NON-PHYSICAL BEINGS Reveal to Man the FUTURE of HUMANITY & Our NEW Consciousness | Gary Zukav

a higher order logic and an understanding of the heart that is in the seed of the soul, but this is impossible to understand, but it is impossible to ignore, so there you are, there I was, we will all be when we begin to experience this new Consciousness that does not could be. explained the intellect, your intellect and your mind were designed to analyze compare evaluate assimilate data from the five senses and present it to the personality if it is useful to create external power manipulation and control all that is our past that does not mean that there are There are hundreds of millions, billions of humans who still have five senses, we are no better than them, it is just a temporary burden of evolution, soon we will all be multisensory and those of us who choose will create authentic power and eventually we will all choose because the alternative of living and creating in fear and fear is too painful and too destructive and our desire to give the gifts we were born to give is too strong and you can't do it unless you are in love, you can't do that while in the hands of sh Gary zukov welcome from new it just happens brother, what excites you the most at this moment in your life?

This show me too me too me too it's an honor a pleasure and a gift um to be able to have you here again after almost 2 and a half years since the last time we connected but I felt your energy very present from the day I collected the soul seed brother so I'm excited and it almost feels like right now' We are at a very interesting time in human history, we are at a precipice of time where human evolution is becoming conscious for one of the first times in our understanding of our history, so I would love to start with you expressing what human

consciousness

is like. becoming an evolution that we are now more aware of, that is at the forefront of where our

consciousness

should be, what is so important about the times that we live in now, everything, there has never been a time like this, you know that I've talked about it on your show often, the entire human species is going through an epic and unprecedented transformation.

The old Consciousness is limited to the five senses, to what can be seen, touched, tasted, heard and smelled, and understands power as the ability to manipulate. ular and control the new species the new Consciousness is not limited to the five senses and understands power as alignment of the personality with the soul with Harmony cooperation sharing and reverence for Life the new Consciousness is emerging in billions of us and is continuing and also in billions of neonates that are now being born within a few generations, the entire human species will be multisensory, but the new type of power is not a gift, it needs to be created, it is an authentic power, an authentic power.

It requires you to distinguish within yourself between love and fear and choose love regardless of what is happening inside you or what is happening outside of you. What is happening inside you could be discouragement, hopelessness, despair, anger, resentment as well as gratitude and some wonderful experiences. happening outside of you could be another 911 type event or a natural disaster and being able to choose love no matter what is happening inside or outside of you, that is creating authentic power and everything that my spiritual partner Linda and I Linda Francis and I uh talk about giving events about writing about how to create authentic power and also how to recognize the new Consciousness for quite some time now.

I have been describing the new Consciousness in terms that everyone really knows now, um, if you have the thought, I am more than a body and a mind, that is a centuries-old question, the old Consciousness was from the fifth century, the new Consciousness has another sensory system that is not so limited. If you ever have the question, I believe the world is not random, I truly believe that I can learn about myself from it, that is a centuries-old question and if you know things about other people that the five senses haven't told you and they cannot tell you, that is an experience of five centuries, also of several centuries, but now we are becoming us. you were born in that your generation was born in that it is emerging in my generation and in all the intermediate generations now there are more we are more I will give you an example individuals with the old Consciousness experience within themselves an insurmountable barrier between here and outside that barrier does not exist In the new Consciousness there is no difference between here and outside there is no difference between me between me and others there are no others there is one and everything is that this is the broader consciousness that is beginning to emerge and permeate our consciousness, it is very interesting because I recently learned that what limits most people is the fear of death and that is one of the biggest fears we see in our lives and knowing what this

physical

thing can be. end of the body, how can we really let go of that?

And you talk about this change of Consciousness as the knowledge of the existence of a part of ourselves that is Immortal, so I would love if we could talk about that immortality that we have and what part of us exactly is immortal you need to clarify what you mean by us if you are talking about a personality that means your emelo that was born on a certain day that bears your name and that will die on a certain day nothing about it is immortal however your life itself is an incarnation of a part of an immortal energy and that It is your soul but you are your soul you are an embodiment of a part of your soul but that part of your soul has all the power of your soul calibrated For

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experiences, time, space, matter and duality, you are a powerful, creative spirit , compassionate and loving and, as you align your personality with that spirit, with your soul, you begin to move beyond everything that prevents you from that experience and everything that prevents you from living that experience. that experience is fear now the spiritual path now in my experience does not require crystals or crucifixes does not require statues requires emotional awareness requires responsible choice which means choices of consequences for which you are willing to take responsibility is a journey towards consciousness towards freedom and towards love that is the destiny that is what we are you could say that we and now we means my incarnation in yours and the incarnation of those who are listening to this program we are all on a journey from love to love what happens between the beginning of that Journey and the end of that journey is your life, how will you use it?

