Tucker Carlson on US-Russia After Putin Interview | Ukraine War | World Government Summit

So I was totally determined, monom maniacally dedicated to doing this

interview

, not simply because I want to know what Vladimir Putin is like and what he thinks about a war that is restarting the

world

and really seriously damaging my country's economy, but also because I was told. I couldn't through illegitimate means um and without a clearly stated justification and I thought that can't be tolerated. I don't want to live in a free country. I was born in one and I can do anything. little thing I can do to keep um, you know the society I love you in, you're known for being pro-republican party, the right wing of the republican party, this is what they claimed, they said first you were a democrat and then you became in republican, okay?

You are known to be pro-Trump and anti-Biden. What is true in this and you went to Putin because you are pro Trump and anti-Biden. I mean, my opinions aren't very interesting. I'm not sure how I would characterize you. They are changing as fast as the

world

itself is changing and I, on principle, believe that you know that your views must change when the evidence changes and the assumptions you had in the past are proven wrong, that has happened to me. . Virtually every month of my life, if you pay enough attention, you can rate your own performance just like if you were betting on sports, you know I lost that one and when you do it, it turns out that the things you thought were true were lies.

You should admit it, so what are my views? I'm not sure if I'm telling the truth, it's my main point of view and I plan to do the best I can, so Trump played no role in this, obviously there is an election in my country. will come to fruition in November. I have no idea what's going to happen. I think the current administration is obviously incompetent and the president is seen. That's not an attack. Everybody knows. Now it has been confirmed. I would say this week. in the report that everyone is familiar with, but um and that's very sad, but it had nothing to do with the

interview

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I wanted to interview Putin because he is the leader of a country that the US

government

is at war with. although not declaredly, sir, you know your president President Biden well, you have been working in various media organizations, from PBS CNBC M MMS MBC Fox News CNN and you have been covering this field well and you know American politicians and now You have been following Putin and you did a very extensive interview with this gentleman and I am sure that to interview them you did your homework and did your research comparing the culture, the competition between Vladimir Putin and Biden, how do you see the two men now running? the world, I mean, if this were boxing, the fight would be called by the doctor, so I say that as an American and I have no other passport, I don't plan to ever leave my country, my family has been there. hundreds of years and I love it.

I am a patriotic American and it saddens me when I see that the president is not a compass and that in my country it is considered very rude to say that and you wonder how it got to a place where you have an incompetent president who has lowered not only the level of life but also life expectancy and no one feels free to say that that is not a political observation, it is a statement of fact that can be demonstrated empirically and the most radical thing I would say For me, in the eight days I spent in Moscow there was no there was just the leader of the country, who of course is impressive, it's the largest landmass in the world and it's tremendously diverse linguistically, culturally and religiously, it's difficult to govern a country like that for 24 years.

Whether you like it or not, then an incapable person could not do that, he is very capable and many of you know him and know that what radicalized me was very shocking and very disturbing for me was the city of Moscow where the largest city in Europe had never been. , 13 million people and it is much more beautiful than any city in my country. I had no idea that my father spent a lot of time there in the '80s when he worked for the US

government

and barely had electricity and now it is much cleaner, safer and more aesthetically pleasing, its architecture, its food, your service, than any rural town in the United States, and this is not ideological, how did that happen?, how did that happen?, and at a certain point, I don't think the average person cares as much about abstractions as they do about the concrete reality of your life and if you can't use the subway, for example, like many people are afraid in New York City because it's too dangerous, you have to ask yourself if it isn't.

That's the ultimate measure of leadership and that's true because of how radical it is for an American to go to Moscow. I didn't know that I learned this week about Singapore, Tokyo, Dubai and Abu Dhabi, because these cities, no matter how they tell me they are run and based on the principles they do, are wonderful places to live that don't have rampant inflation. , they are not going to rape you, sir, and excuse me, what is that? Excuse me, are you an anti-American model? Not me. I'm the most pro-American, so I'm 54 years old. I was born in 1969.

