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I know he's a bit feisty but it was a lot of fun. You kept walking and we stayed talking. I said the referee is there's a problem don't reserve something in a book or something with us you know you have all the grudge actually you know what was really funny you know what was really funny about it J is that when was it because he finally did it we caught him upstairs we said what happened there he said I don't know, I just think I remember him saying something sure was right, don't you think since V are?

That's all we talk about after these big games like Man United Centry, like what match the other day and then the main topic of conversation is like V, I hate it, you know, what's said about that match is great too , it is one of the incredible matches of the F Cup, a club that has nothing to do with v, I don't know anything. about V, they've literally done it in that comeback against United at Wembley, one of the best things you've ever seen with the journey Centry has had from where he's been to where he is and for that to happen like that. to make that happen, really again, give them the offsides, offside right, but then we can talk about yeah, but did he draw the lines correctly?

We have the right, come on, it's right, it's not final, it's for me, you know, people can get it. it's why can't he why can't a referee just referee that game and you know, if he gets it, we say you know what that Rong got, well, late, Middleport, the other day there was a cou, but what a great game. Two things that I don't think we can question with technology: it's probably goal line technology and actually offside, they're actually the same every time, right, but even when we don't know if that line is correct, you already know. the fact that we can tell what he's drawing, he's right, I think as a United fan I think there's a connection there, I don't want it now, you like that, he was crying, you were in the stadium obviously, on Sunday, we actually were. at Fulham Liverpool um and watching it happen, I mean you started watching the semi-final of I'm in the comments as soon as the 31 passed.

I was watching as soon as Liverpool scored the third. I went, he was making comments on his own at the end. Honestly, I was literally like what's going on, what was it crazy, normal weekend since then, it was um, you know, we were looking, we thought because we gave it the build up and everything we thought, yeah, if Centry can hang in there, stay there, stay there. it's tight and then bam United bam bam we just thought this was over and then Comry scores a really good goal what they scored um Ellis Sims and then you're thinking let's see what happened you know and then bam I get the then they get the third , that's what it's all about, yes this is exactly what it's all about because I'm slowly watching Man United slowly go further and further into their shell hoping to hurry up and get this game over so we can move on.

Instead of someone aging out of the game and getting by, Kobe took G, Peter K's joke when he puts the delicious tea in the hot cup, have you seen it?, the one about the cookie, where yes, yes, yes , I've seen that it was Man United, that's it, Man United, yes, you know something, it's really going to be a meme. I do not know, I do not know. When you look at it, you like that they release it and you like kind of cruise, but when they started, you could see the players stop doing things, you could just see them stop, like after, we were critical, you know the coaches came out and They said, well, it's not, but it's more, it's not like they could cry, they could have beaten him before the game, anything can.

They happened to go and score three goals at Wolves, but it was the fact that they came back from three down after critical, critical minutes, be honest, if you're training in a cup semi-final against a champion team and me again. teams can score goals C can score what, but that's where you go, okay. I left on Sunday. I hadn't seen the game. I only saw little snippets at the end, but I saw your kind of special. I feel like you've reached a point now where there's nothing more to say. You have nothing more to say about United.

It's almost like you're repeating, like, even when they were training. Was looking. I was. I hope you now show this again. side of him where you go, you win four or five and there's no nonsense after the game there's no and give the manager some breeder you're looking for, they didn't even have that side of him when you're training in the cup semi-final and even if C get one back, relax, that can happen or even if they also went to the tree, but I tell you what we will show them our class, we, you, you were not the SED.

They were training anywhere and when you look at this United team recently and I'm just going back in the last month, two in terms of the game at Brenford, they gave up a late goal to Chelsea L if you want to come back if you continue. Back, yeah, you're looking and I'm looking, I'm going. I can't believe what I'm seeing. I can't believe a team that has so much control against it. What do you say about the center? I have never respected you, you respect all the teams that are on the field, all the teams, I have never disrespected any team, but you are looking at what we are training, the game is over, but somehow they find a way to cause, I think.