That is the question now and when we remember that before we made that Incarnation down here we signed what you call a sacred contract with the universe and you said that this is what informs our incarnation in our person in your personality with scared and loving parts, so It's almost like it was embedded in the code of the universe, the scared parts of the personality were also there to teach us something what exactly that love is, but fear is not a part of the universe it's not embedded in the universe it's part of the School of the Earth your soul is not part of the School of the Earth and when you die when your Incarnation dies you will not be what is first embedded in the code of the universe of everything by code if you mean something that has to be deciphered or code of programming is not and nothing has to be deciphered the universe is love you are love the universe is compassionate the Earth School itself is a gift of compassion although sometimes it hurts every time you experience a part of your personality that is not loving, It is a part that comes from fear, it originates in fear, you experience it, for example, as resentment, jealousy, anger, superiority and entitlement, inferiority and the need to please.

Jealousy is all so painful that it is part of your personality these experiences do not come from the immutable foundation of your being they come from parts of your personality and your personality has other parts some of them originate in love and experience the same circumstances at school of the earth but in a very different way than we experience those parts of our personality as gratitude appreciation affection satisfaction patience the entire universe and when you experience these parts of your personality you feel good, how you feel good and how you don't feel good is a part important of your awareness that spiritual growth work requires that you develop your emotional awareness.

There is a lot of talk right now about this new Earth and a lot of people are realizing that either the Earth's belief system is going to change completely, we will be in a new dimension but I heard you talk about this quote from the Buddha of Enlightenment before Enlightenment you cut wood you carry water after Enlightenment you still chop wood you carry water and you know Enlightenment, that could be a whole different conversation that we can open up with, but with this New Consciousness that you're referring to, do you see that there will be a before and an after in which the entire world and the systems that created the structures at this moment are going to change or we are going to live in a very similar world with only a new consciousness.

I would like to suggest to everyone listening to us that you do not accept anything that I say, it is simply because I say it, on the contrary, if I say something that you resonate with and experiment with it and see what that creates in your life and if it is what you want to create create experiment a little more and if it doesn't create what you want if it doesn't create a greater appreciation for the universe if it doesn't create more compassion if it doesn't create patience if it doesn't create gratitude and joy throw it away don't try to wear a tight shoe now I'll be back To your question, I don't know, but I do know that we are in the Earth School.

I wouldn't expect to be in the Earth School and suddenly have the consciousness of someone who is not in the Earth School; In other words, I wouldn't stand in front of a truck and hope not to be crippled or killed. I would expect I continue to be upset, irritated, angry, enraged and judging things that activate scared parts of my personality. I would expect that creating authentic power will continue to be a challenge because to love to give the gifts you were born to give, you must go beyond controlling the parts of your personality that originate in fear and to do that requires commitment and courage, compassion and All of that is not going to disappear because your consciousness expands.

The term new Earth is a beautiful term, but in my experience, the Earth is I will not change the earth is a living entity the Earth exists with us or without us Aboriginal cultures experience this much more than most of us and that is why are continually grateful to Mother Earth for patcha Mama same term I am too um I'm not worried about the earth I'm worried about my conscience and what it brings to our species and to human evolution for most of my life my contributions have been those of fear and now the opposite is happening, my life has also become happy and it wasn't like that.

I was very happy before, although I thought he was a great guy. Does that answer your question or does it start to say yes? And I'm really curious now that you opened up in your personal experience what changed for you in making that transition from fear to I love it, was it incremental. It started when I first wrote a book on quantum physics and as I was writing that book I realized that I wasn't writing it alone, that there is no such thing as loneliness, it's not possible to be alone and that's how it was. When I first experienced non-physical reality, it wasn't mystical, it wasn't esoteric, it was there, it was real and those increases have continued throughout my life.

A big increase was when I met my first non-physical teacher. I didn't really believe in non-physical teachers until I talked to one at first. By the way, when I talk about a non-physical teacher, I mean one with a capital T as we become multisensory. I started to be able to communicate with non-physical presences, some of them don't know much more than the person who takes out the groceries from your store, so be picky, but you can tell a real non-physical teacher because all you hear from him. you will feel firm and correct a non-physical teacher will never tell you what to do do this or that never if you ever find that you are not in communication with a non-physical teacher you are in communication with a terrifying part of your personality A non-physical teacher will It will show new ways of looking that will be useful to you.

There is a quote from the Coron. Miracles it is perfect. It says that Angels light the way so that all darkness disappears and you are standing in a light so bright and clear that You can understand all things, that is a treasure in your life, a teacher and we all have one or more depending on the influence that we have. The extent of our influence was a huge increase for me and I put all of that into a book called. The seed of the soul Another big increase was Linda Francis because when I met her many increases, you could say, came with a lot of chemistry.

