Oprah's 2020 Vision Tour Visionaries: Lady Gaga Interview

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, your life and a focused journey ww-wait watches reimagine and join forces to bring you candid conversations with some of the world's most famous pioneers whose story wellness program to empower you to discover Troost's highest vision for your life. We're ready, so when I decided to go on a trip with WW for a full day of wellness, I knew one of the things I wanted to do was invite some of the most influential people in the country. pioneers and innovative thinkers in the world to join me, so these are the few who have truly channeled their fame and harnessed their own experiences to become a force for all that it means to be well and do well in this world, as well What's my honor that my first guests came to Fort Lauderdale to share with all of us today, please welcome the incomparable Lady Gaga, hey, welcome, thank you very much for having such a welcome welcome, let the People absorb it all, thanks for coming.

I was telling reporters. Yesterday I was so nervous to ask you first of all because it's one of those things where I was so nervous to ask you and then you asked me and I thought I moved my vacation. I would do anything for Oprah and that's why you know. people are usually on vacation and just come back a year later, but the fact that you said yes immediately when we were having a conversation that ended up in Elle magazine and you were so forthcoming and so honest, it was like we needed to. I'll be sharing this with some people. on a stage, so thank you, thank you very much, we have been talking about vision and everyone gave up their Sabbath to go out and begin the process of getting clarity for their own vision.

They knew you would come too. so I think you are part of this. I think this stadium would have been full without me. Oprah. I'm pretty sure you can fill it. I think it's the complete package that people are looking for for themselves. the best life possible and you know what I want for every person in this room and I want it for the world yes I absolutely want to know when you have clarity on the vision of creating Gaga well you know at the beginning when she was younger. I went through a lot of struggles in high school.

They harassed me a lot. I didn't feel good about myself and I cut myself. They made fun of things like: Why do you want to be a singer? Why do you want to be a musician? Because? I want to be an actress and I felt so secluded and isolated and it was time for me to leave university. I admit that I stayed in school, but I left university because I thought I had to pursue my dreams as a musician. This is what I want and it was by creating Gaga that I was able to create a superhero for myself.

It was a vision of me that I wanted to be. I wanted to be confident. I wanted to be full of self-pity. I wanted to be filled with compassion. for others and I wanted to share my story and my worldview with the world and then you created this kind of alternative person, Gaga, who has now become me too, I mean, I don't know what happened, but he's a servant, but but that's what happens when you have a vision for yourself, you see that you can be here and then you have your vision and suddenly the two merge, they come together, you become a line, yeah, and you say Lady Gaga created the creation .

Gaga actually gave Stephanie the wings to fly, Gaga myself has given me the wings to fly and what I was going to add is that now, after almost over a decade of being in the industry, I really recognize my position that people are looking at me. Now I might focus too much on being objectified or appearing in the tabloids or gossip, but you know what I'm thinking, oh, the world is watching and I have something important to say and I want to change people's lives. Now my mission is different. and I have a responsibility to this whole world, yes, one of the things we discussed on l/i, one of the things that surprised me when we talked about it in the recent Elle magazine, you said, I said, it's been a long time.

The time she shocked the world in that meat dress was the first time we all liked it, we're like a gasp and you said that now you've reached a point in your life where you don't feel the need to create any identity of surprise, shocking people, yes. I think it was something I enjoyed, entertaining people, you know, so they would listen to the music and there was a kind of state of confusion about who this woman is. I really don't know, I'm like she's like you. I know how to rock, watch a train wreck, you know, but the truth is that was part of my art form, how can I make people see, look, listen and engage with me on a personal level, although I think it feels Pretty superficial? for a lot of people and it's changed since then because, firstly, it's no longer shocking to have pink hair and secondly, I think the most shocking thing I could do is be completely vulnerable and honest with you about my life and what I've done. .

