knew it before and the most important thing is that I didn't know that if you suffer from a chronic illness um and I'm not talking about end of life illness so let's say prematurely like when you're going through life and suddenly illnesses hit you um and we think that we are victims of our illnesses, what I realize is that that is not usually the case in most of the cases that we bring is about ourselves and the things that we should consider an illness is not a physical problem is not a physical problem it is much more than that it is a

spiritual

problem it is an emotional problem it is a problem of repressing yourself it is an existential problem You have to bring all these elements if you really want to heal and that is what I discovered.
It is an important reflection because many people can do all the right things, they eat all organic foods, they sit in front of a red light, they get the sun. I know like all the bioh hacks in the world and yet if the place it's coming from is a resistant fear based energy, like what you're talking about, there are all these psycho uh emotional dynamics that really have an effect. in our biology to uh, that's much more important, many would say you just know what's true and I think it's right, like eat, eat healthy, do the things that are going to be nutritious for your system, um, but do it out of love for yourself.
That's exactly the difference is that eat healthy but do it for the love of yourself and if you don't love yourself and you don't love your life and you hate what you're doing then even eating healthy isn't going to benefit you but when you love yourself yourself and you love your life you will want to eat healthy because you want to live long you want to be healthy so you can continue doing what you do but if you waste your body it will be able to handle it, yes, another thing that I think can be a trigger for many people who are currently going through a chronic illness or maybe have a dear friend or a loved one, a parent or a sibling who has a chronic illness listening to that.
On some level, as we choose, this can be very triggering, in some ways I chose this illness for myself, so I'm curious that you've been through this and I'll delve into your experience of having greater awareness to see how, on some level, You needed that to be able to refine and truly discover your authentic self. What do you say to those people who feel provoked by that thought? Okay, so first of all, I wouldn't use the word chosen because I didn't choose it. Usually what I'm saying is take responsibility for it, but it's not your fault, you didn't consciously choose it, um, whereas if you don't take any responsibility for curing it now, um, when we don't take responsibility, what we're saying It's that I am a victim of this and when you are a victim of something you are left defenseless and when you are defenseless that is when there is nothing I can do about it because I am a victim of this situation, it happened to me, I cannot control it.
What I'm trying to say is that no, you didn't choose it because you were doing the best you could and whatever you were doing caused this, but the reason it came about is because of certain things, actions and choices that we made in our lives. that got us to this point of having this diagnosis, but we can look back and reverse engineer it. In other words, I don't want you to be a victim of your illness because we are actually one of the things I discovered. is that we have more autonomy over our lives than we have ever been led to believe that we are conditioned to believe that we are victims our systems our dominant media the way we are raised leads us to believe that we are victims of our circumstances you know our culture and so on, and I can even talk a little bit more about how we can change the perceived restrictions that we feel and the repression that we feel.
We can change that, but, um, our systems, as they are, everything down to our culture. Social conditioning, the conditioning of our school systems, etc., leads us to believe that we are victims of our circumstances, but in reality we are not, yes, we are so fed by this cultural phenomenon of recent years, including the pharmaceutical industry . it took 75% of the advertising budget, billions and billions of dollars, like in my case, it's so insidious and criminal in my eyes, you know, and we feed into this constant fear narrative, so apart from , let's dive into what you know against your best efforts still in 2006 you woke up or went into a coma and you were taken to a separate hospital and tell us through that experience now what it was like going into your final well so basically February 2nd 2006 I didn't wake up like this I want to describe how my body was at that time, so the doctors had three months, actually six weeks before this happened.
The doctors told my husband that I only had three months to live and that I had tumors that were the size of golf balls that were from the base of my skull, around my neck, around my neck. , under my arms, on my chest, all the way to my abdomen, my body had stopped absorbing nutrients, so I weighed about 85 pounds and I was 5'4 so I was very skinny at 85 pounds. I was like a walking skeleton, except I couldn't even walk because since my body had stopped absorbing nutrients, my muscles simply atrophied and deteriorated completely, so I had no strength in my body. at all and I couldn't walk so I was in a wheelchair or in a chair or I was lying down, but even when I was sitting I didn't even have the strength in my neck to hold my head up, my head was always hanging like that and I had to literally be propped up but when I lay down so my lungs would fill with fluid by the way uh and when I lay down I would choke on my own fluid like I had to have my lungs drained every three or four weeks the fluid that was building up in my lungs, that was my condition and I had these open skin lesions where toxins were coming out of my skin, they were like open wounds that had to be constantly cleaned and disinfected. by the nurses so I was in a very bad state, I was in a lot of pain, a lot of discomfort and a lot of fear and then on February 2, 2006, I went into a coma and that's when the doctors told my husband that these were my last hours and they act, they basically said I wouldn't be around for more than another 24 hours tops.
I probably wouldn't make it through the night and that's when my family was really distraught. Dany was there at the hospital. Mom was there and my brother, who was in India at the time, was flying, he was getting on a plane to come see me because he wanted to catch me first, I mean, he was distraught, he heard the news, but I was in a coma. and I left basically, I left my body, I felt like I left my body and I felt amazing, so even though my physical body was in a coma, my physical eyes were closed and my physical body was lying in that hospital bed .
I felt incredible. Because I was no longer in that body, it was like I had stepped out of my body and I was aware of everything that was happening in the room, but I felt light and free and just incredible, better than I had ever felt in my body. life before. Have I ever um and felt enveloped by something that I want to say, I call it unconditional love, but there are really no words to describe it. You know, when I just say love, we use the word love too much and it just doesn't capture what I felt, it was euphoric.