The worst thing of all was, like I said, I didn't watch the game, but in the end it's happened a lot of times where United conceded one, you can see another one like two minutes later, they fall apart, but we've all played in games where that is. it happened where you think what I couldn't understand is you get to the end of the game and you think okay the game stopped now the coach comes in guys what's going on he cries it's 33 it's okay we've had some crazy. 20 minutes we solve what the problem is boom boom boom we have half an hour now and I hope United go on and score goals where is Covent so obviously the V is tight it had the crossbar, that was the worrying thing Because crazy things happen in games, a times we have been part of that, but in extra time Kovi continued and United did not resist, Jam at the end and you have to be critical because, as I said, you look at the team this season, particularly the games they lost at Golds, they gave up defeated and L's defeats in Europe, it also seems that he was D hack manager of ax W when the Spurs, yes, they were training against the Spurs and what half an hour to go with 35 minutes left, the Spurs defeat him, sometimes he comes from a coach where you say what no, no, you get a group of players, sure sometimes coaches talk to groups of players, but that's where you get control of the guys.

I could only have imagined, yeah, myself or the JS that I've been in and I think it would have been H Lads, which was kind of a waste. I do not think it is like that. Well, it would have been. I felt relieved. I mean, I was. I was relieved at the end because I couldn't stop thinking about what it would have been like for the coach and the players if they had lost the game. I know they would have been incredible for Centry and I understand that, but I think it would have been one of the most horrible

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four weeks that you probably would have seen in terms of annihilation of a coach and players because I think it would have been if you would ever recover from that if you were a player and a coach. you are again, let's go back you are man

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you are playing against a champion you are three and up yes you never forgive yourself never these games we look back now let's listen we are talking about bottle jobs or games we We have lost, we think we should have won, us and these are the games that keep you up at night, so being training you never forgive yourself, it would have been a public annihilation for four weeks, the stadiums would have been quite toxic.

The criticism and scrutiny on the manager would have been horrible, it will still be huge, but I was relieved. I think I might have been tough after the match because it's easy to be tough when you win the match if you play. It could come after some, the player is not an individual, but come on, come on, like when you are interviewed after a game, a coach can say that everyone is scared to death or the coach says anything, but come on, that is unacceptable. The demands at Man United are what we have to make. do better than that, if we are three up we will see the game over considering that har Maguire said that, although I must say that Harry MaGuire, I think the game was what propelled them forward and I thought his post-match interview was very good.

No, he did it after saying this isn't good enough at Man United and I thought that's what's needed more of that, yeah, what did we do? I mean, at his press conference I felt like he was almost like a Deja Vu guy. Groundhog Day moment, where you've seen managers over the last 8 10 years come in and you know, obviously, he went and attacked, he said you, the media was

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, the reaction was embarrassing, he continued , at least it's shit, you know something? ' I say about because we asked him about his reaction to Jamie a few weeks ago, but at least he came out and showed a bit of fight, yes, no, obviously you are going down that road, you are challenging the media and whoever has been critical of United recently .

I don't care that he is the man in his opinion, he has been asked a question, but at least I see it well. I hope your team ends up fighting the way you're fighting. Fighting with your car may also be very little. late, but it's good to see because your team didn't fight when they were cheap towards the end and extra time, yes, but when you talk, when you listen to him, when he talks about Man United, it's two now in a row from the FA Cup. finals like they were a cup team, but even if they were a cup team, they're not winning cups, yeah, you know, the

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United is more than just winning cups, cup teams, that's right at the moment, yes, but then you look at the manager and when you hear that, like he's coming back, you feel like, but well, I look at the players that have come. to United over a 10 year period and improved from the moment they arrived and what managers who arrived didn't effectively go bankrupt when they arrived and end up in a situation like Eric's. Eric Tag was a great you. Think about what we all said about Eric Tag when he arrived two years ago and how positive he was about the work he had done at Bayern, the work he had done at Ajax and you end up two years later saying that.

We've ruined the club coaches and we've ruined the players and I can't say, okay, it's up to them individually. I understand, but there must be something dangling, but I'm still looking for the coach. Things went wrong in the last two months, when they gave up. I still want to see something from the man, you're R, about training. I think he is a good coach. Does he really do good training sessions? I'm sure he is. Of course he is, but sometimes you want a manager when NE you go to Tre one or Tre two the other day you look at your M.

