The Chilling Greyhound Bus Case - Justice Served? | Mystery&Makeup GRWM Bailey Sarian

I'll try to get on the bus and see if Tim is there." I'm still alive, can I help him? Maybe I can do something, so Bernie decides to get on the bus and asks Vince to stop. He asks him why, for example, why what are you doing this?, but Vince just responded with "date, emergency" and "date", as he continues to stab Tim Now Bernie would say he's on this bus and he's yelling at Vince to stop all the time. he was yelling at Vince to stop he had this crazy look in his eyes and he was looking at Bernie like he would kill you and Bernie was like oh no, and Bernie said he didn't actually look at him at the time because you know when you see something maybe is wrong happening there and if you just don't look at it and it's not real or you try not to look at it because you just don't want to acknowledge it so you're not looking at it anyway, what he was saying is that he didn't like looking at it yet because he just doesn't. he wanted to lose control and then Bernie says he finally just looks at Tammany and sees Tim's body and like Finn's is cutting deep into Tim's body and just taking out pieces of his flesh and then Bernie.

He realized that Vince was cutting deep into Tim's neck and was decapitating Tim. I think at that moment you know that Bernie got off the bus because he realized that there really was nothing they could do at that moment to save Tim. Unfortunately he was dead, so Bernie got out. the bus and blocked the door again. Bernie then suggested to the bus driver that it would be best to cut the power to the bus so that Vince couldn't start the bus and drive away, so Bernie activated the emergency immobilizer system which makes the bus inoperable so it can't get back on. take off at this point, they're still waiting for their authorities to show up, so they see Vince inside the bus and they see him walking and he's going to the front of the bus and he's trying to start the bus so he can take off and then once Vince realizes He realizes he's a little stuck, he starts to get really agitated, he's getting really frustrated, so Vince likes the door of the bus and he's trying to stab it. and he pushes his way through the door and he's everyone, well, not everyone, but like the bus driver and Kris, the truck driver, they're all trying to make sure that Vince doesn't walk out this door, like this which at this point Vince accepts the fact that he's trapped inside this bus, so they see him giving up on the door idea and just going back to what he was doing, so he went back and continued stabbing and mutilating the bus.

Tim's body finally at 9 p.m. The emergency officers arrived at Sene's carpel, tried to talk to Vince from outside the bus and he begged him to drop the knife so he could go outside and throw the knife out the small window of the bus and then they ended up bringing in special personnel. negotiators and a heavily armed tactical unit are trying to negotiate with Vince they are trying to get him to turn himself in said Vince says his answers were very chaotic they didn't make any sense all they did Vince said out loud, "I'm staying on this bus to always", which is fine, so again all the passengers and stuff are standing on the side of the road and you can see inside the bus, they could see what it was doing. and then they're just watching Vince there doing weird things, they could see him mutilating Tim's body with a pair of scissors on a book cutter.

Vince would like to remove certain body parts and organs from Tim's body again. They're looking, they could see, I think just. Vince wanted to put on a show or something, I don't know, man, but Vince pulls out a body part and then he smells it, everyone watches him smell it and then he puts it in his mouth and starts eating it. He had also reported that Vince was like licking blood from his hands and arms and then walking up and down the aisle of the bus as if he was carrying various organs and body parts and was like showing them to witnesses before throwing them in the trash. . bags like the little, you know, chop garbage bags.

Vince then decides to lift Tim's head and carries it around for everyone to see. Many of the witnesses said that it is one of those things that is horrible, right, but it is also not possible? he stops watching around 9:30 or 10:00 p.m. The stranded passengers were eventually picked up and transported to be interviewed at the Brandon RCMP detachment, which I believe means Department. You know, I do a lot of research for these stories, but I always forget to study the little things I don't know like the RCMP. What should I have searched on Google? The passengers are taken to be questioned and listen to all their stories and all that trying to understand the situation and what happened on July 31, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. m.

This was hours after the initial attack. Vince smashed one of the rear windows of the bus open and threw out some belongings along with the knife and scissors. He was using Vince and then he decided to jump out the window and he wasn't necessarily going to turn himself in, he was going to try to run away. Great plan Vince, but that didn't work, he jumps out the windows and then that's when Vince tries to resist arrest, he's trying to escape and of course, like the police used his little Taser and they got the situation under control, the police were able to.

They get on the bus and they see a horrible scene, they see that there are garbage bags everywhere and inside these garbage bags there were like parts of Tim's body, what he was doing with them, oh, don't talk and put on mascara, so They go up to Tim's body and they see that his ear, his nose, his tongue, they were all missing from Tim's face, so they're like where they look in the bins and they find in his pockets where Tim's ears were, his nose and his tongue, they don't know what he was going to do with it and then unfortunately Tim's eyes and part of his heart were never found or recovered and Vince supposedly ate them, so at 10 a.m. the Greyhound representatives took other passengers to Walmart, I think it was like a In a small store I saw both, but they took some of the passengers to the store to replace the clothes they were wearing because they had blood on their shirts and all that they left them They brought him some items to replace the bloody clothes and then sent the passengers on another bus to return to Winnipeg so they could return home.

