Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal: The Newsnight Interview - BBC News

We have come to Buckingham Palace under very unusual circumstances. Normally we would be discussing his work. His duty will come to that, but today he has chosen to speak for the first time. Why have you decided to speak now? Because there is no good time to talk about Mr. Epstein and everything related and we have been talking to News Night for about six months about doing something related to the work that I was doing and unfortunately we have not been able to fit it into his shared agenda or mine until now. and it's actually a very good opportunity and I'm delighted to be able to see you today as you say, this all goes back to your friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, how did you first become friends?

How did you meet? I met through his girlfriend. in 1999, who and I had known her since she was at university in the UK and it would be somewhat of an exaggeration to say that, I think we were close friends, we were friends through other people and I had a lot of things going on. opportunity to go to the United States but I didn't have much time with him. I guess I saw him once or twice a year maybe max 3 times a year and quite often if he was in the US and doing things and if he wasn't there I would say well why don't you come and use my eyes.

I told him that he is very kind, thank you very much indeed, but it would be a considerable exaggeration to say that he was a very, very close friend. but he had the most extraordinary ability to bring extraordinary people together and that's what I remember: going to dinners where you met academics, politicians, people from the United Nations. I mean, it was a cosmopolitan group, whatever the US is described as. The eminence was that its appeal then was that what you because you were perceived by the public as the Prince of the party was something that is also a little exaggerated .

I don't know why I collected that title because I've never gone out to party. I was single for quite a while in the early '80s, but after I got married I was very happy and never really felt the need to party, and going to Jeffrey's certainly wasn't about partying. Absolutely not, you said they weren't very good friends, but would you describe him as a good friend? Did you trust him? Yes, I think I probably did, but again, I don't go into a friendship looking for the wrong thing if you understand what I mean, I am and I am an attractive person.

I want to be able to participate. I want to know. I want to learn. But we have to remember that he was transitioning out of the Navy at that time and in the transition. I wanted to know more about what was going on because in the Navy it's a pretty isolated business because you're at sea all the time and I was going to become the Special Representative for International Trade and Investment, so I wanted to know more about what was happening in the international business world and that was another reason to go there and the opportunities I had to go to Wall Street and other places to learn while I was there were absolutely vital.

He was also your guest in the year 2000. Epstein was a guest at Windsor Castle and at Sandringham he was taken straight into the heart of the world at your invitation, but certainly at my invitation, not at the invitation of the Royal Family, but remember that It was his girlfriend who was the key element in this. He was the like he was more one, to a certain extent in what I wrote, you organized a birthday party for Epstein's girlfriend at Maxwell in Sandringham, no, it was a weekend of filming, a week of filming, just a weekend of simple filming weekend, but during these times when he was a guest on The weekend of filming at Windsor Castle in Sandringham, we now know that he was and had been procuring young girls for sex trafficking.

We now know that at that time there was no indication to me or anyone else that that was what he was doing and certainly when I saw him either in the United States or when I was staying in his homes in the United States. united there was no indication absolutely no indication and if there was it must be remembered that at that time I was a patron of the NSPCC. campaign so I was close to what was going on at the time about how to get rid of child abuse so I knew what to look for but I never saw them so you would have made that connection because you stayed with him you went visitor, guest on many occasions in his homes and nothing seemed suspicious to you during all that time just for the record that you urinated on his private plane, yes, you stayed on his private island, yes, he stayed at his house in Palm Beach yes, visited Gillen Maxwell's home in Belgravia in London yes, in 2006, in May, an arrest warrant was issued for Epstein for sexual assault of a minor, yes, in July he was invited to Windsor Castle, his daughter Princess Beatrice . 18th birthday, why would you do that?

Because I was asking Galloon, but still at that time I don't think he certainly wasn't aware when the invitation was issued of what was going on in the United States and he wasn't aware until until the media found out because he never he said nothing about it, he never talked to you about the fact that an arrest warrant had been issued, so he came to that party knowing that the police were investigating him, if it was the police, I don't know. Look, this is the promise I made at that time, but I'm afraid he sees, this is the problem.

A lot of this was happening in the United States and I wasn't a part of it and didn't know anything about it. In 2008 he was convicted of soliciting and recruiting a minor for prostitution. he was imprisoned. This is your friend, how do you feel about this? Well, I stopped contacting him after I found out he was under investigation and that was later in 2006. and I wasn't in contact with him again until 2010, so it was just one of those things where someone is going through that kind of thing. , well I'm so sorry I can't be when he was serving time there was no don't call no letter nothing there he was released in July in a few months by December 2010 you went to stay with him in his mansion in New York why did you Were you dating a convicted sex offender?