I grew up in a country that had cities like Moscow, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Singapore and Tokyo, and we don't have them anymore, and what I have discovered is that it is a voluntary choice as inflation is, as you heard in that fascinating Last panel, inflation is the product of decisions made mainly by the Central Bank, not exclusively, but by policy makers. don't smoke marijuana on The Breakfast Table why because I won't allow them it's very simple it's a short conversation no and you can govern your country the same way we're not going to tolerate that so don't do it and people understand that dirty graffiti Paris, one of my favorite cities, New York, one of my favorite cities, they're dirty and part of the reason they're dirty is because people spray paint obscenities on buildings and no one cleans them up, which encourages more people to Let's do the same thing and our policymakers, for some reason, don't realize that London, another of my favorite cities, sees English girls asking for drugs on the sidewalks and I thought: "If I'm Boris Johnson, who ran that briefly and very badly ". country, I would ask myself: wait a second, my compatriots are asking for drugs on the streets, maybe I should do something about it, but no, he will appear and give a speech about Ukraine and how we should send more cluster bombs to the brave Ukrainians, what are they doing?

They mentioned Ukraine when speaking to this gentleman, President Putin, for this long interview. My question is: did you have coffee with him? Did you have any off-the-record conversations before the interview afterwards? Did they feel during the interview or? before or after that, this man can make or is willing to make a historic commitment number one on the status of the world with the most used and number two on Ukraine, is he a committer, yes or no, of course, right ? I am referring to the leaders of all countries. On the planet, except perhaps the United States, during the unipolar period, they are forced by the nature of their jobs to compromise.

Compromise is part of what diplomacy is and he is among those whose position is clearly hardening. Russia has been rejected by the West. I mean Vladimir. Putin this is not I'm not criticizing Putin I'm an American I'm not going to live in Russia I don't love Vladimir Putin I'm stating the facts and he asked Bill Clinton to join NATO. tried to make a deal on missiles, he mentioned this in the interview, that's correct and he mentioned it in other forums as well and NATO said no, we don't want them now if NATO's point not if NATO's point originally, for Of course, the post The goal of the NATO war was to prevent the Russians and Soviets from entering Western Europe, it was a bullfight against the Russians, so if the Russians asked to join the alliance, that would suggest that they You have solved the problem and you can move on to do something. constructive with your life, but we refuse, so I mean just meditate on it, go to the sauna for an hour and think about what that means before you sit in the SAA one question one question now final conclusion Do you think Vladimir Putin is eager for a compromise a compromise like Yalta Sabo uh the Ottoman Empire breaks agreements any international agreement to share power and influence in the world with the West if there is someone who is willing and Biden manages things first Putin wants to get out of this war, he We will not be more open to negotiation the longer this goes on.

One of the things we have learned over the course of the last two years is that Russia's industrial capacity is much deeper than we thought. I mean Russia has a Russia. This country was assured that it was a gas station with nuclear weapons. It finds it quite easy to make missiles, rockets and artillery shells, while NATO does not, so we should think about what that means one, two. The West does not spend time on our politics. Those responsible in Washington do not spend time thinking about what achievable objectives are here. I've personally heard U.S. government officials say, well, we're just going to have to give Crimea back to Ukraine.

Well, you don't have to be a Russia scholar, so that's not going to happen unless a nuclear war comes, that's actually crazy, so even saying something like that reveals that you're a child, that you don't understand. the area at all and that you have no real idea of ​​what is possible, and while our leaders and not just in the United States but in NATO and I really mean Germany. I don't like taking the time to learn about what's possible, as if we're not going to get anywhere. You think there is a big gap between the depth of understanding of philosophy and history. between Biden and Putin you see Putin, who has studied history and who is very deep in history and it seems that he has given you a 30 minute lecture on the history of Ukraine and its relationship with the mother, Russia, does Biden understand the law of action and reaction that moves a country like Russia I I cannot exaggerate how incapacitated Joe Biden is, it is not an attack that is a fact and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying so these are not decisions that Joe Biden is making but there are people capable The people around Biden and I know them what they lack is any perspective, so a conversation with an American policymaker about the history of the region would begin and end with a conversation about, of course, Chamberlain, Churchill and the Hitler period, so American politics.

The creator's historical template is tiny, in fact there's only one and it's a two-year period in the late 1930s and it's all based on that understanding of history and human nature and that's crazy, so that, in fact, American policymakers have convinced themselves that Vladimir Putin is going to take over Poland and it is a defense of Putin. I don't want to defend Putin. I am not a fan of Putin and I am not a subject of Putin. I am American, however there is no evidence that Putin has any interest. by expanding his borders, he is the largest country in the world and it is very difficult to manage, they do not need natural resources, there is nothing in Poland that he wants, he will gain nothing by taking Poland, apart from more problems, that is, if you say he's going to invade Poland, you don't know what you're talking about here, it's a point in the interview where you asked him if you're ready to invade Poland, if you're an expansionist power, expansion, yes, in, in, Poland, he. he said only if Poland launched a war, of course, against Russia.