It was like um powerful free. I felt really amazing, but I was no longer attached to my physical body and I wanted my family to know that I'm okay. I was even aware that my brother was trying to get on a plane to get there. to me before he died and I even thought to myself that I better not die or my physical body doesn't die before he gets here otherwise he will be very angry and yet I realized that I couldn't communicate with them because I didn't do it. I had vocal cords that I didn't have, I wasn't in my body, so it was a strange sensation, but it still felt really amazing, um and I felt like I could see and hear everything that was happening around me, but I wasn't using my physical eyes because I didn't have physical eyes I wasn't using my physical ears it was something more powerful it's like you didn't have to turn your head to look I had 360 Dee peripheral vision and I could see and hear everything The doctors said like the doctor was telling me husband that "we just have like she can't even make it through the night" and even told my husband that her organs had now started to shut down, her kidneys had already failed, "we." I've had tests done, but we already know that the kidneys have gone bad because the toxin, the toxic buildup, is now happening in your body, so they were talking about me and I could hear everything and, um, they were saying what the doctors were saying. her body is swelling and this means that the kidneys have already stopped working, they were even talking about things like if she came out of there, we don't know what shape she would be in, you know, so it was very distressing for but I wanted them to know that I really feel fantastic.
I'm fine. I'm fine, but there was no way to communicate it with them and the vision was not with the eyes, but was more like pure consciousness. I limited how much I could see and I started to become aware of other things like I, it was like I could see my brother on the plane, really distraught to hear that I was dying and, you know, it was and then I started doing it. like my world was expanding even more and I became aware of other beings that were there to help me in this process um and what I felt from these other beings was nothing but pure unconditional love and I recognized some of them as my loved ones deceased like my dad, my best friend and you know, I always thought that when I crossed over one day I would be judged for some of the things that I had done because I was always very hard on myself and I thought that I had let my dad down and I had run away from a marriage fixed and it had caused a lot of shame and in my head I had done a lot of terrible things in my life, but when I crossed over all I got was unconditional love and there was no judgment and here I was with my dad and it was his Essence and my Essence um and I was ready even for my dad to judge me because I had disappointed him so my dad had died 10 years earlier so um I was ready for his judgment but not all I received from him was pure unconditional love like he understood why I was like was and why had I run away from an arranged marriage and it had brought him a lot of shame because I literally ran away from a marriage three days before the wedding after all the guests had come and everything and um I realized while I was there that when we crossed um We not only leave behind our physical bodies but we leave behind our culture, our religion, our beliefs and all the baggage that we have accumulated throughout our lives, we leave it all behind and the only thing that crosses is our Pure Consciousness, our Pure essence. or I like to call it pure love or we can even call it pure God, we can call it God.
Divine Consciousness is part of us, that is what intersects and I always thought I was just a victim of my culture, but there my spirit and my father's Spirit clash, so to speak, I realized that, for much that he was a victim of my culture he was a victim of his culture of the same culture doing the best he could and the only thing I felt from him was unconditional love. Can you share the warehouse analogy because I want to get a little bit more into the texture of your experience, if possible, of what it's like to feel so vast, you know, because I think people sometimes have experiences of something similar, whether it's in deep meditation or in an altered state through breath work or psychedelics, um, but this is unique because it was extended 36 hours, yeah, and um, you had that vastness of consciousness with your Consciousness and that you could remember things once you You finally got back to the things that were happening right now.around you, that you know someone who is in a coma and who doesn't have access to their five senses that you think you couldn't do, yeah, so, I like to use analogies because there are no words to describe the experience itself and what I experienced in the other side and I use the warehouse analogy to explain that, um, if you can imagine. that you were navigating through life with just a small flashlight in the dark, so everything around you is pure darkness and all you have to navigate in this darkness is a small flashlight, so all you can see is what you you illuminate with your flashlight and so that as you go through life or you go through the environment that you are in you are lighting the way and your entire world, so to speak, is just what you can see with this flashlight because everything that is Outside this beam it is pure darkness and so it runs through the world, but imagine one day these great floods.
The lights come on and suddenly you realize you're in this huge space. Let's say it's a huge warehouse for the sake of analogy. Um using, to use an analogy, you're in this huge warehouse that has these shelves like high. floor to ceiling shelves and this warehouse is so big that you can't even see the end of it and the ceilings are very, very high and you have these rows and rows and rows of shelves and these shelves are lined with all the different things like things with colors that you've never seen before and products and items and even experiences and books and places just exist on all these shelves and many of which you've never heard of before and there are a few here and there that you've seen and you've heard of BEC and you're aware of them because your flashlight turned them on even when it was dark and that's why you are aware of it, but now what you realize with the lights on is that there are many more things and experiences than you ever realized and that there are many more experiences, probabilities and possibilities than you have ever experienced, so now let's say the lights go out and your back is to a flashlight.
Again, with a flashlight, you now know that even if your flashlight can only see this, that's not the only thing that exists, so all these other things that you saw that you never knew existed, these are all possibilities, in In other words, there are millions of possibilities. simultaneously, but because our flashlight only shines on one and everything else is in darkness, we believe that this is the only possibility and that is life, so the flashlight is a metaphor for our consciousness, so when your consciousness is being conditioned that this is the only possibility this is the only way to live you are a victim of these circumstances and you are a victim of this and either this is the only way to heal or this is the only method this is the only path to God or we can apply it to anything when you are conditioned that there is only one way: your flashlight shines on one thing without realizing that there are many possibilities, so what I realized is that there are many possibilities simultaneously, but very often most of us.