She had never loved anyone before. She was addicted to sex. She loved riding a motorcycle. I wouldn't say I loved it. is the right word but it made me feel superior I needed to prove myself I needed to feel admired the street name is macho Macho means to describe someone who is so scared that they don't even know they are scared and is controlled by fear and I was that when I graduated from college I joined the Army I became a paratrooper I became a Green Beret in Vietnam all because I needed to prove to myself that I wasadmirable was the term I used but what I really meant was adorable so that was all part of my development, the development of my Consciousness when I met Linda for the first time I began to experience things that I had never experienced before.

I felt good being with her. She had been with many more women than she could remember and I didn't care at all about any of them. They didn't care at all that's the nature of sexual addiction it's mutual exploitation there's no intimacy in it even though it may seem intimate it's not I didn't discover that I loved Linda but I love someone for the first time what was really different was that I discovered that I love to love Linda Where did that come from? How could I love love Linda? And when I met her I wasn't attracted to her at all, on the contrary, but when she moved to Mount Chasta, which was a small mountain community that she lived in, I was completely surprised by how happy I was to see her.

That was not my experience with her when I met her in a new era. Retired a few months before. I rejected it. I judged that he didn't like her. way she looked or talked, but when I saw her in Mount Chasta when she arrived I felt happy and I had never felt so happy before and that's how we met. I helped her move. She had a little cabin and I had a little cabin. cabin and I showed her some basic things like how to put firewood for the winter because it is cold here in winter and there is no thermostat in your little cabin, there is only a wood stove and she would come talk to me. in the afternoon and sometimes I like that and other times I was so uncomfortable with her that I just wanted her to leave and then after about 6 months I got the idea that I think I'm in a relationship, she left to To be in Europe I was with a guru for two weeks and while she was away I realized that I didn't want to live without her.

This wasn't a Hollywood type experience, it was a simple and solid experience. I didn't want to live in a small cabin separate from the small cabin I lived in. I wanted us to be in the same cabin. I wanted to be with her and when she returned she had had the same experience and that's why this sweet experience was one that we shared easily and naturally when we moved into my little cabin and then started growing together. I remember one time we were walking down a steep, steep street, uh, next to where we lived and her running shoe came undone, untied, then she reached to tie it and when she was kneeling, I was watching. down on the top of her head and I saw gray hair and I love that gray hair and I knew we were going to grow old with her and I love that thought and then I found out that I loved loving her so much. all those things were happening and over the years we were together I came to admire his courage, his clarity, his determination, his brilliance and see, oh, what's the word, vulary might be superpower, but it's not a superpower, It is the power that she loved the people. and she connected with them, not with a soft, emotional kind of love, but with intelligent and sensible sharing.

We could be on a plane and she talked to the person across the aisle and when the plane landed they didn't want to leave her because she was interested in them she wanted to know about them. I like that now, but I wasn't there. I was admiring it in Linda and did for years and then she had a stroke and her body died in an ICU room three days later. was the next big increase, everything started to change first. He didn't know it, but the pain he felt could exist. I couldn't imagine it. I still can't now, which is a blessing.

I can't go back to that, but it was big, it was like a mountain and I couldn't go through it, around it, underneath it, it was there and it didn't move and it was more than I had ever experienced and I just decided, as I felt like not to waste a little bit of that pain because I know that everything that happens in my life goes through my spiritual growth, including that pain, and I set the intention of not stopping living it fully so as not to be distracted in any way, no matter how small it may be for two days.

Later I was sitting outside watching some trees move gently in the wind and I realized that I no longer have a purpose for living except to love people and it's permanent, it was permanent and it's now. I would have thought about it before. I might have even said that before, but it wasn't really like that, but it's like that from time to time, things kept happening to me, I mean they happened to me, no, no, I didn't think I was leaving a bank parking lot because I had to learn. all the things Linda knew about our finances and I woke up in school on Earth.

Now the Earth School is a term that we have used for years as shorthand for this domain of time, space, matter and Duality, and this was It was not a thought, it was not an experience, it was a grounded experience of Simply I woke up and looked across the street, there were still people walking on the sidewalk, like before I looked down the street, there were still cars stopped at the red light, like there. we were before, but I realized for the first time that I'm in the school of earth, we've used that term for decades, but I woke up to it.

I'm in earth school and the next day I realized, when I woke up, I realized that I was surprised how asleep the world is that I just woke up from and I was greatly surprised how asleep I was in the same world before wake up. These were big surprises for me and the next day I realized the world I woke up to. It's exactly the same as the world I was asleep in and the next day I realized it was exactly the same as when I was asleep in the world and that's where your story about the Buddhist Enlightenment before and after requires the same chopping wood. and load water.