I have been through the struggles that I have seen and also been a part of and I share them with the world so that I can help other people who are suffering and one of those things that I care deeply about is mental health. Yes, Gaga has done it. she very kindly agreed to be part of a series I'm doing for Apple TV with Prince Harry about mental health and she agreed to let us follow her through much of the process, one of the things that caught my attention when you were there. at the Oscars and everyone started whispering if it was true that you and Bradley weren't a we're not or we're not and Gaga tells them what you told me.

I said we did a really good job fooling everyone because they are actors that we created and they created everything because it wouldn't have worked if you didn't believe they were in love. I mean, I don't know if everyone here knows who Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire were, but would you? I wanted to see them perform and it seemed like they hated each other, yeah, so one of the things I loved was your speech where you laid it all out in the few seconds you said if you're home and you're watching. Right now, all I have to say is that it's hard work.

I have worked hard for a long time and it's not just about winning, it's about not giving up and if you have a dream, fight for it and this is a part that I love. All of this is worth quoting, there is discipline to passion and it's not about how many times you get rejected, fall or get hit, but how many times you get up, be brave and keep going. I love that there is a discipline for passion. Thank you. There is a different discipline for passion. And guess what, this book you gave everyone today. Yes, this whole event.

This is also an exercise in a discipline of passion for you. This is the moment. that's so that you give back when you give back to yourself, you feel in a state of gratitude and then you are able to give to those around you and be kind, that's how we are in the world, so someone asked you what you do. Look, when you look at that Oscar and you say you see a lot of pain and it was because of the hard work or it's because of the actual mental physical pain that you had to go through up to that point to recover.

It's not a big secret, but some of you may not know it, neither the audience tonight nor who is watching, but I struggle with mental health issues and also chronic pain. Some call it fibromyalgia or neuropathic pain. What does that mean? Fibromyalgia. What does it mean?. very important question, Oprah, so fibromyalgia is essentially a chronic pain condition that makes your body hurt through your brain. Now someone who might be seeing this might be saying, don't tell me my fibromyalgia is in my head because my whole body. It hurts and even sitting here with you today I am in pain from head to toe, but the interesting thing is that through neuropsychological research and my relationship with my doctors I discovered that fibromyalgia can be treated through mental health therapy and mental health is a condition medical condition should be treated as a medical condition that should not be ignored and twice you said you have mental health issues, yeah what does that mean to you?

Because, as I was sharing with you on the phone, I have a school for girls. with girls who come from traumatic backgrounds, yeah, and I didn't know that until I started school because I had this idea that I would create this school and everyone would come and give me an education. I will go out into the world, everything will be fabulous. I had no idea the impact trauma has on your mental health. Well, I have shared this with you and I will share it again very vulnerably with all of you. I could open my book and read. but I'll just tell you, I was raped repeatedly when I was 19 and I also developed PTSD and as a result of the rape, as a result of being raped and also not processing that trauma, no one helped me.

I didn't have a therapist I didn't have a psychiatrist I didn't have a doctor to help me get through this I just suddenly became a star and I was traveling the world going from the hotel room to the garage to the limo to the stage and I never did. I struggled and suddenly started experiencing incredible, intense pain throughout my body that actually mimicked the illness I felt after I was raped. I know this repeatedly and it was a traumatic response, so when you asked me what fibromyalgia is, what I would like you to know and clarify is that many people do not know what it is and we should all come together. and figure this out and this is how we're going to do it, there's the neuropsychic aspect, there's also an immunity aspect, where there's a possibility that the immune system has something to do with fibromyalgia or the response to trauma or neuropathic pain, whatever you want to call it. and there are also some similarities in my condition with autoimmune diseases, but fibromyalgia is not an autoimmune disease, so today I make an oath as a commitment to you is that it is

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and for the next decade and maybe longer, I will get the most intelligent. scientists, doctors, psychiatrists, mathematicians, researchers and professors together in the same room and we are going to analyze each problem one by one and we are going to solve this mental health crisis, so when you are raped and you have no way to process it, the triggers. in all the ways in ways that you cannot predict and they appear in your life in areas that at the time you do not know that this is a mental illness that you told me that you became a cutter that I made and scars and that you have scars from cutting, Can you explain to me because I have girls at my school who cut and I still to this day don't understand what it means and I know if you're in this audience, some of you have raised daughters who were cutters, yeah, what, what, what?