We live as if only what we and we are being conditioned with exists, and when that possibility doesn't work for us, we become traumatized, depressed, anxious, and lost. I think it's a really important experience to experientially savor the vastness. of our own Consciousness and the infinite number of ways in which not everyone will have a near-death experience, but in experiencing the immensity of the expansion of your Consciousness, as you said, once you experience how vast it is now, you cannot go back to a spot. something like that will always be with you once the Mind expands, it cannot go back to that point, even if the focus of your consciousness is now focused on any task in your normal daily life, you know that you exist in this sea, um that.
It's so much vaster, like you said, it has so many more possibilities and it keeps that open mind, it's so common, so you had this experience, you went into a coma, you go to the hospital, you're aware of everything that's going on around what people say. . what people are doing, they are drawing fluid from your lungs, you experience other beings, a connection with past beings, you are in this inner space, luminous, blissful, euphoric, unconditionally loving and then did you have any idea of ​​the consciousness of the illness and then? like the choice to come back and come out of the coma took us through that, okay, yeah, so in that space I understood why I had the illness and I understood how it came to be that at that moment I was lying on it. in a hospital bed dying and I understood how every choice and decision in my life had contributed to this happening and so I came to a point where I was given the choice of whether I wanted to return to my body or not, now I am not part of I wanted to go back because my body was sick and dying and suffering and I thought no, I don't want to go back to a suffering body, but I immediately had this realization, it was like a state of clarity.
I had this realization. that now that I understood what caused the illness, my body would heal very, very quickly, I only understood that it would because my body was like it didn't need the illness anymore, um and then it was very clear that my body would heal. and I started to better understand why because I still wanted to know, yeah, but why do I need to go back, and that's when I started to understand that I have a purpose and my purpose hasn't been fulfilled and I didn't. I completely understand what my purpose was, but the key message is that you have a purpose and if you are shortening your life you will not fulfill your purpose, no matter what your purpose is, you can go back and figure it out.
But we're not telling you what your purpose is, but you have a purpose and if you don't turn back, what I understood was that my husband's purpose, Danny's purpose, is linked to my purpose, there was a reason we were together. and if I didn't come back, he wouldn't be able to complete his purpose either, so there was a deep understanding of how we are all interconnected and any decision I make will affect other people around me and I also gained this understanding, you know, because the other thing is which I was questioning because it was almost like she didn't want to come back and I even felt like I went as far as to feel that if Dany doesn't complete her purpose, wouldn't she come and join me there, but I realized that we had made this package to come and complete this purpose together, but also because my kidneys and my body were already shut down, so I thought they had also shown me that if I chose to return to the test.
My kidney function results would come back showing that my kidneys were actually not completely dead, they were actually functioning and could be cured, which was reversible, but if I chose to stay on that side, if I chose not to come back, the test results from the La Test that had already been done would come back showing that I had died due to kidney failure and organ failure, so the test results would show that my kidneys had failed. So you go back and they take fluid out of your lungs and then you start. to open my eyes, so actually what happened was my dad was the one who really told me, "You have to go back and live your life without fear" and I started to have a vision of what my life would be like if I had it. a purpose and the purpose involved talking to a lot of people now I want you to understand how incredulous it was to me someone who was a painfully shy people pleaser happy to hide behind other people's shadows that wasn't who I was but there I was seeing this vision of me speaking in front of thousands of people um, I didn't know what I was going to talk to them about, but um, then my dad told me, um, so, I thought, what is that? and then my dad was like you don't have to figure it out just go back and live your life without fear and it will unfold now to live my life without fear means to be myself without fear that's all I had to do was be myself and that's why the My father's last words to me was to go back and live your life without fear and that was when my eyes began to open now during life it was my dad who instilled fear in me while I was growing up but in death it was my dad who freed me from scared um and that's when my eyes started to open so you came back and you felt like you had one foot between Both Worlds and what happened to your physical body when you started coming back in the next few weeks so after I came back, First of all, I was really stunned and I was telling my family, so my brother was there, he had gotten off the plane he had taken there and I was like, oh, I knew you were on the way and then I started saying Dad is here, Dad is here, it's not my time.
I'm not going to die and everyone thought I was delirious and um and they called the doctor to come in and when he came into the room it was now the doctor who had only been on duty since that time. I went into a coma, in other words, he had never seen me before the coma. I had never seen him before the coma, but as soon as he came in I addressed him by his name. I said good afternoon, Dr. Chan, and he said, how do you know my name? You've never seen me. You were in the communication and I said really and because I had been seeing him the whole time and um and then he said uh, he you know and he started. to tell my family that it is common for them to open their eyes from time to time, but remember that she is still in critical condition, her kidneys are still failing, blah blah, so he told my family not to get their hopes up and then he left the room and I told my husband.
I told him why he was he. so surprised, isn't that the doctor who said that um, I would be that, that I wouldn't even be able to make it through the night and that's when Danny said he didn't even say that here in the room, he said it down the hall at the station. nurses You can't possibly have heard that and um and then what started happening is the next day my kidney test results came back and it showed they said they had come and and and the doctor came in and said I have good news for you, his kidneys are working and I just said I know and then my tumors started shrinking really dramatically, like in four or five days, they shrank by about 60 70%.
