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Good night. I'm Dana Bash, CNN domestic politics anchor and co-host of State of the. Union I'm Jake Tapper, CNN anchor, leader and co-host of the State of the Union, Dana and I will be co-moderators tonight. Our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight before introducing them. We want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen President Biden will appear on the right side a drawing will determine their positions each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttal an additional minute for follow-up clarifications or response is at the discretion of the moderator when it is time for a candidate to speak, their microphone will be turned on and their opponent's microphone will be turned off if a candidate interrupts when their microphone is muted. will be difficult for viewers at home to understand at the end of the debate each candidate will have two minutes for closing statements no studio audience tonight pre-written notes no props or contact with campaign staff allowed during the debate by accepting our invitation to debate both candidates and their campaigns have agreed to accept these rules now please welcome the 46th president of the United States Joe Biden.

It's great to be here, thank you and please welcome the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump, gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. start the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say is their main concern the economy President Biden inflation has slowed but prices remain high since he took office the price of essential products has increased, for example, a food basket that used to cost $100 and now costs more than $120 and typical home prices are up more than 30%, what do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?

We have to take a look at what I was left with when I became president, what Mr. Trump left me with we had an economy in free fall the pandemic was so mismanaged a lot of people were dying all he said was it's not that bad it's just inject some bleach in your arm you'll be fine the economy collapsed there were no jobs the unemployment rate rose to 15% it was terrible so what we had to do is try to put things back together that's exactly what we started doing. We created 15,000 new jobs. We created a position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing jobs, but there is more. to be done there is more to do working class people are still in trouble I come from Scranton Pennsylvania I come from a family where the kitchen table if things couldn't be done on Monday was a problem the price of eggs the price of gasoline the price of housing the price of a whole range of things that's why I'm working so hard to make sure we address those issues and we'll make sure we get the price of housing down, we'll make sure we build two million new units, we'll make sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't take over the mix, but what's left in corporate greed is the reason we're in this trouble right now, plus we're in a situation where if You look at everything that was done in his administration, he didn't do much when he left there, things were a mess, literally a mess, so we put things back together.

We created, I said, those jobs, we made sure that we have a situation where we now lower the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people, to $15 for an insulin injection, instead of $400, not one person older has to pay more. of $200 for any drug, all the drugs that can be included starting next year in a situation like the one that occurs and we are going to make them available to everyone, to all Americans, so we are working to reduce the price in the kitchen table and that's what we're going to do, thank you President Trump, we had the largest economy in the history of our country, we had never done it so well, everyone was amazed by it, other countries were copying us, we Covid hit and when we did, we spent the money necessary to not end up in a Great Depression like the one we had in 1929, but when we finished, we did a great job, we got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things, everything was going well, but what we never got the credit for and should have done is getting us out of that covid mess.

He created mandates that were a disaster for our country, but other than that, If we had given them back a country where the stock market was actually higher than before and no one thought that was possible, the only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and recovery jobs, a company recovery, has not done a good job. he did a bad job on inflation that is killing our country, it is absolutely killing us thank you President Biden, look, the largest economy in the world, he is the only one who thinks that. I don't think I know anyone else who thinks he's the biggest economy in the world. the world and you know the fact of the matter is that we ourselves are in a situation where your economy rewarded the rich.

He had the largest tax cut in American history. $2 billion. He ran up a deficit larger than any president in any country. During his tenure, he is the only president besides Herbert Hoover who has lost more jobs than when he started, since Herbert Hoover had the idea that he did something significant in the military. When he was president, people were still being killed in Afghanistan. We didn't do anything about it when he was president, we were still in a position where we had the notion that we were a safe country. The truth is that I am the only president of this century who has none in this decade.

Don't let troops die anywhere in the world like he did, President Trump, I want to follow up if I can, if you want, I allowed myself to respond well, I'm going to ask you for a follow up, you can do whatever you want. The moment we give him, um, I want to follow him, he wants to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the US, how are you going to make sure that doesn't drive prices up even more? Having countries that have been ripping us off for years, like China and many others, to be fair to China, will simply force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit enormously and give us a lot of power for other things, but did he make a statement? ?

The only thing he was right about is that I gave them the biggest tax cut in history. I also gave them the biggest regulatory cut in history. That's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they recovered and he's taking credit for the recovery jobs, you can't do that, he also said he inherited 9% inflation, now he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 4 15 months and then it exploded under their leadership because they spent a ton of money. of people who didn't know what they were doing and don't know what they were doing, it was the worst, probably the worst Administration in history that there has ever been and, as far as Afghanistan is concerned, I was leaving Afghanistan, but we were leaving with dignity with strength with power came out it was the most shameful day in the history of the life of our country president

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over the last eight years under his two administrations the national debt reached record levels and according to a new non-partisan analysis president

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, his administration approved $8.4 trillion in new debt, while so far President Biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt, so former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year, you want to extend them.

And go even further, he says, with the United States facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less taxes than they do now because the tax cuts stimulated the largest economy ever? We have never seen just before Co and even after Co it was so strong that we were able to overcome Co much better than any other country, but we stimulate that tax now, when we reduce taxes, for example, the corporate tax was reduced from 39% to 21 %. Plus, beyond that, we got more revenue with far less taxes and businesses were bringing trillions of dollars into our country.

The country was going like never before and we were ready to start paying the debt. We are ready to start using the liquid. gold right under our feet, oil and gas right under our feet, we were going to have something no one else has had, covid hit us, we did a lot to fix it. I gave him an incredible situation with all the Therapeutics and all the things we came up with we gave him something great, remember more people died under his administration even though we had largely solved it, more people died under his administration than the ours and we were right in the middle of this, something that many people don't like to talk about, but he had many more people dying during his administration.

He fulfilled the mandate, which is a disaster, by ordering the vaccine to go out. He made a mandate on the vaccine, which is what people objected to most about the vaccine and he did a very poor job, just a very poor job and I will tell you that not only are they poor there but around the world we are no longer respected as a country , they don't respect our leadership, they don't respect the United States. America we are already like a third world Le between using weapons of your choice trying to persecute your political opponent all the things you have done we have become a third world nation and it is a shame the damage you have done to our country and I I would love to ask you and I will ask you why you allowed millions of people to come here from prisons, jails and mental institutions to come to our country and destroy our country.

President Trump, we will get to the issue of immigration later in this block. President Biden, uh, I want to. to give you a chance to answer this question about the national debt, he had the largest national debt of any president, four year term, number one, number two, that $2 trillion tax cut benefited the very rich. . What I'm going to do is fix the tax. system, for example, we have a thousand billionaires in the United States, I mean, billionaires in the United States and what is happening is that they are in a situation where they actually pay 88.2% in taxes if they only paid 24% or 25%, any of those figures we raised $500 million billion dollars.

I must say that in a period of 10 years we could eliminate his debt. We could help ensure that all those things we need to do. Childcare. Elderly care. Making sure that Continue to strengthen our healthcare system by making sure that we can make every single person eligible for what I've been able to do with Covid, excuse me, dealing with everything that we have to do. uh look we finally beat Medicare thank you President uh Biden President Trump well you're right, he beat Medicare, he beat it to death and he's destroying Medicare because all these people are coming in, they're putting them on Medicare, they're putting them. about Social Security they are going to destroy Social Security this man is going to destroy Social Security single handedly these millions and millions of people that are coming are trying to put them on Social Security he will eliminate Social Security he will eliminate Medicare, so He was right in the way he finished that sentence and it's a shame you can't believe what has happened to our country in the last four years.

