POST MATCH REACTION: Lille 2-1 Aston Villa | Villa win on penalties!!

H, I can't resist listening to a little Hong with the theme tune, what a different mood we're in than we thought we were going to be in about half an hour ago. Oh, I was dreading this podcast at one point tonight, but what? What a result in the end. I don't really know how to start this. I am contractually obligated to mention that this podcast is not sponsored by even a VPN that is as professional as this podcast. There's probably a link to that in the description. down, I'm exhausted after that, I feel like I just played those 120 minutes.

I'm still bad, that was unreal. I'm also impressed that clearly, before the game, Emory sent the players out under stricter instructions than anyone else. If you get caught running, you'll get fined, so consequently, we just watched 120 minutes of football and then, you know, casually G on

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has always been about the vibes and the emotions, and you'll get it, you'll get a lot of that tonight, but in terms of a structured show of where to start, I have no idea where to go.

It is not worth talking about individual circumstances. that happened during the game, the different moments, I'm not entirely sure, it all comes down to that, that penalty shootout and we'll start backwards and see where we go, I guess I mean the emotions of that, as I remember it. Last year, qualifying for Europe and in the summer, it's just the Conference League, all this kind of stuff means something, doesn't it? We're all feeling it now aren't we, of course we are, and I think especially because we're seeing all the other English teams going down around us, yeah, and I think in tonight's performance you can see why I think the Commentators mentioned at one point that our 49th game of the season so far or something like that.

We took the weekend off and went to play. in one of the best teams in Europe, so yeah, we beat them and we did the same again tonight, you know everything, you know, in over 120 minutes we may have lost, but it was what you know. no doubt, they're a good team, they're a good team, they were in the league three years ago and we showed up there in their backyard, exhausted 49 games into the season and we still put them to sleep, unbelievable, yes we have. We talk a lot, don't we? I honestly can't catch my breath.

I run up the stairs, but I feel. I feel the adrenaline of a penalty taker. Is rare. I don't think I was thinking about this before as with the opportunity. that this could go to

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, I don't think I've seen a Villa penalty shootout other than the semi-final in the playoffs, I think it's the only one and that was crazy, it was kind of nervous to see because there again. There was a lot at stake, you know, promotion to the Premier League was at stake with the attempt to reach the playoff final, but this had such a strange vibe watching the game from home as if we were again going to go with all. about the place here, but I texted my dad halfway to ask who the commentator was because I knew it wasn't Clive Tillsley, but it sounded like Clive Tillsley, yeah, and just watching the game I felt like an international , had a strange vibe. of this like this is accessory now this like a World Cup knockout game like I don't know I just felt very different as if everything depended on this we are out we really can't do anything because we are not there strange to be away in the second leg and everything depends on this and for most of the game we were shit and I'm thinking oh no, that's it, everything will come to a head and we've put so much on Arsenal that Now we're going to exit Europe in the quarter-finals and this It feels like England in a tournament with so many hopes.

Oh, they're the favorites and then you know it's more flattering to cheat and when the going gets tough, they pull out. a little bit and that's exactly where I expected this podcast to go and oh what a disappointment and we can still go for fourth place I guess but get to the quarterfinals and turn it on a knife edge like that and win on penalties thank you to one. of the best or the best goalkeeper in the world with his antics the type of phantom yellow card that we will talk about in a second yes, they threw things at him from the home fans they just had a little bit of everything that IT wasn't pretty, it wasn't nice, but it had a little bit of everything, it was a true European game away from home.

I mean, yeah, you're showing how young you are there, mate, by saying you can't really remember the penalty shootout because I was there for Inter Milan, you know, they're horrible seeing the little kids in the stadium crying afterwards , I could totally understand it and you know, oh yeah, no one in this house was laughing at that no and, by the way, it's something else. I'll text you during the game. I don't know what the producer was doing during the game. I haven't seen so many French kids since I read the trick books at school, it was amazing every time. opportunity, a close-up of a French kid, but yeah, I mean, I think when you look at it, you'd always hope that with the pedigree and the history that Martinez has, you'd think, yeah, you know, he's probably going to do it, but you know, I think we .