I don't know what enlightenment is, but I do know that the story of before and after is my story. Before awakening, my path was creating authentic power, cultivating love and challenging fear, and after awakening, my path was creating authentic power, cultivating love and challenging fear, that was another incremental movement. There were more. I can tell you one more. Our support team. Some of our oldest and most beloved co-creators. They come to Ashlin Oregon right there twice a year just to have a meeting. look what we're going to do next, where we're going to co-create next and this was two months after Linda Soul went home and we were all still shaken and hurting and decided to create a video to celebrate Linda's life. and show people that it is appropriate at the end of life not to grieve or lament or moan or cry but to celebrate the life that has just been lived because entry into the Earth School The Earth School is voluntary, not all souls that would like to be here. has the opportunity to be here it is a dramatic act of spiritual responsibility Incarnation and it is appropriate to celebrate it so we made a video and you can see it it is on our website I did it we decided to publish it on the website a year after she soul went home, the website is the name of the book seat ofthe soul.com, like what you're on the S, so you'll see when you go to the Linda Francis celebration menu, click to see that video, it's raw.

It's wonderful, it's powerful, I'm Linda, yeah, after we made that video, we all went out to dinner, there were about 20 of us and the person who served me came up to me because I guess I was the oldest and said, do you want this in one? bill or separate tabs and I said separate tabs that's what I always said I was always stingy with money but I couldn't do that I had to run after her say I changed my mind put it all in wind pill give it to me I wanted to do that, there is no second agenda.

I never felt that before and the next day. This realization came to me gently but with authority. Now I am generous, so all of these things are part of my process and along the path of my Consciousness. It has been expanding and Linda and I have been expanding sharing expressing our expanding consciousness right after Linda Soul returned home, about two weeks passed. I was finally able, for some reason, to be able to communicate with one of our non-physical teachers, we have two and I was, I didn't ask for it, I was like in a stream, in a Daydream and I was thinking about the love that Linda and I experienced, how complete it was.

It was, the easy thing, and that doesn't mean we didn't have it. power struggles and we didn't have difficult moments when we were in scared parts of our personalities, but this love was like nothing we had ever experienced, it was there, it couldn't be better. I couldn't love her less. He loved her and her. I knew it and I knew that she loved me the same way and we were and I was thinking these thoughts when suddenly a non-physical teacher was there and said now let your love encompass all your loved ones because I had told her that I I don't know if it is a him, is an impersonal energy Dynamic and he said that all this is centered on a precious and beloved Linda and he said that now let your love encompass all your loved ones and he said I said why it hurts so much and he said because scared parts of your personality demand that the world be different from what it is that has nothing to do with your love for Linda Let it go cocreate with her now I told you before that a non-physical teacher does not tell you what to do do this he has only told me what to do two times in my life and I have known it for almost 40 years and experienced it.

I also don't take what he says for granted, but now I know it's the first time he gave it to me. one address was shortly after I met her she said write this book he was talking about the seed of the Soul she said now is the time to write this it is essential that you write it it is necessary that you write it now is the time to write now is that you were not born to ski and so I did and then when I finished the manuscript and was going to send it out, I was thinking that My Oh My My First book on physics won the American Book Award and got a great review. in the New York Times, what is the New York Times going to think about a book about Evolution, reincarnation and Consciousness and our teacher told me: don't worry, this Arrow will find his Ark?

I had no idea the impact that would have when It happened the second time this teacher told me to do something that was co-create with Linda, he said that what I should take with you, Gary, now is that you are with Linda, co-create with her and when that happened to me, Leo, something arose in me, so deep like the ocean rising and through tears I laughed I was crying that doesn't run away from me I didn't know if I was laughing or crying and this said I will cocreate with you beloved I will cocreate with you I don't know how I don't know how this book that I'm writing now will fit into that, but I will co-create with you and Linda told me that the book that you're writing now will be the prelude to what we co-create and that was the first thing she told me after we Saul went home and these other things began to happen.

I continue to communicate with our teachers, of course, they were my lifeline to sanity and groundedness and well, I told them those parts and they kept telling me things. I have told you that, for example, that there is no difference between the inside and the outside, but we have told people that before, but that is not the same as the experience that we have told people, it is not the same that experience and experience brings. with this other experiences and realizations that are surprising months ago one of our teachers told me that this is a change in your Evolution today marks this day and I said what is going to happen and the teacher said that you will no longer need to record, transcribe and study. what I tell you or what I tell Linda and I said well then what and he said you will participate and he didn't explain it to me but over time I began to understand that for example he was telling me something that was very deep and meaningful for me and I I would say, oh, I'm going to pause and absorb that and the teacher said, you can't absorb it, take it, is that it?