Foreign countries. I am friends with many people who cannot believe what happened to the United States. States of America we are no longer respected, they don't like us, we give them everything they want and they think we are stupid, they think we are very stupid people, what we are doing for other countries and they do nothing. to us what this man has done is absolutely criminal thank you president Trump danana this is the

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election since the Supreme Court overturned roie Wade this morning the Court ruled on another abortion case temporarily allowing emergency abortionscontinue in Idaho despite that state's restrictions banning former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn Roie Wade, which properly returned the abortion issue to the states;

However, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to the abortion pills that are used in approximately 2-thirds of the United States. all abortions, as president, could you block abortion medications? First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion pill and I agree with their decision to have done so and I will not block it, and if you look at this whole question you are asking, complex, but not really complex, 51 years ago we had Ro v Wade and everyone wanted to return him to the United States, everyone without exception, the Democrats, the Republicans, the liberals, the conservatives, everyone wanted him back, the religious leaders and what I did was put three great Supreme Court justices in the table. court and voted to kill Ro vWade and transport him back to the United States, this is something everyone wanted now.

About 10 years ago they started talking about how many and how many are getting into other things, but all the jurists around the world, the most respected ones, wanted it brought back to the United States. States I did that now states are figuring it out if you look at Ohio it was a decision it was an end result that was a little more liberal than you would have thought uh Kansas I would say the same thing uh Texas is Florida different it's different but they're all making their own decisions at this moment and at this moment the states control it that is the vote of people like Ronald re rean I believe in exceptions I am a person who believes and frankly I think it is important I believe in exceptions some people you have to follow your heart some people don't believe in that but I believe in exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother I think it is very important some people don't follow your heart but you have to be chosen too and because that has to do with other things you have to be elected the problem they have is that they are radical because they take the life of a child in the eighth month, in the ninth month and even after birth after birth if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this , said: We will put the baby aside and determine what we will do with the baby, that is, we will kill it.

What happened? We brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue, it's been a great thing, thank you, President Biden, it's been a terrible thing, what you've done, the fact is the vast majority of constitutional scholars do it. support when it was decided to support it. The fight and that's the idea that everyone is against it is just ridiculous and this is the guy saying the state should be able to have it we're in a state in six weeks you don't even know if you're pregnant or not but you can't see a doctor, have him decide what your circumstances are, if you need help, the idea that states can do this is a little like saying we're going to bring back civil rights. to the United States.

Let each state have a different rule. Look, there are so many young women who have been including a young woman who was just murdered and he went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming to them. let's talk about it, but here's the deal, there are many young women who are being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters, it's just, it's just ridiculous and they can't do anything about it and they try to arrest. them when they cross the state border, thank you, there have been many young women murdered by the same people he allowed to cross our border.

We have a border that is the most dangerous place in the world, considered the most dangerous place in the world and he opened it and these murderers are coming into our country and they are raping and killing women and it is a terrible thing when it comes to abortions. Now it's back in the states, the states are voting. In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal situation. The decision in many cases is the opposite, but they are voting and they are bringing it back to the people's vote, which is what everyone wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which, frankly, they didn't, but everyone They wanted it brought.

Ronald Reagan wanted it back, he couldn't get it, everyone wanted it back, and many presidents had tried to get it back. I was the one who did it and again this gives him the vote of the people and that is where all the jurists wanted it. I wanted it that way. Continuing with the topic of abortion. President Biden. Seven states. I'll let you do it. This is the same topic. Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy.

I supported the line against Wade, who had three trimesters, the first time is between the woman and the doctor, the second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation, the third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the woman and the state, the idea that politicians and founders want politicians to make decisions about women's health is ridiculous, that's the bottom line, no politician should make that decision, a doctor should make those decisions. decisions that's how it should be carried out that's what you're going to do and if I'm elected I'm going to restore roie Wade so that means I can take the baby's life in the ninth month and even after birth because some states Democrats take it after birth again the governor the former governor of Virginia put the baby on the floor and then we decide what to do with it to get it in, he is willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill it.

No one wants that to happen, no one, Democrat or Republican, wants it to happen. That is simply not true. The Roie method does not foresee that. That is not the circumstance. Only if the woman's life is in danger, she is going to die. That is the only circumstance in which that can happen but we are not in favor of late term abortion period period period under roie W you have a late abortion you can do whatever you want depending on the state you can do whatever you want we don't think it's a good thing we think it's a radical thing we think the Democrats are the radicals, not the republicans.

For 51 years, that was a law. 51 consistent years of scholarship said it was the right way to go. 51 years and they took it away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court that he takes. credit for taking it away, what is he going to do? What are you actually going to do? If the Maga Republicans elect him and the Maga Republicans control Congress and pass a Universal pickup on the abortion period across the board at six or seven weeks. or eight or 10 weeks something very very conservative he's going to sign that bill he's going to veto it he's going to sign it thank you, let's move on to the issue of immigration and border security President Biden a record number of immigrants have illegally crossed the southern border under his

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It overwhelms border states and overburdens cities like New York and Chicago and, in some cases, causes concerns about safety and security, as why should voters trust you to solve this crisis?

Because we worked very hard to achieve a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all that and made sure that we were in a situation where there were no circumstances where they could cross the border with the number of border police that there are. We now significantly increased the number of asylum officers because of the way the border patrol supported me. supported my position in addition to the fact that we found ourselves in a situation where when he was president he separated babies from their mothers and put them in cages making sure that the families were separated, that is not the right way to proceed, which I have fact since I changed the law, what happened I changed it in such a way that now you are in a situation where there are 40% fewer people crossing the border legally, that is better than when he left office and I'm leaving. continue to move forward until we get the total ban on the total initiative in relation to what we can do with more border patrols and more asylum officers president Trump, I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.

I don't think you know what he said, look, we had the most secure border in the history of our country. B, all he had to do is leave her, all he had to do is leave her, he decided to open our border, open our country to people who are in prisons people who are in mental institutions terrorist asylums we have the largest number of terrorists entering our country right now all the terrorists around the world not just in South America around the world are coming from the Middle East everywhere everyone around the world is coming and this guy just left it open and he didn't need legislation because I don't It had legislation.

I said close the border, we had the most secure border in history in the last months of my presidency. we had according to the border patrol who is great and by the way who endorsed me for president but I won't say that but they endorse me for president Brandon just talk to him but look we had the most secure border in history now we have the worst In the history of the border there has never been anything like it and people are dying everywhere, including people who are emerging with President Trump, President Biden, the only terrorist who has done anything crossing the border is one who came and killed three under his administration. a member of Al-Qaeda enters and his administration kills three American soldiers kills three American soldiers that is the only terrorist there I am not saying that no terrorist has managed to get through, but the idea that they are emptying their prisons, we are, we are welcome these people that is simply not true there is no data to support what you said once again you are exaggerating you are lying president Trump um continue with the issue of immigration you have said that you are going to carry out quote the deportation operation largest national in American history in quotes means that you will deport all undocumented immigrants in the United States, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, and those who have lived here for decades.

If so, how will you do it? Just a second, he said: we killed three. The people we killed are Al Baghdaddy and Salaman, the two biggest terrorists, the biggest terrorists in the world and he had a big impact on everything, not just the limit of everything, he is the one who kills people with the bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying. and also killing our citizens when they enter. We are living in a rat's nest right now. They are killing our people in New York, in California, in all the states of the Union because we no longer have borders.