I want, I want to see some madness. I want to see a manager on the bench taking control. of people when people make statements or go on Twitter some realize what Fell is saying, that's unacceptable, you don't have to do it again, Trill doesn't need to be on the bus, so this idea of ​​being a coach in These The club is more than being a coach, the greats, the great coaches and trainers are personalities who would not let that happen yesterday. Gary put it this way: If we saw Manchester City do that, it would be like us or a national team doing that, but at United.

We were like watching, we can't believe what we're seeing, but this group is capable of doing that, it's like that, he's had the Ronaldo situation, he's had the Sancho situation, obviously he's had a couple of moments with Rashford, I think it's really a position where he tried, he tried the hard line with Sancho, it probably didn't work because the club loses, the player loses and the coach loses, he with Ronaldo probably both decided that it was going to be like that. In the end, Rashford almost somehow talks to him, but he doesn't let him go, he's probably in a position where he's thinking I'm not really sure about really putting a Twist here, yeah, he's probably like, I think they.

Those are the things I really admired him for. I don't think he was wrong at all. Ronaldo had to deal with him and confronted Sancho. It seems like the club obviously looked after him for a couple of months for whatever. It was happening off the field. I think he made a very small comment. I'm not saying he made mistakes. He probably has a lot of these situations piling up on him. He probably thinks I can't afford another fight. 't AFF Another War, you know what I, I know, but it's just that he took care of the r thinking he was right, he took care of the ra, the Sancho thing, who, let's be honest, did absolutely nothing for Manchester United 78 million, nothing that was taken care of when he stepped out of line now you've got Rashford, whatever's going on there got him out again at the weekend so I wouldn't worry him in terms of what he's done in terms of how he leads the team or discipline because when he was winning last season, I think there waswin, you put in your score, no, I was thinking that playing could be a chance for Spears if AR when he's enchanted anyway, if Spear is winning, he gets something, he gets something out of it, doesn't he get something? like 3 in the morning and stuff, two, one SP, there are two of you because you are like the city, oh oh, God depends on who serves you on Sunday.

I don't think Che out sounds, right?an Arsenal F, who's first, you or us, well obviously, city, city, city, city statistic, two or 31, we already did, look how many have an outfit lovely AR, when you go big you go small and when you need to be big that's what you need. to be talking to my wife needs to be bigger everything super sex how much love to get new people three look how many free we have three he loves a tree one I think it's a 4 I think it's 40 like well, 4 hangang, hangang, guy, I have , is it 4 you, 4, yes, 4N, yes, he said 40 and I said 4N, you are going to 40, I am going to 4, yes, let's do it, I think not, we need to make up points?

That's going to be the way to get the let's go 1 please, you see, to score against City, you're wrong. Can you see that Forest scores against every team can score a goal if they are right? Can you imagine you want me to do the right thing? Are two. Well Ben, he did well, he looks good for the program we talked about, United manager, now we are with the

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Liverpool manager, clap your hands, leaving what you have, you have already given us two Liverpool managers next season . That won't be the Liverpool managers, the next third, well, the third favourite, an Annie spot, yeah, it seems like yesterday, so when it came out yesterday it was a bit, it's not exciting, it was obviously a shock to you because You've told it to yourself and to people, but you can't expect a real surprise from a coach.

You're talking about Klo leaving. It's just that it's difficult. Can I ask you a question? I mean, we always say Liverpool are so efficient, but it's pretty clear. one or two of their main types of goals that they thought they could achieve have disappeared a little bit. Are they moving down the list a bit? I'm asking a question, yes, because I would. Imagine, I imagine that Alonso was at the top of that list because of what he did in Leverkusen, but also because of the connection, and that is something very important and that is what I want to get to and it is a bit worrying for me as a Liverpool player. . fan, I think Liverpool, when we did well, we forgot the 70s and 80s, we thought of the Premier League ER and we thought of you, Julier had a good run of two or three years in which we won trophies.

Rafa was the same and Klopp had that. There's a real connection with the fans and then Anfield gets going and then you can feel like you're moving in some way, and I've always said this. I think Liverpool is different to almost any club in that the manager is always the God, he says it's not about great players, but if you ask the fans about Klo, when we won the Champions League it was the RAF, you know which was Shank, the manager is very important and what's really interesting here is that Michael was the Sporting Director, he was there at the beginning with Klopp and obviously they fell out for whatever reason and a lot of his team moved on as soon as Klopp left.

