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Thomas D now on what led to the chase. and questions about why it continued in such dangerous circumstances, oh my goodness, drivers on Canada's busiest highway were shocked to see a U-Haul van speeding in the wrong direction not far behind the Durham Police who Chase seconds later thick smoke could be seen billowing from a Fire accident that killed a baby and two grandparents Brody Mills captured the scene on video Monday night in disbelief. Speeds would be over 160 if I had to guess because I was doing 110 120 and it was like ID had parked my truck on the road when they passed me Investigators say the chaotic chase began with a liquor store robbery witnessed by an officer outside of service.

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. The chase ended. Within 20 minutes, investigators say it ended with at least six vehicles colliding. The driver of this transport truck escaped without serious injuries. The suspect was the fourth person killed. We will receive recordings of communications and conduct interviews to find out what happened, when and why. Durham Regional Police. they have their own helicopter and it is unclear whether officers considered requesting the helicopter or other means; the police must be able to demonstrate later that if they had not pursued that vehicle, there would have been a greater risk to the public.

Ontario Police regulations state that The officer will not initiate a vehicle pursuit without first weighing the risk to public safety. That same topic was discussed on provincial police radio. He just wants to make sure the Durham sergeant knows they're driving in the opposite direction. Someone is going to get hurt. Thomas, there was another one. person in the van that the police were chasing, what do we know about him? Ontario's special investigations unit has not said whether that man is considered a suspect or how he got to that cargo van that officers were chasing. Investigators have only said that the man was injured in all of this, as Durham Regional Police acknowledge that this whole incident raises a lot of questions, but they are not answering those questions publicly now as the police watchdog investigates what happened here .

Adrian, okay, thank you Thomas Thomas Day, we are. Following the latest developments tonight in New York City, a shelter-in-place order has just been issued for students at Columbia University. Tensions are high after pro-Palestinian protesters barricaded themselves inside Hamilton Hall, which is why Chris Reyes is at the University tonight. Chris, can you describe the scene right there right now we are in the middle of a very active protest in front of a closed campus as you mentioned it is currently under a shelter in place inside there is a building currently occupied by student organizers there is a heavy police presence here with Officials The roads surrounding the entire campus have been blocked and the question now is what will happen next from the roof of Hamilton Hall, a clear statement of defiance.

Columbia University's academic building has now been taken over by pro-Palestinian protesters. The breach occurred during the night. Broken windows. barricades raised Furniture stacked to block access a banner unfurled renaming the room in honor of a six-year-old Palestinian girl murdered in Gaza the NYPD says those inside are not students at the school these protests, which Once peaceful, they are being exploited by outside professional agitators. The safety of all students, faculty and staff is now a concern. The dramatic escalation occurred after nearly two weeks of completely failed talks between the

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rejected him. and began handing out suspensions on Monday for those who would not leave the camp and now for those who will not leave Hamilton Hall ulion from an official spokesperson this statement the disruptions on campus have created a threatening environment for many of our Jewish students and faculty and a noisy distraction that interferes with teaching, learning, and preparation for final exams. Many of my friends who are Jewish students in Colombia say the opposite, they say that in fact they feel safer now that they are in a community of Jewish, Christian, Muslim and even non-Muslim people who have united in defense of the people of Gaza. .

Columbia has closed its entire campus allowing only essential personnel. Some students and a small group of journalists within the student organizers said they have no plans to go anywhere until their demands are met. We, the students, cannot stand by while our tuition and our jobs are used to support assassinations. En masse over the past two weeks, students have jeopardized their education and careers in safe homes, knowing that there are no universities left in Gaza because of the bombs financed by us. Chris, if you're there and I want you to be safe, it looks like the police are closing in.

Can you explain to us what is happening? Yes, this situation has changed very quickly. Adrian, those protesters who were in front of the door here at Columbia University. They have now

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d to the road, there are hundreds of police officers in riot gear and protesters are moving barricades onto the street. This is now a very intense and active confrontation between protesters and NYBD police officers. I'm just going to take a panoramic view. the camera to show them exactly what happened in the last few minutes. I'm going to move the camera here and remember that we are in front of the only door here at Columbia University that has allowed students and staff to enter.

It is currently closed. There are also protesters on campus and this has been the concern all day as talks have broken down between University officials and the student organizers behind the encampment currently on campus and again, as I mentioned, This has changed very quickly. I'm going to zoom in our camera a little bit closer to show you exactly what's happening near the door because now we see the police officers starting to come in, so Chris, first of all, I want you and Sean to be careful. I'm just curious. The police appear to be in riot gear or not and have they communicated anything to the protesters?

Yes, yes, Adrien, they're in riot gear. They have told the students to disperse the fashistas. What we don't know well. Now is whether they are going to enter the campus. Has no sense. What a shame. where the police officers appear to be entering and Chris. I should also mention to Adrian that there are people here wearing AC vest uh Lu, so presumably to help students who may be arrested tonight and Chris brings us. Speed ​​up these buses. I don't know if they will bring in the police or if they will remove the protesters if the expectation is that they will be arrested, but the statistical status of arrests so far is that no, at this time, no.

We have not seen any arrests at this time. They moved. They moved in about 5 minutes ago. We have seen dozens of police officers who are currently located right near the campus gate and we also understand Chris in terms of There are some people inside because Columbia is also a journalism school. There are some journalism students who are inside Hamilton Hall and they are live streaming what is happening inside the room. That's about right for the last few days they've been allowing. The journalists on campus today were the exception, they allowed a very limited number of journalists and those included journalism students who are part of one of the most prestigious journalism schools in the world here at Columbia University and I just want to show you . this building too because we're right in front of Hamilton Hall and that's the building that's currently occupied by student protesters okay here come some arrests that I'm seeing right now.

I'm seeing some arrests happening right now. and again the protesters are being dispersed uh we're right in the middle of the road right now uh that's been uh closed to traffic ok, the police are telling us to move ok, trying to get on the sidewalk Yeah, you and Sean do whatever they have to do to get out of Harm's Way while they're doing it, we're seeing, certainly, the police take some people out with the rest. You can see what looks like some sort of limited riot gear. but no, Shields, um, no canes, none of that, you're still awake, Chris, how they handle this in New York will be watched by universities and cities across North America, as these, you know, tent camps campaign and protests begin to grow and we are right. behind the protesters, Adrian, which is why I have difficulty describing exactly what is happening right in front of the door.

Well, I can tell you from the Vantage that we have because I know your view is a little bit obstructed here and what you're seeing up there. Against the door of Hamilton Hall there are still more people coming out one by one, with their hands handcuffed behind their backs, there is a line of, as our viewers can see here, a riot police and other police forming a kind of barrier there. I have all those zip ties. It appears they are ready to make more arrests if necessary. Them and Chris. What's happening?. You can see the stallion.

Sorry for interrupting. What's happening?. The students who have been arrested so far and there you go. There have been some, not tonight, but in previous days, what has happened to them as far as we know. University officials have been handing out suspension and expulsion notices to those student organizers, but University officials in their daily briefings have not given us any details. uh in regards to any student arrests and in the briefing that the NYPD held tonight uh they also didn't detail any arrests uh in regards to any student arrests and so we don't have much information on that from what we understand uh They said that uh there is a possibility that many of those who are here are not students of Columbia University and there was a warning from the mayor of New York uh that this uh that among the protesters there are agitators uh who are a part that have become a part of this protest and that was the warning they gave before they started moving onto this campus tonight and Chris, for the viewers who are just joining us, police, this is a live scene like the police do in the New York City. entering the campus of Columbia University entering Hamilton Hall this is where the protesters have taken over the hall this is the discussion these the discussions up to this point to prevent this precise moment fell apart a while ago this has been this has been threatened uh warned uh it seems to be happening uh several arrests have been made uh so far no signs of violence or injuries unless I'm wrong and we just haven't seen it yet that's time and time again Adrian is right.

There is a lot of movement at the moment, we are seeing more police officers with batons, in riot gear and students approaching this line of police officers and again, a very fluid situation here at the front. from Columbia University, student journalist Chris at wkcr, which is Columbia's radio station,says police entered the camp from the west lawn and are suggesting to these reporters that the University tents are currently being searched. We know that people have been supplied with food and water throughout the day. You could see pictures of it passing the University gates all day long, so people were prepared to be there for quite a while, yeah, I mean.

They made it very clear to the student organizers behind that camp that they would not leave unless their demands were met and those demands included that the university divest from Israel, essentially severing all financial and academic ties with the country and they said: " “Okay, take your time.” I know you're in front of the gates right now where there appear to be some protesters who are fighting arrests that are being crushed against the barricades, so let's zoom in our camera a little bit closer. You know a lot of these protesters have their phones on clearly to capture every moment of what's happening here for accountability, so again you're seeing dozens of police officers, they're carrying batons, they've got zip ties, and they're moving. closer to the gate we have seen some arrests of these protesters and there is someone trying to stop you from doing your job there or is it just a matter of the crowd pushing you back yes it is a matter of the crowd just moving very fast almost following wherever the police officers go and you mentioned before Chris, the ACU uh you can see our viewers can see some now wearing one of those vests, those are protest monitors again, this American civil liberty, go ahead, now I'm Seeing a huge truck, wait a second.

I'm going to turn my camera around Adrian because there are more police officers arriving here. Well, that's a pretty amazing scene to see those officers on top of that vehicle going under that bridge and there are the shields for that riot police which is an interesting tactical vehicle, I don't know what their intention is with that, okay, the officers have now barricaded us in the bar, that is, Chris, what do you mean barricade yourself in, so we? They are right in front of the gates and the police officers have now closed off this area, okay, they are asking the press to leave this area that they just barricaded, so we are going to cross the street that they are directing us to.

Cross the street right now, come in, can you guide us, Chris, when you, when you? I'm just going to I I I I'm going to We're looking at some arrests in front of us right now so Ju Just to get your bearings Get your bearings uh in terms of where we are are what you're seeing across the street are the gates of Columbia University this was the only door open today to allow essential staff and some students to enter the campus uh this is Amsterdam Avenue uh, which has been closed to traffic for the last few hours and the police officers arrived, I mean, 30 or 40 ago Minutes and more and more they kept coming by dozens and we showed them this huge vehicle with police officers.

On top of that truck is part of the NYPD emergency unit, we were on the other side of the street, there were some reporters and journalists who were on the other side of the street, but now they told us to cross the street and we . Now we're in another barricaded area looking at Columbia University right now, okay, so take your time and again for the viewers who are just joining us. The New York City police have moved to the Columbia University campus. particularly to a place called Hamilton Hall, which is a place where pro-Palestinian protesters had broken in, you know, in some cases, they started to say stage, sitting, there were tent camps, we saw people all day long passing them food , water and others. supplies, we understand it from a combination of reporters on the ground like Chris and video and cameraman Sean, who are on the outside, as well as some students, journalists, a very good journalist on the inside with wkcr, which is the radio station from Columbia University.