Each state is now a border. and because of their ridiculous, crazy, very stupid policies, people are coming in and killing our citizens at a level we've never had. We call it migrant crime. I call it Biden's migrant crime. They are killing our citizens at one level. that we've never seen before and you're reading it as these three incredible young women in the last few days, one of them just talked to her mother and they just had the funeral of this 12-year-old girl. This is horrible what you are taking. place what is happening in our country, we are literally an uncivilized country now he doesn't want it to be that way, he just doesn't know that he opened the borders, no one has seen anything like this and we have to get a lot of these people out and we have to get them out quickly because They are going to destroy our country, just look where they live, they live in luxury hotels in New York City and other places, our veterans are on the streets, they are dying. because he doesn't care about our veterans, he doesn't care, he doesn't like the military at all and he doesn't care about our veterans, no one has been worse.

I had the highest approval rating for veterans dealing with the VA that he has. The worst thing is that he got rid of all the things that I approved and that I got in Congress all the different things that I approved they abandoned we had by far the highest and now it's been reduced to less than half because he's done all these great things that He did it and I think he did it only because I approved of it, which is crazy, but he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all these people to come on a very sad day.

And President Biden, you have the microphone, every single thing he said. It's a lie, every single one of them, for example, the veterans are much better since I P passed the pack attack. A million of them now have insurance and their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or the burning wells? everyone is being covered up now and he is opposed to his group opposing that, also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans, my son spent a year in Iraq living next to one of those burn pits and returned with Stage for G blastoma.

I was recently in France for D-Day and talked to everyone about the heroes who died. I went to the World War II cemetery. Cemetery of the FirstWorld War. He refused to go, he was standing with his four star general and he said to me. He said: I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and fools my son wasn't a loser he wasn't a fool you're the fool you're the loser President Trump uh, first of all, that was a made up quote fools and losers made it up it was in a third rate magazine that is failing like many of these magazines uh he invented that he put it in commercials we notified him that we had 19 people who said I didn't say it and think about this, who would say I'm in a cemetery or that I'm talking about our veterans because no one has taken better care of our soldiers?

I'm so glad this came up and he brought it up. There is no one who has taken better care of our soldiers than me. I have to think that in front of generals and others he would say fools and losers, we have 19 people who said that I never said it, it was invented by him just like Russia. Russia Russia was made just as the 51 intelligence agents are made. just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking, it's the same as 51 intelligence agents said the laptop was disinformation from Russia, it wasn't the one that came from his son Hunter, it wasn't disinformation from Russia, he invented the fools and losers, so you should apologize to me right now.

The four-star general next to you was on your staff and he said you said it and that's it, that's number one and number two, the idea, the idea that I have to do it. I apologize for anything in the sense that we have done more for veterans than any president in American history. History of the United States and now they are his family. The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to take care of our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war that's what we're doing that's what the VA is doing now they're doing more for veterans than ever before. earlier in our story very good, thank you very much, let's move on to the topic of foreign policy I want to start with Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in its third year.

Former President Trump. Russian President Vladimir Putin says he will only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it already claims and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO. Putin's terms are acceptable to you, first of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy, they can't stand him, they think he's the worst commander in chief, if that's what they call him, that we've ever had. I can't stand him, so let's get this straight and you like me more than any of them and that's based on every bit of information about Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, the president who knew that Putin respected him. he would never have invaded Ukraine, there are a lot of people dead right now, a lot more than people know, you know, they talk about numbers, you can double those numbers, maybe triple them, he didn't do anything to stop it, in fact I think encouraged Russia.

Since I entered I tell you what happened. It was so bad with Afghanistan. It was such a horrible shame, the most shameful moment in the history of our country that when Putin saw that and he saw the incompetence that he should have fired those generals like me. He fired the one you mentioned, so he didn't lose any love, but he should have fired those generals. No general was fired for the most shameful moment in our country's history, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars worth of equipment, we lost 13 beautiful soldiers. and 38 soldiers were wiped out and the way we left people behind we also left American citizens behind when Putin saw that he said you know what I think we're going to go in and maybe take my this was his dream that I talked to If it is his dream, the difference is that he would never have invaded Ukraine, never, just like Israel, would never have been invaded by Hamas in a million years.

You know why? Because Iran was bankrupt with me, I wouldn't let anyone do business with them, they ran out. money they were broke they didn't have money for Hamas they didn't have money for anything they didn't have money for terrorism that's why there was no terrorism during my administration this place the whole world is exploding under their president Biden I have never heard so much Malar in my entire life, look , the fact of the matter is that we are in a situation where we take the last point. First, Iran attacked American troops and caused brain damage to several of these troops and did nothing about it recently when it was. president, they attacked, he said they just had headaches, that's all, he did nothing when they attacked, number one took place, number two, we got over 100,000 Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that airlift, number three we found.

We're in a situation where if you look at what Trump did in Ukraine, this guy told Ukraine he told Trump to do whatever you want and do whatever you want and that's exactly what Trump told him. made Putin, encourage him to do whatever you want and he came in. Listen to what he said when he came in, it was going to take five days. Remember, because it is part of the former Soviet Union, that is what he wanted to restore, and in fact he didn't do it at all. He didn't. They couldn't do it and they lost thousands of thousands of dollars. troops, 500,000 troops, President Trump.

I'll come back to you for a minute. I just want to go back to my original question, which is Putin's terms. It is acceptable for you to keep the territory in the UK. Acceptable, no, they are not acceptable, but look, this is a war that should never have started if we had a leader in this war, he led everyone, he has given 200 billion dollars now or more to Ukraine, he has given 200 dollars. One billion, that's a lot of money. I don't think there has been anything like that. Every time Zalinski comes to this country, he leaves with $60 billion.

He is the best salesman of all time and I am not criticizing him. I'm not criticizing anything. I'm just saying that the money we're spending on this war that we shouldn't be spending should never have happened. I will have that war resolved between Putin and Zalinski as president-elect before he takes office on January 20. that the war has solved the death of people so unnecessarily and so stupidly and I will fix it and I will fix it quickly before I take office President Biden, you have a minute, the fact is that Putin is a war criminal, he has killed thousands and thousands of people and he has made one thing clear: he wants to restore what was part of the Soviet Empire, not just a piece, he wants all of Ukraine, that's what he wants and then you think he will stop there, do you think he will stop when If he takes Ukraine, what do you think will happen to Poland?

What do you think Bellarus what do you think he will happen to those NATO countries? So if you want a war, you should find out what he's going to do, because if he does, he wants it. what he says and he walks away by the way all that money that we give to Ukraine from the weapons that we make here in the United States we give them the weapons, not the money right now and our NATO allies have produced both financing for Ukraine and we That's why we are strong, thank you, we advance towards the Middle East in October.

Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than a thousand people and taking hundreds of hostages among those detained and thought to be still alive. Our five Americans. Israel's response has killed thousands. of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza President Biden has put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict but so far Hamas has not released the remaining hostages and Israel continues its military offensive in Gaza, so what additional leverage will he use to achieve this? Hamas and Israel to end the war, they have two minutes, number one. Everyone, from the UN Security Council to the G7, the Israelis and Neto himself, has endorsed the plan I presented, which has three stages: the first stage is the exchange of hostages for a ceasefire, the second stage It is a ceasefire with additional conditions the third phase is not the end of the war the only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas number one, they are the only ones who stand out We are still putting a lot of pressure on them to accept in the meantime what happened in Israel.