It's like that, I like to say I used to cut, yeah, instead of saying cutter, and I think I said that with you, wouldn't you do that in our

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? I love you too, baby, I like to say he used to cut, instead of me. I'm a cutter because then I identify with that, yeah, and that's not healthy for me and when you say things, you're feeding something back to your brain that you don't want to write well, so I used to cut myself, I think it happens for a variety of reasons. reasons. I also used to throw myself against the wall.

I mean, I used to do some horrible things to myself when I was in pain and the truth is, there are two reasons why I think this. This happens and this is my own personal experience, just from my experience, is that for half a second, if you cut it, you get some relief from the other pain that you feel because you have pain somewhere else, but then what happens is then. you see the blood and then you feel chaotic and then you spiral more and more out of control and it's actually not helpful in any way and it's going to make your spiral worse, it's going to make the neurotic state you're in something that goes away. to prolong rather than shorten the amount of time you are in it, another reason why people also cut is for show and my mom and I always say with the base born this way, tell me not to show me, so sometimes I cut because I didn't want to feel pain and other times I cut because I wanted to show people that I was in a lot of pain, you were in pain, I needed help, yes, and that's why when you were talking on the Oscar stage about working it's not about winning, it's about never giving up all the times you got hit and you kept getting up, what kept you getting up, all of you and women like you, faith, inspiration, hope and also I have to say, I have to say it and I know this is controversial in many ways, but medicine really helped me and I think a lot of people are afraid that medicine for their brains will help them and I really want to increase the stigma around this because I'm sick of saying it. over and over again and also by the way, if your primary care doctor is prescribing you an antidepressant this should not be happening, your primary care doctors should introduce you to a psychiatrist who is an expert in brain medications and what makes me tick .

There are so many things in this space and the reason I want to work so intensely and much more thoroughly in the future is that not everyone has access to these things and not everyone has the money for these things and I want the money for it. I want the best doctors in the world and I want us to understand the brain and for us to all be on the same page about it so that Generation Z doesn't have to deal with this like we do now. Mental health is a crisis and that is why medications havehelped.

Your medications helped me tremendously. I mean, I take an antipsychotic, in the 1.4th percentile of people who do, but if you didn't take that medication, what would happen, what would your life be like? I would spy a spiral very often and have spasms while I sleep. Wow, can you stay? creative in the midst of pain, yes, really, yes, and that comes from medicinal therapy, dialectical behavioral therapy, cognitive therapy, DBT therapy, CBT therapy, yes, and it also comes from something that I learned through DBT, which is called radical acceptance, possibly what I'm sitting here with. the most powerful woman on the planet thank you and I have radically accepted that I will put my shame in a box up there and make it very small mmm and I tell myself I have mental health problems I take a lot of medication to I stay on board and I am a survivor and I am living and thriving and I am strong and I will take all my life experiences and share them with the world and make it a better place.

Wow, that's what we've been talking about today, that you can't move forward with anything in your life until there is real radical acceptance. You have to do it. I have had. I mean, listen. I needed it like a glass of wine when they. He told me this. I remember sitting with my doctor. It seems like Andy and Andy have to radically accept that you're going to be in pain every day and I was like, are you kidding me? I thought this is how I'm going to cure it by just accepting that I'm going to feel terrible all the time I'm going to be in pain from head to toe constantly and he said you have to accept it radically and guess what it took a little while but I did it. and you know what else happened.

