Sue Black Catches Paedophiles by Looking at the Marks on Their Hands

I feel like a bit of a fraud because I was the person sitting in the front row, I didn't have a device connected, I hadn't been taught anything online, I didn't have any knowledge of social media, so I'm the archetypal Luddite and what I'm here for is What to do is seek help and not help for myself but help for those we work with I am a scientist but I am not an ivory tower scientist I don't philosophize much I am not very bright but I work in an area where most people don't want to work and that makes me a social pariah in terms of the field I operate in, but we operate in some really difficult and challenging situations.

I am a human anatomist, which means that in a day job I dissect dead humans and teach about the human body and my other job as a forensic anthropologist is to help identify those who have died, but also help identify those who are in living conditions where justice requires us to attend, so it is not going to be a terribly easy presentation and for that I apologize, but it is an extremely important topic and something that I believe each of us has a social responsibility for. trying to understand if I can share with you the case that started all of this. for me, and it was in 2006, now normally the type of cases that I'm involved in in my area of ​​expertise is human dismemberment, so if you go home and decide that you want to cut up your husband or your wife or whoever in several pieces, I am the person who will come and we will identify what it was that you did when you did it and what instrument you used to do it, but I also work a lot on the identification of the child and I think that is why I got this case from the Metropolitan Police in 2006 a young teenager believed that well what she did was a young teenager confirmed that throughout the night her father came into her room and he interfered with her while she was sleeping she told her mother and her mother did not believe her, so she What the most incredibly brave young woman did was turn on her Skype camera and left it on all night and I'm sure you know this better than I do.

If you leave your Skype camera on, it goes into near infrared mode and the interesting thing about near infrared mode is that you can identify the superficial vein patterns associated with human anatomy because the infrared light definitely interacts with the deoxygenated blood inside the blood vessels. So when you look at the human body through near infrared, the veins stand up like

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tram lines, so what we were able to do was trace the venous pattern associated with the father and the venous pattern associated with the offender, and there There were differences between them, so we went to court.

Now, the court, as you have heard, is a very restricted area and this was the first time identification evidence in this format was presented in court, so what does the judge do? Do you have something to say? He tells the jury to go away and have a cup of tea. We have to decide if this is science or witchcraft and we have to decide if we are going to admit it. Allowing it in our courtroom and the reason they allowed it in the courtroom was because we were atomists and since the 1500s and Vesalius and before we knew the extent of human variation, we have exploited it more recently in terms of our biometric industries, but we have known it as Natomas for a long time, so for the first time in the UK we are allowed to present evidence on superficial venous patterns as a means of identifying or attempting to identify a perpetrator and suspect of child sexual abuse the jury came back and found the father and not guilty I have to ask at half past four who else was in his house at the time who had a superficial venous pattern that matched that of the offender and we asked the court why We were devastated.

We asked the court what happened. What did we do wrong? Do you think they just didn't understand the science? And what came out of the courtroom was the most disturbing thing I've ever heard in my life. they probably agreed with the science, I suspect they just didn't believe the girl because she didn't cry enough, she wasn't upset enough, so where is the injustice when at the end of the day science is based on good solid base? We can't persuade our public, we can't persuade our jury to allow us to protect our children, so what we did was we realized that this was clearly an area that required a lot of research and we set out to compile the databases. , do the research, write the report. papers all the things that academics have to do for the court to decide that you are not witchcraft and to give you an idea of ​​what they look like these are my

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and if you look at the one on the top right then those dotted blue lines are My superficial vein patterns on the back of my right hand and the cladogram on the right allow me to see the variation within it and we have not been able to find two

hands

that have the same superficial vein pattern if you doubt me, thank you. for bringing your own chemistry and biology experiment you have two of them take a look look at the back of your right hand I guarantee the vein pattern is different from the one on your left if your hands are fat look inside your wrists and you will see the veins there , they are different between your right and left hands, they are different in identical twins, they are different in any two individuals when you take it according to all other characteristics, so the little blue ovals are all my freckles, so I have a redhead gene, which means I have freckles in the wazoo and the pattern of them is independent, so they are totally unique to you, whether it's freckles, your Nev eye, your birth

marks

or your moles or the fact that You're a little older and your liver spots will be different in any two.

The little white squares are my scars. I'm not a very careful anatomist, so when you give me a sharp scalpel, that's where the scars end, but it certainly tells you something about my occupation and if you look at the folds of skin on the knuckles of each finger, the pattern of the Skin is different on each finger of both hands and was formed when you were a fetus. inside your mother and they haven't changed since. What you can also see when you look at the infrared on the bottom right, what the freckle effect looks like, it's not pretty, but you can see how much human information there is. there so that we can wear and even things like jewelry that when that wedding ring comes off the ball and the chain doesn't go away, ladies and gentlemen, then we can see the jewelry implants that they usually wear and the interaction relationship that has. with the environment, so when we take all that together and analyze it, what we can do is use that information to help in investigations, for example, mr.