It was, they came back, it's like the bands got back together, so it's obvious something. It happened behind the scenes but the owners at FSG almost felt it was more important to get that structure back than who was going to be the next manager so it was like we need all this back, there's no way Michael Edwards is going to come back and not have it all. . the power to run this club doesn't even have the same role, it has a more important role because I think they are going to try to buy other clubs, so my concern in the future is that the coach they bring in will almost only be a coach. a manager will have a big personality, we have a profile, it would be a case of not running the shop, you just come as a manager and that's fine because I understand the way the game developed and it is and I love Liverpool.

You go back to dealing with data and analysis and you know that every play that is entered may have to pass a certain criterion. I want to get back to that, but I don't want to get to a stage where you bring in a manager. and I think the slot could fall on this type of Cate the moment it falls, who continues the game away, who is not interested in his stats or his date, he just wants to see this and thinks he's going to kill us. win the league you are going to win. take us because I'm on a journey with this guy, can this guy stand next to Pep Guardiola on the touchline and you feel like yeah, we can take this on with this guy and I'm just thinking is it time or not?

Those big coaches were saying that whoever you were going to bring him in wasn't going to be a club figure, but it's interesting to talk about the connection with Jamie when, when Rafa came in, obviously Klopp obviously had a good reputation and the RAF had one thing, but even more good, but they had to do it when they came in, there was excitement in the step, like you had good memories of them because they had things, but when they first came in, that part of you that you know well was still there, I think it's It's interesting that Ro because I think klopp was all I said at the beginning klopp wasn't just a signing for Liverpool he was a signing for the Premier League you know I think everyone knew who clpp was I think when Julier came in.

He was the first foreign manager so it was a bit mystical what he had been and the way it developed was that you would actually believe he worked at Liverpool. You know, you know what the local press is like. a Liverpool fan and all that, but he'd been involved in France winning the World Cup, so you think, wow, France wants to win the World Cup. Rafa arrived after two La Liga titles in three years and Valencia, if that's the case. He would have asked the Julier team I played on who was the best team you played against.

We would all have said Valencia. You know, that would have been what you would have laughed at. I thought I'd go back there, so I think there was something that back now, I would say if you bring in F's old manager, it almost feels like a little bit and you hear where this is coming from, you'll go down the list, who was really on the list? at first? No? I don't remember him being in the early odds like, you know, four five six weeks ago. I don't remember seeing it, obviously, I think you just don't understand that everyone, I think, bought Amarin's arrival and I think what he's doing in SP What happened to Amarin?

What happened to that one? Because that's what he's going to do. I mean, he's a young man. He is only 39 years old. He has done a brilliant job at Spok to win the league there twice in four years against Porto and Benfica. The only thing he had in mind was that they were going to play a completely different system to the one Liverpool use now, meaning there might be a big overhaul of the team. That's the case, I think Fin's guy has done a very good job, it's a similar way to Klopp too, eh, but he feels a little bit like he's going a little bit flat, doesn't he? ?

It's not like you bring in a Champions League to manage it and the reason I wanted to mention this is that Liverpool will always be data driven, the only manager that is out there who is suitable for where you are going and is available. but he is tole MH and I just don't think Liverpool would go for that type of manager now with the setup they have behind the scenes, I think even you sound a bit insecure, it's almost like you've deflated, it's like you. They're swiping right and they're swiping left, you know me, it's like, but no, you said the other weekend, you're right, it's like if you got rid of T, who would you bring him in?

No, I didn't expect this. Liverpool expected them to be quite precise because they told the clubs six months so they could make the next appointment exactly, so the idea of ​​kpps being early was so they could plan for the end of the season and get everything, so I think that you know who you have, but is it surprising that these guys, if they were offered a job, they turned it down, but of course, I thought with Liverpool just because of how efficient they have been, I thought they would have already closed it at the point where the Klo's hands realize because they obviously already have someone locked up and you think Alonzo is tied up and then obviously the next guy attacks you.