After that, slowly the pain dissipated slower and slower and then all of a sudden I can function because I was on the Oprah couch. He was lying down. I couldn't move. The doctors were evaluating me to see if they could. I couldn't eat I had a psychotic break I told you this in our previous

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yes they were just trying to see if they could get me to move at some point and radical acceptance was key also being open to taking medication and also being open to talking about my trauma and it's one of the hardest things any human being can face and it's so much easier to go home and have a bottle of wine or two or three, just numb it all out or go deep well.

I think this idea of ​​radical acceptance applies to every crisis, every difficulty, every challenge in your life, it's what I was saying before, that all stress comes from wanting something to be something it's not and it doesn't change until you first accept it. as it is and then you do it. a decision about what I do next is problem solving, you know, it's something they teach you in DBT that it's about emotions and then I'll explain it, so if I say I'm upset then I'll say why I'm upset. and then I will write down all the reasons and then I will check the facts and if the emotion of feeling upset fits the facts then I will move to the next stage and say okay, what action am I going to take now to resolve? this problem, so if I am upset because I am in pain at that moment, what will my action be?

I'm going to take my medicine that will help me. I'm going to reach out to a friend or my doctor and tell them I'm not feeling well and I'm going to try to get to the core of the problem inside of me and talk it into existence and do the cognitive work to say I'm upset because today I'm upset. I feel triggered by being raped when I was 19 and I'm having a trauma response and I'm going to take my medication and I'm going to try to calm my nervous system as much as possible so that this pain will dissipate and that's the process for you, that It's the process, that's one of the many processes that I can.

I can get triggered by a lot of different things, in movies, things people say. I could get triggered by this conversation, yeah, I'm not whatever. I don't want this conversation to trigger you, you know? What I found interesting: you became famous very quickly even though a lot of work had gone into getting to the point where we met you and you became famous and you made or made the decision that doesn't interest you. fame but you also look for impact I want impact I always wanted it I thought it was only through music at one point I had some dreams of being an actress and then it really was a spiritual awakening for me I mean, I consider myself a spiritual religious woman I don't go to the church every Sunday but I do pray every day I prayed like eight times before I came here with you hope is like God just tell me what to say and the truth is that once I became famous I thought To me, well, I could, I will and I want to continue making music.

I will do it and I want to continue appearing in movies, but I want to help the people who come to my shows. I don't want to just take your money and sing for you. I want to help you change your life and I have all this life experience and I can't tell when I talk to God correctly and you know what you want to call him whether it's God or the other kingdom or your angels or by any name by any name I wish about any gender right in answer when I talk to God I say tell me what you do because I'm being watched and I want to do the right thing here so tell me what to say tell me Tell me how to say it and help me see the path and if you show me that path I'll walk it and you know what, Oprah Look where that path has taken me?

I'm sitting next to you, ah, every time I ask you, you will be. Given what your greatest spiritual awakening has been, I think my greatest spiritual awakening has actually been quite recent. I think it's just that I realized that I have the chronic pain that I have for a reason and I don't pretend to be like God gave it to me. I, you know, and I don't believe in that either, like you know karma is like you're sick because you did something bad, yeah, but I do believe that this happened for a reason, all the things that I've been through I think they were supposed to happen I was supposed to go through this even the rape even the rape everything I think I was supposed to go through all these things I radically accept that they happened and I believe it happened because God was telling me I'm going to show you the pain and then you're going to help to other people who are suffering because you will understand mmm because you can't, you can't give what I can't Look away because now when I see someone suffering I can't look away because I go up no, you're suffering, I have too pain and now I'm in problem solving mode.

I put the suit on my heels and I'm ready to go, yes, so this wisdom came from this pain, what has been the lesson that is actually taking you the longest to learn to be wise. Look, there is a rational mind and an emotional mind and I believe that since day one. Nowadays, we all experience ourselves if we are conscious in some kind of way. I think it's good to keep in mind that I'm operating from an emotional space today or from a rational space today. When I say rational I mean cerebral. intelligence thoughts facts you know really pragmatic an emotional meaning like am I operating from the heart?