This is part of the new Consciousness. At first it is worrying. I couldn't understand it. For example, the teacher told me that the universe is inside you, not outside you and I thought I couldn't tell people that sounds completely solid, systemic, narcissistic and unbalanced, New Age fantasy, but that's what I they said and then I knew it was so m. so I started experimenting with this I looked outside again I saw trees moving again in the breeze and I said well, I experimented I said this is the universe is out there so it's always been out there I'm looking at it out there right now I'm going to do an experiment I'm going to pretend it's inside me so I did it I pretended and I could pretend now I'm looking inside me, not outside and then I came back now it's outside of me then I move it again, now it's inside me and after a while, Emilio, I couldn't move it anymore, it's inside, so now, what was I going to do?

This doesn't make any sense and so I was like, well, wait a minute, what are these other people? In this universe, what happens to them? They are doing things. I'm not controlling any of that and he said that you are not responsible for what happens in the universe, once you realize that it is within you, you are responsible for your choices and this is a part of it. Of the problems that I mentioned, they are problematic as the new Consciousness comes into your being, you know, into your experience because it doesn't make sense and I had to be told that several times, um, um, at one point, one of the teachers He said the time had come. bythe feeling of understanding and focus instead on giving and sharing joy and after a while I had to stop trying to understand it was too painful it just couldn't be done the teacher would say this and then that and I say how they fit and they say no.

Once again you have reached the limit of your intellect of your understanding. Now I no longer try to understand it because I know from experience that it cannot be. I understood and was We are told early and then we deny it, we are told early that instead of intellects being replaced by order, higher order logic and an understanding of the heart that is in the seed of the soul, but this is impossible to grasp , but it is impossible to ignore, so there you are there, I was there, we all will be when we begin to experience this new consciousness that cannot be explained.

The intellect, your intellect and your mind were designed to analyze, compare, evaluate, assimilate data from the five senses and present it to the personality if it is useful. By creating manipulation and control of external power, all that is our past, that does not mean that there are not hundreds of millions, billions of humans who are still five. Century, we are not better than them, it is just a temporary burden. In the flow of evolution we will soon all be multisensory and those of us who choose will create authentic power and eventually we will all choose because the alternative of living and creating in fear and fear is too painful and too destructive and our desire to give the gifts to those of us who were born is too strong and you can't do it unless you're in love, you can't do it while you're afraid, so I started following the only thing I could do, so I'll give our listeners now an exercise: something to consider first that the universe is in you and by the way, that was so incredible to me that I started looking around, I thought I must find a way to prove this or communicate this and then I remembered. that the Lakota culture, which is a culture that Linda and I are in, was adopted into that wisdom that says the center of the universe is everywhere.

I have heard those words very often but I never tried to understand them because I knew I couldn't, but then when I tried to understand them when I decided not to let them pass over me anymore but sink into me I realize that it is impossible how can it be the center of the universe and that means that the center of the universe is in me the center of the universe is in me it is also in you amilio is also in everyone who listens to us then I remembered when sidartha became enlightened he saw worlds as numerous as dust Moes, you know what it is a MO of dust and you see a ray of sunlight coming in the window on a sunny day and you see these yes.

Myriads of little things floating in it, each one is dust M. The Buddha saw worlds as numerous as modes of dust, each with a Buddha and a path to Enlightenment. How many Moes of powder are there in one? ray of sunlight how many rays of sunlight are there in the universe that is what the Buddha saw and it aligned exactly with what he was also saying that you are a unique expression of the universe not a unique experience of the universe a unique expression of the universe and you also, Emilio, and also everyone who is listening, so these are things to experiment with, you can think about them, but they will guide you.

Thinking about them will lead you to a dead end, but that's part of the process at least. It was for me that the universe is inside you and there is no outside. What does that mean? What does it really mean? It means you are responsible for what you choose and what you choose changes your unique experience of the universe and you are responsible for everything. that Karma does not stop working as your consciousness expands it never stops working is, you could say, an absolute truth, it is not a personal truth, there is no form of Consciousness in the universe that is in you that is not responsible of their choices.

I am very grateful to you Emilio. I've appreciated you since we met and what you're doing, and I appreciate this opportunity to share some of these experiences with your viewers. I feel like a lot of them are from generation Z. I have an affinity for Chany. It is probably the first generation that is born with a new Consciousness, so it is not necessary to explain what the new Consciousness is by living it, what you do not have is a contrast with the old Consciousness, what you do not have. What you have is an understanding of why the world you were born into is the way it is.

It is collapsing. It is disintegrating. All the social structures in it are disintegrating because they are all based on external power and external power now only produces violence and destruction. that can Don't believe anything else, let me give you an example, it is evident in the United States that our political system is not working and is not improving, that is because our social structure of government is dissolving, it is falling apart and it is not It can be fixed because it is not broken. is obsolete and every Collective that was formed by the consciousness of five sensory humans, the old consciousness is now experiencing this, including the United States of America, our form of government is constitutional representative democracy, in my opinion, which is the perfect way The most exquisite form of government created by the old Consciousness is designed to harness the conflicting pursuits of external power for the common good.

