Michael McDonald: The Voice That Defined a Generation
Mar 13, 2024Hello everyone, I am Rick Battle and today's episode that I speak with Michael McDonald Now, is there anyone with a more recognizable
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than Michael McDonald between his keyboard skills and their composition of these things together have had an undeniable impact on the popular music of their innovative work with the Dubie Dubie brothers to their brilliant solo career to their significant contribution Artists like Stey Dan and Cristiáeros McDonald's Brothers? Interview Michael Welcome Thank you Rick Great to be here Tell me about your good education. Quite popular in the city of St Louis Uh, like the guy you know here, I never saw my dad take a drink of alcohol, but he loved to go to the bars and sing with his pianist friends, and he, and he, always assigns me more than I didn't know that if I had a little that made me take dinner.I I my Earliest Memories of My Dad Were From Behind Watching Him and His Big Ears at The Microphone Singing and I Would Sit Back Behind The Piano Player On The Window Sill Uh and With My Shirley Temple and and My Dad Would Be Singing and People Would You Know How People Really Enjoyed His Voice and It Meant A Lot To Them To To Hear Song Songs and My Dad Was A Not Just A GOOD SINGER BUT HE HE SEEMED TO BE ABLE TO UH PUT A SANG OVER YOU KNOW AND WHAT KIND OF MUSIC WAS SINGING WAS ABOUT ALL WHAT YOU KNOW?
Yes, that was that was my first beginning and I had about five o And I love and love and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it, and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it, and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it, and I love it and I love it, and I love it and I love it and I love it and I love it, I love it, and I love it and I love it, and I love it and I love it and I love it.
She grew up and looked at me like what you know and laughed, you know, so she knows what key she could sing and touch this little introduction and this cannot be lost the initial note and nodded and began to sing the song for everything that was worth and I think I think I had heard it in a Mario Alonzo 78 record in my house, once I knew that once I learned to work. Once again, and, so I knew every word of the song you know and only sung my heart and when the audience was made, there was a fraction of a second in which they only saw an absolute disbelief not because it was good, but only the view of a 5 -year -old girl singing the UH song was hilarious and that it exploded in laughter and began to applaud you to know of a kindness and thought that I thought I really thought that I really thought that I thought I really thought that I thought I really thought that Listening to me sing, so you would say that your parents were really encouraging in terms of music that our house was our house was a house full of music my parents all the time, both my mother could not carry a melody uh God blessings, but she knew it, you know, since, in one time.
Back from the war, you know that we had been outside World War II, what maybe 10 years know and that I was in the Pacific and I think that at that time for him it was a great part of what we now call PTS SD was only to continue moving and you know that he always had one foot through the door that you know my old man and so I, as a child, always think of my childhood and with my dad I knew that I knew that I knew it, since I knew that I knew it, since I know that I know it, and I know it, since I knew that I know it, since I knew that I know it, since I know it, since I know it, since I know I is going.
I wanted to know if I could go, you know and, so that he would take me to these places with him? Would they say that they would have had similar
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s in a way that yes, since you know? And my dad was also a tenor when you sing Hello, are you always singing with a complete voice? Or there is a voice of Falsette that is more than a voice of the head, there is more voice in the head for me, it is not clearly a falsity, but it is more than a voice of the head. Uh Mitch Ryder and James Brown and I wanted to sing like Ray Charles.I wanted to be like all those types that were a kind of UH you know that Gospel Screamers singers You know and uh uh, uh, you know that I really did not have the vocal resistance to do and I, and what I learned more from these boys, the same? Singers from the past and the gospel singers who know as a voice a voice of the head that develop that they know that to climb to the upper ranges and, do you know that I think that for most of us who do not develop that we use ourselves very early, yes, I have heard that I have heard people burn their falsity from the false from the complete voice in a record?
Falseto, so I leaned more about that voice of the head, you know that I would like to take a second to talk to you about this channel, or do not create 57% of the people who look here regularly are not subscribed, so I encourage you to encourage you My dad determined that I must take shouts of my dream. With him obtaining an extra night that with any real interest in me playing the UH piano and, in fact, my mother already suspected from the beginning because we did not have a piano, so well why, in hell, I was going to piano, but you know that a piano found him and his friend brought him to the house and at home and that I still remembered that it was like this great single.
The camera and I followed him and hit him with the metal of the Republic with two fingers, my father was hitting me that he told me that I left the road and you know that, if it was a typical Bedm in our house, but it was exciting, you know and that somehow they put me from below, and that I spent the next few years, do you never? Keys if I have to know, but I never had that great interest in being a piano a classic piano, yes or even a jazz musician or anything that I liked pop music and I like to choose songs from the radio and most of what I knew about the piano, I learned to memorize the songs that I really did not real I will always know.