I have always done that since this happened and since this has become public that I was there I have questioned why I was what I was doing and if it was the right thing to do now I went there for the sole purpose of telling him that because he had been convicted it was not. It was appropriate that we were seen together and several people canceled on me in both directions, whether to go see him or not to go with him, and I made the decision because this was serious and I felt like doing it was over the time.

The telephone was the chickens' way of doing it. I had to go see him and talk to him and I went to see him and he was doing other things in New York at the time and we got a chance to go for a walk. in the park and that was the conversation that happened to be photographed, which was when I told him, look what you've been through, I don't think it's appropriate for us to keep in touch and by mutual agreement during that walk in the park we decided that we would separate and I left, I think it was the next day and to this day I never had any contact with him from that day on, what did he say when you told him you were breaking up the friendship he had? what I would describe as understanding, he didn't go too deep into the conversation about what I was doing and what he was doing, except to say that he had agreed, but it was a plea deal that he had served his sentence. and he went on with his life, see what I mean, and I said yes, but I'm afraid to say that's what it can be, but with all the consequent scrutiny on me, then I don't think it's a smart thing to do.

Who advised you then that it was a good idea to go and break the friendship? Does that come from the palace? How much did it come from? So there were a number of people some people from my staff some people from friends and family. talking to him and I made the decision that I had to show leadership and I had to go see him and I had to tell him that was it, that was in December 2010, he had a party to celebrate his release and you were invited as a guest of honor Oh in 2010 there wasn't certainly there wasn't a party to celebrate his release in December because it was a small dinner there were only eight or ten of us I think at the dinner there was if there was a party then I don't do anything about it, you were invited to that dinner as the guest of honor well, I was there, so there was a dinner, I think he was as you might say, but yeah, okay, I was there for a moment, I was there.

Understood? I'm just trying to figure this out because you said you went to break up and still stayed in that New York mansion for days. I wonder how he was doing other things while he was there, but you were staying at the house, he was a convicted sex offender, it was a convenient place to stay, I mean I've gone through this in my mind so many times at the end of the day with the benefit of all hindsight. that one could have done it was definitely the wrong thing to do, but at the time I felt it was the honorable and right thing to do and I fully admit that my judgment was probably influenced by my tendency to be overly honorable, but that's because during that time those few days witnesses say they saw many young girls coming and going at that time there is a video of Epstein accompanied by young girls and you were there staying at his house catching up with friends.

I never mean, if they were, then I wasn't a part of any of that. I never saw them. I mean, you have to understand that his house I described more as almost like a train station, if you know what I mean in the sense that there were people coming in and out of that house all the time, what they were doing and why I didn't have anything to do with what they were there, so I'm afraid I can't comment on that because I really don't know, another guest was Jon Brockman, the literary agent. He now described seeing you there receiving a foot massage from a young Russian woman.

Did that happen? No, you are absolutely sure, you can't remember, absolutely sure, so Jon Brockman's statement is false. He wouldn't do it. I don't know mr. Brockman, so I don't know what he's talking about, but it definitely wasn't you getting a foot massage from a Russian girl in Jeffrey Epstein's cells. I know it might seem like a fun way to break up a friendship, allowing yourself some kind of dinner party at home is a strange way to say it, it's a very crude way to say it, yes, you're absolutely right, but actually, the truth is it's just that I actually only saw it during the part where dinner has fun on the walk in the park and you probably pass through the hallway, so let's get to that middle part that was photographed.

Friends of yours suggest that Epstein wanted that photo taken, perhaps he had even set it up. Are you worried that you are being cheated on again? The information that has come out since his suicide has made us reevaluate that walk in the park. We can't find any evidence of my staff or my people. I can't find any evidence to suggest that's what he was doing. I mean, you can search. I look at it in so many different ways, the fact is that someone very intelligently took that photograph, they weren't as far away as I am, I don't remember it nor do my security people remember anyone being present or nearby because there was enough security around.