Okay, Ukraine didn't launch a war against Russia and invade Ukraine. Why didn't you answer this question? I started with that question actually, but he invited me to 35 Minutes of Katherine. the Great is fine and the Roose, uh, but no, the central question is why did he move his forces to eastern Ukraine and I saw this from a vantage point in the United States and I saw the vice president of the United States, KLA Harris, go to Munich. security conference a few days before that in February 2022 and to say publicly in a press conference to Zalinsky, the president of Ukraine, we want you to join NATO, which is another way of saying that it is synonymous with that we plan put nuclear weapons on Russia.

Do you think they have baited him? Are you kidding? Of course they did it with everyone and that just tells you how constipated and restricted and censored the US media landscape is. That I was the only one who said that, well, wait a second, the purpose of the diplomacy is. to reach a peaceful and mutually beneficial conclusion to a crisis, so if you voluntarily show up at the Munich security conference and say "hey Zinski, why don't you let us put nuclear weapons on Russia's border?", you are sailing towards a war because you know that's the red line because Putin has said that and any close observer of the area already knows that.

Do you have an explanation? A reasonable explanation for why there is this anti-war and these very negative comments about this interview from many of your colleagues. and many politicians in the world, one of the ways I think I'm different is that I don't like the Internet and I haven't seen any reaction and I imagine you know I'm not the most popular person among my colleagues in the United States. I wouldn't have dinner with them anyway, so it's not abig loss, but you know, I can't imagine what his motives would be. I didn't go to Russia, of course, to promote.

Vladimir Putin and if that were my purpose, I would say it because I am not ashamed. I went because I felt like most of the Americans in whose name all of this is being done don't really know what's going on and they don't know anything about the guy they're supposedly at war with coming in unofficially and I just felt like my job, yes I have a job. in this world, it's giving information to people so they can decide and that's why I wanted to do the longest possible interview with Vladimir Putin that contained as much of Vladimir Putin talking, not about me, grandiose about what I'm a great person when An American journalist interviews someone like Vladimir Putin, the point of the interview is to say: I am a good person and you are not, and that interview was directed at his colleagues in the newsrooms of the United States.

I am a good person, why are you such a bad person? You are committing genocide. Okay, that's not fruitful and that's certainly not my role. I care about what God thinks about me, what my wife thinks about me, and what my four kids think about me, and that's it. all that matters to me, so I don't need to prove that I'm a good person. I want to hear Vladimir Putin speak so that people in my country can evaluate what is happening. He uses the devil's advocate, but he advocates from afar, yeah, okay, I'll tell you. You should defy the rules of an interview and you are a master at your business.

It's not my place to lecture you on that, but you should challenge some ideas, for example. You didn't speak. about freedom of speech in Russia you did not talk about navali about the murders about restrictions on the opposition in the upcoming elections. I didn't talk about the things that every other American media talks about exclusively because they are covered and because I have spent my life talking to people who run countries in various countries and I have come to the following conclusion: every leader kills people, including my leader, every leader kills people, some kill more than others, leadership requires killing people, I'm sorry, that's why I wouldn't want to be a leader.

Um, that press restriction is universal in the United States. I know it because I have lived it. You know, I asked my ex. Know. I have had many jobs. And I've done this for 34 years and I know how. It works and um there's more censorship in Russia than in the United States, but there's a lot of it in the United States, so you know at a certain point it's like people can decide if they think you know which countries they think are better. What systems do you think are better? I just want to know what he thinks, that was the point.

Yes, I was very surprised by an inappropriate comment. I don't think it contains anything that can be called JS or Nies de uh. Mrs. Clinton when she mentioned a phrase about you I don't want to repeat it oh you're not going to hurt my feelings don't worry well gentleman she called this gentleman, this honorable gentleman, who is playing the role of a you see I didn't see him no Did you see that she is a girl? I don't listen to her. How is Libya? see the interview which has nothing to do with this, I was trying to get a testimony about the world as Putin sees it and this is exactly what we need to know how this man thinks, you either consider him an enemy or you consider him. he, uh, a friend or you consider him a dictator, but you should understand how the man thinks now, you put it better than me, that's it, just describe my motive right there, okay sir, now, now, the question is whether this is the i.e. as they say in the United States and this is the power of the media and the way the media is becoming very biased in a deep state like the United States, where are we going in the model of democracy in the world media?