Thinking, but that's a good point, you know, because, like them, they tried to go for there, obviously, the biggest goals, the biggest goals and for some reason they didn't. I thought they would have boxed him in, right? Imagine Liverpool have it. boxed in maybe they maybe thought they might have gotten who they were going for do you think a feeling of when Alex Ferguson left and then someone walks in? Do you think Alonzo is like that's a big job that has to fuel him because the club is like? Jamie said he would come and that he was on assignment for the Premier League and he has done so.

I would if he was involved in a coaching business and you know Liverpool got as big as they are. I want to come in after Klopp. you want to come in with someone, I thought about Lonzo, I thought if he because if he announces if he says I'm going to take the Liverpool job, let's say in February March, which I should have done and it would never have been silent, it could have derailed what is happening at Leus and, to be fair, the most important thing that could happen to him in his career at this point is winning the league.

I couldn't distract him. I don't think he won the league away from home. Since then I think he had to compromise not only maybe because he wanted to stay one more year because I think if he was going to leave part of a season in which they hadn't won the league yet and it was only a few points. Of course he had to do that work and make sure he focused on it. I just think with him it would have been great for Liverpool, but I don't think it would have been like that. I think it's probably best for Alono to stay. another year at Leverkusen because actually this is the face of him throughout the season as a coach, so in terms of developing that and I think he will have that employment opportunity in the future.

L confidence for a coach to say no, as if it were usual. like a player, you get an opportunity or way, go, take it, you might get it, some of these for the coaches, go, no, that will be there for a year or two for me. I just think about it, it feels like a quote you'd make when Liverpool were almost maybes. trying to get back into the top four, not at the moment. Liverpool are probably in the top five or six teams probably in Europe and have been for a few years so it feels a bit and that's why I go back to tulle and just think he's beaten Pep, that's what I think , I just think about you, you know, you're just a guy standing on the bench and you're a Liverpool fan and you're watching and thinking he can take him on and he might as well win the Champions League.

Well, if he makes it to the final, he's been in three of the last six Champions League finals. Now I know it hasn't gone perfect at the Bayern Munich Forum, but the work he did with Chelsea and trying to take on Klopp like Liverpool and Regards, Man City, he has something, that's my thing and I just hope the People who have come to Liverpool have been there before, they know the club very well and they never forget how great the connection must be. with Liverpool support and you could say it's the same with all the fans, but that thing about him being our man, he can go up, he can fight Pep, he can fight whoever the Man United manager is and we're not done arrest. a coach there who is basically a Yes Man behind the scenes, surely Jame, they must have if they go for him, then they probably worked a lot on him, it's like when I know I know Klopp came as Dortmund and we knew that to the clubs they like the body of work and this guy must, must, must tick some boxes respectively, the way he plays, the personality is huge for a club, for people to identify with some at Seline, whatever the The coaching credentials are brilliant, but in some places yes, I like what I see with him, he fits well, he fits well with the club.

FA Cup replays go yes or no, yes, no surprises, yes, I think so too, um, not all. I got there, but I think so, I just think about the teams that get the repeat players and you know what I mean, like those big games that they bring to their stadium. I think it's okay, let me. I wanted to say this to add drama. the competition, you what I think, although, right? I think it would have been acceptable if you had negotiated. I might have the chance to say no, go on Jam, you're right to talk for 30 minutes about Liverpool and no, no, I didn't come to a conclusion about who.

The next coach will be if you, what could you plant? Could you seed the top Championship champion clubs and Premier League clubs into the third round to actually play against a league one and a league two or domestic league clubs? You could do it? as a seed in the Champions League, I was thinking that if you wanted to eliminate the replays, you actually have Man United, you have to go to a League 2 or League One club or they have to go to a League club national, so there's a different no, you don't want to do that, they're missing themoney, then no or the other way around, they go to their field, they should have the option, the team has the option to make the toss, make the toss. draw this that lower league teams want replays, they don't want replays, they want replays against Premier League teams if you had a lower league team in the League Two championship.leue playing a replay ready for the draw and fix it, yeah, yeah, like they call any team, okay, your number kinda like, I think it's both.