Rakesh Sr. Rakesh recorded himself sexually abusing and raping a young child repeatedly and child sexual abuse is one of those really rare crimes where the perpetrator records himself committing the act and the reason he does it is twofold. : first, to be able to relive the experience and also know that it is part of

their

Anatomy that is interacting with the child and those images that they create they will put online and they will put them online because it allows them to have a greater profile within

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community to May they be gold stars. Depending on the level of depravity that you have as a child sexual abuser and it is also a currency, you can sell these images in terms of profit, allowing other people to have access to them so that we know in terms of the crimes and the volume of the crimes. that we can do a little to help, you can see it from mr. attached the right thumb we were able to compare what is the image of the criminal on the left, the image of the suspect on the right and in terms of mr.

Akash also had a clinical condition, he had something called melanin every year and you can see that there is a dark stripe of pigmentation on the nail which you can see in the image of the criminal which is at the bottom and in the image of the suspect which is at the bottom. upper part. when all that information in our report is presented in front of mr. Akash, who has not made any comment till then, changes his plea to guilty. He has been given a 15 year sentence and the judge asked to see the videos, which is very rare and the reason he did it is because he wanted to try it. to understand the enormity of the effect on this little boy and wanted to be able to witness the depravity of mr.

Akash so that he can be sentenced appropriately he will serve 15 years in prison and when he is released he will be deported this is the type of cases we face on a daily basis the praise given to mr. Huckle was that he was the UK's most prolific pedophile; there were 91 counts of rape and sexual abuse against him of children as young as six months old and between six months and 12 years old over a period of 8 years here again, as often happens, there was no comment, no comment no comment throughout the police interrogation until the reports landed on the desk comparing the anatomy of the suspect and the anatomy of the offender decided they would move forward with 22 of those charges and gave him 20 to life in prison he will spend a minimum of 25 years in prison, but it is likely that spend more time.

These cases are just the tip of an iceberg. We can probably only handle about 50 cases a year because what we do is very labor intensive. The images we have are usually of very poor quality, the videos are of quite poor quality, sometimes the police photographs are even worse quality than those of criminals, which presents a completely different set of challenges for us, but Our team is very small and we are the only team doing this in the UK and we also work many cases in Europe. 82% results in a change of plea, which is a huge result because it means we free up a lot of time in the courtroom, but it also means that these victims don't have to go to court to declare that they are not presenting evidence against their father, your mother's boyfriend or your next door neighbor, we have been able to secure 28 like now 30 to life in prison and over 300 years of incarceration, but there is a huge problem here and that problem is absolutely gigantic, so we need your help .

If we put the work we are doing at a size equivalent to the scale of the problem, then we are probably the smallest. on the leg of a flea they are sitting on the top of an iceberg because the enormity of child sexual abuse and the sharing of abuse images is extensive, the statistics we cannot ignore that one in 20 children in the UK have suffered abuse child sex. We know that out of three kids don't say it, so we really have no idea, but statistics say that probably one in six people have experienced unwanted sexual advances and when you look at how many people are in this room, you know who you are.

And you know what effect that has on you. More than ninety percent of child sexual abuse comes from people we know, so we believe our children are safe, they are cared for by people we know are the most likely to suffer. transgress and abuse our children and, what is really worrying, those who are the most vulnerable disabled children are three times more likely to be abused than any other child. More than 45,000 cases a year reported in the United Kingdom, that is, one hundred and twenty-four cases per day every week. the size of a middle school of children in the UK being sexual abuse is absolutely unacceptable on our part in terms of our society and we know of at least 40,000 who are registered as sexual abusers in the UK now that we have technology available to us safely there is something within technology that can help us and we know that we can design AI is a crime, we know that in 2015 we were talking about the lowest level of car theft ever recorded because the technology had become so smart that we have been able to put all these devices in our cars, so it wasn't worth it for the criminal to steal them.

If we can generate that much excitement over protecting a vehicle with a piece of metal, then surely we should be able to have some excitement. about being able to protect our children, but the only thing we know about criminals is that they love a challenge and when you get to the point of designing the crime, they find a way to overcome your technology, so we never have a solution. we have to continue to have repeated solutions what is the technology involved in child sexual abuse it is very simple it is all those things that you put in your hands a few moments ago of being connected the pedophile uses what is available to all of us mobile phones laptops , desktop computers, iPads, hard drives, cameras, those are the means by which they record themselves committing their own crime, if we can design crime and cars, surely at the end of the day, as a society , it's not too much to ask your incredibly huge brains and ingenuity to help us devise a way in which we can prevent thepeople take these images of children not just taking them but uploading them and not just uploading them but sharing them.

I can't believe there isn't a simple solution. solution to this, but I'm the luddite who doesn't have a single device that connects to anything anywhere. I can't solve this problem, but I think someone can and that would be the most tremendous step forward when you are a victim of childhood sexual abuse you are not a victim for one day, you are a victim for the rest of your life and the opportunities that are lost in that childhood is something that we must all vehemently unite against, it is a global challenge and it is a global challenge that you proposed to me today live on cable in the presence of Google let's do it let's protect our children let's stop protecting our cars and start protecting our children, thank you very much, really, what are you?