It has three parts of government and they balance each other by intention. Each of those parts of government has different participants whose mandates are different and are elected differently, all of this taking advantage of conflicting pursuits of external power and harnessing it for the common good. Now the common good does not include external power. Now there is no good at all, in any way, under any circumstances, for external power and pursuit. This just creates violence and destruction and that's what we're seeing, that's what we saw in the last State of the Union address, it was rude, it was cruel, it was rude, there was no connection, there was no love, there were no points.

In common, this system of governance, like all our social structures, is decaying to disintegration and has no saving value, that is what we are experiencing now, so it is very useful to understand these things and the new Consciousness that is emerging in us, our will, for example, I mentioned before that five sensory humans and perhaps some multisensory humans have within them what appears to be a barrier between the inside and the outside that barrier does not exist in the new consciousness that means that it does not exist. I'll tell you what it means, it means that changing the world requires changing yourself because you are no different from the world, that's what Gandhi, one of my heroes, said, in effect, not those words, but in effect you said let it be the change to As we become multisensory and the new Consciousness begins to flourish in us, we see that that is not a slogan that is not advice that is observation you cannot change the world because discord anger disconnection competition violence brutality in the world The world is in you and you are not very separated from the world, you and the world are one.

To change it, a different type of power is required, which is authentic power and which brings us back to what we are talking about, everything brings us back to what we are talking about, which It is Love, Love is Real, fear is an illusion, it does not appear. to be an illusion, I had to hold on to that when Linda's body died, the whole realm of fear is the realm of illusion and we all know that otherwise John Lenen would have written a song called All We Need Is Fear and everyone knows it's absurd and an ugly one, all we need is love because eventually we will realize that love heals everything and love is all there is and Gary, first of all, thank you very much for that broadcast and for taking us there, taking us to all the moments in your life that have blossomed your heart and that journey from the intellect to the heart that I think right now we're shifting as a collective towards um, the intellect has ruled over a lot of the things and that's even one of the Shadows that I cling to is the The intellect sometimes my mind wants to understand these I think about transcendent issues in a very intellectual way and when I surrender my mind when I surrender the logical brain in my heart is when everything makes sense and clicks a different way um One thing I wanted to hone in on through that transmission was really this aspect of communicating with the Beyond and when Linda transitioned into non-physical reality, you were processing that in real time and you were processing and even creating messages for your community. about what you were experiencing EXP at that moment.

I really recommend people read the 11 personal messages you left us and so many Reflections. There are so many things you said that were important to you that lost their meaning. importance, you said that when a soul decides to return home, nothing can stop it, because of this grieving process, let's say, and it may not only have to do with a soul returning to non-physical reality, but perhaps with a heartbreak. or the ending of a relationship or a job or many different things here at the Earth School processing that through authentic power must be very different than processing it through the ways that we have been programmed or accustomed to processing, so, What is your experience like? where the initial reaction was to go to fear and then process that grief and embrace it over time and allow your heart to open wide, it was not the process of being afraid, the fear came, it was there and it came like a mountain of pain and You Ed the word transmission which is a beautiful term but every time someone speaks to you well the words of transmission carry Consciousness and the consciousness of the word transmission is that oh wait I'm hearing something I'm here there is now I'm going to tell you that this is the transmission I am talking about, a Consciousness that is arising in you.

Not that it may seem that way at first, but it is in you and as you move towards it, you become the source if you wish. To call it transmission, what are you transmitting love? but as you become love you don't have to listen to it and then say this is how it is you become that you become that because you are that we get used to thinking of things in terms of parts and the relationships between them there are no such things and there has never been there is one and everything is that and you are that why not create love why not create with love that is what creates authentic power come to our website is I have courses on it online courses read the books learn to create authentic power that's what you were born to do eventually you will and in doing so you open up and as you open up your consciousness begins to expand and as your consciousness begins to expand so do you and your life too, and then there comes a time when You can look at someone and say you are a powerful, creative, compassionate, loving Spirit, and the pain in your life is a measure of the distance between that reality and your self-image. image I wouldn't suggest that you go to the supermarket and say that to the first employee who reviews your purchase, but when it's appropriate and your heart tells you that you can discuss these things because they are significant, they are the most important. meaningful things what is more meaningful and if you are not sure what you should be doing in the world look for meaning like your compass and follow it and see where it takes you, it may lead you to something that quickly leads you to something else that quickly leads you it leads to realizing that this is what gives you satisfaction and then being passionate about sharing what you share on your powerful podcast Gary, what do we take away when we move into real non-physical reality?