I just think even the teams at Bott don't forget that. they play 46 league games they are in the efl cup they are in the carabal cup and they are in the fa cup they also don't have room for matches so they don't want replays they just want the money if the premier league plays, it's almost finished, it was supposed to be, it's supposed to be very simple, you don't continue in the third or fourth round when there are supposed to be replays, yes, yes, if you get tied against a big team in your field and you want to do some fal Alum you can change it if you want that's all simple lipo you could do a few years ago then they stopped it if you want to play in the Premier League round you do it you talk to the club the fa We would prefer to play this game in which salord, we would prefer to play at Anfield or we would prefer to play at Old Trafford, simple, no happy repeat, so inner seed is what I was using.

I think the SE side of things and what Jamie is talking about, some iteration of that, is where I would go instead of playing again. It's a shame he

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ed that the FA Cup was amazing so why be too clever? Know? Do you understand, can I say with the FA Cup and what they are doing with it? You know it simply because it's about fitting in in the Champions League matches and all the matches you have to fit in and you say that even the non-League clubs don't want to play as well, but the fact is speaking of the tradition of a tournament, I hold it in the same esteem as Wimbledon and the maestro, but it has to adapt to the times, it has to adapt to the times, but at the same time tradition should not move because, as long as when you can find a way to make sure those teams benefit from it, because even looking at when was the last time you see a premiere of any type of Premier League match with anti-man shouting linked with that type of thing like?

And would you have wanted that to be repeated at the end of the game? Not that game, but it's in the semi-final, no, but it means I used to do it, wasn't it like that at the semi-final stage? changes, they have actually moved the final inside the last League game again, which I think is a negative change, they have moved the final so much inside with that, but you know something, what for me is that you can't not consult with the Most clubs that play in the competition have to consult to reach the decision they have to make, that was the big problem for me.

Fix the game. Many play. Slow than the fast fight with Anony Gordon. What about J? I think it's a really good question, I like this community question, well done, present it with Jude Bellingham scoring the winning goal for Real Madrid against Barcelona, ​​who is the best English player to ever play in abroad. It's a good question to finish in English. Hey, I thought that was a good question. The best English player to ever play abroad. What did they achieve there? Yeah, M Manan won two European cups, yeah man, St Real Madrid, um, I thought PL, PL, was cool, yeah, yeah, Gary ler gascoin, no, Beckham, Beck, five years at Real Madrid, always look, won. the league last season and he played no, he played in Milan, he played for PSG and he played in Los Angeles.

We love David, but he didn't get into Inter Milan because he was brilliant at Milan in um. Beck has had the best career, probably a great player. Liam Brady John Charles King Kevin Keegan Keegan Keegan won European

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. Kane scored all those goals in Germany. Nobody has done that. Wow. A season. I'd say Kevin you like what I've done. He went with KK, won the Ball gate two years in a row in Hur Jesus with a perm you get. I'm happy to go with Kevin Keeg. I think Kevin won the B. I think there are a couple because we need a list of players who were. to Italy that Trevor Francis went to Sunis went to Italy Italy Mark Jimmy Greaves oh hell he wasn't there long yeah but Dennis went to where AC Milan Jimmy Graves is a test question went to AC Milan yeah who is the best English player of all time? playing abroad what a good question you ask, we're still holding you back, you have someone else I feel like we're missing someone, yeah, I just can't think, um, we'll get back to next week's episode, Al, what he did in Dortmund. and now Real Madrid Bellingham is going to take something I wonder if Bing will end up being Sanch without even playing in the Premier League San Mad's Champions League year, by the way, you saw that game last week Real Madrid Man City and he knew He knows that Bellingham is a good play.

I didn't realize how good it was. Oh my god, do you think he played that night? I don't think he's done his touches and it's amazing. I thought, oh honestly, he did something impressive, oh dear, honey, he got six touches, no, and they were good touches, but around six, I'm telling you. He was watching him. I thought he had a rough night, but listen. I thought it really worked. Some of the touches from him. The whole city didn't win that game. I know I know you. I know what I was on the flight and I landed You're almost on a flight Jesus Christ are you a pilot?

I'm on a flight, of course, that's all. York Gary was at a party, weren't you very much like no one else was invited to attend? Where did he go, oh yeah, what party did you go to? I love that you went to Of course he did jumped jumped out of the cake hey surprise hey Gary mix with beex for us next time you see it I'm in I'm in the next movie was Tom Cruz, like there's no way you fit in the Top Gun cabin. I don't like anyone who wears sunglasses indoors, Tom Cruz Tom Cruz w