I mean, the security people's pictures are around the photo, so I could have, but yeah, I guess what they're asking me is do you feel like you were part of Epstein's public rehabilitation? Oh no, it's pretty funny. I don't know, I mean, if he was, if he was doing it, if that photograph was taken for that purpose with that purpose in mind, then it doesn't amount to what really happened, so why wouldn't you announce this breakup? When you came back, why didn't you explain publicly what you did? Were you worried that he had something that could compromise him?

Know? Yes, do you regret that trip? Yes, do you regret the whole friendship with Epstein now manat and the reason is that? The people I met and the opportunities I was given to learn, whether by him or because of him, were actually very helpful. He himself wasn't as close as you might think. We didn't go, we didn't go. It's so close, so I mean yes, I would go and stay at his house, but that was because of his girlfriend, not because of him. That visit in December 2010 was the only time you saw him after his conviction.

Did you see him or talk to him? him again 2010 was that was it because I went well first of all I wanted to make sure that if I was going to go see him I had to make sure there was enough time between his release because it was not something I was going to rush into but I had to Go to see it. I had to go see him. Stay with him and stay at home. I could have easily gone and stayed somewhere else, but sheer convenience was out of the question. to communicate with the man, I mean, he was in and out all over the place, so taking him to a place for a period of time to have a conversation long enough to say look, these are the reasons why I'm not . was going to and that happened on the walk in July of this year Epstein was arrested on charges of sex trafficking and abuse of dozens of underage girls one of Epstein's accusers Virginia Roberts has made accusations against you says she met him in 2001 says that I had dinner with you I danced with you in a nightclub inLondon and then had sex with you in a house in Belgravia that belongs to a girl and Maxwell, your friend, your answer.

I don't remember meeting this lady you don't remember meeting her she says she met you in 2001 she had dinner with you she danced with you you bought drinks you are in a nightclub in London and she had sex with you in a house in Belgravia belonging to a girl in Maxwell it didn't happen do you remember her? No, I don't remember meeting her. In fact, I'm almost convinced I was never in a trance with her. There are many. Of the things that are wrong in that story, one of them is that I don't know where the bar is, there are no homeless people, I don't drink, I don't think I've ever bought a drink in a trance when I was Do you remember dancing in no?

That couldn't have happened because the suggested date was at home with the kids, you know you were at home with the kids, was it a memorable night on that particular day we're on now? I understand that the date is March 10. She was at home. I was with the children. She had taken Beatrice to a pizza express. She was working for a party at I guess around 4:00 or 5:00 in the afternoon. So because the Duchess was away, we have a simple rule in the family: when one is away, the others were there, I was on terminal leave at the time from the Royal Navy, so I was at home, why would you remember that so specifically?

Why would you remember a Pizza Express birthday and being at home? Because going to Pizza Express in Woking is unusual for me. Do something very unusual for me. I have never been. I've only worked a couple of times and I remember it strangely clearly, but as soon as someone reminded me, I remember that I don't remember meeting or being in the company or presence, so you are absolutely sure that you are home on the day March 10, she was very specific about that night, she described dancing with you and you sweating profusely and that she happened to possibly have a little problem with sweating because I have a peculiar medical condition which is that I wasn't sweating or not sweating at that time and That was a machine if I didn't sweat at the time because I had suffered what I would describe as an adrenaline overdose in the Falklands War when I was shot and I just did it.

It was almost impossible for me to sweat and it's only because I've done several things in the recent past that I'm starting to be able to do it again, so I'm afraid to say there is a medical condition. that says she didn't do it, so is it possible that you met Virginia Roberts? Did you have dinner with her? You danced with her. You had sex with her on another date. No, do you remember meeting her? Do you know you didn't know her? or you just don't remember no, I have IIIi I don't know if I met her but no, I don't remember the meeting because she was very specific, she described the dance they had together in she described their meeting, she was a A 17 year old girl never met a important member of the royal family.

She provided a photo of the two of you together. Yes, your arm was around her waist. Yes, you have seen the photo. I have seen the first girl. How do you explain that? I can't because I don't have it again I have absolutely no memory of that photograph being taken Do you recognize yourself? Look, it was pretty hard not to recognize you. Your friend suggested that the photo is fake. I think it is from the The investigations we have done cannot prove whether that photograph is fake or not because it is a photograph of a photograph of a photograph so it is very difficult to prove it but I do not remember that photograph. was ever taken, but it may have been you with you, that's me, but whether it's my hand or that's the position, me, but no, I just don't have any memory of the photograph that was ever taken, the world Now you have seen the photo that Virginia Roberts provided by Epstein, we understand that in Guerlain Maxwell's house, this is the problem.

