Meet the far-right extremist plotting Trump's second term

This year's presidential election is about choices and Donald Trump is making it abundantly clear exactly what he will do if re-elected, especially when it comes to race and immigration on the campaign trail. Trump has falsely accused immigrants of a border bloodbath and uses dehumanizing language when he talks about them, they are sending prisoners, murderers, mental drug dealers, Pati, and terrorists, the worst thing they have in every country in the world. Uh, the Democrats say, please don't. You call them animals, they're humans, I said no, they're not humans, they're not humans, they're animals. Trump and his allies are also threatening to carry out mass deportations, use immigration detention camps and potentially bring back the zero-tolerance policy that put children in cages this time. week Trump attended a Gaya for the director of the family separation program and has not ruled out reinstating it and while Trump's attacks on asylum seekers are certainly racist, there is much more.

Have you heard about his plans to elevate only whites? axos reports that Trump wants the justice department to roll back protections for people of color to focus on anti-white discrimination Trump's allies have already been testing this anti-Dei framework in the courts and managed to block billions in aid pandemic for women and minority-owned businesses. There is a mas

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term. He joins me now, MSNBC political contributor Galani Cobb, he's a staff writer at the New Yorker and dean of Columbia's journalism school, also with me. is the investigative journalist Jee Guerero she is the author of The Hatemonger Steve Miller Steven Miller Donald Trump and the white nationalist agenda Jean galani thank you both very much for coming to the show on Saturday Jean help us understand Steven Miller's ideology what is it his vision for America his vision is a white nationalist America and this agenda that you described is something that he has been dreaming of for a long time.

In my book I traced how Miller was radicalized as a teenager by far-

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provocateurs who believed that racism against black and brown people was not a problem and that the real problem in American society was racism against white people. This is an idea that originated with white supremacists like David Duke, who in the 1970s called white men the quote "true

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-class citizens in America," but was largely rejected back then. and Fringe In 2024, its widespread policy nonsense thanks to Stephen Miller and Jelani Miller's Law Firm released this ad in October 2022 listen to this, when did anti-white racism become acceptable?

Progressive Corporation Airlines universities openly discriminate against white Americans racism is always wrong, the left Anti-white bigotry must end, we are all entitled to equal treatment under the galani law, the word is yours, well, I mean, It's interesting. I would point your viewers to a body of scholarly work that examines these same questions about the ways in which uh anti-white. -The discrimination policy can be used against the group that has historically been subject to discrimination and for the group that has historically benefited from that discrimination, the name of that academic body, if you want to guess and you haven't yet, is a critical race theory, uh and So this is kind of a textbook example of this very thing.

I want to make a comment on the previous question, which is that this is part of a much older tradition. You know, this is the mythology of the lost cause. How did the Confederates later? At the end of the Civil War they actually imagined themselves as people who had fought a war for the right to buy, sell, rape, abuse, traffic, and exploit human beings, they imagined themselves as the victims, and that happened immediately after the War, if you look inward. In the debates over the Civil Rights Act of 1964 one of the most notable things you hear is this same tension in the Southern legislature after a Southern legislator stands up and says that they oppose discrimination and therefore They can't support the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because I think it discriminates against whites, uh, and it's the same kind of playbook, so this is not a novel development, this is something we've seen for a long time, already You know, I was going to jump to immigration, a question about immigration, but given what Galani just said.

I wonder how Miller has been preparing to reform the Justice Department. It's primarily been through his nonprofit legal organization America First, which has focused on dismantling programs that are intended to benefit historically underrepresented and historically marginalized communities, um, like programs. benefiting black farmers or women and minority-owned restaurants, um, and my prediction is that in a second Trump term, based on everything that Miller has been doing across the United States compared to the legal, we would not only see the Justice Department armed to dismantle affirmative action programs. benefiting people of color across the country, we would also see the creation of an affirmative action agenda focused on benefiting whites and Jelani, so what would it mean to lose the Department of Justice as a side stop to safeguarding civil rights?

I mean, it would be a rearguard march, there's no question, you know, what would happen would be kind of open season on any kind of equitable policy or practice, anything that has addressed the legacy and impact of unequal treatment of the discrimination due to inequality, etc. I would be vulnerable in that sense and this is what that world could look like and Stephen Miller would be at the center of it all galani cob Gene GTO thank you both so much for coming on the show on Saturday Hello everyone, MSNBC has a new and improved app you will get alerts and real-time analysis live blogs in-depth essays featured videos and the best coverage of the 2024 election download the new MSNBC app here's how to do it tap the App Store on your phone press search at the bottom right In the corner you write MSNBC , you click on the MSNBC app, click get or the cloud icon and enjoy it.