We found out that the only thing I denied to Israel was 2,000 pound bombs. They don't work very well in populated areas. They have a lot of innocent people. we're providing Israel with all the weapons it needs and when it needs them and by the way, I'm the guy who organized the world against Iran when they had a full-blown ICBM attack on Israel, no one was hurt, no. an Israeli was accidentally killed and stopped, we saved Israel, we are the largest producer of support for Israel than anyone else in the world, so they are two different things, Hamas cannot be allowed to continue, we continue to send our experts and our smart people on how they can get Hamas like we did with Bin Laden, they don't have to and by the way, they have been weakened a lot and they should be, they should be eliminated, but they have to be. be careful with the use of certain weapons between population centers, just going back to Ukraine for a second, we have an ocean separating us, the European nations together have spent a hundred billion or maybe more than that less than us, why Don't you call them and tell them?

I have to contribute your money like I did with NATO. I asked them to contribute hundreds of billions of dollars. The NATO Secretary General said Trump did the most incredible job he has ever seen. Wouldn't they? They would have nothing. we were going out of business we were spending almost 100% of the money we paid for it he didn't do that he is getting everything you have to ask these people to put up the money we have spent over a hundred billion dollars more and it has an impact major on them because of the location because we have an ocean in the middle, you have to ask them until Israel and Hamas Israel is the one that wants to go.

He said that the only one who wants to continue is actually Hamas. Israel is the one and you should let him go and let him finish a job, he doesn't want to do it, he has become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he is a very bad Palestinian, he is weak. President Biden, you have a minute, I have never heard so much nonsense. This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO. Will you stay in NATO? He is going to withdraw from NATO. The idea that our strength lies in our alliances can too.

It will be a big ocean, but can we ever avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe, what happens if, in fact, Putin continues to join NATO? We have an article five agreement. Attacking one is Attacking everything you want. start the nuclear war you keep talking about go ahead let Putin come in and control Ukraine and then move on to Poland and other places see what happens then you have no idea what the hell you are talking about and by the way I have 50 other nations around. The world supports Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea, because they understand that this type of dislocation represents a serious threat to all world peace.

No, no major war in Europe has been contained, only for President Trump to follow Europe. above, would you support the creation of an independent Palestinian state to achieve peace in the region? I would have to see it, but before I do, the problem we have is that we spent all the money to get killed in the trade I made. Great trade deals with European nations because if you add them up they are about the same size economically, their economy is about the same size as the United States and they didn't have cars, no, they don't want anything we have except us.

They're supposed to take their cars, their food, everything, their agriculture. I changed that, but the most important thing I changed is that they don't want to pay and the only reason he can play with NATO is because I asked them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars I said and he's right about this I said no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay they asked me that question would you protect us against Russia in a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time Nations at that time and they said no if you don't pay I'm not going to do that and you know What happened, billions and billions of dollars flowed the next day and in the following months, but now we are in the same position we are paying everyone's bills, let's move on to the topic of democracy former president Trump I want to ask you about the January 6, 2021 After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the capital to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes As president, you took an oath to quote, preserve, protect and defend, quote, the Constitution, what does it say to voters who believe he violated that oath through his actions and in action on January 6th and are concerned that he will do it again?

I think many believe that and let me tell you about January 6th. On January 6th we had a big border. Nobody passed by very few on January 6. We were energy independent on January 6th. We had the lowest taxes in history. We had the lowest regulations in January. 6 we were respected around the world around the world we were respected and then he comes in and now we are left as a group of stupid people what happened to the reputation of the United States under the leadership of thisman is horrible including his use of weapons, which I'm sure at some point you'll talk about where he's going after his political opponent because he can't beat him fairly.

You have 80 seconds left. My question was: what do you tell voters to believe? that you VI violated your constitutional oath through your actions in action on January 6, 2021 and I am concerned that you will do it right again. I didn't say that to anyone, I said it peacefully and patriotically and to Nancy Pelosi if she only saw the news two days ago on tape to her daughter who is a documentary filmmaker they say but she says oh it's not my responsibility I was responsible for this because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard and she rejected them and the mayor in writing by the way the mayor in writing rejected it the mayor of DC they rejected it I offered 10,000 because I could see that I had practically nothing to do they asked me to go give a speech I could see what was going on everyone was saying they were going to I'll be there on January 6, they'll be there and I said, "You know, a lot of people are coming." You could feel it, you could feel it too and you could feel it and I said they should have some National Guard or whatever and I offered it to him and now he admits he turned it down and it was the same day he was, I don't know, he can't be very happy with his daughter because he turned her into a liar, he said, I take full responsibility. for January 6, President Biden, look, encouraged people to go up to the Capitol number one.

I sat in the dining room facing the Oval Office. He sat there for three hours, three hours,

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ing his vice president and several of his colleagues beg. on the republican side also to do something to call a stop and put an end to this, instead he talked, talked about thesepeople are patriots and great patrons of America, in fact he says he will now forgive them for what they have done If they have been convicted, he says he wants to commute their sentences and he says no, but he went to all the single court in the nation, I don't know how many cases, dozens of cases, including the Supreme Court, and they said they said no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being done, he did a damn thing and these people should be in jail and they should be the ones being held accountable and he wants to let them all out and now he says if he loses again like It's, it could be a bloodbath, thank you, President Biden, President Trump, what you did.

You've done it to some people who are so innocent you should be ashamed of yourself. What you have done. How you have destroyed so many people's lives when RI in Portland when they tear down uh many other cities. You go to Minnesota. Minneapolis. That? They already put an end to the fires all over the city, if they hadn't brought in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed when you look at everything, they took over large portions of Seattle. I was ready to bring the National Guard, they heard they saw them coming and they left immediately.

What he said about this whole topic is so peacefully patriotic. Another thing is the unselected committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans who are no longer in office and the Democrats, all the Democrats. They destroyed and deleted all the information they found because they found out that we were right, we were right and they deleted and destroyed all the information, they should go to jail for that, if a Republican did that, they would go to jail, thank you president. Trump President Biden I want to give you a minute, the only person on this stage is a convicted felon and he's the man I'm looking at right now and the fact is he's not, what he's telling you just isn't.

It's true, the fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was happening at the Capitol and all of those people, every single one of those who were convicted, deserve to be convicted. The idea that they didn't kill someone just entered. and they broke down doors they broke windows occupied offices they overturned desks they overturned statues the idea that these people are patriots come on when I asked him the first two debates we had the debates we had the first time I said: are you going to denounce the proud boy? He said no, I will tell you to keep the idea that he refuses to denounce these guys, denounce the people we are talking about now, denounce the people who attack that Capital, what are you going to do? to give you a minute, President Trump, for a follow-up question.

I have um, after a jury convicted him of 34 felonies last month, he said that if he were re-elected, he would quote that he would have every right to go after his political opponents, he just spoke about members of the select committee on the 6th January is going to jail your main political opponent is on stage with you tonight can you clarify exactly what it means that you feel you have every right to go after your political opponents? Well, I said my retribution will be a success. We are going to make this country successful again because right now it is a failed nation.

My retribution will be success, but when you talk about a convicted criminal, his son is a very high-level convicted Fon. Your son will be condemned. convicted probably many other times he should have been convicted sooner, but the Justice Department let the statute of limitations expire on the most important things, but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all things. what he has done, he has done horrible things, all the deaths caused at the border, telling the Ukrainian people that we are going to want a billion dollars or change the prosecutor, otherwise you will not get a billion dollars if I ever say that . that is quid proquo that we are not going to do anything we are not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change the prosecutor that has to do with his son this man is a criminal this man you are lucky you are lucky I did nothing wrong, we would have a manipulated and disgusting system.