I have never seen Epstein with a camera in my life. I think it was Virginia Roberts' camera. She said a little code in one she lent to Epstein. He took a photo. and your arm I don't remember I don't remember that photograph ever being taken I don't remember going up the stairs of the house because that photograph was taken upstairs and I'm not entirely convinced that I mean that's what I would describe myself as myself in that photo, but I can't, we can't be sure whether or not that's my hand on it, whatever it is, on the left side, you think, because I have no memory of that photo being taken.

So why would anyone have put another hand in? You think it's you next to her in the photo, but definitely me, that's a photo of me, it's not a photo of I don't think it's a photo of me in London because when I go out. When I go out to London I wear a suit and tie, that's what I would describe, as that's my travel clothes. If I'm going abroad, I have a lot of photographs of myself. dressed in that kind of gear, but not there just to clarify, then you think that photo has been faked, no one can prove whether that photo has been taken or not, but I don't remember that photo ever being taken and you don't.

I don't remember having your hand around her waist as a girl in the Maxwell house on any occasion, even if it was different. I'm sorry, but I, as a member of the royal family, have my photograph taken and I take very, very few photographs. It is NOT something that does, so to speak, hug and publicly show affection, so that's the best explanation I can give you and then, and I'm afraid to say this, I don't think that photograph was taken in the way that It has been suggested why wouldn't people believe you were there? Sorry, why am I just trying to understand that there is a photo inside Gillan Maxwell's house?

Golan itself is in the background, why wouldn't people believe you were there? with her that night, how can you possibly want to believe it, but there is a photograph that was taken upstairs and I don't think she went up to the gallon house. I was sure it was because because because the dining room and everything was on the telephone which was on the ground floor and it was when you entered them when you entered the hallway so I don't remember going up there. I can't explain this particular photograph, if the original was ever produced then maybe we can figure it out, but you can categorically say that you don't remember meeting Virginia Roberts having dinner with her dancing with her and that you are going to have sex with her in a bedroom in a house in Belgravia.

I can tell you absolutely categorically that it never happened. Do you remember any kind of sexual contact with Virginia Roberts and then not at any other time? None at all because she said in a legal declaration, a legal court document in 2015, that she had sexual relations with the three of you. times she's not confused about this, she said the first was in London when she was trafficked to you, the second was at Epstein's mansion in New York, that's a date in April, I think that's right, she said it was about a month later, yes. Well, I think the date we have for that shows that I was in Boston or I was in New York the day before and I was at a dinner for the Wood Band Trust in New York and then I flew to Boston the next day and then one day She says this happened, she had already left to go to the island before I returned from Boston, so I don't think that could have happened at all.

There was a witness there, Jana Stolberg, who says you visited the house that month. She probably did. I don't think that was one of the weird things that I was staying with, because of what I was doing, I was staying with the Consul General, who is further down. the street on the fifth, so I wasn't, I wasn't staying there, I may have visited, but no, I definitely didn't, definitely, no, no, there was no activity because in a 2015 legal declaration she said who had sex with you three times once. in a house in London when she was trafficked to you at Maxwell's house once in New York about a month later at Epstein's mansion and once on his private island in a group of seven or eight other girls no, not all of them, absolutely not to all.

So why would she be saying those things? We're wondering exactly the same thing, but I have no idea at all that she made these claims in a US case. Statement mm-hm are you saying you don't believe her? She is lying. It's a very difficult thing to answer because I'm not in a position to know what she's trying to accomplish, but as I can tell you categorically, I don't remember meeting her. She said, quote, he knows exactly what he's done and I hope he makes it clear it was nothing, so if Virginia Roberts is watching this

interview

, what is your message to her?

I don't have a message for her because I have to have thick skin if someone is going to do that. type of accusations, so I'm going to have a thick skin and continue with this, but they never happened, for the record, is there any way you could have had sexual relations with that young woman or any young woman trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein at any of his residences no and and and without putting too much emphasis on it, if you are a man, having sex with someone is a positive act, you must take some kind of positive action and therefore if you try to forget it, it is very difficult to try to forget positive actions and I do not remember anything.