I'm going to interrupt you for a second. I'm going to interrupt you for a second because right now we're watching that huge NYPD vehicle move into Hamilton Hall, so I'm going to sit up and zoom in to show you exactly. What's going on? It appears that they have now placed a ladder against the window of Hamilton Hall and it appears that police officers will enter that building with shields and in riot gear. What an extraordinary scene to see again on a campus. is the building that was occupied by student protesters overnight we saw images of broken windows barricades brought in by protesters the NYPD chief told us in a briefing this afternoon that they believe the student protesters who are currently inside Hamilton Hall there are no Columbia University students, they are described as agitators Chris, we also hear here that officers are at every entrance to the building they are telling students to leave or they will face disciplinary action uh and they work again journalism the radio station for the journalism school says that their field reporters are now being escorted off the premises, okay, so unless I'm wrong, it sounds like we're losing the sound of Chris's voice, which is perfectly understandable, it's a little crazy about the people there, um, pulling the cameraman this way and that and things can happen with the cables, so our control room will check in with Chris and Shan and make sure they're okay and while we're at it , we'll be keeping an eye on what happens What you're seeing here is that the New York City Police Department has stopped a vehicle at one of the windows of Hamilton Hall for officers and the IR team to enter and presumably remove the students, since this is a building.

We are going to increase the number of reporters who are on this. We're consulting with Chris Rees and Sean Convoy, who are our videographer along with Chris in New York City, for their audio. We have lost her. audio but she's okay we're going to reestablish that link shortly in the meantime let's take a moment and look at what's happening on the campus of Columbia University in New York City tonight okay okay our audio it's Adrian again and I want to just Getting back to this, I want to get back to this intense shot of this huge NPD vehicle.

I don't even know what to call it. It's part of the New York Police Department's emergency unit and you see that they have climbed a ladder to the window. from Hamilton Hall, this is the academic building on campus that was taken over by protesters overnight and to do that, you know, we've seen images of broken windows that those barricades dragged into this building, as well as furniture that they used to block some of the entrances, so we know there are pro-Palestinian protesters in that building right now and, as you can see, the NYPD officers are on a stairwell against that building, entering, presumably to make even more arrests and presumably also Chris, possibly obviously here.

Columbia University has given the NYPD the green light to come in and break this up. This is going to be a conversation for a long time about how it came to this, that's right, you know, and just for context, this. The camp is now, it's been on campus almost two weeks and NYPD officers were brought in about a week ago to arrest some students that were in that camp and that was a big conversation and very, very quickly, Columbia University officials made a promise that they would not bring NYPD officers to campus while negotiations continue with the student organizers behind this movement, but those talks broke down very recently when Columbia University officials The university rejected the demands of the student organizers who were leading those demands. that the university would get rid of Israel by essentially cutting all ties to Israel's academic finances and, again, I mean the question here, even just an hour ago, is what was going to happen next, because this huge campus is owned private, so it was always going to be the decision. from University officials what to do next The NYPD said they were on hold ready to go in but they needed that green light from the University and very obviously Adrian, they got that green light because there are hundreds of police officers here and one of the reports um Chris from inside the hallway and there's no way we can do this right now from the outside is that uh wkcr is saying that all the protesters have been evacuated and that the police are flooding the building from all sides.

Interestingly, officers have also lined up um in front of the gates of the City College of New York, so it's not that far away, unless I'm mistaken, 139 in Amsterdam, right, yeah, I mean it's about 20 blocks away. from here, not very far at all, but again I want to say, just to situate our viewers, this is a huge campus that takes up an entire block and as you mentioned, there are about a dozen doors that allow you to enter the campus in On a normal, normal day, almost anyone in the public can enter. All of those doors were closed today when the campus went into lockdown, with the exception of the door we were in front of, there were a select number of essential staff and some students who have dorms inside who are allowed in, so Chris.

If You Can Bear With Me, every entry has been surrounded by if you can bear with me for a moment because, as you know, a lot of people are watching this, even from the campuses of this country. We just had Allison Northcott on the line as well. Because she's at Migel, there's no doubt that Migel's students, but also the administration and the police in Montreal, are watching what's happening in New York and saying this, you know, let's not start something in terms of police response. and barricades and breaking into buildings Allison, what is happening in Montreal?

What do people there say about what they are seeing? If you are watching it right now. Well, the camp in Montreal is still there. There are about 5010 still there. The university has asked them to leave. Yesterday they asked them to leave, but they haven't done so yet. The university says they have requested police assistance. We haven't seen much police presence there so far. An injunction was filed in court today and it's from a lawyer representing two Mill students. He says those students feel unsafe on campus and he's asking for a 10-day injunction for specific groups, pro-Palestinian groups that They have been organizing these demonstrations and some of them are part of the camp, to prohibit them from doing anything. protest on campus within 100 meters of any Miguel building, then you're saying it was a way to create a way to make it safer for students, but other lawyers at the hearing today said it's a way to quell the freedom. of protest and are arguing against it because the Mill occupies a large part of downtown Montreal.

They believe it would basically ban pro protests anywhere in downtown Montreal, so protesters are now waiting and seeing what will happen. They have said they have no intention of going anywhere, they have obviously seen things happening in the US as well and they say they are ready for possible confrontations with the police that have not happened yet, but they say they have no intention of leaving and Migel. He says he has asked for police help but we haven't seen him at the camp yet Alison thanks for that Chris I have a question for you uh the reference you may not know the answer to this but the reference to by the police and some members of the University that they are external forces, the suggestion is that you know that these are anarchists, has there been any proof of that?, any recognition of that.

If I can tell you this, the student organizers behind the camp. I deny almost everything that comes from the NYPD. I mean, what I've said is that it's almost impossible to completely represent the entirety of this situation. Since there are 36,000 students going to Columbia University, add to that some. 10,000 NYPD personnel, outside of it, the NYPD has called some of those involved in this protest agitators when you talk to those who are at the protest both inside and outside, they say they are in their mostly students from Columbia University with some alumni from Colombia and us. I certainly saw some of that off campus when we were there this afternoon, and then just other supporters of the students who are organizing these protests, but certainly, if you ask those who are part of this movement, those inside Hamilton .

Hall or anyone within his group are not agitators, they are very clearly here supporting the Palestinians, they are fighting for Palestinian liberation and they want Columbia University to get rid of Israel, thoseTheir demands are clear, they are not. describe anyone within your group as agitators or outsiders, okay, thanks, stay still if you can safely. Sasha Petk now joins us from our Washington Bureau, so Sasha, as you watch this, there were warnings that this was coming, obviously, there was a press conference from Mayor Eric Adams earlier, as well as the police chief, the commissioner, right at that point about the external agitators, they talked about it and asked them how do they know that there are external agitators that these people are and the police chief's response was that they had been watching all day watching people moving around leaving uh inside the cameras until they disabled that kind of thing and said they were identifying faces that they had seen at other mass demonstrations, including the Occupy Movement, which if you remember a few years ago on Wall Street and other places, that was their response to that question.

There was also a very direct warning from the mayor and he basically said now uh it sounded a lot more dramatic like this was imminent the police were actually pretty relaxed at the time and uh it didn't really indicate that this kind of thing was going to happen in a matter of a couple of hours Sasha, you We're about two and a half blocks from the White House. I imagine the TV is on and they're watching this too and this is not this, not a good night in the Biden White House, probably not because they really were on the horns of a dilemma here, you know, for several days, since this started, the White House press officer has essentially been emphasizing that Joe Biden respects free speech and that he wants to allow people to demonstrate peacefully.

I mean it's a risky move because when something like this happens it makes it seem like maybe there are people in the White House or elsewhere in Washington who would have been supporting exactly what the police are moving against now, you know, he always has been in a difficult situation because we've also heard that the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, pressured the administration here to intervene and stop these protests, so, you know. It's very, very political, you're absolutely right, Adrian and Chris, if we can come back to you for a moment, I'm not sure if you've been able to see anything, uh, change or change, it means right now from our point of view.

Adrien, we're not seeing much movement but we're certainly hearing a lot of rumors because not only are we surrounded by other journalists but many of the protesters who were across the street are now with us in this barricaded area that we're in. We heard rumors that tear gas has been used against some protesters again. Those are still unconfirmed reports. We are hearing unconfirmed reports of an unconscious person, but again this is what we are hearing from the crowd and it is very difficult to confirm. where we are given that we are almost, you know, part, we are almost just seeing this from afar from where we are standing and what I can see right now is a line of police officers and again that huge NYPD. vehicle that raised a ladder against Hamilton Hall and they moved into the building, uh, but from where we are, there's no sense that our arrests are happening, but again, this is just one side of the school, this is a huge campus and Como You mentioned, every door and entrance to this school is locked for security, so we are currently on Amsterdam Avenue, at the other end of this campus, is Broadway, where there is also a massive police presence, so we don't have any. sense of what's going on out there, uh, but we know that this whole campus is surrounded, yeah, yeah, it looks like there are several different police units.

There you also have riot police, you have uniformed officers who are I think it's called the New York Police Department's Strategic Response Unit, uh, those are the ones at the door, um, you have, I mean, this is a Huge deployment of officers, hundreds and hundreds of officers, do you have any idea how many protesters there are? Speaking of so many officers, we saw protesters in front of two of the main gates of Columbia University and, if I had to estimate, it would be about 200,300 protesters. I'm counting right in front of me, dozens of police officers over and over again.

There weren't many details given by University officials prior to this massive rampage, this massive crackdown coming from the NYPD. I mean, everything we heard from Columbia University officials at their 5:00 p.m. briefing. Eastern time, today is that talks. It had broken down, uh, that they were handing out suspensions and that those inside Hamilton Hall were facing expulsions, but in terms of what kind of police presence they were going to bring in, uh, they didn't give us any details about that and, you know We were talking earlier about arrests, this has been unfolding on campuses, I mean, no not up to this point, but on campuses in North America we've been counting people who have been arrested and I gather it's now about 1,400.

Between 14 and 1,500 people have been arrested at various college protests in the United States this month, so it will be interesting to see what happens with those cases, what happens with those people, and certainly what happens tonight. I need a little information from the authorities here, so let's bring in Brian Higgins, now he's a former Bergen County police chief, who I believe is in New Jersey, sir, thank you for joining us, what do you think of what do you see? I think the NYPD is taking a measured approach. I think I think this is a long time coming.

It should have happened a long time ago. It shouldn't have gotten to this point when you say measured approach as a layman. I see the riot police. I see that tactical vehicle. I don't know what it's officially called. People coming into the building don't, like a stranger, don't feel measured in the sense that it looks like that. It is an extreme step to take, if you see the officers, they are moving very slowly, they are not charging anyone, they are not going to come in with high-powered rifles, this is very, they are moving. Very slowly, we don't even see the interaction with the people inside the building.

It's true. So, they're very, they're taking their time and they're not rushing. What do you anticipate knowing how to monitor? The next steps will be the ones they will take when they enter this building and when they try to get the protesters out since they should not be parked. It will be up to the protesters whether they will comply with the officer's orders. instruction if not, if they continue to be belligerent, uh, if they don't move, they will have to be arrested and then physically removed by the NYPD and do you understand that, um? I mean, we don't know if tear gas has been fired. used will be used will be discouraged at this point do you think look those who are at this point who have taken over a building have not moved are leaving where they were told to leave are looking for really nice people? of these uh these photos these images so you would expect it to get to this level so that they tell the NYPD that they have to take again this measured approach this escalation of force um but I think at the end of the day if they find there is no other way possible, uh, they can deploy some kind of irritant for irritant, you mean tear gas or a chemical spray or something like that, yeah, pepper spray, chemical spray, something like that, um, while you're watching a scene like this, I guess the you look very carefully. different eyes than ordinary people, uh, what would start to worry you?