I've seen it a little bit before, maybe with Brad Guzan, where they had a couple of good penalties and then they didn't, whereas Martinez really got over it, you know, it's amazing to watch and people talk about his antics and whatever else he doesn't. make. I really don't think that has anything to do with it, you know, the Royals raised the atmosphere, but there was no antics before that first penalty and he saved it. I don't want to come across his ear like, oh, we know what. was going to happen, but everything we said in the preview, we said how it could be, this could be difficult and it will be one of the best assists in their stadium, they will be willing to do it, you have the type. of Ultras, it is a European game away from home, it is going to be difficult again, no matter how much we talk a lot about Villa being the favorite.

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ups in the tournament tree, you know, how to play each one. another that is probably a future. I'm sure I've seen this elsewhere which is probably a future Champions League. Ty Villa and Leo say that's the trajectory of where these clubs are heading, yes, possibly next season, so I've been distracted by the comments. I don't know where I was going to go, but I'll intervene for you, so yeah, I think the atmosphere was incredible and I think that added to the feeling that it was a proper European night, I think playing in a team that you know is, They are a very good team, probably most Villa fans are not too familiar with them.

I imagine most of us don't see a lot of League wins, so you have that sense of mystery about them. They've got that horrible right back who spent most of the two games throwing himself around throughout the game, some waving yellow cards at the referee, but equally you know I'd have him at Villa Park next season, he certainly looks like he's a good footballer. I know he really nailed it, he had everything you would expect from a European tie and I think some of the previous games in the competition just didn't have that impact. I think you guys talk about us being at the end of the business. of things now and we really are in terms of this competition.

I remember what he was going to say, we called it in the preview, it was going to be difficult that kind of thing, but then John randomly at the end said who are your five penalty takers? and I said, oh no, yes, penalties are knockout football. Now this is a thing. The five we listed are not the five who stepped up, yes, but we both said that if we are going to advance in a penalty shootout it is thanks to the goalkeeper. As much as the forward players or the midfielders have to take the penalties, Emy Martínez will have to save at least one, possibly two, so if he does that and saves the first one and obviously the last one, um, yeah, it's just incredible and I .

I don't want to get ahead of myself, oh this is how tournaments are won because we still have a very difficult semi-final ahead of us and obviously the final to get through too, although I feel a bit about this competition in a similar way to what I did with the final of the playoffs, getting to the final is the difficult part. I think if we get there, it's not a formality, but the difference was that when we got to the championship game, I thought, well, but the difficult thing was getting there and I feel the same way about the conference.

Passing Leo was such a difficult task passing I don't know who it is yet obviously olyp cost of ferachi that's going to be difficult in two leagues but if you get there and you feel safe in a roundabout way, um, but we're going to have to rely on Martinez and he's those kind of important players in the important moments of the game where they don't play well, but he steps up to save the day that goes on to help you win tournaments and qualify for these big competitions, yeah, I mean , it was one of those games where you would think you couldn't, couldn't write it, couldn't invent it. but actually I think Emmy Martínez could have written that if she had, if she was scripting a game, he absolutely got booked twice by coming out as the hero saving the first, not the second, and the third penalizes the first and to The last one was just a textbook, Emmy Martinez and as has been the case several times recently, he does it when we need him to, you can see why he doesn't do it or finally win competitions with him on the team because when he starts to be a little sketchy, you know he's completely finished, it's amazing to see, yeah, let's talk specifically about his yellow cards before we mention the referee as a whole, then obviously he gets booked in something like the 30th minute which I comes to mind. in the first half anyway because of the time lost, which feels good is that partly his reputation has gone against him or it is genuine that he has been wasting CU time, that seems a little extreme to me to reserve a goalkeeper in that uh at the beginning of the game, but I guess you could argue well, the referee then sets the precedent that he's not allowing, that he took him out early, so in that sense, fair play to him, the part in the end was booked much earlier that, in fact, there was a correct part.

Towards the end, minute 118 or whatever, it comes back to Emmy and he knows he can pick it up, but he just stands on the ball for I don't know 30 seconds, kind of waiting for them to come, then picks it up and walks away. with him for a long time during the time they are allowed to keep him and I thought he was very nervous at that moment. He was thinking you dare get sent off now for a second yellow card before penalties because come on. need you obviously, yeah, yeah, to then get booked for the second penalty, I think, or his second penalty, to come and save to get booked on that and the commentators don't even know what's going on, they're kind of Why?