I started insisting that I want them to be taken. They removed all my tubes because I had a feeding tube, an oxygen tube. I had all these tubes and the doctors were very hesitant to remove them, but I said no. I know I'm fine. Now I can breathe. When they took the liquid out of me. my lungs that last time while I was in a coma never needed to remove fluid, it never built up again and they couldn't understand what was happening. My doctor even did the you know gesture when he came into my room. says I don't even know what to write in your medical record he made the gesture of throwing it into the waist bin the trash can in the room he just said this should go here I don't even know what to write anymore um and within three weeks they were having a hard time find any trace of cancer in my body and within five weeks they let me go home and live my life cancer free, so wild and never to come back, yeah, so what have you done? by that I mean it sounds so miraculous and it is and yet there is this place within us that I think we all are and we have access to that um has that ability of healing potential and you were there and you experienced it. which for 3 six hours you know and then H, what was it like just sailing back into the 3D world just having this experience and then I also want to dive into how sometimes our cultural memory or or like the spiritual language that we have for these? things can color and change the way we interpret certain experiences, you know, and um, I feel like I'm a very healthy skeptic when it comes to a lot of different aspects that people just easily accept in terms of other people's spirituality. . experience and I'm just curious how you did it as I assume you validated the experience.
I mean, you don't need to validate the experience because it was so powerful for you, but you like the interpretation of connecting with certain people, whether they were really there or whether you were communicating in your own recreation of them? How do you make sense of that? Well, in terms of communication or connection, let's say communicating with other people about what happened, so I'm breaking down your question. So first of all, I haven't looked to other people to give it credibility or verify it because for me the gift was in the healing itself, yeah, so the gift was in the healing and one of the things that I learned early on.
I had this euphoric experience, it was amazing and life should have been easy afterwards, but I realized once I had to deal with this Physical Realm that this was the challenge, being dead was easy, living life is the challenge and bringing that experience into this physical life is The challenge and what surprised me is how resistant people are, they were very, very resistant to my thoughts, my beliefs, the way I lived my life, so no one questioned the actual healing because he had the medical records to prove it, but people saw what happened. In their eyes, people were surprised when I left the hospital.
People were surprised because I entered the hospital. Everyone thought I was going to die. Everyone heard that I was in my bed.death um the whole world was like all my relatives all my friends you I know my husband was sending messages to my family, my brother, my sister-in-law, saying please pray for her, please sing for her, depending on what religion they were , so one of the things I think I have going for me is that I grew up. in a very multicultural environment because I went to a British school, I grew up in a Chinese city and I have ethnically Indian parents, so I've never taken on any particular religion as the only true religion, so that's the second thing.
It's just that I've never tried to convince anyone that what happened to me is the truth and that's why I'm very clear when I talk about my experience that this is what I experienced and this is the impact it had on me and then allowing people Take from it what resonates and reject what doesn't resonate, that's how I operate in the world and I never want to mislead anyone about their beliefs because our life experiences are what inform our thinking and I happened to have a close experience. to death which informs my thinking, but not everyone has that experience.
It can be difficult when you are trying to apply the rigor of intellect to dissect and label with language that is inherently already very limited to an experience that is so vast and expansive and that is touching a place of intelligence that is much larger than just our intellect. , as if, and that level of intelligence that you tapped into, did you realize who we are in our true Essence and the nature of God? So I used to believe that God is a being that is separate from us but when I was in that realm I realized that there is no separation that we are a facet of God You Are I Am we are all God expressing herself whatever there is no gender and that kingdom there is no gender um so I realized that we are all facets of God and one of the most shocking things that happened to me after the experience and looking back on my life um I remember this was literally a couple of days after the near-death experience.
Um and I started removing all the tubes, maybe about six seven days into the experience, one of the nurses said I needed to start getting out of bed, walking, using my limbs and building strength again in my muscles. and then she helps me get out of bed and I told her: I want to look at myself in the bathroom mirror. Uh, I need to look in the mirror because I haven't seen myself in a long time and then she takes me. He walks me to the bathroom, you know, I have the IV stand in one hand and his arm and the other and we walk to the bathroom and I look in the mirror and I really haven't seen myself in a long time and so I was surprised by what I saw.
She was much thinner than I had thought. My face was very drawn with my cheeks sunken. My eyes seemed to be bulging out of my head. He didn't have hair. I was bald and I had these open skin lesions on my neck um and I looked at myself and I actually started crying and I looked into my eyes and I cried not out of vanity or anything, but more because it was the first time I saw God in my eyes. own eyes. and it was the first time I realized it because I had spent my entire life pleasing other people and making sure I didn't let other people down and making sure everyone around me was happy and liked me and I needed everyone's approval.
This was the first time. that I saw myself and understood that I do not need anyone's approval because I, like everyone else, am also an expression of God and I saw God in my eyes and I apologized in the mirror and said I will never do it to you. Again I saw what I did to you that caused me to reach this state. I saw that he had really done this to me by abandoning me. I heard you share that in your this experience the thought that God is a being for God changed. a state of being, yeah, and how in a crystal ball or a disco ball we're all like this unique individuation of God expressing itself through all of our unique gifts and creativity and, um, coming back to that understanding now it's like you have a second life contract, you have this new opportunity to create life and this follows this purpose that has not yet been completely clear and realized for you yet, um, but uh, so take us on that journey from the integration of that moment looking at you You see yourself in the mirror seeing your physical body that had been so exhausted but now seeing God in your eyes for the first time and this new perspective of the potential to create in your life, so I knew in that moment that really my only purpose was truly Alone.
To recognize that and allow life to unfold, I made certain commitments to myself, you know, because what an experience like that does is change your value system, it changes what matters in life, not everyone experiences death before You die and that's when you realize that the way I've been living life, you know the most important things were pleasing other people or having enough money to have a nice house and, um, but suddenly none of those things already matter, so the values ​​really changed and I began a search to try to discover my purpose and the purpose I have with Dany.