I mean, a lot of people are worried about what they're seeing right now. No one wants to see ambulances here, but what would be a sign that you'd be looking for that? I would be concerned about you as a Poli police officer, firstly, any instigation of agitation by the protesters, if this is really to clarify an issue, they are making their point, your goal should simply be to get the footage of being arrested doing a statement, uh, what I would be concerned about is that the protester's violence directed at the police, uh, or some type of weapon, there is something much more nefarious that attracts officers and this seems to be a different approach than a previous protest, i guess. earlier this month, there are a lot more officers here, it's just because the situation has changed, yes, they want, well, we are actually here tonight because of the way the protests have been handled all along.

I have seen multiple reports in interviews. from people basically saying if they arrest me, I'll be back here tomorrow, so you know, it got to this point where they had the NYPD and Columbia University had no choice, okay? and in all of this, people We're not talking much about Gaza, right, yeah, look, it's almost like the whole purpose of this is lost in what's happening right now, uh, and and that's going to be counterproductive, yeah, the whole idea, whatever the side, uh. you are protesting is to draw attention to your point of view on the topic and I don't know if the topic is going to take the first place here, maybe it's not the conversation that this action can become the conversation, listen, thank you.

Very much sir, we appreciate your time and we may contact you a little later. I'd like to get back on the streets and get back to Chris Rees and our cameraman Shan, who are there, we're watching. Since we can see Chris's police officers running a little bit still moving relatively slowly, but picking up the pace a little, what are you seeing? That's true, Adrian and just to confirm, uh, what did the police officer you were interviewing say? Right now the situation here feels like it's stagnant, so there are dozens of police officers standing around in riot gear, but they are waiting and there is no confrontation between the officers that we can see and the protesters that are in this area that has been barricaded against the sidewalk here.

I'm going to turn it over to Sean to allow you to show who is inside this area. These are all the protesters who were in front. from the door uh who have been demonstrating qualification um all day today uh they have been yelling a lot at the police officers that are here it is very obvious that they do not want this police presence they are shouting shame, can you hear that well Now, but there is no confrontation and there was a very deliberate move by the NYPD to calmly move journalists away from that area in front of the gate into this space that has now been completely cut off from the road.

We're still looking at that huge truck in front of Hamilton Hall. I want to mention that again for our viewers who are just tuning in, there are dozens of police officers here. I don't want to give you a firm count because I don't want to get it wrong, but almost everywhere there are police officers here, the crowd is getting a little quieter right now, just five minutes ago, just in the last five minutes, because I think is what everyone is wondering. It's again what happens next, what happens from here now that the police officers have moved to Hamilton Hall now that there have been some arrests, what happens now and Chris was I want to say one more thing Adrian I want to say one anything more than that What has been missing in all of this is that we have not seen anyone from the University come out with any type of statement or address any of the protesters, so what you have here are journalists from all over the world. protesters who have been here almost all day and only police officers so we didn't hear anything from University officials at all and when was the last time you heard from University officials in some kind of official capacity ?

University officials held a briefing at 5:00 p.m. ET today and it was very vague, they talked, they confirmed that talks had broken down and that they were handing out suspensions that those inside Hamilton Hall were going to be expelled, but it didn't make sense even in that briefing. Just that was just 4 hours ago that they were going to bring in police officers to start cleaning up the campus and I, I'm just pausing there, Adrien, because I'm always listening to see, uh, if anything's happening down the street. . because again we are like locked in this barricaded area and we can only see part of what is happening, this is a huge campus, we are on one side, we know that on the other side there are also police officers and at all the entrances.

And there are about a dozen different gates to Columbia University, all of that has been closed. We should also mention that this University is currently under a shelter in place, which gives you an idea of ​​how quickly things have escalated since this camp. It was since this camp was set up on campus, almost two weeks ago, now it was interesting, you're listening, go ahead, no, we're hearing more possibilities. I just want to pan over, Sean again to show you some of where. Those chants come from protesters yelling at the police saying it's your fault, it's your fault.your control, so we understand that Chris from Columbia University has issued a statement and you could read it here, it says a little after 9:00 p.m.

This afternoon, the NYPD arrived on campus at the request of the University. This decision was made to restore safety and order in our community. The decision to contact the NYPD was in response to the protesters' actions, not the cause they are defending. We have made it clear. that Campus life cannot be endlessly interrupted by protesters who violate the rules and the law, which is reportedly a statement that just came out of Columbia University, just a few minutes ago, I want to add to that statement that Adrian issued this afternoon. They also said that the disruptions on campus have created a threatening environment for many of our Jewish students and faculty and that some of the accusations against these demonstrations have been anti-Semitic in nature and Columbia University officials have confirmed that they have received reports of reports of actions and language that are anti-Semitic in nature and that was one of the reasons they wanted to restore peace and order on campus.

Bee from sea to river. You already know your previous comments. Chris on the police's relatively calm stance at the moment, you know, even though the images may seem very dramatic, but if you tell us that the feeling is more common than before, that speaks to what Brian Higgins was. To say earlier about that would have been intentional on the part of the police to try to slow things down, not look like they were running, not look like they were running, just trying to bring the temperature down, if that's possible, with all the riot gear, yeah. I mean, right now it's calmed down and it's calmed down a little bit because I mean we were up in the air when this situation very quickly went from a peaceful protest in front of the door and then all of a sudden hundreds of police officers moved in .

I mean, you could probably feel how frantic it was and that's because we were in the middle of that very active protest and I'm trying to move our cameraman Sean out of the way while the protesters were putting up the barricades on the road. and that was the biggest confrontation we saw tonight as soon as they were able to get the protesters inside a barricaded area across the street from the University. Things started to calm down, but then of course there was the surprise of seeing that huge NYPD vehicle with a ladder now raised at Hamilton Hall and then again at Impact seeing the police officers enter that building through that emergency vehicle, but just in the last 10 or 15 minutes things have calmed down and people are waiting to see what happens from here, okay Chris, because I'll tell you.

It doesn't look like these protesters are going home anytime soon, no, and it doesn't look like the police are either, so Chris, please, you and Sean hold on a moment, uh, Sasha Petk will be joining us again from our Washington Office, Um Sasha. I know you've been paying attention not only to these protests in Colombia and New York but across the United States, which tells me about the ripple effect here, well, police involvement is pretty much par for the course in terms of what's been happening. Across the country, police have been called in primarily to deal with these things.

We've seen some scenes in the last 24 hours in Virginia and Texas, elsewhere, that have been much more dramatic than what we're seeing here. very measured approach compared to those, but we have also seen in a couple of cases, in particular, universities negotiating with the protesters and reaching an agreement for the protests to end and for the universities to somehow address this key issue of divesting or eliminating investments in companies and holdings that are somehow connected to Israel, I'm talking about Brown University, the Ivy, the League, the school in Rhode Island, I'm talking about the northwest outside of Chicago , both managed to end their protest today this afternoon through negotiations. and get a commitment that protests will not happen again before the start, meaning that the school year will be able to end normally and that the boards of directors of these uh universities will actually address the issue of investments in companies that are connected with Israel, so those are places where the issue that you mentioned before this issue of uh from Gaza about what's happening in the Middle East actually came to the fore and there was some success on the part of the protesters, any word is night of any politician. in the United States from the White House from Congress from the senators do you hear anything?

Well, all day there have been calls from a lot of these people that we're talking about, uh, you know the speaker of the house, uh, we're talking about. about other governors uh uh basically calls that this should have been uh this should have happened we should have seen the police moving in New York a long time ago and uh and and a constant call that this was endangering the lives of uh of Israelis uh I'm sorry, Jewish students who are on campus here who didn't want, didn't want this to continue, so this has basically been a rallying cry all day here in Washington and also around the country, especially among legislators.

Republicans and some Democrats too, but Republican lawmakers, particularly President Joe Biden, said nothing today about what was going on, except, as I mentioned before, that the White House has simply repeated that free speech is something that is appreciate. in this country it's okay Sasha thank you if you can hold on I want to thank Chris Reyes who is in New York don't go anywhere Chris no I don't think you can anyway Allison Northcot is also watching from Montreal. So, long story short, about an hour ago, New York City police entered Columbia University, they entered a room that had been Hamilton Hall and had been occupied by pro-Palestinian protesters.

A number of New York Police Department police units entered, including a SWAT team. who physically entered the building we have seen several arrests uh, you see the riot police in front of you now we are going to be aware of this you are watching the

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on CVC thank you for joining us uh, we are seeing a A rupture and very tense situation is becoming developing in New York City right now. This is the national program. I'm Adrienne Arseno. You're looking at the scene at Columbia University. About an hour ago, hundreds of NYPD officers suddenly moved in to clear out Pro Palestine. protesters, people who had set up camps, who had occupied a facility on campus called Hamilton Hall, the police are in tactical gear, we know there have been arrests, we've had people in the streets all night, Chris Reyes is our reporter on the ground together with The cameraman uh Sean conoy together they have been dodging protesters and the police to get an idea of ​​what is happening Chris, he feels like an outsider.

I'm not there, but it seems much quieter than it did about an hour ago. You can describe it? what you're seeing, seeing and feeling, yes, I mean, that's the right way to describe it, Adrian, things have calmed down a bit, given that the police officers are currently standing across the street and right in front of us. We are in a barricaded area in front of the gates of Columbia University and just an hour ago this was a very active and escalated situation for our viewers who are just tuning in, let me give you an idea of ​​what happened within that hour.

There were, I would say, hundreds of protesters in front of the door, they had been there all day and there were rumors that they were going to bring in NYPD officers to clear this campus, but that was not the case. confirmed and in the last hour hundreds of police officers arrived and that was when this increasingly intense situation occurred in which the protesters saw the police officers very agitated, very angry, they began to move some of the barricades, they themselves, towards the street. street and then very quickly the police officers started breaking up the people, moving them around us including H and then eventually moving us to this barricaded area across the street and I'm just going to have Sean turn around to show them exactly where.

We are, you see, some of the protesters are here and the journalists who are covering the story from around the world are in this area with us and right now it is a calm situation as people really just turn their eyes towards this building of here this is H this is the academic building on campus that was taken over by pro-Palestinian protesters last night and we saw dozens of police officers using that huge emergency vehicle uh uh hoist a ladder into uh that building and then enter the building and we haven't seen uh we haven't seen them come out at least from this Vantage Point.

What we have also not seen since this V Vantage Point are mass arrests. I have personally seen one or two people. being arrested, you see that the police officers here also carry batons and zip ties, but we don't, we didn't see many arrests right in front of us, but this is just one of the entrance entrances to On campus there is also another big door right next to it. another side of campus on Broadway and we know there are officers there as well, so there are a lot of people standing and waiting for both the protesters and the police officers who are here. so a couple of things stand out to me first of all, thank you for that, thank you for staying calm, tonight, in all that chaos, you know the police have suggested that some of the people protesting are outside agitators, ha There's been some attention where the proof of that is, we too, the people you were asking before where Columbia University is, now we know that they issued a statement in the last hour or so about the decision that Columbia made to bring in the police from New York to campus, they keep it.

It was in an effort to restore safety and order in the community, uh, to quote a response to the quote, the protesters who chose to escalate the situation, that's how the University puts it, believe that it appears that a group broke in and occupied the building and that it is run by people who are not affiliated with the university again there is that accusation that has been repeated often um and they went on to say and this was a point that they wanted to emphasize that this decision was about the actions of the protesters . It's not because they're defending one of Adrian's difficulties in covering this story, it's just that it's impossible to represent all the different points of view.