Vince's trial was on March 3, 2009. Vince pleaded not criminally responsible, now this means that he is not criminally responsible, so this means that he accepted the crime that occurred. Like, that should happen, but mentally I wasn't completely there, so technically it wasn't me, so Vince kept saying that he got on the bus and sat in the front and then there were voices in his head that were telling him he was in danger. Vince said he sat next to Tim Tim smiled at him and asked him how he was doing and Vince said he heard God's voice telling him that he had to kill Tim or he would die immediately.

This is the part that makes a lot of people angry, I mean, it makes me angry too, so Vince was charged with second degree murder, but he ended up being found not criminally responsible because he was diagnosed with schizophrenia and didn't take his meds, so what was required of Vince. He was admitted to a psychiatric hospital, received the help he needed and then, after a few years, he ended up being discharged completely and this caused a lot of debate for obvious reasons. I mean some people, like 90% of people, believe that Vince should have been held responsible for the murder because of his brutality and then others believe that he should be forgiven because of his mental illness as quickly as my personal opinion, we talk about another

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in Canada, remember what that girl's name was and she drew a blank row and since she was young she was 12 years old and they arrested her and let her go where I fully support the idea that if you suffer from a mental illness and you commit a crime, yes , I like the idea that you get help instead of just being locked up and throwing the keys away, like here in America, they just lock you up forever and then you're in the system forever because you can never get out of the mess and in Canada It seems like they are always trying to help people, they are not just trying to lock them up forever, they are actually trying to help people.

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s, like this one, it's not like he got stabbed once and it was Not that stabbing him once would be better, but he took this guy's head off and it was like carrying it like you know, no, it should be case by case. I don't really understand why yes, mm-hmm, no. and then in February 2016, Vince ended up legally changing his name to Will Baker and left their group home and lives independently. People who work closely with Vince say he feels great remorse and will be fine as long as he is getting the help he needs and there wasn't just one victim, every passenger on that bus has suffered in some way, sadly this horrific murder took its toll. lasting effects in those who witnessed one of the passengers giving birth to a couple.

Years later, she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder resulting from witnessing the attack, this affected her ability to raise her son, who had been taken from her and placed in foster care for 18 months before being returned to her. . Another one, the truck driver, Chris, he's the one who tried it. to stop and help, he also came forward and said that he was struggling with PTSD from what he witnessed, he says that he became an alcoholic after the event because he couldn't sleep at night because of all the nightmares. There was another witness who actually tried to file a lawsuit. against Greyhound, the police and Vince and then he was removed but continues to say that it is unfair because the officials were very lenient with the fence and his mental illness trying to help Vince get better but no one has offered help for people suffering from PTSD and suffer daily where is your help? and that's why Vince shouldn't be out because where is his help? get them help.

The list goes on. Almost every passenger on that bus has suffered from PTSD in some way, whether they were able to get help or not. Greyhound has never offered them any kind of help, the only kind of help they offered was compensation, refund of clothing or any items that might have been stained with blood, but other than that, that was it, so on the 21st December 2008, there were five. Months after the murder, Tim's girlfriend Colleen remembers that Colleen was pregnant with Tim's child and ends up giving birth, unfortunately there was a complicated custody battle between Tim and Colleen's family and it began in 2009.

I'm not unsure exactly what the case was and why she felt she was unfit, but anyway, and in 2016, Tim's mother and her husband were granted full guardianship of Tim's son, according to Global News. Vince was recently in a secondary training program hoping to enter the professional fields, so that's the tragic story of Tim McLean. he was just able to walk free, the thoughts can have nonsense is that he wasn't getting help and he needs help and he should get it in prison, but he needs to be in prison and he needs to be held accountable for what he did, he took a life, whether you were there mentally or no, you still did it, he still did it and it's really unfortunate because all the victims on that bus, Tim's family, are carrying this heavy thing that happened to them and they know that the person responsible for this is out.

They live in his life they changed his name trying to get a career. I'm not sure in Canada how the law works. Can someone be retried for a case? It's something that can happen. I'm not sure, but if it's possible, I really hope so. Justice can happen for Tim's family and for all victims affected. I'd love to hear what the guys below think. Do you think Vince should be in prison? But if not, I'd love to hear that too. I guess so. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. I hope you have a wonderful day.

Be safe. Well, rest in peace. Tim McClain and I really hope that his family and all the victims can get some kind of peace and healing. I know who you'd like me to talk about next week, but other than that, I hope you have a wonderful day today, make good decisions, and I'll see you later.