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Apr 15, 2024
Welcome back to Accuracy Inside Out, I know I've been on a bit of a hiatus, I've missed the last two weeks with videos, but it's elk season and every chance I get, I'm out of town elk hunting. A lot of close calls have been a lot of fun so far, so I have three more days until this happens, so I'm leaving tomorrow morning, I'm going to leave town and, yeah, I'm going to live off my back for three days and try to kill a bull . so today i have a cool video about veins. I know there are a million different options, but before I get into that, I want to mention the product website, so insideoutprecision.com, if you go there, you'll find all kinds of t-shirts, hoodies, hats, stickers, mugs. like a lot of different products that you guys can buy they're all really good quality products and they help support the channel which helps us bring you more content so head on over to insideoutprecision.com and get some stuff so at start today's video, We are going to discuss not only different shapes of veins but also different stiffnesses of veins and what are the benefits of them, so we will start with the most common vein out there, you know, this is the blazer vein which produces boning.
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Um, you'll see this as almost all arrows that come from the factory are fletched with a jacket vein. These came out in the early 2000s and are quite short, just over two in length. inches long, but they also have a pretty high profile profile, they are 0.85 inches tall now, when it comes to length and profile, obviously the higher the profile and the longer the vein, the more resistance it will create, so that will help direct that arrow. a little bit better, but there is the hype, you know, if you get a very long vein, very high, they will be very loud and will significantly slow down your arrow, which is why you see them as indoor arrows.
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The big guys indoors shoot, you know, very soft, like four or five inch veins or feathers, because you're shooting at a distance, you don't care, it's a heavy arrow, you want it to stabilize quickly and you don't care about the noise or anything like that. Um, so the veins on the blazer are, I wouldn't say they're a soft material, but they're definitely not a rigid material, they're not the quietest veins in the world, uh, you know, you can hear them during the flight. um and if we can hear them, I guarantee the deer can hear them now, how much does that matter?
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I'm not totally sure, I think when deer jump rope it's usually the bow they hear, not the arrow in the air, um, but it's something to consider so you know that they do this same vein that Easton does either boning and Easton came together on that and this is what's called the bully vein, um, focus on that, yeah, so this is the bully vein, it's the same profile as a jacket, but it's a much stiffer material and They are significantly quieter and in addition to being quieter, that stiffer material really comes into play in keeping your speed in the lower range.
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I'm not saying it'll keep you awake, you know? 14 15 feet per second faster, but when you pass that mark, you know that 40 35 40 50 yards these stiffer material paddles do a much better job of maintaining speed and that's because a softer vein that you know if you look in slow motion levi morgan actually has a A very good video on this, you know, you will see, you will see that the vein bends like this so that again it catches more wind, it slows down the arrow and makes more noise, so the stiffer vein will relieve The reason it doesn't look the same as rigid plastic veins is due to weight, so generally speaking, the softer the material, the lighter the vein, but in recent years, with the innovation of some of these different plastics, they've been able to get a really stiff vein that's still lightweight, you know, no, I don't want a vein that weighs, you know, 18 grains per vein on the back of my arrow, I still want to keep that. back of the arrow as light as I can, um, so Again, that's your you know, the classic blazer vein and then the thug, same profile, almost identical, but my boss is shooting these thug veins and he said that when he got home after fletching, you know, a dozen arrows with him, he was shooting at 50 yards and he was hitting about six inches high at 50. so that's a pretty significant amount of speed that you're picking up there. , probably six and seven feet per second at least, so something to consider, um, so move on to the next vein here, you know. so we're going in shapes and rigidity here uh this is the aae this is the hybrid 26. um super super popular vein let's see if I can focus on that, you know they have the max Stealth series and then the hybrid um the max Stealth and the hybrid 26 are almost identical in profile, but with the maximum sigils or any of the maximum series veins, you have to prime the

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with the primer pencil or they won't stick, all the glue will stick to the arrow, nothing will stick it'll stick to the vein and they'll just fall off on the hybrid series you don't need to prep the vein with that primer pencil so that's pretty cool you'll notice this is a little bit different it's still pretty high profile um not the all.
As tall as the blazer, but because it's not as tall, they elongate the vein, so again it's about creating resistance. The lower the profile of the vein, generally speaking the longer it is, the more vein you need to direct that arrow as well. Really Like these veins, I photographed these veins for a long time, but they are even softer than the jackets. They are a very soft vein. They make some noise and one thing that drove me crazy about them was that it seemed like you knew if we were shooting groups even at 50 to 60 yards away, if you touched the back of this vein with another vein or with a field tip. or whatever, rips the vein, puts a hole in the vein, ruins the vein and then you have to refletch that arrow, so I like them, but they're pretty fragile.