Am I really upset because my boyfriend broke up with me and I'm a mess? Know? and I'm being completely irrational. Why is it in the center? Why does this happen when you are rational and emotional at the same time and those two things meet and you become wise and that was the lesson I learned? I mean, I had to learn to get away from any place and then sit in the center because it's actually a psychotic break and if you look in the brain or it's a kind of metaphor about the brain, it's like you're centered or you're here because you had a psychotic break.

I had a psychotic break. Explain what happened, okay, so here's my brain, here's my center, and then I became very severely activated in a court deposition and I like this part of the brain where you stay focused and you don't dissociate, right? It was like this. It slammed shut and my whole body started tingling and I started screaming where were you? I was in a hospital and it's very, it's very difficult to describe what it feels like other than first you feel a complete tingling from head to toe and then you go numb, but what is essentially happening as the brain works, already that's enough, I don't want to think about this anymore, I don't want to feel this anymore, boom and literally break away from reality as we know it, break away from reality as we know it, you have no concept of what's happening around you no there's nothing wrong but you're in a traumatic state that feels like I remember walking into the hospital and screaming why is no one else panicking why aren't you panicking and then they brought in a psychiatrist and I'm in pain from head to toe at the same time, right, and they went to a psychiatrist and I said, can you get me a real doctor? mm-hmm and he said, “Hello, it was nice meeting you” and sat down. and I was like I need medicine, I don't feel good, I can't feel like it would help me well and then he just said, "I need you to explain to me what happened today and I was really upset, but I." I'm telling you this story because even I, who runs the Born This Way Foundation with my mother, was irritated that they brought in a psychiatrist and to help me, I mean, that's how far away I was, I was so separated from the world and once we started to talk, he realized. what had happened to me and then he prescribed me a medication which at first I took reluctantly and then he became my psychiatrist and put together a team for me and I went to a place I still go sometimes to reset, yeah and they took care of me and we had all the things lined up and I have a very unorthodox set of pills that I take, but they saved my life and I'm very grateful, well I think this is remarkable.

You feel so open-hearted and vulnerable enough to share this. Was there a time when you were afraid to go out like Gaga was having a psychotic break? You all know. I think I was more afraid of the psychotic break itself than of people knowing about I mean, when your brain likes flat lines like that, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's something I would never want to experience again and wouldn't that happen? Were you thinking about your famous life, your life as Lady Gaga? Were you thinking about those? The days may be over where you think I am I was thinking about two different things so to answer your first question at some point I had to tell people because I can't live a lie I'm a real person and Here I am and' m I'm perfectly imperfect, you know, it is like that and we all are and we all have our things that we go through and I felt like why wouldn't I share this when I share all of myself with the world all the time and Maybe it could help people who have had psychotic breaks or maybe they're about to have one and you know, spread my message, but when I was there, one of the first things we talked about in my therapy work was objectification and that I no longer felt that I I belonged to myself I felt like I belonged to the world Wow, so how did you get so much hard work back?

Yeah, are you still in the process of that? I'm over that part. Will I feel like I belong to myself now and do I also feel like I belong to the world and I've made peace with those things that I think and I'm happy with them, but you know it takes hard work the same way this book is hard work , yeah, meaning you have to go in and you really have to answer those questions like don't be sneaky, don't try to get a good score. I thought some of us learned a lot by watching people. Do it today because I think for some people it's the first time they're asking themselves some of these questions and it takes time to think about what your real answers are and also the ego, yeah, it has to go because the ego just wants to score, what's that like? ego wants to win the exam buzz I'm perfect yeah don't do it you're doing yourself a disservice go in and answer those questions authentically and then study them and radically accept your note this is where I am and wherever you are there is where you're supposed to be right now is where the sphere is right now and then you can actually solve the problem you can't solve the problem if you're lying to yourself look, I got to a place where I didn't know who I was anymore, so I broke down. and my brain shut down, but once I started knowing myself again I was able to know do you know why you don't know yourself anymore?