If you talk to any of the protesters here, they would never describe anyone who is part of their movement and who is protesting with them as agitators or outsiders I heard that NYPD briefing uh it almost felt like a warning shot uh when they said that uh they said that they had proof and that they had proof uh that those who are inside right now uh Hamilton Hall are not Columbia University students. They showed photographs, videos and other images of those protesters who appeared to be breaking windows and blocking the entrance and exits of that building and said they knew those faces.

No, they didn't go into much detail about what they meant by that, whether those protesters had, you know, police records with other protests, but they did say that they believed they were non-Columbia University students and it almost felt like a gunshot. warning that this was the reason they were moving tonight. Alright, interesting observation Chris, stay safe, hang on. Sasha Petk will join us again tonight from our Washington Office. So, Sasha, you've been keeping an eye on not only this protest in New York, which is big and has been going on for a while, but you've also been watching some of the other protests in the United States.

I've seen them here in Canada too, uh, what surprises you about what you're seeing tonight, well, a couple of things, first of all, it's consistent in terms of the police moving around, it's consistent with what's been going on. in the United States, um during the In the last few days, Colombia started rolling and as these protests spread throughout the country, we have seen different universities debating how they should deal with it and in most cases they have called the police. The difference is that in most cases the police have been much more aggressive when they first entered these various campuses.

We don't know how this is going to end, but certainly from the beginning this has been much more moderate, it seems. It's a police force that doesn't really want to look like they're stomping around campus and moving aggressively, but we've certainly seen that even in the last 24 hours in Virginia and Texas and other places, police forces are coming in and brandishing batons and arresting people. and that has been the nature of it all, however, also across the country we have seen some notable cases where universities havemanaged to negotiate their way out of this type of thing to listen to what the students were demanding and find some kind of solution, I'm talking about Brown University, which is in Rhode Island, it's an Ivy League school, Northwestern, which is in Illinois, outside of Chicago, both. today I managed to reach an agreement with the students to limit the protests and basically get rid of the protests for the rest of the year, that is, through the graduation exams, everything else that is happening to create calm again and in return that the students obtained is a promise from those universities with which they will consider cutting ties with companies and with investments that are in some way connected to Israel, that is one of the main demands of the students in Colombia and in all the different universities and, through negotiations, these two schools in At least I was able to reach an agreement that ended and prevented the police from entering the campuses and acting in this way.

It is interesting that those types of precedents will be observed very carefully by those who know some steps. behind it is the establishment of camps in Montreal and in other parts of this country, uh, for example, I'm curious to know where the political needle is in the United States, what kind of movement these protests have created, if any. It's been interesting because most of the statements and there were a lot of statements today, especially I think the occupation of the building unleashed a lot of people, there were a lot of statements here in Washington, there were statements from the governors in other parts of the country, um, in the Republican side, I'm sure most of them were basically saying, send the police, um, and that, um, that, the Jewish students were at risk, this was anti-Semitic and basically, what are you waiting for? um among Democrats. it was a little more measured uh we didn't hear much, we didn't really hear anything from Joe Biden himself the white house uh did point out that it respects freedom of speech, they also pointed out that uh to the students who actually occupied this building and they thought that was the wrong approach, but it was much more measured politically, so the divide between the two parties can be said to be an election year, no joke, okay Sasha, I'll stay there for a second.

I would like to address former RCMP deputy commissioner Pierre e bura, who is now in Ottawa, so former deputy commissioner, thank you for being with us. I know you're looking at this through a very different lens through that. surveillance and I'm curious to know what's going through your mind right now. Well, it's interesting. I'm looking at the deployment and the number of officers. What's in?What's happening is that initially, as you indicated, there was a little bit of commotion at first when the police showed up, then they managed to get into that building and I imagine there's a fair amount of action currently taking place inside. the building to make the arrest or try to move people from inside the building to the outside so that the crowd appears to be in wait and see mode and that is what is probably happening currently, wait and see, but from experience I can safely say that even though it seemed quite subdued, if there is any event that could trigger an emotional reaction from the crowd, then things could change quite quickly, so that's why, look at your camera angles and the number of police officers there are currently around this. particular building and some of the movement will be dictated by what is currently happening inside the building, so if the law enforcement agencies involved affect these arrests peacefully and people leave peacefully and get on the bus, then I suspect things would remain fairly calm However, like I said, all you need is something that can trigger a crowd reaction that could potentially overwhelm the police officers on the ground and I also imagine that you know we're watching This is something that's happening tonight. , but the sun will rise tomorrow and the anger that started all of this won't have suddenly disappeared.

We know that Columbia University has asked the NYPD to stay to have a presence on campus. until at least May 17th, that's because commencement is May 15th, you have 15,000 students ready to graduate, so what needs to happen tomorrow to ensure people are safe? Well, it's a huge task, as you've indicated, and the reason why there has to be a long-term game plan for the NYPD to work and be in contact with the university authorities just to ensure that the students can actually go to their exams and can attend some of their classes and the reason why there has to be and I'm sure the NYPD has really planned for the long term, with respect to the resources that should be deployed in strategic locations on this particular campus, but it's a huge task, as you stated earlier, these buildings are You know, it's quite a challenge to protect some areas of the campus, that's why the NYPD needs to work collaboratively. with other law enforcement agencies and university authorities.

How concerned are you about Canada on these Canadian campuses? Well, I'm pretty sure that law enforcement agencies, especially in Montreal, Vancouver, where there have been protests, are actually paying close attention to what's currently happening in New York and other parts of the United States because it could There is a repo effect in our country, so far everything has been quite peaceful, but the fact of the matter is that there are some legal considerations and the University, the authorities in Canada are simply taking illegal measures and we may see something like that. This is similar to what we're currently witnessing in New York, among us in Canada, well, I mean it's certainly a daunting prospect for a lot of people, this is a really difficult time for people, actually, and listen. thank you very much, former deputy commissioner of the RCMP pi b, thank you, thank you for being with us tonight, it's my pleasure, we talked about some things there.

I just want to let people know about a few things, if so. As you join us, you're looking at about an hour and a half after New York City police entered the Columbia University campus, particularly Hamilton Hall, which is an area that had been a building that had been taken over by Palestinian protesters. You're seeing there, for example, some of the buses, the NYPD buses that brought in the riot police, several police units, there's a Strategic Response Unit, uh, that's been at the door, there's been , uh, oh, those seem to be protesters, I think possibly. people arrested, but we also saw a large vehicle, bringing in riot police, you see some of them there, some police broke the windows of Hamilton Hall and came in now, there aren't many, there aren't many.

There are a lot of eyes on what's going on inside Hamilton Hall. Columbia is a university that has a great journalism program, so there are some great young journalists from wkcr, which is a campus radio station, who have been inside Hamilton Hall. and they have been informing as best they could throughout the entire process. The night we meet, many of them have been told to leave and if you saw that bus go by, you can assume that some of them were also taken away. Several people have been arrested, we do not have an exact count. However, of the arrests, we only had one statement from Columbia University, not long ago, people were wondering when the school would speak and the statement is indeed a little after 9:00 p.m.

This afternoon, the NYPD arrived on campus at the request of the University. The decision was made to restore safety and order to our community. The decision to contact the NYPD was in response to the actions of protesters who have chosen to escalate the situation and the statement went on to say that the decision was due to the actions of the protesters, not the cause. that they defend, which is why we have several reporters who are on the case. We've been listening to Chris Rees and cameraman Shan Conoy, who are on the streets of New York, you've heard Sasha criticize in Washington, we're trying to keep track of how many people have been arrested in the United States, by the way, in the last few days. , and in weeks we believe the count is between 14 and 1500 people who have been arrested, you have another bus full right in front of you, with people being taken from the Colombia campus and I'm going to talk to Chris Reyes if she can.

Listen to me Chris, if you can, if you can hear us now, can you tell us what's going on on that bus? Okay, so we don't have Chris, which is totally understandable. They've been trying to get to a safe place to report, but as we watch this bus of protesters being taken away from inside Hamilton Hall. I don't see their hands, so I'm going to assume that many of them are being held back by those zip ties. We go to Montreal with Allison Northcot, who joins us by phone from the Montreal

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room, but Allison, have you been to those protests in Migel today, yeah, and there's still a camp there, there's about 50 tents , today was the fourth day they were there, the university. she asked them to leave, I told them to leave, we saw them come out yesterday with a megaphone and tell the protesters that this is their last warning and then they said that now they asked the police for help, Migel says yes.

I tried to talk to the protesters but they couldn't reach an agreement. We have not yet seen a police presence at the scene. But there was a court order that was filed today by an attorney representing two Mill students that says those students sit down. threatened and feared on campus, so the court order calls for a 10-day ban on protesting within 100 meters of McGill buildings for several different pro-Palestinian groups, so it says they need some parameters and some controls around of the protest and should be off campus so the students he represents can feel safe, but other attorneys at today's hearing who were arguing against the court order said it's not just about safety, it's about quelling protests. criticism of Israel and the right to protest, so The judge said she needs to take time to consider both arguments and hopes to make a decision tomorrow so that can have an impact on these protests because so far we have not seen the police come in , but they have indicated that if there were a court order to remove the camp, that would cause them to act on a court order.

So the protesters have said they have no intention of leaving. They have been watching how things have developed on different campuses in the US. They say they are ready for a possible confrontation with the police and they will continue to be there and continue to make demands on Migel, so for the moment they are just waiting and seeing what might happen. move on next, and Allison. While we're talking about Migel, it's not the only university, excuse me, in Montreal, certainly, and not even the university cups, uh, high schools, many places, many campuses are paying attention to this and are experiencing one form or another of protest.

I see it happening at some of the other schools, including some of the French universities. Well, Migel uh camp has become a kind of place for students from these other universities, so they are students from Mill, but there are also students from Kebec University. Montreal University of Montreal the two French universities in Montreal as well as Concordia University, so all of these universities, including these downtown universities, they all demand their universities and Migel, so that's part of where it's located Mill campus. They have invited uh, other students from other universities, uh, and other supporters, uh, to come to campus as well and support the protest and in terms of the demands that are being made in Canada, I mean, we have seen what happens in Colombia and others.

Universities at Brown University, where they wanted universities to reconsider investment that was connected to Israel. The same demands, it's the same demand that they're talking about investing from companies and organizations with ties to Israel, so that's what all the protesters did. I have spoken with them, they say it is their main demand. You can see many posters and banners around the protest site, many different types of slogans and calls, but it is the main demand that they are asking and saying. that they will not leave the site until Migel hears that demand and responds to that demand and acts on that demand, so they say they will not leave unless that demand is met, okay, Allison Northcot, uh, thank you very much.

I appreciate that just to update our viewers, you're seeing some of what's happened over the last hour. The buses you have seen passing transportsome of the protesters who have been arrested. It was shortly after 9900 p.m. Uh and these are the photos when it started happening, shortly after 900 p.m. In New York City, when the police moved into Columbia University, particularly a place called Hamilton Hall on campus that had been taken over by pro-Palestinian protesters, they entered at the request of Columbia University itself, which had said it was because the protesters had chosen to escalate the situation and believed that the group that broke in and occupied the building was led by people not affiliated with the university, so over the course of the last hour the SWAT team, the Unit of Strategic Response, entered.

