Ty Norris Explains His Role in 2013 NASCAR Scandal

Now mwr, obviously, we are the great conspiracy of the contras, what is that called? Well, when you think about the situation in Richmond, which, yeah, the orders from Richmond and the team and stuff that ultimately led to your suspension, yeah, I'm curious. Ultimately, to know if you felt the suspension was fair, but what I want to know is do you know your perspective, your point of view before that, so I'm actually glad you brought that up. I have avoided talking about it. It was too much, but there were three or four things going on at the same time that seemed connected that weren't connected and if they were connected it would have been a lot cleaner and I would say the same thing I said to Mike Helton. and those guys, when I sat in the middle, told me to tell me what happened in Richmond.

I say where, because you will have to talk to each different group, because if you listen to the radio and see what happened. It wasn't like we all had this all planned out, so I'll tell you exactly what I did. What I did was get to know the situation before the race, look at the points and see how everyone was moving maneuvering and I saw things that were happening with one particular company that I thought was really strange and I mean, I thought there was a driver in the Hendrick group who acted like they had been flying all day and ran out of throttle at the finish line. that's weird and then you start to see all the things and then you see who's up there in the spotter spot and tapping on this guy and you see you know there's all the big guys all sitting there and like they're trying to like. resolve to maneuver everything and you see it's all year so I'm sitting there and the caution came out with many laps left and I'm spotting Brian Vickers now I have channel two

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mrn channel one and a I'm listening to digital radio I have all These voices in my head and I'm and everyone's like, "Oh, you're rolling on the 15th." I couldn't access it if I wanted to, so I'm sitting there, this is what happened the caution comes out, we're sitting there, the leaders come down to pit road, there's like six and seven laps to go and I'm like if we were one lap down and we catch the wave with Ryan Vickers, so just as they're coming around the corner, we catch the wave with Brian and I see Logano is in front of us and then as soon as I see him coming I look at the scoreboard and says Jeff Gordon in for one point, Logano out for one point.

And I'm like, well, I need Legano to have had two wins and if his two wins drop to 11th place, he makes the playoffs and Truex is eliminated, so I think it's a one point difference and I think, well, how? The 22nd is in front of us but behind us in the summary and it all happened while we were waving and I looked at the scoreboard and saw what was happening. I thought, oh, he was two laps down coming up to one down Logano. He was and we were two to one. I think we need to get that lap back and then I think because I don't know who he's racing.

I don't have time to go. I wonder who he's competing with this round. I don't have time, so we were going into turn one to reach the back of the field. I'm like Brian, I need you to pit. He's like yeah, I'm like, I need you to pit. I need your boxes right now. He said: "At this point I don't understand well, the leaders are now going into turn three, you know how late the green falls in the middle of three and four, and I'm like green flag, green flag, but I need you to come in in the pits and He says I don't understand, I have a tire going, what's going on and I was like I need you to pit right now to get a point and when I said that it was like the SWAT team was pointing, all the lasers red were all mine. throat, my heart, my brain and there was brain matter everywhere, yeah, and then he was like, oh, okay, then he comes down and it's a mess, and after the race I was like, holy shit , we made it. and then another owner came up to me and said, hey, you know, that just worked, didn't it work very well? they were doing everything that was going on up there, all maneuvering around that same damn point and I knew he said it on the radio and I knew it was bad news so I hated that not everyone got in trouble yeah just you guys but me.

I got butchered, I got filleted, I got, I watch TV, I'm like he's the only guy in the world that ever made me mad and, but, but, but, Michael and Rob came to me and said, Shut up! Shut up and let it go and it was hard for me because there was a lot of it and it was personal attacks and it was, I mean, it was professional attacks and personal attacks and I was watching Ryan McGee doing Marty Smith sitting down. there like Ty Norris would never work in this garage again, he would never be in this garage again and I thought you didn't have a fucking clue what was going on and I thought when some of the other tapes came out, I was like, I see that everyone is going to get in trouble.

I was the only one, so I'm going to tell you this. I clapped as angry as I was and I'm still angry about it, because a company, Nascar, had to do something, it was out of control. and I'm people that I see people during the season pay with tires to get a guy off the race track because their guy had trouble going to the pits, pit pit pit, now I'll give you, you know, I'll give you tires and like If there was so much conversation about what they could do for each other, it had to end up as angry as I was because he was the poster boy, you know, it had to end.

I was angrier that they gave Jeff the spot like they literally made a spot for a guy, yeah yeah, I thought what the hell are we doing? This is not the way to clean this up, it's like making this whole problem worse, yeah, it's definitely like they do. I didn't know what to do right, so I knew they were going to be tough on me and I knew the others weren't going to go easy on them because they need drivers, they need teams and they don't. I really need guys like me, so I never felt the coldness of the whole industry like I did and I wanted to, I never wanted to walk in that garage because I never want to be around it again.

I became very bitter and thought. I'll just go work in another sport, I'll go, I'll go dig a ditch, I'll go, I'll be a sports journalist, I don't give what I do, but I will never do it and because I wanted, I wanted to get out and I just had my back to my point, they were mean to me . I'm going to be meaner to you, I bet you have me, you have me, I wait for what I come out and finally I have it. I concentrated and just said: Have you become this with respect? Yes, treat him with respect.

I made a mistake. Get up. Yes. I said it out loud. Take it and take it in the jaw and keep moving and there's a lot of them. people in

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