I didn't do anything wrong, thank you, President Trump, President Biden, you said I'm coming right to you, sir, well, you want to respond, go ahead, I'll give you a minute. Responding to the idea that I did something wrong in relation to what you're talking about is outrageous, it's just a lie number one, number two, the idea that you have the right to seek retaliation against any American just because your president is wrong, it's just bad, no. no president has ever spoken like this before, no one present in our history has spoken like this before number three, the crimes he is still accused of and think about all the civil penalties he has, how many billions of dollars do he owe in civil penalties? for sexually abusing a woman in public for doing a whole host of things, like having sex with a porn star the night while his wife was pregnant.

I mean, what is he talking about? He has the morals of a stray cat. Give him a minute, sir. I did not do it. having sex with a porn star number one, number two, that was a case that was started and moved, they moved a high-ranking official, a justice department, to the Manhattan district attorney's office to start that case , that case is going to be appealed in one, we had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat, the prosecutor were all high-ranking Democrat appointees and both the civil and the criminal, he basically went after his political opponent because he thought that he was going to hurt me, but when the public found out about these cases because they understand them better than he does, he has no idea what these cases are, but when they found out about these cases, you know what they did, my numbers in the surveys went up a lot, you know it because you are reporting it and we take it into account. more money in the last two weeks than we have raised in the history of any campaign.

I don't think any campaign has raised hundreds of millions of dollars because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy. that's going after his political opponent because he can't win fairly thank you president trump president

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you said quote donald trump and his magga republicans are determined to destroy american democracy do you think the tens of millions of americans who probably vote for President Trump you will vote against American democracy the more you know about what he has done yes the more you will know about what he has done and there is much more to come it has many cases on the way to come it has a whole range of issues that has to face.

I don't know what the jurors are going to do, but I knew and know that he has a real problem, so the fact that they would ever hear a president say I'm going to seek retribution - have you ever heard a president say that? ? I thought Hitler had some good ideas, which led me to run for the top spot after my son died. I decided to go to Iraq because of Iraq. I said I wouldn't run again until I saw what happened in Charlottesville Virginia people coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches and chanting the same anti-Semitic B that they sang when they returned to Germany and what they did and they killed the young girl they talked to the mother and she told him They asked, he said: what do you think of those people?

The people who were murdered, the ones who tried to stop him and the others. She said: I think they are good people on both sides. What would the American president say? Nazis leaving the camps. carrying torches singing the same anti-Semitic B carrying swastikas they were good people this is the guy who says Hitler did some good things I like to know what good things Hitler did that's what this guy said he has no sense of American democracy president Trump Jake, you both know that story has been totally erased because when you see the sentence it said 100% exoneration on that, so he goes on to say that he ran for Charlottesville, he didn't run for Charlottesville, he ran because it was his last chance otherwise he is ready to be president you know it and I know it is ridiculous we have a debate we are trying to justify his presidency his presidency is without a doubt the worst president the worst presidency in the history of our country We should not have a debate about it, there is no nothing to debate.

He made up the Charlottesville story and you'll see it's discredited everywhere. Every reasonable presenter has debunked it and the other day it came to light. was completely discredited it's a nonsense story he knows it and he didn't run because of Charlottesville he used it as an excuse to run for president and discredit what happened all you have to do is listen to what was said at the time and the idea of that in some ways that's the only reason I ran. I ran because I was worried that a guy like this might get elected if he thought they were good people coming out of all those woods carrying those torches that he didn't deserve. being president did not deserve to be president at all and the idea that you are talking about this whole thing being made up we saw it with our own eyes we saw what happened on January 6 we saw people breaking the windows we saw people occupying that their own vice president, there is a reason why 40 of his 44 senior cabinet officials refused to endorse him this time his vice president has not endorsed him this time, so why do they know him well?

They serve with him. Why don't they support it? Thank you. President Biden, we'll be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate e e e e e e welcome back to the CNN presidential debate live from Georgia, let's talk about the persistent challenges that both of you faced in your first terms and that you're sure to face again in a second. Under President Biden, while Black unemployment fell to a record low under his presidency, Black families still earn far less than white families, Black mothers are still three times more likely to die from pregnancy-related causes and black Americans are incarcerated at five times the rate of whites.

Americans, what do you say to black voters who are disappointed that they haven't made more progress? They acknowledge that they made great progress. Number one. The fact is that there are more black small businesses that have been started at any time in history. two, black wages, your black unemployment is the lowest it's been in a long time, number three, we find that we provide housing for black Americans and we deal with the segregation that exists between these corporations, these corporate rations that conspire to keep people out of their homes. homes and on top of that we found the impact on the choice that Black families have to make around child care to be incredibly difficult when we did the first major legislation in the past.

I was able to reduce black child care. the costs I cut in half by half we have to make sure that we cover the cost of child care we have to make sure because when you provide that child care protection you increase economic growth because more people can be in the labor market, so there is a lot to do a lot more to do, but we've done a lot so far and I'm not going to give in and they know it, they have 49 seconds left, what do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far?

I say I don't blame them for being disappointed, inflation is still hurting them badly, for example I proposed the idea thatAny black family buying a home for the first time should get a $10,000 tax credit to buy their first home and get started. I made sure that we are in a situation where all those black families and those black people who provided money had to take out student loans that were skyrocketing if they went into medical nursing and anything to do with volunteering if they paid your bills for 10 years on your student debt, all the rest is forgiven after 10 years.

Millions have benefited from that and we are going to do much more for black families. Thank you, President Trump, and he caused inflation. He blames inflation and he is right. He has been very bad, he caused inflation and he is killing black families and Hispanic families and almost everyone he is killing people who can no longer buy food, they can't. Look at the cost of food where it doubles, triples and quadruples. They don't live, they don't live anymore, he caused this inflation. I gave him a country with no inflation, essentially no inflation, it was perfect, it was so good, all he had to do is leave it alone, he destroyed it with his new green scam and everything. the other one, all this money being thrown out the window, he caused inflation, as sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his great death against black people is the millions of people that are allowed in through border. taking black jobs now and it could be 18, it could be 19 and even 20 million people are taking black jobs and they are taking Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen it yet, but you are going to see something that is going to be the worst in our history, thank you President Biden, there was no inflation when I became president, you know why the economy was on its back, 15% unemployment, it decimated the economy, it absolutely decimated the economy, that's why there was no inflation at the time there was. without jobs, we provided billions of jobs for people who were in every community, including minority communities, we made sure they had health insurance that we covered if the ACA has increased.

I made sure they received $8,000 per person and one family. discharged for health reasons, but this guy wants LiLo to try 50 times, he wants to get rid of the ACA again and they're going to try again if they win, we're in a position where the idea that we're not going to do nothing, I put more, we put more police on the street. More than any administration, he wants to cut the police we provide for equity and make sure people have the opportunity to achieve it. There are many things happening, but in inflation, it was caused by its enormous amount of fears in the way of handling the pandemic. thanks, another persistent challenge is the climate crisis. 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country are facing the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels.

Former President Trump has promised to end the climate of his opponent. initiatives, but will he take any action as president to stop the climate crisis? Well, let me go back to what you said about the police, how close the police are to him, almost every law enforcement group in the nation, every state, supports Donald J. Trump. every police group and what they have done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators, we can't, in the 1990s we can't forget that super predators was his name and he was called times 10 and they have been very offended by it and now they see it happening, but when they see what I did for criminal justice and for the historically black colleges and universities where I funded them and got them all funded and the opportunity zones with with Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was amazing, he did a great job, great senator from South Carolina, he came to me with the idea and it was a great idea, it's one of the most successful economic development bills ever made in the areas of opportunity of the country and the greatest The beneficiaries are black and that is why we have the best numbers with them, maybe they will ever say that I read this morning wherever the best numbers have lost a large part of the black population because it has done A horrible job for black people.

