Schwarzenegger: Why I don't think Trump will win a second presidential election

Tonight as we continue to report on the fallout from Donald Trump's criminal indictment. We're talking to perhaps the most famous Republican in the country other than Trump himself about the federal case against the former president. The current state of our deeply divided country and the picture that not even this bodybuilder turned movie star turned politician could make a reality. Arnold Schwarzenegger, former governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, welcome. It's great to talk to you again. And I want to start with the basics. Do you prefer to be called Governor or Arnold? I do not care to. They call me anything and everything.

You know, when I go to Sacramento, they call me Governor and they go to Gold's Gym, they call me Arnold and they go to Austria. Call me schnitzel or Kraut or whatever. I mean, I get every title you can imagine. Well, to close between Arnold and schnitzel, but I

think

I'll stick with Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Constitution says that a president has to be a U.S. citizen by birth, if it weren't for that. Would he have run for president? Well, yes, of course. I mean, I

think

the field was wide open in 2016 and I think the field is wide open right now.

I mean, think about it right now. I mean, who is really a person who can bring everyone together? Who is it the other day that people say, okay, you're not too old or you're not in this to do that? Or is it because now the question is about who you vote against instead of who you vote for? So you're saying you'd run for president in '20, '24? Absolutely. Because it's a look, it's obvious. I see very clearly how he was able to win the

election

. I mean, it's like me in California when, you know, I ran for governor, it was clear that people are looking for a new answer, not a right wing or a left wing, but someone who can unite the nation. .

There are so many things that need to be done and that can be done. And what makes it so wonderful is that it is doable. Everything is feasible. All it takes is for people to come together and say: yes, we can do this. You've posted some videos over the last few years that I want to ask you about. You posted this video right after the January 6 insurrection. Take a look Wednesday was Broken Glass Day here in the United States. Broken glass was in the windows of the United States Capitol. President Trump is a failed leader. He

will

go down in history as the worst president of all time.

The good thing is that the decision

will

be as irrelevant as an old tweet. Another night of broken glass or glass hitting was in 1938, when Nazi sympathizers looted Jewish shops, synagogues and schools. Do you still think it's fair to compare Kristallnacht, the Nazi attack on the Jews, with what happened on January 6? Yes absolutely. I mean, I think, of course, it's a different time and all. But it's like a threat to democracy and a threat to what happens to people when they're lied to. And that's why I compared it to that because in Kristallnacht and what I know with my father, who was part of the Nazi Party, you know, they were lied to, they were deceived.

And I think a lot of people in America today are being fooled. But you were wrong about Donald Trump. You said it's going to be irrelevant. He is not. In fact, he is the leading candidate for the Republican nomination. You know, we don't know the future. I just predicted it. But we'll see. And remember, the future still continues. So in a few years we will see how correct it was and that I cannot prove it now. But in the end I think it will be true. I will be right now. Trump has been indicted on federal charges, but most top Republican officials side with him against the special counsel.

How do you explain that? Well, first of all, I'm not an expert on this topic. I can only tell him one thing, that if the charges are correct, then he will be in serious trouble. But at the same time, I have to say that we are always innocent until proven guilty. So we'll find out what the courts say in the future. But I mean, if the judges are right, I think there will be serious problems. And how worried are you about the fact that you could be re-elected president? I'm not worried because I don't think it's going to happen.

I just don't think you can get re-elected with 30% or 33% of people voting for you, all you need in the polls. I think that's dead. There are excellent poll numbers among conservatives, but I think if we add it all up, it's not enough. Voters need to be influenced. You need independents. And then the question is, can you do that? I, I believe he can. In March, he posted another video about the rise of anti-Semitism in this country and around the world. Here it is, there has never been a successful movement based on hate. I mean, think about that.

The Nazis lose, the Confederacy loses, the apartheid movement loses, and the list goes on and on. I don't want you to be a loser. How do you explain all the hate and what do you think it will take in America and around the world for the fever and hate to end? I mean, people are really hungry for something positive. There are so many things on social media and online that are negative, negative, negative, negative. So, you know, I think that has an impact on the way people feel about things. So what I want to do is take people out of that negativity and just have them give them something positive to tell them that they are good.

Tell them about their training well. Tell them that they are in good shape, that there is hope for them in all of this. And so I think this is where the action is today. And I have always been an optimist. I have always been a positive person and yes, there are many things I don't like, but that doesn't mean I have to hate people. And I think that's what we have to do with racial problems. Which we have about, you know, gay people and all that kind of stuff. The immigrants, the Mexicans, the Russians and all this, we just have to go and unite.

No matter who it is, no matter how different they are, respect them as human beings and try to see their point of view. You are also deeply involved in the environment. He runs an annual conference called the Austrian World Summit. You recently said something interesting about not liking the phrase climate change. You think it's bad marketing. What do you mean? Well, because when you talk about climate change, it is something that is always referred to as something that is going to happen in the future or that is going to happen gradually in people's minds. Our brain is not programmed to respond to something in the future.

So, let's look at something that is actually the cause of climate change: pollution. If we fight pollution, everyone will join in. But if you say climate change, Republicans will immediately lean the other way because it's one of those buzzwords they hate. According to the World Health Organization, 7 million people a year die from pollution, not from climate change. Yeah, maybe there are a few hundred people dying here and there because of a fire flood or something. But not like pollution. Then we should talk about pollution. That's what works. You are very busy these days. You're starring in a wildly popular series on Netflix, your first TV series called FUBAR, in which you play a CIA agent who's about to retire when he's called upon to help save another agent who turns out to be his daughter. .

Here you are. I am a father. Bounce it all over the place and shoot. You could tell, that was my clue, I have to say the story is okay, but for me, the pleasure is seeing Arnold be Arnold again. But hey, I think it's one of those great television series that is so well written that I can be myself, I can do the humor, I can do the action, I can do the serious things. I mean, it hits all the different layers. So it was well written. The writers were fantastic. And they did a great job.

And they promised me that they would give me eight scripts that are very close to the idea of ​​True Lies. So I believed them and they did it. Okay, you're 75 years old. You have all the money in the world. Why are you jumping around moving vehicles? Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I don't think I was ever motivated by anything I did for money. It was always just because I enjoyed it. I love bodybuilding and I love getting into movies and doing all the scenes. Yes. You go and start making more and more money because that is your value.

But it's not about that. You really have to love what you are doing. So why do you do that? I love doing it. It's always something different every day and I love that.