Because? you've given so much of yourself to the little monsters to your fans to the world to your work I just didn't stop moving I just moved and moved and worked and worked and danced through insurmountable pain and I will say it took years to get diagnosed fibromyalgia and even if you ask my psychiatrist he doesn't even refer to that, he'll call it neuropathic pain or a traumatic response, so I went to the doctor all the time and my whole body was like that. x-ray MRI and everything for someone to tell me something was wrong, like telling me I don't have herniated discs or something and they couldn't find anything and it was very frustrating, so I was also on

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dancing in excruciating pain and I wasn't properly medicated and I wasn't in therapy and so what was I telling you?

I was afraid of dying. So you're performing on stage in front of thousands and thousands of people all over the world and every night going. to bed thinking you were going to die, yeah, and you lived that way for how long I would say I lived that way for about five years, that'svery sad and I radically accept those five years mm-hmm because they made me who I am, I understand it. I get it, but Gaga also feels so alone, you know, I think. We live in this instant world where everyone wants to be famous and they want to publish their lives as they want us to think they are and this idea of ​​what your life is like and what we see and what that we have been exposed.

About you, people think, oh God, I would love to have that life. You cannot have this life unless you are willing to have every part of this life, including the rain. rape and also no one wants to help me, you know, in an industry where everyone has someone on top of each other, so no one really wants to help you, oh yeah, no one wanted to help me, no one wanted to help me go after that person put that up. person where he belongs, which is prison, yes, and I am not ashamed of that, but you know that throughout the entire reunion movement I have made the personal decision not to say who he is because I choose not to relive him and that is my choice staff. and I hope the world respects us, but let's talk about loneliness for a moment.

I think everyone has the assumption that if you're famous you're always surrounded by people who do things for you and support you and nurture you. and given everything that people imagine in their lives, they would want it for themselves, but it's also a lonely journey, it's lonely and when you have chronic pain it's very lonely because it's just you who has that and you can't make someone else do it. sit. You feel completely alone and let me tell you something. I may be famous, but if you think someone brings me caviar all day, chances are they give me a bowl of ice to wet my head so I don't have a dissociative state hmm, so my friends I work with I never say that people work for me, they take care of me every day so that I can be healthy and do my job, do what I love and also because they believe so much in my mission and to everyone who is here today I would like to thank you very much for what you have done for me, my second family, to be able to be here with Oprah and talk to them about the importance of self-care and shed light on something that is so important let's be radical let's change things so that you have radical acceptance and what you just mentioned looking at yourself from the point of view of I just said that you reported yesterday giving yourself more love, how did you learn to do it? first move from radical acceptance to radical love for yourself, well you know, some days are better than others, some days I have a lot of self-love, some days I have less, some days I have a lot of self-confidence, some days I have less, but I had to radically accept that every day can be different and that's okay, it doesn't mean that we're not moving forward, you know, in therapy they say that sometimes, when you take three steps forward, you can also take one step back, the important thing is try to control and make sure that if you take two steps forward you don't do something that takes you 10 steps back at the same time so you know my practice and my commitment is gratitude and gratitude even in the midst of pain gratitude even in the midst from the pain I do this all the time I will be lying on my porch and crying in pain and I will say thank you God for this pain thank you I give it to you this is the origin of this pain me in my body right now I am here in this moment and I am learning thank you for teaching me Wow amen to that so what are the things that you do regularly to stay on all the medication so that you are medicated all the time? time yeah every day every day what's your ritual if I took my pill box it would sound like a rattle like a baby rattle really oh yeah okay I mean I don't mean to laugh at that it's kind of funny and even I I am healthier than I have ever been in my entire life.