Now this is the interesting thing. I just want to say that Dany was by my side the whole time holding my hand and I couldn't wait for her to come. back and he never left my side he was even in the hospital bed with me and um he would do it and you know when I would say even before I went into a coma when I would say I'm dying and he would say no you're not and I told him what are you going to do if I die and he said I'm going to come look for you I'm not going to let you die not under my watch you're going to die and so when I Later I told him that you know that your purpose and my purpose are linked and that if I die you will not be able to complete your purpose and he said he knew it and I told him you know it and then what is your purpose? your purpose and he said yes my purpose was to bring you back and make sure you were still alive so if you died I wouldn't have completed my purpose but yeah um but yeah back to your question of unraveling everything after the fact that it was so.
It was not easy at all, it was not easy because I lived in a culture and I realized that the culture that surrounds me, the community, the culture that you know and the people, are lovely and well-intentioned people, however, the values ​​were very , very different because I lived in a culture where people were very hard-working, were raising families, or were working hard in high-paying executive jobs that I no longer cared about at all, and very competitive. I lived in a very competitive culture and so did they. I didn't see any relationship between the purpose of our life and our well-being and you know it was purely to achieve as much success as possible, it doesn't matter if it's hard work, it doesn't matter if you hate your life, get the country.
Club membership, etc., and none of those things mattered to me at all anymore. I was more interested in discovering and I was interested in the Visions I had when I was on the other side, like me and speaking in front of people. That's not me and yet when it happened it felt so good, it felt so good um and but in the beginning when Dany and I felt like we had to walk away to find ourselves, it was like we were both having the experience together, That changed both of them. us and we had to walk away a lot of people thought we were not being realistic that we needed to face life we ​​needed to look for a job again and what are you guys doing and why are you wasting your time and I was really lucky that you had the second chance at life so make the most of it now, but I couldn't.
I needed to write, so that was the first thing for me. I just needed to write and write and write and it felt very cathartic. Everything I experienced on that side kept coming to light, so the subsequent journey, which was kind of a short story, while you were writing a lot, you got on the nde website, you finally started sharing your story more and you were discovered by Wayne Dyer, yeah, who really committed to Writing the Foreword to Your Book I'm Dying to Be Me and we went on tour with him, right? I have something to share, so it's up to you to do the things to write the book and I believe that these mentors, guides, angels, come into our lives, Wayne is one of them to help you create a platform and put your story on the map and give it wings to fly and share with people you've worked with, you know hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people now, so whatever you want, plus you want to share about connecting with Wayne and the writing of the book , so the writing of the book became organic again.
I had never been an author before. I never thought of myself as an author, but it just happened organically because I was writing and writing and writing from the moment I had the near-death experience and So, I didn't even look for a publisher or anything, but Wayne discovered my book on My Story, sorry, on the Internet and asked their editor to track me down and I got an email from them on my birthday and you know. The story that went viral on the internet was on an nde website and it didn't even have my full name on it, it was just Anita M's nde and someone printed it out and gave it to Wayne and he even told me that um he said. that, in general, people give him things all the time, they give him papers and they give him things, books, he never reads them, sometimes he reads the first two lines and then throws them in the trash, in this case he said that I started reading the first few lines and he grabbed it and said: do you know that your online story on the nde site in print consists of 20 pages of single-spaced notepaper?
I said no, I didn't realize he said you had me captivated from the first word to the last word, so he contacted hey house and said you have to track this woman down and you have to get her to sign a book deal, get her to write a book and he said um and he said don't put her through the vetting process or anything because I'm going to write the foreword and I'm just going to promote this book and put her on the New York bestseller list. York Times, so basically he was ordering them to Hay House, not asking them to check me out or ordering them to get it and they didn't even realize that it took them a few months to track me down, they didn't even realize that the day they found me It was my birthday that year and then I got this email saying that Wayne Dyer found out about your story and asked us to track you down and we'd like to ask you to write a book that we would publish and he would promote, so I read it and I started crying, I thought this is what my dad meant, that it will develop, it will just develop and I had been being myself in the sense of not going back to the old life.
I made you see, the thing is that the previous life is what killed it. Me and I couldn't go back because the old life is the one that gave me cancer, so I had been authentic, I had been living my life the best I could simply through self-love and here this book deal just landed in my lap . on my birthday so I responded right away and said thank you oh my gosh I can't believe this. I hope this isn't a joke or something or spam, but today is my birthday and she responded right away and said, uh, you.
I know she said she's the editor in chief or something and she said no this is real and happy birthday and they made the process really easy for me and then Wayne and I were talking on the phone until they flew me there and I want to just share this piece, which was the first time Wayne had me on stage, so they flew me from Hong Kong to Los Angeles to speak at an event in Pasadena where Wayne was speaking, so the event had about 3,000 people in the audience. and they were broadcasting live to thousands more, so he's on stage first and um and he's sharing with the audience, he says, and there's this woman from Hong Kong who had cancer and was terminally ill and was about to die and he says.
He shares my story and says we actually flew her here so she can share the story with you and the audience was like what, so I was there in the front row and he made me go up to the stage and me. I went on stage and I was there, they gave me a microphone and I was looking at the stage and I started shaking because this was the scene I had seen in the Neath experience, standing in front of thousands of people. and I didn't know at the time what I was saying, but that was the same scene where I was there in front of thousands of people and I was shaking when I started talking and it was an incredible feeling, like deja vu, like I know this scene and then Wayne said you're shaking, you're scared and I said yes of course I'm scared.
I had never spoken in front of an audience this size in my life and I never thought I would have to and he said. What do you have to be afraid of? You've been dead and back and I said Being dead is easier than public speaking. Amazing, what a beautiful turn of events, your story is so powerful and the whole rebirth process feels like you are. reborn from that experience in many ways and I know firsthand that even the simple thought and mental exercise of contemplating your own mortality can bring a sense of immediacy in the presence of what you really value, what really matters, what I'm living through. .