He's also done a horrible job. work for Hispanics, but how do you see these millions of people who come to our country and are going to take the jobs and it has already started and you haven't seen anything yet? It's a disaster, you have 38 seconds left, President Trump, will you? take any action as president to curb the climate crisis, so I want absolutely pristine clean water and I want absolutely clean air and we had it, we had H2O, we had the best numbers ever and we did it we were using all forms of energy, all the shapes, everything and yet during my four years I had the best environmental numbers of all time and my most important environmental people gave me that statistic right before I went on stage I actually don't know where the hell the idea that he said has been What's the true.

We passed the most extensive climate change legislation in the history that we're in and, by the way, black colleges. I came up with $50 billion for historically black HBCU colleges and universities because they don't have the type of taxpayers. that they have to build these laboratories and that any black student in college is capable of doing what any white student can do, they just have the money, but now they will be able to get those high-tech jobs, we are in a situation where the idea that he claims to have done something that had the cleanest water, the cleanest water, he had done nothing to the environment, he withdrew from the Paris Peace Agreement Climate Agreement.

I immediately joined in because if we are H 1.5 degrees C at any point where there is no turning back, the only existential threat to humanity is climate change and he did nothing, nothing about it, he must undo everything I did , the Paris Agreement was going to cost us a trillion dollars and China nothing and Russia nothing and India nothing it was a scam from the United States and I ended it because I didn't want to waste that money because they treated us horrible we were the only ones it was costing us money no one else I was paying and it was a disaster, but everything he said a moment ago I'll give you an example.

I heard it said before insulin. I'm the one who lowered insulin for the elderly. I took care of elderly people, what they are doing is destroying all our medical programs because the immigrants who arrive love everyone and look, I have the biggest heart on stage, I guarantee it and I want to take care of people, but we are destroying our country, they are taking over our schools, our hospitals and they are going to take over Social Security. He is destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The idea is that we, in fact, were the only important ones who weren't. members of the Paris Agreement, how can we do something we have not been able to?

America can't control it one of the world's number one biggest polluters we are making significant progress by 2035 we will have reduced pollution by half of what we have achieved we have made significant progress and we will continue to make progress. We created a Climate Corporation where thousands of young people will learn how to deal with the climate just like the core people and we are going to do it. moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements that cause pollution, but the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart here and that he is really concerned about pollution and the climate, I haven't seen any indication of that and so When it came to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which I voluntarily asked for.

I made sure that every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, couldn't have to pay, and by the way, every day, millions of Americans. struggle to make ends meet for many older Americans Social Security provides a critical lifeline President Biden, if nothing is done about Social Security, seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years, could you name tonight a specific step you are willing to take? To keep Social Security solvent, yes, make the wealth they started paying their fair share right now, everyone who earns less than $170,000 pays 6% of their paycheck income every time they get a check of payment from the moment they receive the first one.

I'm 18 years old and I have the idea that they're going to have it, I'm not. I have been proposing that everyone who pays millionaires pay 1% 1% so that no one after that would raise the cost of social security for anyone less than $400,000 after that. began to make the rich start paying their fair share by increasing from 1% Beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life, so it still has 82 seconds left. Are there any other measures that you think could help maintain Social Security? solvent or is it just that one is pretty good, no, that enough will keep him solvent, but the most important thing I will do if we defeat this man because he wants to get rid of Social Security, he believes that there is a lot to cut in Social Security.

He wanted to cut Social Security and Medicare both times and that's what, and if we look at the program put forward by the House Republican caucus that I think supports, we actually want to cut that as well, the idea that we don't need to protect. our seniors is ridiculous, we put it and, by the way, the American public today has greater health care coverage than ever before and under the ACA, as I said, is in a circumstance where 400,000 people 4 I mean, 40 millions of people would not have insurance because having a preexisting condition the only thing that allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they are actually part of the ACA and, by the way, the other thing is that we are in a situation where I talk about education for black communities. raised the number, the amount of money for pel grants another $8,000, so anyone making less than $70,000 a year will be able to get $115,000 for tuition.

It's him he just doesn't know what he's talking about thank you President Biden President Trump so I. I've dealt with politicians all my life. I've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years. I've never seen anyone lie like this guy, he lies. I had never seen it. I could look you in the face. many other things too and we mentioned the laptop we mentioned Russia Russia Russia Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine everything you do is a lie it's misinformation and disinformation uh the losers and fools story you made up is a total lie about the military it's a shame, but social.

Security is being destroyed because millions of people are coming to our country and they are putting them on Social Security, they are putting them on Medicare, Medicaid, they are putting them in our hospitals, they are taking the place of our citizens, they are They are doing the VA to our veterans is incredible. Our veterans live on the streets and these people live in luxury hotels. He doesn't know what he's doing and he's really coming back. I have never seen so much anger in our country before President Biden, the idea that veterans are not being taken care of, I told you before and by the way, when I said fools and losers, he said he acknowledged that he fired that general after that , that general was fired because he was the one who recognized that that's what he said he was supporting Trump when he said it number one, number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation where all these millions and millions in which he talks about it, illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking our jobs there is a reason we have the fastest growing economy in the world the reason we have the most successful economy in the world we are doing better than anyone another nation in the world and by the way those 15 Nobel laats who talked about being fake those 15 economists with Nobel laats all said that if Trump is re-elected we are likely to have a recession and that inflation is going to rise and rise and by the way , the worst president in history, 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in history United States of America President Biden thank you very much, let's move on to the cost of child care that many American families struggle to pay President Trump Both you and President Biden have tried to address this problem, but the average cost of child care in this country has risen to more than $1,000 a year per child for many families the cost of child care for two children is more than your rent in your second term what would you do you to make child care more affordable only to go back when the general got fired? because it was no use and if he said that that's why he made it up but we have 19 people who said I didn't say it and they are respected much more than him.

The other thing is that he doesn't fire people, he never fired people, I never saw him fire anyone. , yes I fired a lot, I fired Comey because he was no good, I fired many of the most important people in the FBI, they drained the swamp, they were no good, it wasn't easier to fire people. He would pay a price for it but they were no good, he fired all the employees.soldiers who were involved with that Afghanistan, the horror show of Afghanistan, the most shameful moment in the history of our country, he did not fire, did he fire anyone, did he fire someone who is on the border and who has allowed us to have the worst border?

In the history of the world, has anyone been fired for allowing 18 million people to be released from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire someone who allowed our country to be destroyed? Joe, our country is being destroyed while you and I sit here and waste a lot of time on this debate this shouldn't be a debate he's the worst president he only said it about me because I said it uh but look he's the worst president in the history of our country, he has destroyed our country now, all of a sudden he's trying to be a little tough on the border, he came out with a nothing, nothing deal and he scaled it back a little, a little like that, it's petty, he wants borders open, he wants our country to be destroyed or he wants to elect those people as voters and I don't think we can allow that to happen if he wins these elections, our country has no chance, not even a chance to get out of this rut, probably we won.

