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Opening the ULTIMATE PC! - Intel's 28 Core Xeon W

Feb 27, 2020
high power consumption graphics cards that are here because you can put up to four graphics cards in here and remember, even if it's four. -way sli is dead I think two generations ago or when it was uh overclockers can still enable it for certain benchmarks so I don't know if they're for that or if they're extra power for the CPU, I would have to check the manual for figure it out, but you know, I'm leaning towards graphics simply because there's nothing else for it and there are plenty of power connectors for the CPU, as we're about to see.
opening the ultimate pc   intel s 28 core xeon w
As we go up this ledge, I'm pulling out our u.2 data cable for our optano unit. We have two fan connectors for these beefy guys that are on this very custom acetech cooler, we'll delve into that a little bit. little when we removeThis is going to be a much longer broadcast than I expected, so David, how's your back? Okay, okay, buckle up because this is going to be a big deal. I didn't realize I was going to install a water cooler. In addition to doing a board swap, now here we are pulling out another power connector and we look at these two 24-pin power connectors as what is apparently optional because it clearly worked without it, but you can connect two power supplies directly to this motherboard .
opening the ultimate pc   intel s 28 core xeon w

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Let's also go ahead and keep moving along the top here, yes my friends, that's not two but four eight-pin CPU power connectors all the way up to the top of the board on the left and right here. Now there are only two installed at the moment, so I guess the other two are optional if you're not doing sub-zero overclocking or anything else, but again it gives you an idea of ​​what they expect these poor boards and CPUs to be able to get. We're not going to do anything that crazy, although we'll leave the extreme overclocking challenge between players like Nexus and Jay's Two Cents, I think I have a little problem, uh Anthony, can you fix it?
opening the ultimate pc   intel s 28 core xeon w
Equip me sometime. point here, okay, um, yeah, at some point in the relatively near future because I don't have the Torx bit. If you could get mine, I know for a fact that my kit has all the parts. It's in my office, to the left of my bench. table, thanks, so, yeah, I need these, I need to undo these torx screws here. I'm pretty sure the ifixit kit has the right bit for it and then I also need to find where the fuck the screws are in this weird place. motherboard form factor because I won't be able to get the board out without undoing it oh, I guess I can take a moment to talk about the cooler, so I recognize that this is clearly an oh, it's labeled, this is clearly an ace attack the cooler of aio water, but it's not like any I've seen before.
opening the ultimate pc   intel s 28 core xeon w
Something a lot of people don't know is that while asetek provides coolers for consumer brands you've heard of, like corsair for example, they also make a ton of OEMs working in the server space, even going so far as to provide solutions. of cooling for large data centers, so I'm not necessarily surprised to see a custom solution from acetech, it's just that this one is quite strange, so the first thing I noticed was that this block, so this block and central pump design clearly It wasn't designed for such a huge CPU as it obviously didn't cover it, so there would be

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s of this processor that basically weren't covered by cooling water, obviously that would be a problem, so what they've done here is like a step intermediate, uh, yeah, no, I think it's these first, like a middle layer, they've gone and thrown in this thick copper plate because even though a CPU has a It has a built-in heat sink that's designed to distribute heat of the dye, apparently that wasn't considered enough and they needed this nice thick piece of copper to act as a sort of heat buffer so it could help absorb and distribute. all the heat coming out of the cpu clearly didn't work as well as they expected either because they went and included that ek solution in the box so we can see a couple of things here one of them is the carrier. license plate uh I like the transporter I don't know sled you could call it are you going out? oh the time switch oh cool, it's right here there's a little icon there yeah, perfect, you're supposed to open it there Okay, so let's take a look at this luggage rack here.
Can you remove it? Please, okay, you just have to release that clip and that's okay, so it's designed to hold the CPU while you install it so that it doesn't get accidentally damaged. Is there a damn bent pin in this socket? I don't really know, it doesn't matter because I'm going to put that Asus board in anyway. Wow, there's more than one. You've got to be kidding me, you can really see. it's from oh you can actually see it from this angle down here there's a bent pin there and there's like four of them here can you see them? can you see those four?
You can really see it from my angle if we trade places, yeah. look at that wow, okay kid, we were live streaming this, I didn't do anything, I swear, I didn't do anything, um, okay, yeah, anyway, it's clearly a bad plug, um, so a couple of More things we can see, we can see the magnitude of this copper plate. they're using to diffuse that heat that's pretty impressive and then we also took a look at the CPU itself so when Intel was doing a demo the word on the street was that they were just using some sort of tuned