Does medication affect your creative process at all? It doesn't affect my creative process. I don't take anything that does it when I go down the path of creating this epicenter of mental. health and healing I will share more with the world about a scientific love, so what you are not medicines is that you are not taking painkillers. I don't take narcotics at all, no pain, mint, no, yes, if I call my doctor and in a lot of pain and say I need I need someone to take me away this pain it's too much it's been you know it's been 11 days it's been 11 days he He says well you can go to the hospital and you can ask them to give you painkillers and then I will tell them now and what they will give you is already in your bag so go to your bag and take your medicine and feel pain in the privacy of your own home and He doesn't mean he's not nice to me, it's just that that's how we keep myself safe, you know, and that's how I want to keep the world safe too.

I don't want people in pain to take painkillers, this is not the case. the way this is going to work people are going to get addicted and there's a correlation between mental health and chronic pain and mental health is the biggest crisis in the world so what's happening is mental health is the biggest health crisis than We're right, this also produces chronic neuropathic pain, so I want to be clear because I don't want people to leave here today saying you know she's on drugs. I want to be very clear, so you are taking antidepressants. I'm on antidepressants, I'm on a medication called methyl carbon mall and I'm on an antipsychotic called olanzapine and I'm on some other things that are stress based, yes, but I want to be very careful about saying any of this in public. way to tell anyone what to take, you know, this is not the same for everyone, so I want to make it very clear that if you feel like you need help, you should go to a psychiatrist and that psychiatrist should evaluate you properly. so you can get the help that you really need, what I take is not necessarily what you need to take and you had to go through a series of different medications until you got the right one because I know a lot, yeah, yeah, I did I had to go through a series and actually one that helped me the most was a medication called modafinil.

I don't know if anyone knows about that medication but it's in the morning when I wake up and I'm in tremendous pain most of the time and it just turns on the lights and my brain just wakes up and then before I know it the pain starts to dissipate. a little bit, but not narcotics, not narcotics, not painkillers, not painkillers, no. xanax not even a xanax not even that better okay, I'm not judging you okay, I don't mean what could we do we could have an offline conversation about other drugs that are better than that? okay listen I only started taking xanax after my dog ​​Luke was we needed Luke to take xanax to fly because he was like a wreck flying and it calmed him down so I thought he might need one of those so when I travel I travel or when you sign your tax returns, I travel, I'm traveling and in several time zones I can't sleep I take half of one of Luke's pills you looked at me with so much shame in your eyes there is no solution I have my baby rattle okay as you have your xanax and we all need our stuff I don't call it You may have to show yourself this and then try that, but the important thing is that you are working with someone who is an expert in medicine, so when you leave here today having heard from me about this or from anyone who is seeing this more late, don't walk away knowing that I am sharing my personal experience with you, but I am NOT prescribing for you, okay, I understood correctly, you understand that yes, it is okay, and I am not at liberty to prescribe for you.

I'm just sharing my story and I don't have an unorthodox medicine box and that has changed my So you use medicine but you also do a lot of other things to stay spiritually healthy. Yes, then I meditate. Yes. I do Transcendental Meditation. It's great. Yes. Bob Roth taught me. Bob Roth taught me. Okay, cool, sorry. Okay, so I do that and when I slip. You know it's not the best because it's better when I do it and sometimes I can feel a lot of pain and meditate and it goes away. Is incredible. I also exercise every day but I also listen to my body, so yes I am in a lot of pain and I am very stressed.

You may not do as intense a workout or you may not exercise at all. I listen to my body and listen to what it tells me. I do dialectical psychotherapy. Behavioral therapy and I also do a lot of other things like opposite action, for example, so let's say you're feeling really depressed and you're at home and you've been home for seven days straight and you just can't leave the house. and you just do the opposite action, someone invites you to go somewhere or you go up to a friend and say, hey, you want to play a game of poker, get up, get in your car and do the opposite action, that's something that I do all the time. so you're actively working on yourself all the time all the time I'm actively working on myself.