We no longer have a country this bad, it is the worst in history by far, thank you, President Trump, President Biden, we are the most admired country in the world, we the United States of America, there is nothing beyond our capacity, we have the best army in the world. the history of the world the best in the history of the world no one thinks we're weak no one wants to play with us no one number one number two the idea that we're talking about the worst presidents I wasn't kidding look up, get online 159 or 58, no tell me the exact number of presidential historians, they had meetings and voted who was the worst president in the history of the United States, from best to worst, they said he was the worst in the entire history of the United States, that's a fact. that's not it that's not a guess he can argue that they're wrong but that's what they voted for the idea that he knows how to do anything to deal with child care did very little for practically nothing to child care we should significantly increase the tax credit for child care we should significantly increase the availability of women and men or single parents to be able to return to work and we should encourage businesses to wait to thank the president offer President Trump the question was what would you do to make child care more affordable Yes I want to take a minute for you to understand that we have surveys, we have other things that rate him as worse because what he has done is very bad and they rape me, I will show you.

I will show you and they rape me one of the best okay and if I give another four years I'll be the best I think I'll be the best no one has ever created an economy like ours no one has cut taxes like us he's the only one I know he wants to raise his taxes four times he wants to raise everyone's taxes four times he wants let the Trump tax cuts expire so that everyone, including you two, pays four to five times that no one has ever heard of Before this, I was growing up and seeing politicians talking about cutting taxes when we were cutting taxes, like I said, we were doing more business with Apple and all these companies were bringing money back to our country, the worst president in history.

Until now and everyone knows it President Biden, look, the fact of the matter is that he is completely wrong about he has increased the has increased, he will increase taxes on middle class people. I said I will never raise a tax on anyone making less than $400,000. It didn't, but this tariff is 10%. Everything that comes into the country, you know what the economists say, that will cost the average American $2,500 more a year because they will have to pay the difference in food and all the things that were important number two, they are in a situation where which you said you hadn't raised, in some way you helped the middle class, the middle class has been devastated by you, now you want a new 5 trillion tax cut over the next 10 years, which is you are going to fundamentally ruin the country , you had the largest deficit of any president in American history, number one, number two, in fact, you have made no contact, no progress with China, we have the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010, thank you president, thank you president.

But let's talk about an epidemic that affects millions of Americans. You both made the opioid crisis a top priority in your first term, and for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has increased during his term. Over 100,000 Americans die from overdoses each year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids, what will you do to help Americans right now amid the addiction? They are struggling to get the treatment they need to finish now we have the biggest deficit in the history of our country under this guy we have the biggest deficit with China paying him China is a Manchurian candidate he gets money from China we have so much I think he is afraid to try with them or something, but do you realize that he never removed my tariffs because we make a lot of money from the tariffs that I imposed on China?

He never removed them. You can't because it's too much money. tremendous and we saved our steel industries and there was more to come, but he hasn't done it, but he hasn't reduced tariffs because he can't because it's too much money, but he has the largest deficit in the history of our country. our country and it has the worst, the worst situation with China. China is going to own us if you continue to allow them to do what they are doing to us as a country, they are killing us like Country Joe and you can't allow that.

You happen to be destroying our country, so President Trump, you had 67 seconds left and the question was, what are you going to do to help Americans who are struggling with addiction right now and who are struggling to get the treatment they need, Jake, were we doing very well on addiction? until covid arrived, we had two and a half years, almost three, like no one had had before in any country in every sense and then we had to get tough and it was the drugs that crossed the border that began to increase, we became great. equipment we bought a certain dog, that's the most amazing thing you've ever seen, the way they can detect it, we did a lot and we had very low numbers, very, very low numbers, then he showed up, the numbers, have you seen?

The numbers now are not just the 18 million people who I think are even low because they have Goda customs, they don't even talk about Goda customs, but the numbers of the amount of drugs and trafficking of women that cross our border , the worst I can see. I have seen numbers that no one has seen under him because the border is very bad, but the amount of drugs crossing our border now is the largest we have ever had, by far, President Trump, thank you President Biden, fentanyl and its derivatives . Fentanyl went down for a while and I wanted to make sure that we used the machinery that can detect fentanyl, these big machines that go through everything that crosses the border and costs a lot of money, that was part of this bipartisan agreement that we put together. negotiate more fentanyl machines more power to detect drugs more number of agents more number of all the people at the border and when we closed that deal, he went and called his Republican colleague and told him not to do it, it's going to hurt. politically he never argued that it is not a good bill, it is a really good bill, we need those machines, we need those machines and we are falling very hard in all the countries in Asia in terms of fentanyl precursors and Mexico is working with us to manufacture They sure don't have the technology to be able to put it together, that's what we have to do, we need those machines, thank you, President Biden, President Trump, and again the question is about Americans who are in addiction right now. and who struggle to obtain treatment. they need this well because this does apply to him he ended up staying in Mexico he ended Catch and Release I made him catch and release in Mexico not catch and release Here we had so many things that we had made hard negotiations with Mexico and I got everything for nothing, it's like when you have a hostage, we always pay 6 billion dollars for a host, every time we say there is a hostage, now we have a hostage.

The Wall Street Journal reporter, I think he's a good guy and he's there because Putin is laughing at this guy who's probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter. I will take him out very quickly as soon as I take office before I take office I literally said, as soon as I win the election I will take that reporter out, I should have. They took it out a long time ago, but Putin is probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy, every time we had two cases, we paid 6 billion dollars for five people.

I took out 58 people and paid essentially nothing. Thank you, President Trump, Dana. Turn to the concerns voters have about each of you, President Biden, you would be 86 years old at the end of your second term, how do you address concerns about your ability to handle the world's toughest job well into your 80s? Well, first of all, I passed half of it. They criticize me for being the youngest person in politics. I was the second-youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate and now I am the oldest. This guy is three years younger and much less competent.

I think just look at the history. what I have done look how I have changed the horrible situation that left me like I said 15 million new jobs 800,000 manufacturing jobs plus investment in the United States more than millions of billions of dollars in private investment in companies that we are growing for the In that way, we brought to a lot of people the idea that the computer chips we used had 40% of the market, we invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to work cheap to find the cheapest jobs abroad and bring home a product, so I went.

I went to South Korea and convinced Samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States and guess what those factories they call in to build these chips are for. Those factories pay more than $100,000. You don't need a college degree for them. and there are billions, about $40 billion already invested and under construction right now in the United States, creating important jobs for Americans around the world President Biden, you have 40 seconds left, would you like to add anything? Yes, I would like the idea that somehow we are this failed country. I have never heard a president talk like that before that we are the NB of the world.

I name myself a president of a single major country that would not trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities we are the most progressive country in the world and we get things done we are the strongest country in the world we are a country in the world who keeps our word and everyone trusts us all our allies and our ops and those he hugs, from Kim Jung-yong to whom he sends love letters and Putin, etc., they don't want to play with us, thank you, former president Trump, to keep track, you'd be 82 at the end of your second. term, what do you say to voters who have concerns about your ability to serve well?

I took two cognitive tests. I passed both, as you know, we made it public. He didn't take any. I'd like to see him take one, just one a week. very easy, like answering the first five questions, he couldn't do it, but I took two cognitive tests. I had physicals every year and you know, knock on wood wherever we have wood, that I'm very healthy, I just won two club championships, not even two regular club championships to do that, you have to be pretty smart and you have to to be able to hit the ball from a distance and I do it, he doesn't do it, he can't hit it. a 50 yard ball challenged me to a game of golf can't hit a 50 yard ball uh I think I'm in pretty good shape I feel like I'm in as good shape as I was 25 or 30 years ago actually I'm probably a little bit fitter light, but I'm in as good shape as I've been in years.