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platinum 8176 or 8180s, which have 28

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s, fit in this socket and they were simply swapped manually to have an unlocked multiplier.
Well now we have a specialized chip so I don't actually remember all the exact speeds and it's powered from the top of my head so I'm going to cheat and look at my phone but basically this is the

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w w is for the workstation 3175 3.8 actually with all cores active, although that's not with avx2 workloads. It has a total of 38 and a half megs of level 3 cash. 28 megs of level 2. the cash is ridiculous and the tdp is 255 watts and of course we can expect it to go up a lot more with overclocking so let's Go ahead, let's put this aside for now, we're definitely not going to drop it, so I did.
I sent an email asking nicely for a replacement for my xeon 8180 that I dropped and no one responded so it seems like there's a good chance I'll have to use engineering samples or buy one that sucks because it's even more expensive than this one of all So that CPU isn't really going to stand out much to anyone who's been watching the saga that's been six workstations one CPU what's really special is that it can be overclocked, okay we can go ahead and take out this board now, that It gives us a very good idea of ​​the scale of this.
One thing I will really say that I like about the gigabyte solution here is that they have gone ahead and implemented the full seven pci express. slots instead of just four double spaced like Asus has done on their board, but unfortunately I have no idea if I were to go and reinstall this CPU if this would work, so if you had some project in mind that required a lot of pci express slots then maybe you can't even do them, that's a little frustrating, so let's go ahead and stay here. I almost had the wrong one. Now let's turn our attention to this refrigerator.
I'm going to go ahead and get it out there, but the first thing that stood out was that they had to use this copper plate to increase its effective size just to be able to cool a CPU of that magnitude. The second thing was the fans they are using. So these ones here I can't really tell the brand, but they look like they're like corduroy flows or deltas or something, you can tell just by Oops, you can tell just by the plastics they use that they're designed. be high revving fans because again, that's something that a lot of people might not realize.
Something that many people don't know is that the force on a fan as it spins is actually significant enough that even on a lightweight desk fan like one from Noctua, the blades will actually spread and flatten significantly while on. operation and that can affect your tolerances, um, so if you're trying to say, for example, what happened with the last noctua fan if we're trying to get the blades very close to the outside of the hub so we don't have that wasted air space there, it can be really difficult and it also means that if you are building a high performance, high rpm fan, you have to take that into account even more because it will spin faster which will exacerbate the problem, so the third thing I noticed about it, so I say they are high performance fans, so the third thing I noticed about it, oh boy, uh.
Do you have scissors, Anthony, by any chance, scissors or a oh, I have a knife? Okay, I'll just use my knife. Where did my knife go? Hey David. Do you know where the knife is? Are you gesturing towards him or are you just stabilizing yourself? Are you amazed right now? You know, okay, I'll grab another knife, yeah, now there's a knife missing around here somewhere, that's always good, okay, let's free this, okay, just a second, here we go. The third thing I noticed is that In addition to being a thicker than standard radiator, typical desktop cooling solutions will be slim style radiators, that's what we called them, I guess not in addition to being thicker, this is a radiator with an extremely high number of fins, so what taller fins?
The count is to see that you have copper tubes that allow the water to go from here, we go from the entrance to the bottom, so half of this is hot water that goes down and the other half is cold water that goes up and obviously there is no a clear division between hot and cold water and in reality everything is almost the same temperature at the speed at which the water moves in a circuit like this, but basically it means that half of these tubes carry this water downwards and the another half carry Take them to the outlet up here, so what the fin count means is that they're usually aluminum fins, but these are copper or aluminum.
I saw one that was scratched. Wow, these are copper fins. This is a really nice radiator. It's like a ball and it's economical. Uh, normally you have brass on the tubes and tanks and then aluminum on the fins, but you can see the copper color here. These are copper fins anyway so you can have these double triangles like they've been done here or you can just have singles and when you have a less dense arrangement of fins it's more optimized for lower static pressure and lower fans. rpm, so you go and put low output fans, it will actually perform better than if you put those fans on a thick one like this and similarly, if you take one with a high fin count like this and put it with those low output fans performance, it will suffocate and can't push the air, so you need to pair a high density high fin.