We have been talking about non-physical reality as if it is somewhere else, there is no other place, so you are not packing your bags, getting on a new age plane or whatever vehicle it is and going to another place and then you are asking me when you arrive and unpack the bag you are taking no you are not taking anything you have nothing to carry you are everything and that is what you take but how are you doing? You may have heard that the vibration, the thought or the Consciousness that you have in the moment of your death is what determines your Consciousness at that moment, as the most famous example of this is Gandhi when three bullets passed through his body and he said the name of God, can you do that what happens if you have a heart attack and you You fall and break your nose but you don't even realize it because all you're seeing is what you've never seen before on Earth from one to a quarter of an inch away that's what you're bringing with you in other words I want to leave I want to suggest one more thing to our listeners another thing to experience that is calling you is your perceptions they are not happening to you they are not happening in you, you are your perceptions.

I once asked my non-physical teacher, our non-physical teacher, will you help me prepare? I want to be conscious when I die and the teacher said: I understand what you are asking, I would suggest. that you practice conscious living and I thought well, that's what a teacher would say, but I didn't stop to realize that it was accurate and precise, since all this teacher has told me is what is your consciousness now, when your body it goes off, when. you die it will be because the universe is accommodating something in the school of the earth because your soul has chosen to go home at that moment what will you be experiencing then well those will be your perceptions those will be your Sensations Sensations those will be your thoughts those will be your experiences now be with that's becausethat is with you when you really look at these things which means that you yourself and your developing consciousness cannot die the question is what will your consciousness be your experiences your thoughts your sensations at that moment this is an experience of yours you could say that the universe does not It changes but it always changes It doesn't move but it never stops moving You are all of that You are your consciousness What would be your consciousness When your body decides, it stops functioning as you are used to or you look up and the last thing you see is the car about to hit your body , that is what you are, that is your perception, you are not separate from anything in any way.

At any moment, under any circumstance, you are much more than you can imagine as you live your life here in the school of earth, but you can achieve the most you can bring to the table in each moment, learn how to create authentic power and then do it, it works. . You better do it Gary, what's the wisest choice you've ever made in your life? There are so many that I can't count them. I will remember them all. One of them didn't even occur to me as an option when I heard my teacher for the first time, it never occurred to me to doubt it afterwards I thought about what they told me I applied what they told me I used what they told me I shared what they told me who told me that do that who said you can trust that voice when I know there are many voices in my head that I would not follow their advice they come from fear there is also wisdom in every choice you make it is not possible to make a wrong decision or a bad choice you can make decisions that is painful, but there is learning in every choice you make, so that's not exactly what you're asking, it's the reality that there is wisdom or potential learning in every choice you make, but I think what you're saying is what options you have. fact that helped your consciousness expand as you encounter your new Consciousness, it is like saying, suppose you are traveling through the countryside and you come to a field, it is a beautiful field and there is a Big Red Barn there and you say to yourself , well, I'm I'm going to choose to trust that Red Barn is really there, you just see it, it's there when I first experienced non-physical reality writing that chapter on quantum physics, it was there, I didn't have to say it, well, I'm going to choose.

To trust this, you will need to make many decisions exactly like this in your life. The question: the choice in your life is always what will be your intention next, love or fear, and that is why it is not possible to say that the choice of Love is wiser than the choice of fear but the choice of love will lead you to Wherever you want to go the choice of fear will take you is a direct route to where the scared parts of your personality want to go there is learning in all of this that is why I said before that the universe is compassionate the universe is love the earth's gr is a gift of compassion even if it hurts Lind the soul coming home was for me a gift of compassion even though it hurt what gift in your life are you judging as not compassionate if in that moment you create authentic power, you apply your emotional awareness, which we have not discussed in this session , and make a responsible decision as you experience the painful physical sensations in your energy processing centers, your chakras, to move your awareness to a loving part of your being.

Personality, a moment when you knew you were loved or loved and you choose to act from that part of your personality while experiencing the scary part, its pain and its harsh judgments, that is creating authentic power and as you do it over and over again. again, you begin to Go beyond the control of that part of your personality now that I experience a painful part of my personality as the return of Linda's Soul home. I can say thank you, thank you for showing me a part of my personality that I need to fully experience and go beyond the control of to give the gifts I was born to give.

I'm giving some of them now to you and our listeners that I couldn't have before, but I'll keep reminding you not to take any. What I say is because everything I tell you is shared from the very limited perspective of this incarnation of myself of my soul as Gary Zukov and it is that big and you can compare that to a highway that runs its entire length. of the United States, this is how consciousness can expand into and beyond and my consciousness is here, so it is from this perspective that I am sharing the best I can with you, the most loving, the most concerned, what are you sharing? and why ask those questions?