Why do they expel Martínez? What are the rules here? And I'm thinking, well, if they don't know, does anyone know? The first thing I did was surely you can't send off a goalkeeper in a penalty shootout just because, I think. the comment mentioned at one point when between my screaming and telling the misses how much I was shaking and my hands were sweating, it's not the beginning of an Eminem song, um, but yeah, I think they said that yellow cards during a match don't It doesn't carry over to a penalty shootout, it's like it's treated as a separate thing, but in theory you could get two yellow cards in a penalty shootout and be sent off like a go po?

Yeah, I don't know and it seems like all the stuff potentially booking him was nothing too, yeah, he said we could probably continue with the ref, he enjoyed his big night, isn't he the ref, he had a good time out there, every foul It was a yellow card, some of them were Not even the fouls, I don't know how many the total was again, but it has to be close to double figures if we don't overcome, we have managed to overcome the amnesty of a suspension for the first semi-final for three who were above. it dii MC and cash, I think they were one warning away from being suspended for the semi-final five, the comment is that not being one of those who get the yellow is a miracle considering how many there were, totally, what's going on?

These referees like it, the obvious thing is that they want to be the center of attention or whatever part of you wants to say, maybe they just want to stamp their authority on the game from the beginning, which can't be said fairly , but then they lose control so quickly and the game gets away from them and the times it explodes, Up is running and already trying to catch up with him so just have a TI moment to think instead of taking him out when he gets there or deciding If it's going to come in, yes, I think so.

It seems like a lot of these referees in general for the occasion, I mean, was Ajax away from home bad and the referee was from similar referees in the Albanian League or something? Normally, you know, he was absolutely out of his depth, but I think overall, the biggest problem we see in the Premier League every week is consistency. Okay, you know you booked Lucenia for putting her foot in the right side and then the same thing happens the other way around and he's not booked, yeah, yeah. Yes, player, and it is like that, yes, there was an element.

I know that's comingwith that and you feel like things are slipping away from you. a bit for Emry and FCA to get books, plus a little altercation that even Emry is a little eager to return it, which is so unlike him that I tweeted at one point during the game as if it really wasn't. enjoying this and then followed it up with something like Unusually Reckless or something, it just wasn't the usual Villa we were used to, we were losing our minds a bit and that's pressure, I guess it's fatigue, it's whatever except getting through everything that and winning the last Last Chance Saloon in the penalty shootout under those circumstances, in a way, eliminating everything that precedes it, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that we do garbage that we have overcome and that's it.

Ely, what was it about, yes, yes, definitely, and I think we got through without any injuries or suspensions, even though they played 120 minutes. It's hard to say that anyone really had to break their stomach over the course of the game, I thought. Coner was absolutely magnificent in the center of defence, he made a hook pass in the second half that could have gotten us into trouble, but I thought other than that he was incredible and considering Jonathan David is supposed to be one of the best forwards fasts in Europe or the world and there were two times that the commentators almost seemed to want him to show how fast he was and Coner went with him and beat him to the ball or you know, I thought he had a great game.

I thought the same thing. with pav Torres it's just co-director and distribution and I think some of these come to mind because I was sitting there when we were two to zero thinking I have to go and try to talk about this later and I don't want to just be negative and positive so I I sat there thinking it would be nice to win a trophy, but even if you win it you only qualify for the Europa League, which is what means we could now be in next season anyway and I have to learn that it is a great experience for some of the players, you know, whether it's Morgan Rogers.

To analyze how to play in that kind of atmosphere against that level of team, I mean, Ajax was a big, loud stadium and whatever. but they're not, you know, they're not a patch on Le in terms of a football team at the moment, yeah, so I think now all those positives add up to the fact that we won a penalty shootout and we saved the game. right at the end and we have gone to the semi-finals of a European competition. Yes, Villa fans. I just said that we have moved on to European competition. Yes. 11 yellow cards in total for Villa. 44 Leo I don't know if that counts.

Martínez has two. I just asked John if he knows if he is banned because all the comments say that Martínez is now banned with two yellows. I don't know, but I don't believe it. I think that would have already been mentioned somewhere more official than this podcast if it were true. I think previous yellow cards are removed for the semi-finals and then any suspensions. I think that's all. I think even if you get two warnings. In both semi-finals I don't think you can miss the final for a yellow suspension, if you get a straight red it's probably different I guess at this point so let's skate on that because I don't actually know if I'll hear back from John W was still there , you'll obviously find out it's there, you'll ask, you'll be surprised that the referee does a John Terry and just walks onto the field with his K in the final and starts cautioning people.