It features radiators with high performance fans and then vice versa to get the best experience either way so yeah this is one crazy fucking water cooler and again they clearly didn't think it was enough so we've gone as far as to tear the whole thing down this, I guess now is the time to rebuild it and then maybe, as if you didn't know, turn it on, run some cinebench, do a blender test or whatever you guys want. I mean, it's your live stream, so ah, I'm so sorry, here we go. Okay, I have to clear some space here.
The amount of space a build like this takes up is significantly more than I'm used to. because, like the mother, the components are also big, so this is our rog dominus extreme. It's still untested, which is exactly what I think Intel was probably trying to avoid when they sent us a complete system instead of letting us build it. we do it ourselves, but you know, in theory, it should be fine and, wow, that's fancy, it comes with this nice little foam, you know, effectively a dyno station underneath, so I can go ahead and put that's on top of the box.
It is very feature heavy. very similar to the other one so you have 224 pins it's even more yes you have even more cpu power connectors two eight pin eps and then on each side and then an additional six pin pci express although it could be that , again, those are for the graphics slots somehow no, no, I don't think so because they have an easy plug down here, they have six additional pins down here that I think are probably going to be for these Guys, um, yeah, their USB 3. Yeah, you know who cares, let's go ahead and build this thing.
There is nowhere to put anything. Okay, as far as accessories go, nothing is labeled. Thank you to your. I mean, this whole platform is not really intended for theCPU reviews before we started using Blender regularly, so I literally haven't touched it in a couple of years as a reference point. but stay tuned because this isn't the last time you'll see it, it's just us having fun getting it out of the box, but Anthony will be working on a full review of this, trying to figure it out. What is it? What is your place in the market?
If someone actually bought this, they'll have a really interesting point of comparison. Our friends at Puget uh Puget Systems sent us what the 9990xe is, yeah, so it's really a unique CPU that can only be obtained through what's called an auction process, so there's no such thing as just calling your rep at Tech Data or Cynics or Angular Micro or whatever and just say I'll have an Intel 9980xe who only sells them sporadically. they'll just have like and Back like this thing, turbos at five gigahertz, just like the eight core processors on the consumer platform, they like 14 cores six and eight courses, very interesting, um, I don't know what, you know what it is the turbo all cores in that thing?
I don't remember it either, but it was mind-blowingly high, so we'll compare it to that too, mainly out of curiosity, since neither of these are something normal people can achieve, either because they don't have access to an Intel auction or if it's Because you don't have five thousand dollars for a CPU and motherboard combination, I can give you a sort of preview of the conclusion. This is actually funny. Do you know what I do? I'm going to do my best to come to the exact conclusion: It's a completely unique product for those who need the best of the best in performance on a handful of unusual workloads or who need more single-threaded performance and many cores of those that are offered. by Intel's existing server or workstation products;
However, if you are a regular desktop user or even a light to mid-weight workstation user, it is very unlikely that the w3195 x, whatever they call it, will give you any additional value, so I really recommend following with something else, that sounds good, okay, cool, well Threadripper's price-performance will look pretty good, yeah, even with what I thought were obscenely expensive 500 motherboards, how many people are seeing this mess? You are like you. The guys are soldiers at this point because this has been agonizing, agonizing all around, so many things were painful to see and experience, here we go, okay, and almost five minutes and 13 seconds, okay, we're done five minutes, 13 seconds, wait, yeah, why is it purple?
I loaded it. from the network directly messed things up a bit, okay, so this is a minute and a half faster than the 9980xe, which was the previous top of the heap from Intel, so I think that's pretty much the end of this marathon broadcast. thank you all for watching, if you didn't like it you can hit that button, but if you liked it, hit like, subscribe or maybe consider checking out where to buy the stuff we featured in the link in the video description. Also below is our merch shop which has cool shirts like this and we'll have this cool hoodie later and our community forum which you should totally join, go ahead and cut it, it would do it when you least expect it.

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