Information in a free country is a counterweight against entrenched power and not just government power but economic power. If it were constitutionally in my country, it is designed to serve as a counterweight to that, so if the sources of information, the media align. with entrenched power then you have a powerless population and it's totalitarian and that's very quickly the direction that America is heading and I think technology encourages this progression and machine learning especially so it's a dangerous time if you know Supposedly we are a democracy and a prerequisite for democracy is information so that the electrician can make a decision and decide who to elect, so if you don't have access to information you don't have democracy and we are in this kind of strange spiral in which our leaders lecture us more and more about democracy and how sacred it is, even as they suffocate it, suffocate it to death, and that's why I think that the people who provide information and who bring the facts to the public have a fundamental role to play and at this time it is difficult.

I'm not facing anything great. It is not my intention to present myself as a hero. I'm certainly not a hero at all. But I think it's increasingly difficult to do that and that means we have a greater obligation to do it sir, do you have an explanation up to this point since the events in Gaza occurred until now no one has come out and said how the hell the United States of America is vetoing the ceasefire, how would a country veto not to continue? War H how is anyone against stopping a war, the United States is right now the most powerful country in the history of the world, so if you frame this in terms that we're all familiar with, what are the most basic terms, the terms. of the family America would be dad would be the father and the sacred obligation of the father is to protect his family and restore peace within its walls so if I come I have four children if I come back from work and two of my children are fighting what Is it the first thing I do before I even evaluate why they are fighting, before I gather the facts and know what is going on?

I start fighting, I stop fighting, yeah, so if I come home and I have two kids fighting and I tell them, go win. What the hell am I evil because I violated the most basic duty of fatherhood which is to bring peace because I have the power, I am the only one who can bring peace and therefore if you see a nation with incredible power, AB bet on war. by itself you have a leadership that has no moral authority that is illegitimate and I mean that too and I and I don't, I'm not even referring to any specific region or conflict, I mean in general, and I am deeply offended by that. um and and it's something that I try to express and many times they call me a traitor for saying it's the opposite I say I say that because I believe in the United States I think it's a moral it has been a morally superior country and if we allow our leaders to use our power to spread destruction for its own sake, that's shameful, it's a binary, okay, it's black and white, it's a zero and a one, you're either creating or you're destroying, you're getting better. or you are degrading and so you know if something is good or bad if it is virtuous or bad if you only judge fruits by their fruits you will know uh and I and I are very distressed and worried that we are entering an era in which this amazing Force to good is being used for evil two quick questions because I ran out of time the first question is now in the US elections we have chances of it being Biden and Trump or Biden and someone else, not Trump or not Biden and not Trump and the Circumstances or fate bring us two different people who represent Republicans or Democrats.

What do you think? Where are we going to go next November 19? Who will run the program? Honestly, I don't have the slightest idea, but I think. there is volatility ahead in our political sphere I mean clearly there is because I like when you said I have no idea you have the courage to say you don't know you were telling me this morning what of the things that you really like here um our president Sheikh Muhammad bin Z God bless him uh when you ask him a question, if he doesn't have an answer, he tells me that actually I don't know the answer to this question I have never in my life heard a leader of anything, be it a country, a company or a football team, interview people.

I never heard any of them say, "You know, no, no." I know the answer is very complicated I have not discovered it I have never heard anyone say that and for me that is the pure sign of wisdom because wisdom grows from humility wisdom grows from the recognition that you are not God and in the United States United we had a period where we had this debate about some good religions and some bad ones. I will tell you my point of view on this and it is a hardened vision, it is a sincere vision. I do not divide the world between Muslims.

Jewish and Christian or Buddhist. I divide the world between people who believe they are God and people who know they are not and the only people I trust are in the second category because that is the beginning of wisdom when you know you are not God. that you can't affect every change you want you can't foresee the future that you are not omnipotent then you are much more likely to make good decisions wise human decisions in contrast when you believe you have the power to shape the world and other people as we were hearing this morning through biohacking, um, when you believe that you can create a better human being through technology, you are very dangerous because you don't understand your own limits, you will kill a lot of people, uh, when when you have those false beliefs in my opinion through this note Mr.

Carlson, thank you very much for giving us this opportunity to come for the first time after your great interview to speak to the world through this podium and to this country and to my humble son, thank you. you sir thank you for inviting me