I got distracted again with the comments. I was going to make a different point because I saw the comments like it was banned or not and it distracted me from what I was going to talk about um uh I don't know who you would have put in the goal I think ohome oh. You can't make a substitution, couldn't you bring in a real goalkeeper? No, of course not, it's a penalty shot too late. I didn't even think about that, I just shoot, that's what I mean, surely sending off a goalkeeper in a penalty shootout is like that. counterproductive, what's the point of even making it an option anyway?

So I don't know, I thought it was like what's he gone, what are we going to do now and immediately I'm just thinking, John Duran absolutely has to be it, he's a lunatic. exactly what you would want, he would save them all, I guarantee as soon as he showed up, it's like the right tactics outside the window unleashed chaos. This is how we got to the point of this podcast that now suggests that John Durán would have come in and not only would he have come in and done a job but he saved everyone, but I still think he came in and it shows his evolution as a player because he didn't.

He was reprimanded, which is notable. I don't think so, I'm sure he went down at some point for going past that player, okay, so he didn't deserve it, um and he seemed to be showing up a lot in defense, he was almost playing like a midfielder at times when before I just wouldn't have expected you to think straight. Or he'll have to run inside and Jan will just stay up front and just talk about why we're fourth in the league. and why we are in a European semi-final because the way these players have come to Morgan Rogers, you know, let's not forget where he played for Man City's reserves this time last year, never mind playing in the Championship and he comes . in a game like that it doesn't seem out of place at all, yeah, and it goes into circumstances I wouldn't have expected, OB Z retires relatively early, I guess due to injury, um, I remember the point I was going to make, it's funny what you say about like you know the positives or hold on to something positive like oh well maybe we didn't need it anyway, something like that because winning the Conference League only gives you Europa League status.

What is the worst case scenario in the Premier League? finish in a Europa League position, so what's the point? We had the exact same tweet that SL YouTube commented on this afternoon saying well, now fifth place is pretty much guaranteed for Villa and the EUR Europa League at the very least, doesn't it make a lot of sense to prioritize the conference? League or should we just go to fourth place and at that point it's like well and I still get the point, yeah you can only get the Europa League, but it's about a trophy, it's not now, it's not if you were in the middle of the board.

You'd be fine, this is our route back to Europe, like if you're Newcastle this season you're probably not fine, they might actually. Now Chelsea, well maybe, whoever it is, it's someone who's not going to finish in the top seven and who was still in it. You'd be thinking, well, that's our route to Europe next year for us, this isn't our route to Europe because we're going to finish at least in those positions anyway, hopefully in the Champions League positions, but everything It's about cutlery, the conference. league now, even if it wasn't already, it's just about winning and lifting the trophy, that's purely what it's about now, it's not about what this achieves for us and the surprise money, it's about the pride of being first in winning the trophy. trophy in my life or well yeah I'll remember it anyway like it's months old when we last won our trophy so winning a trophy is what it's all about, forget what it means for us in terms of next season .

Raising money when for me this seems like one of the most difficult obstacles. I think the semi-final will be easier than Leo and I think the final will also be easier. Getting there is the difficult thing I said before. Yes, well, I think so. you're right, it's about cutlery and I also think a lot of what emmer is instilling in the club not just the players, good habits, we don't make excuses, good habits and winning trophies, winning football games, winning trophies is a habit and things have changed since the days when they put 16 or 17 year olds in the league cup and, whatever it is, you see people like Guardiola turning up and they want to win all the competitions and that has to be be like that.

You are tired, you played 49 games, keep going like this, it is really a privilege because we came out so early in both national cups, we should have already played 53 54 games by now, if there is no more to go, we should go all the way. to the fa cupf and all that, we should go to hell for leather in as many competitions as possible. Yes, you could argue that we don't have the capabilities in terms of team depth and all that, and I don't think this is a negative thing. Oh we haven't won the League Cup this season because we are having an incredible season when you said then that we would be chasing the top four and be in a European Cup, a European Cup, not a European Cup semi-final, Whatever happens now, that's amazing. achievement, but we are very close to achieving something, yes, if you finish fourth and we win the Conference League, as I know John once said about what our limits are, what is the best we can do and for now that is. that's the most it could have been this season.