The riot police came in and started shooting. people, uh, most of our perspective has been from the outside. We have heard from some journalists affiliated with Columbia's journalism program inside Hamilton Hall that they have, in fact, seen people who are not affiliated with the university and not had much communication. The police maintained that some of them have been asked to leave, so while we look at these photos, I would like to take us back to Chris Rees and our cameraman Sean Conaboy, who are on the ground, in New York, what has changed, Chris? Well, me. I will tell you that I saw one of those NYPD buses transporting protesters who have presumably been arrested.

Here's another one right here happening. You can hear the applause of the protesters who stayed behind today. We saw some people in these. blue ACLU vests uh again presumably to help those who may have who to help those who would be arrested tonight uh right now the mood has calmed down I don't want to say calm because there's an intensity uh that hasn't calmed down gone uh, this whole area since the police came in, but right now there's not much movement, you see a lot of police officers, uh, in riot gear, batons with those zip ties, uh, but they're standing around, essentially, almost protecting this area we are in. where the reporters and protesters who were across the street when they arrived moved to they arrived about an hour ago and we haven't seen any movement since Hamilton Hall, this building that is an academic building on the camp campus, that's essentially You know, a symbol of the turning point, of this escalation, protesters took over that building overnight.

We have seen videos and images of broken windows from furniture brought in, blocking exits and entrances, you may not be able to read. You can't even see it from here, but there are banners hanging on the building, one of them says Free Palestine and the protesters who took over this building renamed it Hind Hall in honor of Hind Rajab, the six-year-old Palestinian girl who was murdered. in Gaza and you know we were here all day on the Adrian campus and we were also here last week and one of the things we heard from protesters is that feeling with this kind of confrontation with University officials with the Spectrum. that possibly they brought in the police that their message was going to be lost and that message is in support of those in Gaza, it is in support of those who are fighting to free the Palestinians and again to create that symbol that they named. this Hall behind the Hall and which has been at the heart of these protests right now, the focus is entirely on what will happen next on campus.

With the camp here now approaching two weeks, there have been negotiations and talks between officials and student organizers that have failed in recent days. one of the demands of the student organizers is that the university completely get rid of Israel, that was a demand rejected by the university and you read that statement that university officials just released today saying that they believe the group that stormed Hamilton Hall and occupied the building, they are not affiliated with the university and that is one of the reasons they decided to bring in the police today and we heard that from the NYPD as well in their briefing this afternoon, they showed images of Images of surveillance that they show some of those who were part of the demonstrations that they say they believe they are not students of Colombia University, they called them professional agitators, okay, listen, Chris, thank you very much while we talk, we're just going to play a few.

From the pictures of the buses that passed by some of the arrests that were made because we need to talk about these arrests, there are people who keep track of how many college students and people have been arrested on campus in the United States during the Over the course of of the last few weeks, the arrest that you're seeing tonight will add to the tally of between 14 and 1,500 people who have been detained in the last few weeks, the hope is that, um, is that there is a better path than this uh, you are the ACLU blue vest you referenced.

You just saw a photo of someone there who is what's called a protest monitor for the American Civil Liberties Union. That person is just trying to collect people's names trying to connect them. with lawyers if necessary to see what charges people face or if we just let them go. We've had another statement from Chris in the last few minutes and it's interesting because we've been asking Sasha Petk in Washington.

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from politicians anywhere because you know they're watching this, what are they saying? Alexandria Orazio Cortez, who is the U.S. Congresswoman for New York's 14th Congressional District, we're talking about this area, she says if any children are hurt tonight, the responsibility will fall. about the mayor and the university presidents, other leaders, according to her, in the schools have found a safe way to reduce tension.

This is the opposite of leadership and endangers public safety. It's a nightmare in the making. I urge the mayor to reverse course. There may be more statements out there. We haven't really seen many of them, certainly, it took the university a while until after 9:00 this afternoon, well this was already underway before we heard the statement from the University itself, so while we look at this footage, let's bring in Martin Stolar, he's been defending protesters for 50 years, he joins us from New York right now, so Martin, can you tell us about the potential legal ramifications of all these people being arrested?

People have been arrested. It is not clear to me if these are people who are at Hamilton Hall or who were simply part of the camp and depending on where they were arrested, the question will first be whether they should be charged or not, which is a decision that the police department You can take. let them go, but if they're going to be charged, the people at the camp are probably going to be charged with just the type of conduct of not obeying an order to leave um and that's a New York violation, it's not a crime and it's not something . that will result in a criminal record if the people they are removing from Hamilton Hall are charged, if in fact that has happened, then the most likely charge they will face is a Class B misdemeanor called criminal trespass, and that is a crime under Law of New York that had a maximum sentence of 90 days, but as someone who has represented protesters for a long time if it is a peaceful non-violent arrest and the only charge is trespassing, it will likely never result in a sentence of jail for anyone who is arrested.

There are other dispositions of cases like that that will hopefully result in college students having a clean and equal record, but Martin, what about their academic records? What's happening? You know, graduation is May 15. You have 15,000 students who are trying to graduate. happens with your academic records here, the school will probably make efforts to suspend or expel several students, those they can identify, those who have been arrested and others they can identify, this has already happened at Columbia, there are some very complex ones. rules and regulations about how they have to follow the procedures to do that, among the lawyers that I am affiliated with in the National Lawyers Guild, we have been training to be able to represent Columbia students to try to preserve their ability to graduate or even enroll and hopefully we can do that and resolve things in a peaceful and very successful way.

What do you think of what you're seeing tonight? This reminds me a lot of what happened in Columbia. in 1968, the fact that the police were invited to campus is a bit traumatic. Columbia, as a university, has had a long history of protest occupations of buildings, encampments built on the university campus, and they have not invited police since. 1968 um, the excuse they use and what I heard some of their people talk about is that there are outside agitators who are responsible for this reminds me of the same type of cries that were raised in the protests of the civil rights movement and the movement against war. movement that led to what happened in Colombia in '68 huh, it's a claim that students don't think for themselves that students are so stupid that they have to be fooled by outside agitators, that's complete nonsense, these are students elite, this is an elite university, you can't tell me this is an outside agitator who is solely responsible for what happens in the campus occupational buildings and raising prices is something that is on the administration's mind because it seems who refuse to reach an agreement or at least negotiate.

In a peaceful way, I remember what happened today at Brown University, where the administration and the students who were in a camp reached an agreement that Brown would take a very close look at its investments in Israel and this is not necessarily a series of pro-Palestinian demonstrations throughout the country and around the world. It is a series of proace demonstrations. It is against the war in Gaza and against the way the Israelis are carrying out the war that has led to the devastation in Gaza. We have to be Pro Hamas to be a peace protester and it is a false flag to suggest that is the case, so students participating in this are possible suspensions or expulsions, but what they are demonstrating is a possible violation of the school rules.

I can convince the school administrators to allow students to graduate and continue to enroll, so Martin, thanks for that, and you know that people who have been around a long time sometimes see the police on campus and They have those terrible flashbacks of people like Kent State. You know, a long time ago, but those images were terrible. The violence that occurred in Kent stayed in, you know, this time we see no evidence of weapons or explosive devices and the police certainly in New York have been restrained uh the protesters themselves have been very peaceful um if the police want to arrest them, then they will accept arrest, they will not even remain inert, so you know, it's not something that is a violent protest that is not you know, that's what they supposedly called the police, because these are not violent people, they are very non-violent college students. violent people who have a very sincere desire to make their views known and have the police invade the university campus, which is a hotbed of academic freedom.

And the thought is truly a tragedy Martin, we really appreciate your insights tonight. Thank you so much. You are welcome. Take care of yourself. As you look at the photos, here it looks like the police are returning to their vehicles. We now understand that the protesters are being evacuated. The police are, according to wkcr, Columbia student radio police are escorting the remaining students off campus or to their dorms, which is beginning to suggest that what began to unfold a few hours ago in May will end by tonight. , this is not the End of the story, just to catch you up shortly after 9:00, the NYPD entered the campus of Columbia University in New York City, particularly Hamilton Hall, a combination of riot police and other uniformed police officers, they arrested several students who didn't I don't have an accurate count yet uh they basically stood at every entrance to the University remained for those anxious few minutes that seemed quite frightening uh appears to have remained relatively calm we know They've arrested people it looks like some of the police are leaving, so this is a time where we're going to take a short break, but we'll be back in a few moments.

You are watching the national program e e e e e thank you for joining us. You are watching live footage from New. This afternoon in York City it is around 10:11 p.m., but almost two hours ago Columbia University asked the NYPD to enter the campus, maintaining that the protesters' actions had brought them to a point where they needed help. of the police, uh, and that's what we've been seeing for the last two hours, police officers standing in a tactical vehicle, uh, there, then Ed walked into Hamilton Hall, which is a facility on campus where protesters gathered.They had barricaded themselves in and that's why the university asked the police to come in and get them out.

They've been making arrests. We have seen riot police, people with zip ties, taking students away on buses. And we've also been watching the ACLU. American Civil Liberties Union people in blue vests taking notes counting how many people have been arrested and making sure they're connected to lawyers had a number of observations from people who know the police this afternoon that the NYPD, I mean , it came to this. a different discussion, but that while on the ground the NYPD has been relatively quiet, there has been no suggestion at this time, although we cannot see what is happening within any violence, any tear gas, any weapons that are being used, just to hit them. an idea as to why this happened again, the president of Colombia said with the utmost regret, we requested the help of the New York Police Department to remove people from Hamilton Hall and all buildings on campus again, they are arguing that this It is not about the cause that the students are protesting for. and trying to make your case is about your actions, so I would like to mention, since we are talking about this University, Bruce Robbins, who is a professor at Columbia.

Professor, what is he feeling right now? This has to be very very strange, very difficult for you as you watch what is unfolding on campus, it is very strange and very difficult, um, I have to say that I feel angry, much like you, your previous guest, the protesters Outside on Amsterdam Avenue they're singing, uh, what a shame! I think it's a shame that the administration called the police. It reminds me of 1968, when it was a terrible mistake. I think it showed that it shows a huge lack of historical perspective on the part of the administration that they are willing to do something like that. doubling down on the mistakes of 1968 and the language they have used has been particularly humiliating for me.

I think of Colombia as a place that tries to maintain intellectual standards and you know they talk about Law and Order, which is the same language that Donald Trump is using Law and Order brings me back to the civil rights movement in the United States because the same kind of argument was used against people who were fighting for civil rights in the American South and were arrested for reasons such as loitering or trespassing. um when you know we now recognize that the cause of the civil rights protesters was completely just um I think the sense of historical perspective is much stronger on the part of the protesters again who have been talking about divestment and reminding people of the enormous movement in Columbia in the 1980s in favor of divesting from South Africa aside.

I would have thought the administration would realize that divestment turned out to be a good idea as far as white supremacist South Africa is concerned. I think the killing that's going on in Gaza compares pretty well to that in South Africa and this is not something that the administration would want to remind people of, so yeah, I mean, I think the Administration has alienated the Faculty very seriously. and a little to my surprise. They have really alienated the students. Today we had a department meeting in which the faculty expressed a surprising amount of solidarity, but also, forgive me, the students.

We received a request from a large proportion of the English students at Columbia and what I would have expected from them was solidarity with the students, that the department should express solidarity with the suspended students, so student solidarity with other students is something to wait, that's not what they emphasized, what they emphasized was that they wanted the English Department. power to think seriously about divestment, not at all what I would have expected, but the images that young people have been seeing on their social media from Gaza of all the killings, um, not mediated, not cured, not without any control, forgive me by the CBC or the newYork Times or any other watchdog through social media.