Alignments like these things we really stress about in our daily livesthey seemingly become tiny on the grand Horizon in the realization that we are going to die and anything else that can help people achieve that. I guess Recon considers and pays attention to what their values ​​are, which ones are most important to them and their own mortality, and they like the reminder that we're going to die because most of us walk around like we're not going to die, yeah. We forget, so one of the things I realized is that the most important value is love and I know we overuse the word love and it sounds a little weird, but if there was another word I would use it. but love really is the most important value and it begins with self-love.
It is really very important for us to love ourselves because only when we love ourselves can we truly give the highest quality of love to the people around us. People, you really aren't doing people a service when you don't love yourself. One of the things I also learned is that we need to know where our energy is. Energy is very important. I think what really, again, this is my interpretation and my language and I'm going to use the word energy, but I wish it was a different word, but we're not physical beings, we're actually spiritual beings or energy beings and we don't care.
We realize. I think we are just these physical bodies and we operate as if we only have five senses and we live in this three-dimensional world, but in reality we are much more than that, much more, we are actually multi-sensory beings and we live in a multi-sensory world. -dimensional reality and these guides and loved ones are there as I know for myself and I know they are there for everyone, even if we are not aware that they are, we simply cannot see them with our physical eyes, but they are there. things happen behind the scenes all the time but we go through life as if that whole part doesn't exist as if all we are are five sensory physical beings in a three dimensional world that is the illusion that is not true we can turn those warehouses the lights go out come on at any time, but we just have to be willing, we just have to be open to it, it's unfortunate that we live in a culture and I think it's changing, but certainly, for the most part, when I was a kid, we lived in a culture that sees anything outside of the 5th century 3D is crazy and out there and people who only focus on material sciences and academics are seen as more intellectual, it's unfortunate that those who are seen as intellectuals have completely discarded anything beyond our five senses and these three. dimensions because we're missing out on a lot, so I know it's changing particularly for generations like yours and younger people, it's definitely Chang in, so it's very encouraging, but if people knew, because right now, for example, our political system, our medical system. all of these operate as if we were five sense three dimensional beings, they don't take into consideration that there is so much more, um, and so we live from this place of being a victim, a victim of our political candidates and a victim of our medical conditions when we don't.
We are, once you realize Once you turn on the warehouse lights, you know you're not a victim, yeah, I wish we had the ability to turn on the warehouse lights on a large scale, you know there's something, there's a distinction . here with how you know because you talked about self-love and this need to love ourselves and in your experience you not only had the shift to I need to love myself but you actually experienced yourself as love, which I think it is the change in this scene of personal development and self-improvement where you are just trying to always improve incrementally and there is a change that is like the spiritual understanding of self-realization to really discover who you are in your innate Essence that is always there and not is something. you have to achieve it because you already have it so you find out or you realize that you don't like Garner it um and any other words you have for people to die before they die to realize themselves as love um for those who Ya you know, and to continue on this journey, you know outside of your first experience, how have you maintained this state of consciousness?
I'm sure you have ups and downs like many of us, but in order for people to like it, how can you invite other people? continue to savor this in their lives, so first of all, you will go through ups and downs. I go through ups and downs, so that's one thing and being okay with the Downs, just living through them, getting through them and knowing that you're going to get through this um, the other thing you need to know is that when you constantly strive to be better, do better. , do more as one of the consequences that I say of all this self-help self-improvement is that in reality the message you are sending to yourself is that I am not good enough, I need to do more, be more to be better, that's why I I tell people to be careful with that because you are good enough, you are good enough and it stops sending you the message that you need to be. more do more maybe you need the opposite message maybe you're actually doing too much maybe stop, so for people who are struggling right now, the default seems to be where am I going wrong?
What do I need to do more? I go, I do this work, I do a lot of this work and I shouldn't feel like that right now, so we look for the next course or the next thing to do, my suggestion would be to stop, just stop and maybe it's more. it's a case of undoing and it's more a case of, in other words, being authentic means letting go and undoing a metaphor that I like to use is one of, you know, Michelangelo, the sculpture, the artist, the sculpture and he used to carve these beautiful sculptures. of angels only from Big Stone Rock and he just chiseled and carved and there was an angel and when someone once asked him how he manages to carve these beautiful angels as if he had no plans or architectural drawings, nothing and he said: The angel it was always there.
I simply chiseled the Rock to free the angel. Basically, that's a metaphor for us. Free yourself, you don't need to just chisel away all the work and all the things. Free yourself, free yourself when we. We constantly believe that we have to be controlled like, for example, even um, when we learn, even our teachings always teach us that it's necessary, even particularly religious teachings, that people need to be controlled because if you let them free, um, we do it. It would be chaotic, but maybe not, maybe it would be beautiful because what you are releasing is a bunch of souls that are facets of God that are allowed to be released, to be expressions of God, trust that you are an expression of God, even If you're going through a period of depression, even if you're going through something that doesn't feel good right now, allow yourself to just be there and don't feel like you have to work through it.
I think we're talking about this energy of bringing this willingness to explore and let go of what we are not and as you had in your final experience of This Life, review of being what brought you to that point, it's like how can we bring? that review of life and that realization of how precious this life is right now so that we don't have to wait for the screams, we can hear The Whispers before they become screams. Yes, exactly, exactly, if you review your life correctly. Now, um, and what I do when I'm going through a downswing is I actually check my energetic state and, in a way, that's how I would suggest people check in, you don't have to die in one of them.