I have to do it, if I don't I will sit and be in pain all day. So when will the LG6 creation process happen? Four years, four. years four years not for years but for years ok and it's happening aha ok don't worry we're having a self care conversation but I'm still going to make music don't worry because we were talking before I was talking to Julianne Hough earlier and she said that the Dance is your superpower oh yeah, your superpowers are power is music, you know. I think I have some superpowers. I just haven't used them all yet.

I'm getting ready. I have a magic wand. my bag, I know your superpower certainly one of them was creating the Born This Way Foundation. I think it's one of the greatest things you've done, thank you, not only did you have that great anthem that became an anthem for so many people's lives. to say I accept myself radically as I am because I was born that way so tell us what you intend because the intention is very important for us what you intended when you created the work of that foundation the work of that foundation was something that many people did not understand for a long time, Yes, they said: what are you doing?

How do you raise money for How We Were for a Kinder and Braver World? and they were like, it's really that simple, we just want to create a kinder, braver world and they're like, I don't understand, so what we do is we do research and we also provide resources so that people can learn more about mental health, importance of kindness and we have also put mental health first aid in schools across the country and, as also part of my commitment, this could be separate from the other epicenter of the healing work that I want to do.

I want a mental health professional in every school in the country, we need it and we need it. I want mental health to be its own class. What is sexual education in health class? What we are still doing is sex education. I don't even know. I mean, what are we learning in health class? We should learn about the brain. and then we're learning about the brain and the body and its connection and all the things. Yes, I want there to be someone in every school that someone can go to if they need help or that they can go to if they need help. you see that someone else needs help and at the same time it is a requirement in every school that you learn about the importance of kindness, you learn about triggers, you learn about depression, forty-four percent of the population suffers from depression and it is because loneliness this is because of our cell phones and social media this is not loneliness because we don't have partners so we are literally collapsing around each other all there are are all these walls and we are collapsing around each other unable to have this personal interpersonal relationship connection, it has to stop, it has to stop and I know that one of the things that you are doing with the Born This Way Foundation is that your approach to courage is to take small bites of courage and teach other people how to tap, which I love this idea. little bites of bravery just be a little braver every day, you know it's like if you feel like you can't do something, just do a little, just a little bit, and I promise you before you know it, it's taking a lot of effort. a little bravery and it's amazing, it's enik and it can be a small thing for me if I'm not feeling well and maybe I have a day off, I have nothing to do, but I don't feel well simply because you know, I take a bath and massage some CBD oil on my body and then go to the mirror, brush my hair, put on makeup, get dressed, you know these are also things you learn in DBT, right, if you don't feel good, what can it be if it's your mind? or body you just have to keep moving you have to keep going it's called throwing yourself into the moment throw yourself into the moment to give it a little bit of that bravery even if you just make it to the bathroom and you don't make it to the mirror you did something and I know that for you I would say that gratitude is my religion, it's what I practice with you, you know, a deep awareness and a sense of regularity and discipline about it, and for you that is goodness, it is goodness. kindness uplifts the world the earth is an apple slowly rotting on the kitchen counter oh no, it's the truth okay, I'm sorry, but it's true, I mean, it's like you put Apple in competition on paper, but It's slow, it's very slow, right, but we have to bekind to that Apple, to the humanity of that Apple and we have to be kind to the environment to keep an apple alive as long as possible and that is your kindness, yes, yes, and in fact I have my commitment here, I want to listen. your commitment I am gratefully committed to bringing together the brightest minds I can find in the world to solve one by one the mental health crisis plaguing our world.

I want to create an epicenter of healing because when I give to others, I give. I also came back to myself, in fact, Lady Gaga gave up our vacation to come, sit and share her truth with us. Thank you, just say Oprah, I love you, I love you, girl, Lady Gaga, you.