There are no wise answers, but the questions themselves are wives and Gary, your story that you shared really shows us how limitless love can be. um I can put it that way, it is and how limitless your awareness of it can be and it is like you. Challenge all the parts of your personality that originate in fear and move beyond your control because those are the parts that prevent you from experiencing love when you experience gratitude or caring or patience or the entire universe, you are experiencing your soul which is authentic power. the question is not can you do it, you just did it, the question is when are you going to do it again and you had an aha moment, um, as Oprah liked to call them, where I heard you say that as you evolve, you start to feel that. the journey and the destination are identical how did that click for you click is not the correct word click is a mechanical term like when I recognized non-physical reality the first time or when I woke up in the ear?

School nothing clicked it just happened yeah Lind and I have been sharing what we were given to share which is that the journey and the destination are the same but it never made sense because we never stop to think about it and it won't make sense , but if you resonate with it, allow yourself to be with what resonates with you in the healthiest way by its definition, a journey has yet to be completed or when it is completed it is at a destination, but saying that the two are the same does not make any sense. It simply seems normal to us to say those words, but as your Consciousness expands you begin to see what cannot be understood, what can be known, can be experienced, can be lived and shared with joy.

I don't want to go into teaching or preaching this. It's not where I want to go, I just enjoy being with you, Emilio, and I enjoy being with the people who watch our interactions and if you find some value in them, try them, yeah, and Gary, we end each show with a segment called Final Threesome, which are just final questions that we ask Open Hearts even more before we get into that, where would you send people to connect with you more? I know you have some exciting new projects coming up, you mentioned a book you were writing, where?

Would you send people to learn more about that seat of the soul.com the website that is the best place now also for books the book seat of the soul and the last book that I wrote is called Universal Human which was in 2021 Lindon that I wrote. A book on emotional awareness that is very useful is called The Heart of the Soul and we also have a book on spiritual association that we have not talked about this time. Spiritual partnership is a partnership between equals for the purpose of spiritual growth. It is what one naturally creates and seeks as you move from the fifth century to multisensory perception.

Also subscribe to our newsletter. It's getting better and better. It's called Soul Connections. It has a video and something to read. And we also have a new program. You can subscribe for free, it's called Soul Seeds and every week you'll receive something in your inbox that's just a quick thought, it's a Soul Seed. I love it. Oh, and then we have another show called One Night With. Gary zuka and that happens once a month you have to subscribe to that one that's not free but it's worth it for the questions people ask that's where the real wisdom is and where we talk about that IQ and I've been talking about things so go to the website go to the books go to your heart go to your meaning we will put everything below where everyone can find you and for the final trio uh the first thing I wanted to ask you is what does it mean when the universe provides us with Grace.

I will answer that from the Earth School perspective the universe is Grace, but what we generally mean is that for a moment you have the experience of your life without fear, then it is your responsibility to make that experience a stable and continuous experience. experience in your life live a life with Grace thank you yes a life of Grace means a life of love a life of consciousness not of need second question Gary is what does your heart tell you or say when you tune in to your love for Humanity enjoy I love that Simply put, that was one of our intentions for this episode, yes, it was, that's right and the final question we call the Time Capsule question and we ask it at the end of every show and it requires us to travel to the

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about 15 20 years later and I chose CHS outside of that time period because that will be a time when the next Generations will be in more leadership positions around the world and really spearheading the new Consciousness and spearheading the new systems and structures that are being created. creating on Earth and were given the opportunity to leave a time capsule for these leaders that they would open when they were ready in 20 years to truly lead the U and advance Humanity.

You could put anything you want inside this time capsule it could be something physical, non-physical, a teaching, a book, anything your imagination can reach, but what would you leave behind in this time capsule for the leaders of the world? tomorrow? There are no others and it sounds like you are talking about leaders as others there is no

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there is no such thing exists now what you are now is the future create authentic power no there is no future to create it itself authentic power now is the time is not that It is another perception of the earth school, which is the only place where time exists, yes, I am not talking about time, I am talking about the now, I am talking about your life, I am talking about what you are experiencing now, which is the same as talking about what you are now when you bring your consciousness to Encompass that oh, that's where we're going, that's where we are, but it's not new territory from the point of view of the universe, the universe is all that could .

I know everything that will be and everything is happening now and you are that now AO brother um it is always a great honor to have you in this light and to see you uh see you as you really are, in truth, the Divinity within you um It is such a beautiful reflection that you're paving the way in many ways by embodying this multi-sensory perception and allowing us to really see it in you so we can see it in ourselves so really all roads lead inward as is the motto of this for this podcast and thank you for bringing us to inside with your wisdom with your joy with your game with everything that encompasses you Gary zukov this personality and your soul so I hope to do this many more times and continue with this beautiful friendship and conversations that we have already sat here now me too amilio let's do it Let's do it safely