The reasons I even share what I share is because I think everyone should be able to do this, you don't have to die and I'm not trying to make God do, and I want people to know this before they die. I think people should do it. Let them be taught this. I think they should know this from a very young age because it can help them know that you are so much more, so an easy exercise that I tell people to do is to check your energetic state and if you would just close your eyes and imagine that you are an energetic being and that an energetic being has an oric field, um, and if you allow your imagination to run wild, how big is your energy right now?
How big is your oric field? So if someone was really unhappy, depressed, depleted their oric field or their energy would be very small, it would reduce, but if someone is living their passion and loves their life and is in love and happy, their oric field is their energy. It would be huge, it would be really huge now if you had the ability to see your own energy and other people's energy, that would be very helpful because you could immediately see, oh, when I do this, when I go here, when I hang up. with these people my energy is reduced but when I do this my energy expands if you could be aware that this is really happening this is real this is really happening whether you can see it or not, whether you are aware of it or not, that was one of the things I learned, this is happening with my energy, so when I say yes to something, I really want to say no, but I do it reluctantly, but I don't really want to do it.
The energy field is shrinking now if you live a life where your energy field is shrinking and low and every day you are doing nothing to expand your energy field, but you like to go to a job that you hate or having a relationship that doesn't work. For you and you're in this monotonous life, it will eventually physically appear in your physical body when we don't give ourselves the opportunity to listen to what's really happening within our own internal dialogue, what's happening within our own biology, so it's like that. . like we talk to those, the whispers start to turn into screams and we develop a chronic illness or something that really forces you to look and some people still don't look at it, they still don't look at it and they and they transition to the next one, yeah , they still don't look at it because they still believe that it is just a physical medical illness for some people, but yes, with the energy field what we also do is we tend to believe that if I pursue this if I have this reward if I have this goal I will be happy and we found out that we still aren't happy but if you could see your energy you would know what makes you happy and what you would do is you would only do things or pursue things that expand your energy field, so in the world we live in today For example, we revere people who have tons of money, they say, fame and fortune, but we have no idea what their energy field is, maybe they are really unhappy, if you could see the energy, you would revere people with enormous energy fields and you wouldn't care how much money they had or didn't have, so basically it's just an exercise that I give to people, no matter where you are in life, what you're doing is just checking your energy field.
I discovered it at least in my personal life. I'm sure you and many people resonate that it's less necessary to do something than it is to create space just for you to pay attention to what's already there. I have a saying that when you stay silent, what needs to be heard becomes loud and a space is created just to pay attention and as if attention is our spiritual currency, what we do with our consciousness, the focus of our Awareness, to pay attention to what is happening inside. our own mind, heart and body, um, we can discover things that will save us a lot of suffering in the future, but that will also keep us in line like Michelangelo, you know, undermining the sculpture of the sculpture of our being, um, it's just I think which is a powerful invitation for people to create that spaciousness and begin to listen to what is happening within them.
Yes, exactly, 100%. It's just that there is some other understanding that they have had about past lives, previous incarnations. Lots of different opinions people have about what it is. The reality is this, but I thought you had an interesting distinction about the nature of time. I would love for you to share a little bit of yes, so I perceived that time is not linear on the other side. Of course, this was also confirmed. to me because of the test result because the tests were done and the results would be determined uh the results would be determined based on whether I chose to come back to life or not, even though the tests were done so time was not It's linear, literally, the results.
It can be changed depending on my choice, but from what I realized, for example, about reincarnation, I had Hindu parents. I also grew up believing that reincarnation is linear, you live one life and then the next one is determined by how you did in this one and so on. It's sequential what I realized when I was on the other side it doesn't work that way my understanding of it was quite different from what I had learned and it's not like I did something wrong in this life or something bad um I'm going to be punished. in the next life.
No, all of our lives together are dedicated to inventing a soul's experience for my soul's experience. So I use the analogy of a building, so when I was on that side I could see multiple. lives but I saw them clearly not as sequences sequences of one after another but simply oh inthis life I was like that oh in this life and they were all there with the same clarity and I saw the future of this life if I chose to return to this one that is what awaits me, but if you imagine, let's say, a seven-story building and each floor It's one apartment and seven floors and if you enter this building you can only be on one floor or inside an apartment at a time, you can't be in all seven apartments, but you can only be in one at a time and then you have to leave that apartment to go to the next one, but that apartment still exists, but you are, so let's say you are your consciousness and each apartment.
Now it's a life, if you are outside the building you can see the whole building and all seven apartments exist simultaneously, but you can only live in one at a time, but the whole building is what I say, it is the soul. The building contains seven apartments, so the soul has all these lives and the collection of all these lives constitutes the experiences of the soul, but it is not that the soul has to be punished for something that is different from what they did in another life, it is more as if the soul needs this experience to complete its life. um experience as a soul, I find it very fascinating and as an interesting thought experiment at least of the multiple experiences and we have all this what scientists call junk DNA, you know, the ability to store all this memory and um, yeah, I always I love hearing people's experience when they're in that state of what is the reality of where we come from and where we're going um and it's hard to fit into the Western logical mind, it's hard to fit in and that's why you use analogies, um, and so you know that even when people do what they call past life regressions, you're getting access to those other lives in your apartment building, so to speak, you're getting access to the other apartments, you can cause other lives to bleed out.