I think all those images have had a great impact on young people and have really made a symbol of what Israel is doing in Gaza, not Israel as such, but what Israel is doing in Gaza. of political evil in our time uh political evil for the younger generation um and I think that's one reason why the movement has spread as quickly as it has in so many places um I think it has it has a future um yes yes uh the president of Columbia thought she was going to shut things down at Columbia, she's wrong and I don't think anyone is going to shut this down anywhere, that's my speech and of course you know tonight ends, tomorrow begins, uh, it's another day You know these worries don't go away overnight.

How worried are you about the ability to continue school in Colombia? continue with the conversations how worried are you about the whole atmosphere there? Well, the atmosphere in Colombia was actually quite civilized, the protesters when they camped in the tents on the grass were extremely civilized, completely non-violent, did not threaten anyone's safety, so it seems to me that the possibility of a speech civilized never disappeared. That's true for teachers, too. Actually, I don't worry about that. I am concerned about the deep alienation between the administration and the faculty now that the administration has the power. Not the faculty, but it would be very difficult for the administration to continue to administer if they have completely lost the faculty, at least in the humanities and social sciences, I don't know about the medical school or the sciences, which in general have taken somewhat different positions, but such Maybe not on this, so, I don't know, I mean classes are over for now, it's just exam period.

I don't know if professors will hand out grades, for example, allow students to graduate on time, because that's them. I have to say that we are very angry with the administration for this, and you know, I don't know what. form this will take I would be surprised if it didn't take a pretty dramatic form when you call the police you have to expect a pretty dramatic reaction Professor Ribbons uh, thanks for your insights tonight, just as we've been Talking about it, we've been watching the police, As you can see, the vehicles are leaving, they are patting each other on the back in some cases, we saw an officer addressing the cameras, it's not entirely clear what he said.

I'll try to try to get it, but it's been students at the center of this tonight, so it makes sense that we talk to a Canadian student in Colombia that we're talking about. uh Desiree Nick faram um. I assume Desiree you are a journalism student so what a thing for you to witness, can you give us an idea of ​​what happened when the police arrived? Yes, absolutely, thank you for calling me. My colleagues and I are covering the events of tonight and around. Just after 9:00 p.m. m., the police entered the campus through the East South gate which is at 1114 in Amsterdam and slowly made their way to Hamilton Hall, where students were occupying the building and they crowded around or, you know, surrounded the crowd and started to push Many students were pushed into two residential buildings, John J and Wallet, while the rest of us were pushed to 114th Street in Amsterdam and then when we were pushed, we were pushed further towards a barricade in Amsterdam, where we remained. for about an hour, so unfortunately there were no witnesses on the ground to see the students occupying Hamilton Hall being arrested or removed from the building.

I'm not sure if you work with W kcr, which is the Columbia campus radio station, um, they had some journalists that were inside Hamilton Hall, they've been doing really great reporting, um, and trying to verify some facts in real time. , but I wonder as a journalist. what has it been like for you talking to students on campus in the last few weeks what have the conversations been like what has the feeling been like yeah, well, I mean towards the end, I would say that before these days, many of the protesters were distrustful of the media just because of the way they have been covered by the outside press, which makes it a little more difficult to engage in conversations with them, but overall the atmosphere on campus has been tense, before the New York arrests students and in terms of what happens next Desiree, what about your student year?

What about you? Yes, that is not decided yet. We haven't heard from the University, obviously, the president and the school have been putting out statements about whether or not to, or you know, try to encourage people to stop being camp, stop the protest, uh, allow students graduate, but I mean, based on the events of tonight, it's not very clear what's going to happen and it must be very awkward, um, yeah, it's a little strange we're just walking down um I mean, we're just walking down now where the barricades open and that's how we were, it's also strange as a reporter not being able to cover what's been happening, especially since it's just been on the ground. for so long witnessing this you absolutely know that that ability to not see something unfold is difficult, you don't know if you don't go, so we're glad you were as close as possible. you were and I'm so glad that you're okay and I wish you the best in your journalism career thank you thank you so let's get back to another return to the streets again with another journalist uh Chris Reyes Who's been there for so long Chris?

We've been watching the police leave. We understand that the NYPD said they did not use tear gas. They use flashbang devices. I guess they are distraction devices. What else can you tell us because this seems safe? Tonight is ending and you can certainly feel that from where we are, in fact, that barricaded area where we have been standing for the last hour, where we were surrounded by protesters, has completely cleared, it is. Actually, it's mostly just reporters left here. I'm looking at a bridge where students were lined up. Presumably students and perhaps supporters of the protesters.

They also cleared that area and then you can see that line. of police that were in front of us are no longer here and they're starting to leave they're starting to move uh some of the vehicles that were here what we've seen in the last half hour Adrian are those big NYPD buses, one of them walked past us full of protesters and the crowd around us erupted in cheers when that happened, but I just want to show you what hasn't changed, across the street, the door. Columbia University is still completely on lockdown and closed. This is a campus that will remain closed tonight and presumably into tomorrow until Columbia University officials give us an idea of ​​what happens after this massive event that just occurred.

It took place tonight and I'm sure the protesters that were here, the students, it's going to take some time for them to process all of this and we'll look forward to hearing from officials tomorrow from the NYPD, you know more details of exactly what happened tonight. , actually, okay, Chris Rees, you're there with cameraman Sean Conaboy, thank you very much, over the course of the last two hours we've been watching the NYPD being invited to Columbia University by the university administration to expel the protesters. particularly from Hamilton Hall, a building on campus, we have seen several arrests, we have not seen what happened inside Hamilton Hall, there are stories to tell and we will be following, thank you for joining us, this is the national event. e e e e e e thank you for joining us, right now you're watching the scene at Columbia University where hundreds of police officers suddenly moved in tonight to remove pro-Palestinian protesters.

I'm Adrien Areno and this is the national that we have been following this breaking news. very closely after that sudden turn of events tonight, so the scene was loud and chaotic when officers in tactical gear descended around 9:00 p.m. local time, telling the protesters to leave and then entering Hamilton Hall to arrest the protesters who had taken over the university, saying that the news of that occupation left them no choice but to call the police, so in the As the night went on, once it got dark, I saw the NYPD come in with several different units.

There was a strategic Response Unit at the gates of Colombia. There was a tactical vehicle that came in and, as you can see, they broke into the buildings, into the windows of Hamilton Hall. where several of the protesters had barricaded themselves, it was very difficult to understand precisely what was happening inside Hamilton Hall. The journalists were detained and young journalists from Columbia, which has an excellent journalism school working for its campus radio station, had been reportingall night long, uh, but they were asked to move out too. Chris Reyes, uh, has been at the University tonight and over the last few weeks, alternately, depending on the connection, we have been able to talk to her.

I'm not clear if Chris is with us there now. she's fine so Chris, long strange night C can you explain to me what you're seeing there right now? Yes, a very intense night, huh, Adrian. I mean, right now this place is almost completely clear. I almost want to show you this empty street. Just half an hour ago, an hour ago it was full of police and emergency vehicles, protesters who had been placed in this barricaded area where the sea and I are, they have also cleared the space, what we have been seeing. the last hour are NYPD buses driving by, some of them transporting those protesters, presumably arrested protesters, because what we're hearing right now is reports that Hamilton Hall, this building right here, which is an academic building on campus, was taken over last night by pro-Palestinian protesters that has been completely cleared, remember that huge NYPD emergency unit vehicle, uh, that's what a military vehicle looked like, was against that building that was also cleared, uh, we're also hearing reports that the encampment inside the campus that's been there for almost two weeks and that's been cleared by the police and we've been standing here for the last two hours, right next to across the street from the gates of Columbia University, but this is just one of the entrances to the university.

This is a huge campus that takes up many blocks and there are many entrances here where there were police officers blocking off those areas, including the another big door on Broadway, which is right opposite, if you know, go in. the campus and walk through it uh that's another main gate and what we just saw here um is some of the activity that we know happened across this massive campus uh we don't have definitive numbers on the arrests that we witnessed some of them uh but we will have We'll wait to hear officially from the NYPD about exactly what happened tonight and we'll wait to hear from officials at Columbia University, Colombia, about what the next steps are, so that's a very good point.

There are so many questions to come out of here, we don't know what happened inside Hamilton Hall, stories will emerge in the coming days and we saw the police talking about not having to use tear gas. used some flashbangs but we still don't know what happened inside Hamilton Hall, we know that Columbia University has requested the presence of the NYPD until May 17, I think because graduation is approaching, you have 15,000 students who are about to graduate in terms of the arrests, Chris, is there anything you can tell us about which ex? What is the expectation that people will be charged?

Is it more than just breaking and entering? I mean, that's one of the charges mentioned by the NYPD. at their briefing um around I think it was at 6 pm before they moved uh they moved to this area so theft was another charge uh uh that they mentioned but what they did say is that it was going They're definitely charges particularly with regarding the protesters taking control of Hamilton Hall because again they have surveillance footage, they have pictures of what happened there overnight, they showed the press pictures of broken windows, they showed pictures of furniture essentially. blocking the entrances and exits of that building and then they said there will be charges and we also know from University officials that those students who refused to leave the camp that were being handed out uh, they were handing out uh Their suspensions for those students and then expulsions for the students, uh, who entered Hamilton Hall, but again I think there will be a lot of processing tonight, it's very difficult to represent this in the entire story given how many sides there are, I mean Adrien.

Depending on who you ask, you'll get a different description of what happened here tonight, who the protesters are, who's to blame, all of that, we'll just have to let it unfold overnight as we hear more of those. uh different parties tomorrow absolutely fine Chris, thanks to you and Sean for your measured report tonight uh many questions to come uh in the next few days and this may be over tonight, although this is not over, uh, the anger that started this has he hasn't left so Chris Rees Thank you very much for tonight, we now know that Montreal's McGill University is asking police to help deal with a camp there, but pro-Palestinian protesters say they won't leave, as he explains Alison Northcot, some students are now turning to the courts. take action if you really want some peace if you really want some peace out of the Middle East the university has ordered them to leave and asked the Montreal police to intervene but the protesters at McGill University say they are not going anywhere , people feel very fiercely being here um and I think it's going to be very difficult for Migel um and the spvm to get rid of that force the protesters are demanding migil dest a list of companies and organizations with ties to Israel the University says that the Camp is against their policies and the law, duration, and location just don't work on our campus, so those are the main reasons we have asked the police to intervene.

Mill says he saw video evidence of what he calls unequivocally anti-Semitic language. When we requested that evidence, they sent us a link to this video. Someone put text on the screen referring to the protesters as jihadists. CBC News has not independently verified its authenticity. Protesters here say their movement is not against Jews but against Israel and its actions. In Gaza, as the camp was into its fourth day, a lawyer representing two Mill students filed a court order seeking a 10-day ban on protests by various groups within a 100-meter radius of campus buildings. . People feel threatened. People are threatened.

You have to look at past conduct to understand current conduct to see future conduct, but other lawyers argued that the injunction request is not about security but about stifling criticism of Israel and the right to protest, it is abusive because basically what What is being asked is to block off a large part of the city center for all protests. The Prime Minister says the protests on Canadian campuses are having an impact on Jewish students right now across the country. Jewish students do not feel safe. That's not okay since the judge is considering an injunction. The camp remains.