You know it comes in many different shapes and sizes, but this one is definitely the most popular. You know, Cam Haynes, actually, this is one of his streaks that he needs to keep. hammering veins, he shoots these, he really likes them, you know, we do a lot with three feathers, a lot with four feathers, in my opinion, you know, unless you're shooting a very heavy weight with a heavy arrow, three feathers do quite a bit well in terms of directing that arrow and being precise, so if you could make this lighter or, excuse me, stiffer, I think that would be a great vein, but they have quads, they're not as loud as a blazer, but they're still pretty loud so they have the hybrid 23.
Also, it has the same shape, it's literally smaller, so it's 2.3 inches instead of 2.6 inches or something, so it's a little bit smaller and with a profile a a little lower if you are going to shoot with a fixed blade. I have to go with the Fletch because they are lower profile and shorter, you need that extra vein to get the strength and direction you want, so those are the hybrids and now let's move on to my personal favorite vein and one that I think you'll go for. to see much, much more of this is the tac veins tack driver, so Levi Morgan, you know, partnered with them, it's kind of a baby and they spent two and a half years developing a material that was super lightweight and still very stiff and this is definitely the stiffest vein on the market, I mean it almost feels like a piece of hard plastic, but you still know, it's still malleable, it's not, you don't know. it doesn't make any noise or anything it's not like uh it's not rigid but it's very rigid it's very quiet um so this is a 2.75 um.
I steered my thing, it's going to spin mechanically but it still steered my mechanical blade and it sets extremely well. and it's noticeably quieter, like when you shoot, especially at a distance, you can hear those arrows like down, you barely hear this thing coming, you know, it's kind of like a shield cut shape, and obviously levi morgan, you know it's world, how many times the world champion archer like 13 times knows what he's looking for in a vein and again when it comes to that downward velocity, whether you're shooting 3D or hunting, you know if I want to believe that I'm going to be I might have time to organize every animal that walks and maybe even if I do it, we have a ranger when he is 45 years old and then he takes five or six steps following a cow or something and I think he is 45 years old, but he is actually 48. than those A few extra feet per second will allow you to get away with more, the arrow will fall less in those three or four extra meters, which in hunting can be the difference between a lethal hit and a long night of tracking. and in 3D, it could be the difference between catching the scoring ring or shooting an eight, so being able to maintain that speed in the lower range is really important and then they are much quieter and this again, it all comes down to stamina, You know, it's softer.
The vein will bend more when you shoot it and that will create noise and slow down the arrow a lot more, so if you look at tax veins, they come in a lot of different shapes and sizes, this is definitely the most popular, uh, in my, arrows. that I'm shooting on my pse, they're from the same line, but it's the two inch version, um, and I shot them down in the total archery challenge and they were amazing. I shot turn to toe and they were great um another thing I've noticed is that you're shooting at an old target that you know and you shoot and like here's the target, if your veins get buried in it, these don't retain memory as bad as they will not. all wrinkled, um, you can actually take them like a hair dryer or hold them like they're steaming, like boiling water in steam, and they'll come back to life, um, which the aaes are really bad about.
I've noticed that if they know they come by and they sit there for two minutes while you're scoring, when you take them out, there's a horrible wave in front, you pretty much just put that arrow in the back of your quiver and don't shoot it anymore, so I hope this gives you a little bit of information on the different shapes and sizes that you know if you're just shooting field points. The short, low profile veins are great if you are shooting broadheads that you want. Short but high profile or a little bit lower profile but longer because you need that drag to steer it and then I think you'll see a lot more people switching to these stiffer veins like the bullies and the studs, um, these are definitely.
The two stiffest ones I've found, the tacs, are definitely even stiffer than these thugs and I think if you're a fan of the jacket shape and have always been shot well, I think the tac makes a vein in this very similar to this profile so if you get on like Lancaster Archery they have a great selection of them there they have them all and you can look and see what you need now I will say with the tactical streak you have to prepare them like the max series um because of that material they are made of you have to use your primer pen, I didn't use the aae and it worked fine, you don't have to buy the adhesive glue and primer pen but if you don't own anything you can also get the adhesive glue and primer pen tac primer because they were designed for this vein, but anyway I hope it gives you a little idea of ​​what you might be needing.
Whether it's arrow hunting or target arrows, I know there's a lot of people right now, either starting to sit in the stands for whitetail hunting or elk hunting, or you know, the season is starting, some are ending, so good luck to all of you, hunting. It's hard to stay safe and remember that accuracy is a decision.

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