I feel very good. I feel the same, but I took. I was willing to take a cognitive test and do you know what would happen if I didn't? get it right, I beat Dr. Ronnie Jackson who is a great guy when he was a White House doctor and then I took another similar one and they both said they had never seen anyone. Thank you, President Biden, you can see he is 6 years old. '5 and only 223 PB or 235 PBS well you said 64 200 well that's your anyway just look at what it says it is and see what it is.

I'll be happy to have a driving contest with him. I have my handicap that when I was vice president was reduced to six and by the way, I told you before, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag, I think you can do it, that's the biggest lie, that he's a six. - handicap of everything I had a handicap of eight, yes, eight,but you know how many I've seen you swing, I know you swing, you don't act like children, President Trump, we won't act on a specific concern that voters have about Will you promise tonight that once all legal remedies have been exhausted, you will accept the results of these elections regardless of who wins and will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable?

Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course, I think it's totally unacceptable and if you saw my statements that I made on Twitter at that time and also my statement that I made in the Pink Guard you would say that it is one of the strongest statements that you've never seen. to the speech I gave to the largest crowd I have ever spoken to and I will tell you that no one ever talks about that, they talk about a relatively small number of people who went to the capital and in many cases were accompanied by the police and like Nancy Pelosi He said it was his responsibility, not mine, he said it loud and clear, but the answer is uh, if the elections are fair, free and I love him more than anyone and I'll tell you something I wish he was a great president because he wouldn't be here right now I would be in one of my many places having fun I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent, you know, opponent because he accused me because I was his opponent I wish I was a great president I'd rather not be here I don't mind being here but the only reason I'm here is because he's such a bad president I'm going to make America great again we're going to make America great again we're failing the nation right now we're a seriously failed nation and we're a failed nation because of him his policies are so bad uh his military policies are crazy they are crazy these are wars that will never end with him it will lead us to world war 3 and we are closer to world war 2 than anyone can Imagine, we are very, very close to World War II and he is taking us there and Kim Jong-un and the president of China, Kim Jong-un, of North Korea, all these Putins, they do not respect him, they do not fear him , have nothing to do with this gentleman and he is going to take us to World War II.

Do you want us to leave a First World War? he follow him and win and let Putin say do what you want NATO just do what you want there is something called Article Five an attack on one is an attack on all and requires a response the idea the idea I can't think of a single major leader in the world who I wouldn't trade places with with the work I've done and what they've done because we are a powerful nation, we have a wonderful physical education because of the people, not me, it's because of the American people, they are capable of anything and they they step up when necessary and right now we are needed we are needed to protect the world because our own security is at stake and again you want to have a war just let Putin go ahead and take keeve make sure they move.

Let's see what happens in Poland, Hungary and other places along that border, then we have a President Trump at war. I return to you for a follow-up. The question was: Will he accept the results of this election regardless of who wins, just to finish what he said? If I may, Russia, they took a lot of land from Bush, they took a lot of land from Obama and Biden, they didn't take any land from Trump, nothing that he knew, don't do it, he's not going to play with me, I knew it. I got along very well with him, but he knew not to play, he didn't take anything from me, but now he is going to take everything from this man here, that is a war that should never have started, would never have started with me. and he's going to take Ukraine and you know you asked me a question before: would you do this?

Does he have us in such a bad position right now with Ukraine and Russia? Because Ukraine is not winning that war. He said: I will never settle until that time. they are running out of people they are running out of soldiers they have lost so many people people it is so sad that they have lost so many people and they have lost those beautiful cities with the golden domes that are a thousand years old all because of him and his stupid decisions Russia will never would have attacked if I had presided the question was: Will you accept the election results regardless of who wins yes or no?

Please, if they are a fair, legal and good election, I would absolutely have preferred to accept. these, but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous and if you want, we'll have a press conference about it in a week or we'll have another one of these in a week, but there's definitely nothing I'd rather do. It would be a lot easier for me to do that and then I'll run again. I really wasn't going to run until I saw the horrible job he did, he's destroying our country. I would be very happy to be somewhere else, somewhere nice. and again, there are no accusations, there is no political opponent stuff because it is the only way he thinks he can win, but unfortunately, this is because of the numbers and it has been raised to a very high level because people understand it, let's see What are your numbers when these elections are over.

Let's see, let's see, you are a crybaby when you lost the first time, you continued and appealed and appealed in courts all over the country, not a single court in America said any of your claims had any merit, state or local, none, but you continue to provoke this lie about how somehow there is all this misrepresentation all this theft there is no evidence of that and I tell you what I doubt you will accept it because you are so whiny the idea that if you lose again you accepted everything I can't bear the loss something broke in you because of your loss last time we will be back with more of the CNN presidential debate live from Georgia e e e e e e e the time has come for the candidates to deliver their closing statements as predetermined by a coin let's start with you , President Biden, you have two minutes.

We have made significant progress since the debacle left by President Trump and in his last term we find ourselves in a situation where, first of all, we have to make sure. that we have a fair tax system. I ask anyone in the audience or anyone watching this debate if they think the tax system is fair. The fact is, I said that no one making less than $400,000 had a single cent increase in their taxes and will. no and if I am re-elected that will be the case again, but this guy has raised his taxes because of the number one deficit, he has increased inflation because of the debacle he left after the way he handled the pandemic and he is in a position to the one that now wants to collect more taxes by putting a 10% tariff on everything that enters the United States of America, which I did when, for example, it wants to get its way and get rid of the ability of Medicare so the United States will be able to negotiate medicines with the big agricultural companies, well guess what we have?

We reduced it to 15, excuse me, $35 for insulin instead of $400, no more than $2,000 for each senior, no matter how much prescription they need. Do you know what he did that reduced the federal debt by $160 billion in 10 years because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices? I'm going to make that available to all seniors all the time. It's happening now and everyone in America wants to get rid of what we have. I'm going to make sure we have child care. We are going to significantly increase the credit that people have for child care. I'm going to make sure we do something about it. we're doing with lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country.

We are going to continue fighting to reduce inflation and give people a break. Thank you, President Biden, President Trump, you now have two minutes for your final statement like so many politicians this man is just a complainer he said we want to do this we want to do that we want to get rid of this tax that tax but he doesn't do anything he thinks he doesn't do everything What it does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people into our military, we don't respect it, we looked like fools in Afghanistan, uh, we didn't stop Israel, it was such a horrible thing that would never have happened, should never have happened. happened. it happened Iran was bankrupt anyone who did business with Iran including China they couldn't do business with the United States everyone passed Iran was bankrupt they had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah for terrorism there was no money again Ukraine should never have happened he speaks all this but he didn't do it for three and a half years we are living in hell we have the Palestinians and we have all the other riots everywhere you talk about Charlottesville this is 100 times Charlottesville a thousand times more The whole country is exploding because of you because They don't respect you and they have to respect their president and they don't respect you around the world.

What we did was incredible. We rebuilt the army. We got the biggest tax cut in history. The biggest regulatory cut in history, the reason he has jobs is because I removed the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back into all the things we've done, no one's ever seen anything like that. , even from a medical point of view. to test where we can test space age materials instead of going to Asia or Europe and trying to get there when you're terminally ill, now you can go and get something, you sign a document that they've been trying to get it for. 42 years, but you know, what we did for the military was an incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers, instead of waiting 3 months to see a doctor, they can go out and heal and take care of themselves and Reed. living and that's why I had the highest approval rating in VA history so all these things we're in a failed nation but it's not going to fail anymore we're going to make it great again thank you former President Trump. president

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