I don't think we could have finished higher than fourth place and there's nothing better than winning the competition you're in, so we're performing or on track to, hopefully. at full capacity for this season finishing fourth and winning this trophy is the best thing we could have done and when you consider all the obstacles we have had along the way in terms of injuries, the poor results that you expect, I mean the injuries that are in the sense that even Matty Cash is back, but Moreno is injured, even little things like that throughout the season, there's always something, isn't it the fact that we've been able to navigate all the way through it and we've gotten to this point and now we're so close to achieving something tangible, it's special isn't it, this is a special season, oh yeah, I mean if I had come to this show after the first Newcastle game. the season and said, "well, don't worry about it, against the conference league final, it will be fourth with four or five games left, you know, I've been, you'll never get back in, you're talking about this crack." look at the comments, you know, I think that's it.

I go back a bit more, get hit again at Fulham and nasf seir is tying Steven Gerro to the back of the coach and dragging him to bm6 or whatever happens um. You know, it feels like a lifetime ago in comparison and I think for me as a fan, I think when we were two nil down it was easy to put on that comfy old pair of slippers that said a lot to me, this is it. This is just what Villa does. This won't hurt because I'm used to it. You already know. I am used to it.

I'm used to getting that punch in the gut just when things are supposed to start going well. "It's not the punch in the gut. It's not just that it hasn't happened yet, it's just no, it's not coming and even if we lose the semi-final, even if we finish fifth, well, next season it won't be that many times." I've been in these types of positions and it feels like this is our only chance. This is the way out. If we don't do this, Man City will sign all our players and the manager will leave the day before the season starts or whatever. and it's not this, it's getting used to this, getting used to how you feel, this tension, this anxiety, this emotion, because this is what being a

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I said something similar, after Arsenal or before Arsenal, I can. I don't remember it being a crazy few weeks, but I said something like we have to change our. I'm just telling you this, Rob, because obviously everyone else has already heard, but we have to change our mentality from this type of classic Villa as a typical Villa to throw it in the trash, don't think that we are already that, as you just said, this It's a new generation, this is Judge us on what we're doing now, what we used to do 10 years ago and we have a rock of shit. against them because we always have things that change, this is a different Beast that we're dealing with here and and for a long time, man, go on, yeah, no, definitely, I think you're right and I've never been one for these statistics of town.

I haven't beaten so-and-so since 1974, it's like, well, they're not the same players who've been trying everything, are they? They don't have long careers as darts players or anything like that, you know, they don't. Can we have a Shout out to Leon Biley, who is someone we have on the podcast. I'm going to go back a year or more now that we've criticized. Obviously he's had a resurgence this season, more than just a brilliant season to come in and change the game. I kind of thought he was our Bry spark, certainly in the future, um and yeah, just to get involved in that sense and help us get back to the side where he missed his penalty, right?

Am I understanding this correctly before I? Go on, yeah, yeah, at the beginning of the season too he did it almost like just a word to him that you know, this would have been oh, that was a bad time he missed that, but we've gone to win. Anyway, you know, it's a shame for him, but in the end we did well, but it was partly thanks to him that we got back into it anyway, so the fact that he missed it shouldn't be be good, we won anyway. you know what I mean, so there shouldn't be any way, but there shouldn't be any pile or antiboh, oh, if he scored, it was much less tense, whatever it was, thanks to him we got back into the game in that position of anyway.so there's no kind of negativity about the difference, he comes and just puts The Frighteners on people, I mean realistically yes he's missed his penalty, but I mean Dougie should have scored the follow up shot from Bailey.

He really realized how much time he had. He could have chested it down and hit it into the net. Yes, he should have done better. You know he played more than played. the part about him, I think you know, Cash scored his goal and he also had a good shot before that. I thought he had a very varied game. Cash. I think him, but hear me out on this. People in the comments. I think that he. It seemed Rusty when he started, which is understandable and I think he seemed really exposed. He seemed to be alone a lot on that right side, which would make sense because they seem to be focusing most of his attacks on our left, presumably. to pin down the DEA so we couldn't move forward and put balls on um so it seemed like sometimes he was having a really hard time and then other times you know he was really putting himself in danger. the correct position getting in the way of the ball.