Can't. I racked my brain and thought, "Well, when the first delegation was where the accusations originally arose. I went well, that's a little strange. I didn't do it." I remember this and then I went through it again and again and no, nothing. Epstein's housekeeper also in a legal statement in Florida Court said that you visited Palm Beach residents about four times a year and had a daily massage four times a year, that's what she said in a legal statement in the Florida Court. Oh, I'm just wondering, when you look back, is there a possibility that those massages were the services of someone who was being sexually exploited or trafficked by Epstein hmm no, I don't think that means, definitely not, definitely not, e Ivan definitely didn't visit his house in Palm Beach three or four times a year, absolutely not, how many times would I say I visited?

Me in total, probably four times in total. the time I met him, in fact, that was probably the one that was the place where, if you know what I mean, he was in the house more than others in other places where I found him, but usually it was because he was passing was passing through somewhere else so it was one day that was that that was what you said in your palace statement at no point did I see witnesses or suspect any suspicious behavior yes, Virginia Roberts' legal team says you can't spend time with Epstein and not know what's going on you can't spend time with Epstein and not know what's going on if you're someone like me, so people behave in a subtly different way than you wouldn't in the first place I'm not looking for it, the point is. which if you're looking for it, you may have suspected it by now, with the benefit of a lot of hindsight, the lot of analysis that you look back and come out okay, that was really the way. that he was or he was I was looking at it the wrong way but you don't go to these places you're not going to stay with people looking for that you couldn't spend time with him that's what they said you could Not spend time with him and not know the other side This is because I live in an institution at Buckingham Palace where there are members of staff walking around all the time and I don't want to seem grand, but there were a lot of people walking around Geoffrey Epstein's house as far as I knew, they were staff, They were people who worked for him or did things where he interacted with them if he hadn't already said good morning. good afternoon, but I didn't, if you know what I mean, interact with them in a way that was, what are you doing here?, why are you here?, what's going on?, but you would notice if there was hundreds of underage girls under you, but, but.

Sorry, you wouldn't know if there were hundreds of underage girls Geoffrey's size. If you are asking me to speculate about things I simply don't know about you, you seem completely convinced that you are telling the truth, would you be willing to testify or give a statement under oath if asked? Well, I'm like everyone. Otherwise, I would have to follow all the legal advice that was out there before doing that kind of thing, but if things got ugly and the leaked legal advice was to do it, then I would be obligated to do it, did you say because I said there is many unanswered questions.

All those affected want closure. You would help provide that closure if there was one, in the right circumstances. Yes, I would because I think there is as much closure for me as there is for everyone else and, without a doubt. Some very strange and unpleasant activities have been going on. I'm afraid I'm not the person who can shed light on it for several reasons, one of which is that I wasn't there long enough, so if you go for one day two days at a time it's pretty easy, I've been led to believe. type of people hide their activities during that period of time and then continue when you are not there.

Virginia Roberts Lawyers Legal Team Sayswho have asked for a legal declaration. There is an FBI investigation now. I'll be willing to provide that again. I am bound by my legal advice. Legal advisors tell me that Epstein was found dead in prison. Yes, in August of this year. What was his response to finding out that he had died in shock? Some people think he didn't take his life there again. I don't want to be able to answer that question. I think it focuses on something to do, it was a bone in the neck, as to whether you commit suicide or not, that bone breaks or something.

But I'm afraid I'm not an expert. I have to accept what the coroner says and ruled it was a suicide. He is dead. His girlfriend Galen Maxwell. Your old friend. The victims say he was complicit in his behavior. In that sense, I can't. help you because I have no idea do you think she has questions to answer about her role in this in the same way that I have questions to answer in the sense of what she was doing and how I say she was? There, in my opinion, be honorable and say: look, you have been convicted, it would be incompatible for me to be seen with you, unfortunately someone was standing with a camera at that moment and took a photograph of us, it is one of the fewest photographs there are of us but that's the way it was if there are questions that ghilane has to answer that's her problem I'm afraid I'm not in a position to comment one way or another I lost contact with her It was earlier this year quite fun at this in the summer in the spring summer about what, but she was here doing a protest, so even though by then he had already been arrested and was facing charges and trafficking, no, no, this was early spring.

I think it was long because when he was arrested in July, no, it was before July and that was the last time, yes, because you talk about obscene at all, no, actually, interestingly, no, not at all, there was nothing to discuss about him because he wasn't. in the

news

it wasn't, you know, we've just moved on I want to talk about moving on coming Epstein is dead yeah, women are heard quite right now, how do you get over this? Well, it's an interesting way to put it simply, I get on with what I do. I have a number of things that I've been doing since 2011, they're pretty well organized and pretty successful, so I keep going and try to improve those things that I'm doing.