We will not abandon it. We are very aware and prepared for it. the possible repercussions as protesters wait to see what happens next Allison Northcot CBC News Montreal now moving on to other news and a high-speed police chase on Canada's busiest highway that ended in tragedy: a baby and his grandparents killed the Ontario Police. The watchdog is now investigating, so this video captured part of the chase: The suspect was heading into oncoming traffic in a cargo van just east of Toronto, at least one police cruiser followed closely for minutes. then a devastating accident that killed four people.

Thomas D now talks about what led to the chase and questions about why it continued under such dangerous circumstances oh my goodness Drivers on Canada's busiest highway were shocked to see a U-Haul van speeding in the direction wrong, not far from the Durham police officer facing Chase, seconds later thick smoke could be seen billowing from a fiery crash that killed a The baby and his two grandparents, Brody Mills, captured the scene on video Monday by the night in disbelief. Speeds would be over 160 if I had to guess because I was doing 110 120 and it was like the IID had parked my truck on the road when they passed me, investigators say.

The chaotic chase began with a liquor store robbery witnessed by an off-duty officer. I'm thinking what is this guy doing going in the wrong direction. So I'm thinking it's coming too fast. I better move. The chase ended within 20 minutes, investigators say. ended with at least six vehicles colliding the driver of this transport truck escaped unharmed the suspect was the fourth person killed we will receive recordings of communications doing interviews to find out what happened, when and why Durham Regional Police has its own helicopter and is not Of course, whether officers considered requesting the helicopter or other means, police must be able to demonstrate later that if they had not pursued that vehicle, there would have been a greater risk to the public.

Ontario Police regulations state that an officer will not initiate a Vehicle Pursuit without first weighing the risk to public safety, that same topic was discussed on Provincial Police Radio, I just want to make sure Durham Sgt. knows who are driving in the official direction, someone is going to get hurt. Thomas, there was another person in the van that the police were chasing, what do we know about him? Ontario's special investigations unit has not said whether that man is considered a suspect or how he got to that cargo van that officers were chasing. Investigators have only said that the man was injured in all This as for Durham Regional Police, they acknowledge that this entire incident raises many questions, but they are not answering those questions publicly now while the police watchdog investigates what happened here.

Adrien, it's okay, thanks Thomas. Thomas' day in Ottawa was unusually tense and dramatic. scene in the House of Commons today opposition leader Pierre PV had what became a rowdy exchange with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and pev was expelled Kate McKenna now with what was said to a full gallery in the House of the Commons, including two school groups, got question period The unpleasant thing that has not been answered by the opposition leader is why he chooses to continue courting far-right nationalist groups. He always condemned extremism and racism, even of the kind that spent the first half of his adult life as a practicing racist as a Party.

The leaders hurled insults, the deputies roared, and the speaker lost control. I will ask all members to control themselves. The first to be expelled by Conservative MP Rachel Thomas for insulting the speaker. First the president is acting disgracefully, then things got even worse when the Prime Minister accused the opposition leader of courting extremists after visiting anti-carbon tax protesters earlier this month. It was a choice to please white nationalists. Mr. President, it is an option for him to implement extremist policies. Pier PV asked about BC requests to reverse the decriminalization of some hard drugs in an attempt to reduce the number of overdose-related deaths, when will we put an end to this crazy policy by this crazy prime minister?

No no there are a couple of things going on here today that are Not Acceptable PV was asked to remove the term Wacko and he repeatedly refused so he was banned too Mr. PV I have to name you for ignoring the author of the chair. Soon all the Conservatives left the chamber in protest within minutes. PV posted online saying he was censored who silences him he keeps saying stupid things would I think it would be good if he shut up shut up from time to time both sides sent out fundraising emails trying to cash in on the dust and that's why colleagues bring us to the end of a remarkable question period and are back on Wednesday Kate McKenna CBC News Ottawa now before things went bad in the POV house was questioned by reporters about comments he made about the justice system while Kathern Cullen reports that POV suggested he could override Charter rights to fight crime.

What were your comments yesterday? Tell us about his opinion of the Court. He clarifies about the Noning pier. PV is receiving a lot of attention for plans to alter the rules of justice, including changing the way violent criminals are punished. The multiple murderers. they will remain in maximum security and by the way they will have consecutive sentences not simultaneous multiple murders they will only be released from prison in a box on Monday he suggested at a police conference that he was ready to make many changes and if those changes violate the constitution we will make them constitutional, using any tool that the Constitution allows me to use to make them constitutional, that tool is the Notwithstanding Clause, the override switch for all the other Charter rights invoked by some provinces over the years, nofederal government has never used it.

It hasn't been used in 40 years and to think that it would be used in this particular case to impose what a court has already considered cruel and unusual punishment towards prisoners is truly astonishing, shocking. Pier PV just proposed nullifying the fundamental freedoms and protections of Canadians that is not correct and is not responsible paav maintains that democracy will act as a democratically accountable check to the people and they themselves will be able to make judgments about whether they believe my laws are constitutional , he wouldn't say how often he wants to lean on that override switch how often he's willing to use the Notwithstanding Clause to change rather than respond to views on the Quebec City mosque shooter that killed six people ?

The Supreme Court ruled that he could not face more than one life sentence PV I would change that rule, it will be consecutive sentences, so it will be six life sentences and we are going to make sure it is jail, not bail. It's going to be a difficult time for serious crimes, it's the courts. That decided that, sir, so what does that say about your view of the courts? He says my opinion is that I will decide on my platform. Thank you. It's okay, Katherine. There is a lot going on in Ottawa today. Can you help us understand where things are now?

Starting with what we saw in question period, well, both liberals and conservatives believe they can use this to their advantage. He dresses Kate up with a reference to fundraising, although the Conservatives disagree with the speaker and he's basically the referee, so we can expect more bumps in the road. Remember this all started with a question about decriminalization. Thousands of Canadians are dying of overdoses and yet political leaders insult them in terms of the politics of justice's point of view. Today he tried to reject journalists' questions, but this is a policy. It is likely that he is leaning towards him believing that more Canadians are concerned about crime than the Clause however there are serious doubts about how fundamentally he is prepared to change the Standards of Justice in this country Adrien is fine Katherine Cullen host of CBC Radio is the House in Ottawa Former US President Donald Trump has been arrested for contempt of court and fined for repeatedly violating a gag order, so the judge in Trump's hush money trial ruled that he violated the gag order. silenced nine times and for that he was sentenced to $99,000 ordered and has since deleted the offensive social media post, the judge also warned that Trump could be imprisoned if he violates the gag order in the United Kingdom again.

A terrifying scene in a residential area of ​​London this morning. A man carrying a sword killed a teenager and injured four others. people this is what witnesses said they woke up moments before police fired a Taser and arrested the 36-year-old suspect. Officials say the victims were attacked at random after a vehicle was driven into a home. Police say they do not believe this was terrorism. Well, King Charles returned to public duties today for the first time since revealing his cancer diagnosis, visiting patients at a cancer center and with oil about to start flowing down the Trans Mountain pipeline extension, some see an opportunity, others a threat to their communities. some concerns because now the risks are Aaron Collins continues his journey along the divided pipeline path Also, at a crucial point for Ukraine, Russia sets its sights on a key target, both sides Ukraine and Russia desperately want this piece of land Andrew Chang explains the strategic value of a small Ukrainian town, the national breaks down the history that shapes our world below. e e e diagnosis he chose to meet with cancer patients and their families and, as Brier Stewart shows us, Charles spoke about his own health, a crowd was waiting for the king's arrival outside a hospital in central London and also some curious onlookers who worked and lived nearby.

This was King Charles' official return to public duties since the palace announced that he was diagnosed with an unspecified form of cancer in February. How he feels, he seemed to respond that he didn't feel that bad. Inside he was greeted with a standing ovation and then the doctors gave him a quick tour that explained how they screen patients for cancer and the more cancer we diagnose earlier, the more patients we can cure. He and Queen Camilla spent most of their time meeting cancer patients and talking. He's been campaigning for many years, he's been working with cancer charities for many years, he's been making appearances like this, but now it has a different feel because he comes to this as someone who he really understands.

This from a personal perspective outside the hospital, well-wishers were happy to see him out and apparently in good spirits. I mean, it's good to see that he can go back to work and feel better and able to do it. I think it's a good thing that he is also sharing his journey with us because a lot of people will be worried about him and there is also lingering concern about the Princess of Wales and cancer was present, who announced last month that she would undergo preventive chemotherapy after a major abdominal problem. her surgery in January, it is unclear when she will be healthy enough to resume public duties and how full the king's schedule will be in the future.

Cancer treatment is often exhausting and tiring and it is really important for him to be given good advice on how to cope when it comes back. how he handles his work commitments the palace says it is unclear how much longer Charles will undergo cancer treatment and that any public engagements will be subject to the advice of his doctor rer Stewart CBC News London we have more tonight on a breaking news story that we're following from New York City, where police moved into Columbia University and arrested protesters, a New York lawyer will hear from a New York lawyer about what protesters could face next. dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters who had taken over a Hamilton Hall building were detained and put on police buses before I SP I spoke to Martin Stoler, he is a defense attorney in New York, he has been working for about 50 years, we talked about what's next for those who were arrested, so Martin, can you?

Tell us about the possible legal ramifications of all of these people being arrested. Some people have been arrested. It's not clear to me if these are people who are at Hamilton Hall or who were just part of the camp and depending on where they were arrested, the first question will be whether they should be charged or not, which is a decision that the department of police can take. They can let them go, but if they're going to be charged, the people at the camp are probably just going to be charged with this ordered behavior doesn't obey an order to get out of um and that in New York is rape, it's not a crime and it's not something that will result in a criminal record if the people they are removing from Hamilton Hall are charged, if indeed that has happened, then the most likely charge they will face is a Class B misdemeanor called criminal trespass, um, and that is a crime under New York law that has a maximum sentence of 90 days, but as someone who has represented protesters for a long time if it's a peaceful non-violent arrest um and the only charge is trespassing that will probably never result in a jail sentence for anyone arrested.

There are other dispositions of cases like that that will hopefully result in college students having clean criminal records, but Martin, what's up? their academic records like what happens, you know, commencement is May 15, you have 15,000 students who are trying to graduate, what happens with their academic records here, the school will probably make efforts to suspend or expel several students, the that they can identify those who have been arrested and others that they can identify, this has already happened in Columbia. There are some very complex rules and regulations about how the procedures have to follow to do that, among the lawyers that I'm affiliated with in the National Lawyers Guild, uh, we've been training to be able to represent Columbia students and try to preserve your ability to graduate or even enroll, so that was Martin Stolar, a defense attorney in New York tonight, so now it's time to investigate.

Delving into some of the stories that shape our gun-driven world, Ukraine risks losing a key city to Russia, putting several more at serious risk Now that there is a deadline, there is urgency, but first let's return to the track of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, just as Alberta oil will. we finally started to flow we have always lived with the risk and now we want some of the benefits First Nations along the Route share their different opinions on the value of this project we are protecting the water and we want to have a ceremony and there are more nuances than that among the indigenous peoples on this long stretch of the pipeline in the second part of his three-part journey Aaron Collins analyzes the conflicts and possible solutions the Thompson River runs through sepm territory as does the Trans Mountain pipeline its expansion is easy to view from the shores we followed the line path to the coast stopping at cam loops along the way and up Loops means where the rivers meet in the Sho swap language to some who speak the TMX language it is a scar on the land impossible to ignore if we don't say anything if we're not active in our communities and we don't do the ceremonies that we're doing then we won't do it, people won't know what our opposition is and this matriarch made her objection clear. cutting their hair in protest all over Li onment we see you we love you warning about the expansion of the line that runs through their nation's land, take it, our sister arrested and imprisoned for standing in their way, these are our lives as indigenous peoples, we are protecting the water. and we want to have a ceremony and do all that, so you know, this is it, this is everything here, this is what we are protecting, just 40 km from the levy circuits, the pipeline crosses the territory of the Indian bands of Whispering Pines.