I think attacking probably looked as positive as I've seen in a while. I think half of them especially felt like maybe Emory had told them in Halim, well, yes they are. I'm going to keep stacking Luca, let's just let him stay back and collect whatever he gets and we'll get someone to support him a little. Yeah, overall I thought he had a bad game, but I'll go with it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. and I put it down to rust, he obviously just came back from injury, he's not the best player in the world, he's not the best player on this team, he's been mostly reliable and I like him, but I can see why people will call him . being replaced in the summer and all that kind of stuff that's not a conversation we're going to get into now, but even before the SC goal, I think our first correct shot on goal was in the 80th minute or something stupid that he He would have had a chance in the first half, I think when he was actually offside, he also had that effort from long range towards the end of the game and then obviously scored the goal and got us back into it.

He also scores. his penalty so it's a bad fair play for him he scored the goal and he disallowed his penalty like when we made our list of five Matty Cash wasn't even close he wasn't even sure we would play so for him Da a step forward at a time when not many people would look down on him for even taking a penalty. He has a decent shot. I think there are five better penalty takers on the team that would come before him, so for him to do it is Yes, he plays fair with that penalty.

I don't think he ever did because he completely buried it. Yeah, so no, I mean, it was great. I think he was a big part of tonight. You know, you can look at the actual performance and the statistics. anything else, but a lot of tonight showed the mentality of this Aston Villa and that's what's really encouraging, it was once again with just a few minutes left, we're not beaten, we're not done, you know, and you can go back a couple. weeks we may be gutted, we may be on our feet for a bit, but look at the Brenford game, this team just doesn't know when they're beaten and that's a very good habit, yeah, especially when you're tired and you're making mistakes and you're not in your hand to continue believing and for a right back to appear and score the goal with three minutes left, which shows that you know we can play that adventurous football. and I really think that Emory's approach is so meticulous that he's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to handle every 10-minute section of every game in terms of getting the most out of his energy and whatever else you know, it's really going to be um yeah, I think we're playing the way he wants us to play to make sure we can win this competition and finish in the top four.

Yeah, we've had a lot of conversations about the top four or the conference league and I've always said. and the policeman's response is both. I really think that's doable. I really believe it now in mid-April. The fourth semi-final is in our hands. Keep winning games and you'll do both. It's literally as simple as that comment here to finish. very quickly from s says how are you guys so calm that was unreal we've been filming for half an hour like we're just here shouting and buzzing it's not good listening so we try to tone it down a little bit but we're absolutely, oh yeah , EXC, really, but you know you have to have a bit of composure for a podcast, this is not and will never be Arsenal fan TV, so no, I have an unexpected video of me from my wife now who was filming me during the shootout staged penalties at the end again there seems to be some I know you have to go in a second there seems to be some kind of confusion about whether that was the deciding factor to save or not, it seemed a bit like it was the most or not of the commentators , so I celebrated the save obviously and heard that, oh, I might not be done yet and I'm wondering what wait a minute. like I was going through it during that moment like I couldn't imagine what it was like to be awake that night, it must have been absolute hell, but also there's such a euphoria at the end, so being there for a while.

Penalty shootout is horrible, yeah, I look almost grumpy, I'm exhausted, I saved both of their penalties, it doesn't matter about Emmy Martinez, I'm really like my wife is laughing at me, I'm sitting there, my hands are shaking and I just it was all over the place do you want to end this with Martinez's little dance for the L fans and a little silence on the comments? I probably won't end it with a dance, but I think yes, I will end it. with some happy words that yes, a lot of what was said in the podcast, we just have to accept this, get used to it because there will be a lot more of these, there will be a lot of monotonous performances in Europe that will see us. survive and whatever else, but that's just about winning games, winning trophies and we have a coach who is a serial winner, we have a group of players who have been trained to be serial winners in Ser, they are being trained with serial winners. and as a fanbase we need to start acting like that too yeah absolutely spot on buddy we'll call it a day.

Thanks Rob for joining me tonight. It has really been a pleasure. Thank you all for choosing our podcast to watch. Listen tonight. I'm aware that there are plenty of great Villa podcasts available for you to spend half an hour with us straight after, that's much appreciated. We are in a European Cup semi-final in a couple of weeks. Can? Believe it, we're fourth in the league with everything on the line for Rob. He's excited about it. Thank you very much for watching, thank you for listening and we will see you very soon.