If it's relevant to this, what would you say? Someone who right now has a loved one or they themselves are really struggling through a chronic illness at the time they're sick, they have doctors maybe telling them that they don't have any left. long time to live, what do you say because me? I'm sure people like this approach you quite often. I want a solution, an answer, a powerful experience, but can't you feel like you keep hitting dead ends? So first I would say a few things. about everything um I would say that uh no one can tell you when you're going to die uh if a doctor says you have three months to live or whatever you don't have much time try to ignore it I would almost go even stronger and say that you need a different doctor because if I can turn around from the stage I was on, anyone can turn around um and that's one of the things I would say is start thinking about what you would do with your life if you had a clean bill of health in this. moment, just imagine that you have a clean bill of health, what do you want to do with the rest of your life?
Because there are reasons that brought you to this point where you're not, um, where you're not. Well, either you're struggling, you have these chronic illnesses, and imagine if someone hated their life and now they have a chronic illness and now you're fighting to stay alive to go back to a life that you hated, you want to start loving that person. the life that you are going to have as a healthy person, that is the first step that you need to create a life that you love and one that you want to live and start living that life and then your well-being is secondary to that start creating life.
You love creating the life that you want to live for the rest of your life and then start focusing on the things that you're going to do to get there and really improving your health is something that you can do, but also. Another first step I would say is to evaluate or this is the second step: evaluate the things in your life that you are currently doing that you don't want to do and start to let them go, start saying no to the things that you don't want to do. that you don't want to do and then you start saying yes to the things you've always wanted to do.
I think a powerful place to summarize is what we've been sharing about you. I feel very connected to your experience. ND about reflecting on who we are in our true Essence, in our true nature, as if we wrote down all the labels of who we are not, that we use to describe ourselves in this suit of human flesh, our name, our cast or Creed, our gender, our religion. all of these beliefs as we begin to settle and let go and realize that fundamentally it is not who we are, but rather there is something, there is a quality essentially within us that is really a more accurate description of who we innately are. , that is, any reminder. that you have to close to continually help people just remind them of who they really are and who they are here to be in the world, so who we really are is actually something or someone much bigger and more powerful than our physical bodies.
Bigger, our physical bodies are like the tip of the iceberg and what I would like to remind people is to live from the iceberg and not just the tip of the iceberg, yes, I think that is powerful, it invites people to remember who are they. as a being and not just this cog in an economic machine or something to fulfill someone else's purpose, but we are here to play an important role in our own unique downfall, we can actually change the world, any of us has the power to change the world in a bigger way than we think and in fact, my third book, Sensible, is the new strong, it's really about meeting people who are really aware that you are much more aware that You are a facet. of God that you are a soul you are enormous you have this power unfortunately these people are the ones that are the quietest and most introverted people in the world and the loudest voices are the ones that are more ruthless the more um capitalists the more um maybe operating more from the ego and so we have a world that is dominated by one set of voices while we need to hear more of the other set of voices, but by its very nature of being so aware of our Divine Consciousness, it actually makes us more introspective and less strong and therefore That makes us feel like we are victims of a world that is being created by the loudest voices, so we need to become aware that just because those voices are louder doesn't mean we are less powerful, in reality we are extremely powerful because you are aware. from a completely different dimension that is beyond this one.
Thank you very much for sharing your story today. I know you've shared it so many times and we were talking a little earlier about how sometimes, by sharing, you know the story of your illness. and I could, I could imagine how I feel, it would dilute the experience that I feel, especially after having, you know, a profound experience, talking about it repeatedly can dilute my connection with it, but I know you've had a lot of time. to integrate and heal and realize that it is important to set the context for what you are sharing with the ideas of how we can live our authentic selves and how sensitive people have the ability to really change the world and so many important reminders of about loving yourself to yourself and who we are at our core and any other last words you have for our audience before we close, it's important to love yourself like your life depends on it because I learned it the hard way, it's beautiful.
The quality that I find when people have these close encounters with death or realize that their own impermanence is this acceptance of the human experience and everything and they like to hold it all, you know, and not separate these physical experiences less than a spiritual one or you know, it's beautiful and I could feel the joy that you bring to the work that you do and so thank you very much. One of the other things I learned that was very important is that I had always done it. I made my decisions from a place of fear, every choice was made from a place of fear and unfortunately we live in a world that spreads fear in everything, even in our educational system it's about the fear of failing, it's about the fear of not getting in in the best schools, etc., and our political system, it's always about the fear that divides us and the fear of them not being like us, etc., and um, every system of us, even our religious systems, religion organized, many of its teachings are based on fear so that you follow this religion versus that religion, but death actually taught me that I need to make my decisions from a place of love which we all do and everything we do we should do because we love to do it because we want to do it not because we are afraid of the consequences and even our medical systems teach us to fear disease, we would have a much more powerful world if people were taught to operate from a place of love instead of fear, um yeah , if medicine and if our health care system taught us what wellness looks like, if all the trillions of dollars were spent on research on wellness and what it means to be well and healthy, we would cure cancer just like that, but for the moment the focus is on cancer, on illness, it is not about well-being and it is the same in all of our systems in our educational system, the focus is not on the passion to learn, but on the fear of failing, yes, It is a powerful note to end precisely on that level. to embrace your life and choose to make decisions from the point of view of what will really matter to you when you are on your deathbed and what you truly feel joy and love in life.
Yes, so many amazing things to reflect on in this. episode personally and I'm sure our audience can connect and relate, so thank you so much for coming on today and sharing your story and yourself. I really enjoyed it thank you, thank you so much for having me Andre, yes, of course, and for everyone who has been tuning into this episode of the know th self podcast, let us know how this has impacted you in a unique way and we are also two people and today we We dive deeper into their story and sometimes I share mine on this podcast, but that's the way it is.
It is truly beautiful to feel part of the family that is forming with people who are Awakening to these realizations in their own lives as well and I am very curious to hear all the facets of the stories that people have, so please share, thank you for Starting this journey and until next time.

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