The potential dangers of the line also lie just below this terrain, but they are going down a different path here seeing opportunity in this expansion. This is where the risk and reward meet for you. Yes, we have always lived with risk and now. we want some of the benefits previously the benefits always float somewhere else today she goes to Ottawa before she went to Houston Texas people here part of an indigenous group Le who wants to buy Trans Mountain come on baby she won't come here she's a rodeo horse you know that if the ride is for work, come on, shik, used to chasing horses, is now rallying other First Nations looking to invest, partnering with the Calgary-based pipeline company to make it happen, not an easy task, always Tell people I have eight sisters and if you think they all agree, I have some news for you because you know not everyone agrees with owning the pipeline and I get it, I get it, but it's here, it's in the landscape with which we have to live.

Now the group has about 40 nations on board so far, but it is not the only indigenous Le group seeking ownership of the pipeline in Alberta. Another group hopes to use the pipeline to help write historical wrongs. Every First Nation has handled poverty since the signing of treaties and since the establishment of this country that has to change Well, this member of the band Enoch Cre helped start the Nation's Casino, a business that boosted his band's finances. , is now rolling the dice to buy an oil pipeline that his group wants to own. TMX completely divides the profits between all affected First Nations along the line of some kind of economic reconciliation.

What these initiatives are trying to change are those economic opportunities for the respective First Nations to share the revenue base if they had done that and by I mean, if the government had done that from day one, there wouldn't be the poverty that we have in these communities along the entire TMX road. First Nations are hearing these speeches talking about economic benefits in the future. Similar cases were made when the pipeline expansion was first proposed further west near Abbottsford BC, the Sumas gang and their boss were listening, it was back and forth and of course yes people were considering the possibility to get some money from this, right where this Trans Mountain tank farm is located.

In Sumas' traditional territory, the risk of a spill in the area is anything but hypothetical. There have been several over the years, the concern ofMay more accidents complicate any economic benefits here. I mean, you've accepted what's happening here, but that doesn't mean you. We're not worried about what this is going to mean for your people. Yes, we have reached an agreement, but of course there are concerns that we are still worried about that. Yes, most of our people said that we need to come to some kind of agreement, but. my personal DS was different and it's mostly about water, right, I mean, it's mostly about water running downhill, yeah, water and environment in general, and after the Spill, the Sumas made a deal to allow the pipeline crosses its territory, but for now.

We have decided they do not want an ownership stake as we approach the coast where Trans Mountain meets the sea. Resistance to the line is perhaps fiercest in Vancouver. The Slaya Tooth nation has been leading that resistance. The Trans Mountain marine terminal sits on Slaya Tooth. Territory, you threaten our lands and waters. I dare BR, some fellow leaders have no right to do that to us, members of that nation have gone to jail to stop the project. It's interesting as we look across the water here and still fight it even now. that has been built uh, it doesn't change anything that we've been in, we've been here since time immemorial protecting and caring for our water, you know, there are some concerns because now the risks are real, those risks linked to climate change and natural disasters associated with him.

This pipeline project is part of a larger existential threat to this nation. Water takes care of us. Of course, we are very concerned about fires, atmospheric rivers and floods. The Trans Mountain expansion is a done deal. More oil will be moved from this terminal to tankers at Barard. Inlet our future our future over the years The Vancouver Art Gallery was ground zero for many protests against the line. Every time I came here, it was a big deal. It was like there was a lot of energy here, there's a lot of people here, but that energy has changed, it's a lot calmer here now and this later MC knowledge, the keeper of a hard no in the pipe in the past, has softened, become has focused on moving forward, I love people. who are so on one side or the other to remember that we are people, that we are here in this together, that we have to reach the hearts, minds and spirits of others, one step away from conflict, hopefully, moving towards something better , so this was chapter two.

In Aaron Collins' three-part series tracing the root of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion from Alberta to the British Columbia coast tomorrow, Aaron will conclude his road trip in Bernabe, the end of the TMX line and the heart of the Looming opposition on the front lines of the war in Ukraine is a target of enormous strategic importance. These are important cities that form the backbone of Ukraine's defense. Why Russia is focusing on a small Ukrainian town. Andrew Chang explains it below. e e e e e Russia is approaching a strategic city in Ukraine. miv Yar is on the front line, taking this piece of high ground would open the door to the Great Conquest of the major cities that form the backbone of Ukraine's defense now that the race is on with American arms aimed at Ukraine and Vladimir Putin probably eager to show off a Russian victory.

The invasion of Ukraine could be approaching a pivotal moment, so here's cbc host Andrew Chang to break down all the reasons I want to show you something: Infrared drone video posted online by the 67th Ukrainian Mechanized Brigade, those white spots, Russian vehicles in the The move was from an attack earlier this month that experts now say shows a key Ukrainian vulnerability. Normally, Ukraine has enough artillery shells and other ammunition to attack a vehicle. it's in place if you look at those pictures the ukrainian forces don't really realize that ukraine has been starving for ammunition bullets artillery shells they don't have enough those russian vehicles were on their way to a small town called chivar it's just west of the city in ruins of Bakut and right on the edge of a vast swath of territory inside Ukraine that Russia now controls before the war that city was just a TOD on a map 12,000 people lived there the city's largest industry making concrete and bricks, but this is what it looks like now a concrete and brick disaster chivar is on the front line Moscow's next big objective now is to capture the ukrainian city of chass chassie viar has been used as a regrouping point and forward artillery base for the Ukrainian army on both sides Ukraine and Russia desperately want this piece of land.

I will explain why geography explains two ways this area is so important. First think of chivar as a hub if Russia manages to gain control, which becomes a stage to attack several other cities, cifka and drka, until the end. to the west and the much larger cities of kator and sloviansk to the north, these are important cities that form the backbone of Ukraine's uh defense in the north. The loss of Chivar would provide a direct route for the Russian army to advance towards the so-called fortress cities in the Donbass. The opening of Chesie in Donbass would allow Russia greater access to these cities, not only, of course, directly, capture these logistics and be able to advance. , but also putting them within easier range for artillery attacks, Yar's chess would also be very difficult. to remove and I'll show you why this is a map of Ukraine that I have here is from the Institute for the Study of War which is a think tank based in Washington this red area along the South and the East that is controlled by Russia if I get closer to this part of the country you can see that the city of Chivar appears and it is right on the war front line, it looks like any other part of the country, but if I get closer and rotate it like this this topographic view You can see and I should point out that the elevations here are a little exaggerated so you can see it more clearly, but the important thing is that Chass Ofar is on high ground.

If you control this city, you can see in practically all directions, whether towards Russia. army or Ukraine a few months after the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine chivar became a target a missile attack on a residential building killed dozens of people that same day the city's only railway station was destroyed by a Russian rocket . At that point the mayor of the city had long since fled and today, although there are still people living in Chivar, mostly older people who refuse to leave their homes, the city looks like a war zone, its buildings are destroyed, their basements have been converted into bunkers, according to British intelligence.

The Russian Air Force is dropping 20 to 30 munitions into the field. Yar per day suco 25 and 34 armed with gliding bombs that have these pop-up wings that allow them to literally glide forward, sometimes dozens of kilometers until they reach their target and Ukraine is struggling to defend its forces are exhausted, we need big reinforcements, there are many people here. tired, their supplies are dwindling, they have a huge deficit for each artillery shell. The Russians can launch 7 to 10. We have seen many images of Russian tactical aircraft operating unimposing forces. They probably do not have enough air defense resources. They need ammunition to repel the constant waves of Russian troops They need artillery to hold off the tanks They need Patriot missile defense launchers to prevent incoming airstrikes and they need F-16 fighter jets to control the skies They are basically fighting to hold on and Russia's strategy seems overwhelming with numbers.

Ukrainian sources will routinely call these assaults meat. These are just assaults where there is an assault. Group after another. They are very united. Only now they are divided by a scam. And the latest information I have received. What I can deduce is that the Russians are on the eastern side of the canal, that the canal is key, it cuts Chivar in two and will make it more difficult for Russian infantry to cross, but Ukrainian commanders believe Russia has between 20 and 25,000 soldiers ready to storm the canal. city ​​and that they are on deadline May 9 is a big day in Russia, it marks the Soviet victory over Germany in 1945.

I think Putin would definitely like to have the May Day Parade with juice in his pocket to show that the war is really progressing. They may believe that May 9 could be a possible date due to the limitations that Ukrainian forces currently have. Anything beyond May 9 may become more difficult, more difficult because the president of Ukraine expects reinforcements. Just a few days ago, the US House of Representatives passed a $61 proposal. billion Aid package most military aid for Ukraine we will start sending equipment to Ukraine for air defense Ammunition for artillery for rocket systems and armored vehicles now there is a deadline, there is urgency, it all depends on how quickly Ukraine can really stabilize the front line with the help of the aid that is coming now we must be clear that nothing about war is simple, there is no guarantee that the Russians will be able to capture chivar and there is no guarantee that, even if they did They could easily turn that into bigger profits, but it's also difficult to know exactly how long it will take for aid to reach Ukraine's front lines.

Our experts tell us it could be weeks and Ukraine will have to hold on or risk losing much more than a small town on a hill. Earlier today, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zalinski expressed the vital importance of quickly rearming soldiers on those front lines and called for what he called a significant acceleration of supplies. Washington says that after months of delay due to political wrangling in Congress, U.S. supplies are now arriving. Ukraine continues just when a family thought their beloved cat was gone forever, an unexpected surprise, our kitten had traveled in an Amazon package without us knowing, 650 M away from us, so strange that reunion in Our Moment e e e e e good there This is Galina with her striking blue eyes perched on the counter of the Clark house in Utah, right where she should be, her owners suffered a big surprise when she randomly disappeared from their house a couple of weeks ago, but a surprise still older when they discovered it was found in an Amazon package all the way to California Galina's wild journey back into the hands of her owners is Our Moment hello, my goodness, hello, hello, my baby, it's okay girl, it's been a miracle total, so on April 10, our sweet cat Galina mysteriously disappeared. from our house, so after desperately searching I received a phone call from a vet in California who told me that she had my Cat 650 M away from us.

I just couldn't believe my ears, good girl, they had found Galina in this Amazon package and she was there along with some Toone steel tits my heart instantly sank mommy left you Galina must have jumped into the box we had sent Gina was stuck for 6 days without food or water oh we are so glad you understood that she had been going through something so stressful and so difficult, we were incredibly happy to have her back home with us. What about cats and boxes? I don't understand it at all. Galina is also a very lucky cat because the person who found her, Brandy, is too.

It turns out that she works as a pet rescuer as a sideline, so she received all the attention she needed for all of us here at the national. Thanks for being with us. You can watch anywhere, anytime on the free CBC News app. And subscribe to the Nationals YouTube channel I'm Adrian Arsenal take care oh e e e e e e he