I'm already doing it. I wonder what effect all this has had on your immediate family, you have your own daughters, it has been what I would describe as a constant vision in the family, we all knew him and I think if we have a conversation about it is that we all we're left with the same thing of what happened on earth why how did he get to where he was what did he do how did he do it and then it's just a constant kind of Noor, I mean this, this first came out in 2011 and it was a surprise to all of us because the photographs were published at a different time than when I was there and there was some kind of question about what was happening and as a family we discussed it and then in 2015 when the accusations were made in the statement, there was some kind In this is the immediate family, no not the broader family, the broader family could not be more supportive, but the immediate family was more soul. and we're all just lost, so that's how damaging the episode was to the royal family for Her Majesty The Queen.

I don't think it's been detrimental to the Queen at all for me and it's been a constant trickle yes. See what I mean at the core, at the core, people want to know if I was in a position to be able to answer all these questions in one go. so that I would give sensible answers different from the ones I have given. that that closed that I loved it but I'm afraid I can't I'm just not in a position to sit down because I'm as in the dark as a lot of people how do you reconnect with the audience? so I know exactly what I'm doing, which is using and continuing to work with the tone to continue working with the idea and the things that I firmly believe in.

I'm not someone who does things in competition with people, interestingly I do things in collaboration with people, so I want people to work together to come up with, so to speak, a solution to a bigger problem, so I got several people work together, particularly in the field of education, particularly in and also in areas of government and what they are doing so that we are bringing everyone together so that we are all pulling in the same direction, an idea now says that we have been going correctly for Two years, we have three and a half million people. that have a badge, we have half a million or just over half a million young people that were using the service and I'll try to think what else we have, but okay, it's designed for seven to fourteen years. years in the UK and it turns out it's made anywhere from five to 95 around the world, so it's now being made in 100 countries, so we were kind of catching up on this one.

I know we have to bring this to you. I faced questions today about a very, very raw topic. There has never been an

interview

like this before. I wonder what that tells us about the way the royal family now deals with these difficult situations. Has there been a radical change? I think the problem is that what we face in the 21st century is social media, there is a whole range of things that you face now that you didn't face 25 years ago because it was just print media and I think that, to some extent, exists . There's a thick skin you have to have and again, I'm not a confrontational lister.

I would rather be able to, so to speak, resolve things in a way that is sensible and therefore choose, so to speak, to get out. and talking about these things is almost a mental health issue to some extent for me in the sense that it's been on my mind for many years. I know I made the wrong judgment and I made the wrong decision, but I made the wrong decision and the wrong judgment, I believe fundamentally for the right reasons, i.e. telling someone that I will never see you again and, in fact, from that day on I never I was in contact with him, the subsequent accusations are what I would describe as surprising, shocking and a distraction, but I mean there are all kinds of things that are on the Internet and in the public domain that just suit us, yes, but I I fear this will never happen.

It happened that you have talked about a tough skin. I wonder if you now have any feelings of guilt, regret or shame for your behavior in your friendship with Epstein in regards to mr. Epstein is concerned that it was the wrong decision to go see him in 2010, as far as my association with him goes, it had some very beneficial results in areas that have nothing to do with what describes who we are. Speaking of today in general, could I have avoided meeting him? Probably not and that's because of my friendship with Ghilane. It was inevitable that we would have met.

Do I regret the fact that he obviously drove? himself in a way and becoming yes, I'm becoming a sex offender, yes, sorry, I'm being polite, I mean that in the sense that he was a sex offender, but no, I was right to have him as friend at the time, I keep in mind this was a few years before he was accused of being a sex offender. I think something was wrong, so the problem was the fact that once he was convicted I stayed with him and that's the bit that, so to speak, I kick myself on a daily basis because it wasn't something that was becoming in a souvenir of the royal family and we try to maintain the highest standards and practices and I left out some present.

This interview has been exceptionally strange that you don't talk about this topic again. Is there anything you think has been left unsaid that you would like to say now? No I dont think so. I think you've probably drawn out most of what is required and I'm really grateful for the opportunity you've given me to be able to discuss this with you, Your Highness, thank you very much.