In my self, you know that my acuum as a pianist, do you read everything right? I cannot read slowly, you know that I can look at a musical piece and eventually discover what is there, but you know if you had any other instrument in the house that anyone who touched, yes, my grandmother had given me a prohibition of tenor of a beautiful old Gibson to have, that it was a banjo, what you know, you know that the same ban, you do not know the ban, you know what? Gibson or you know gold and it was probably in the 20s that you know and it was my grandfather's banjo, so I got my book from Melb, you knew and learned some chords and I started a support from my father, what he sang?
Musical experience until I ventured with some children in the neighborhood and I started a band that you know well, and what was that band called at the beginning was Mike and the majestic for which Mike and the majesty have no idea that all of us who live in a blockade of the other. And the rock and roll music and you know strangely that they sounded quite similar, and we rehearsed those three songs for hours, you know that MH and the poor, the poor mother of our drummer, you had to listen to that, since I finally knew that she called a PA system. microphone and both guitars through this amplifier and with a chord and you know that he continued hunting and, and our drummer, you only know that he was the only one who really had a complete set of drums that you know that the rest of the rest of us was pretending it and I was playing a class of the class he had done in the store's class and that he was in the border of the border of the border of the northern border The store's class and so it was in the store's class class and so it was in the north of the class of the class and so he was in the service, and so he was in the class of the class and so it was.
Guitar, you know yourself, so you know that this is how we start, you know and eventually, another guy joined our band, that I really had some teams, so we now had two amplifiers and you know that we left from there, do you know when it was the first time you made a recording that really were in a recording studio when I went in a group we called the engraved Shans? Uh Music Land Usa was a stamp in St Louis and it was a study in St. Louis in what year they would have been what it would have been, would it say that would have been 66 something like that and then the first time we recorded an album with the idea of putting the album that is serious that it is serious a idea that you know that the seal was for the Seal Arch Records and another group called of the Rays in the team of the Rays Remunte de Remio to what was always for the seal that Rement was always a group?
Backrack and and Uh we cut it into this type's house, Nick Charles was called, he was a producer together, he copied it with a guy called UH Steve Cropper Ok and Uh Steve was young, but he was already famous and already knew that a name was made and with the stack tales, yes, and this label was a subsidiary of STA fol in Memphis ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok Steve, steve.
And as fate would have, it was the horns of Memphis who put the horns in our incredible record and I would later be on tour with them with the Dubie Roers that you know, but yes, yes, it was we, we, we, we had an action, if we had any track at the R&B local station, did I like the study? What was happening, you know that I want to say that you really had no great interest in what was happening around me. I assumed that you know I am a singer, so I sing, and this will be live or you would take more or less live, you take them live.
For Steely Dan Well i i was in playing with with pretty a lot Those gigs where the radio stations were on board and advertised the gigs i was The university cities in the west, so we begin to travel enough to these small university cities and, do we begin to build some follow -up? Potential to play these universities and with these bands and you know that you know and I knew that they were then had their eyes. Sets, since we know that we, we know that we play, and we know that we like other. Playing that night and, therefore, he was never too demanding, but very traveling and you know that we spend a lot of time in our Econoline Uh van, one of us lying on the top of the march for approximately 100 miles, and never having the right stickers that you never know that you know that the tires were bald.
The guy looked at him, looked at us and he says that there is no oil in the engine that we are going, that we look at each other, you know that you know, you once changed the oil did not, no, you do not have to do that it comes from the factory with any oil that had in it and um, so we learned a little about mechanics 101 and how And do not have to play with music and do not have to simply having to make the music and not have to do that we only have to do that we only have to simply having to have to play in music and do not have to simply having to do that we just have to only have to music and do not have to simply having to do that we just have to simply have to have to do the music, and we do not have to simply having to do that we just have to only music and do not have to simply.
Know that most of us had abandoned from high school and we were only following the music business, whatever it has taken us, which you know well, so Irving Aoff how does this take into account? We saw that you know Wow, you have to California, where you are going to make albums and there is a record business beyond what we do and know, so heHe took and recorded some demonstrations with us, do you know basically recording songs that we play in the clubs you know and? Rick Gerard, who grew up in Champagne in Arana on a farm, was a producer at that time with RCA, who had some success with the calista of the Pillow Jeffon Airplane and Uh Jose Feliciano's Light My Fire Album Harry Nelson's Ariel Ballet Record, produced all those records, so I was a big fan of them and listened The United States and asked the United States and sent me a big fan of those who sent me Red.
A contract and Uh Irving looked at him and said that he would not sign that you know that it is not a good contract that you expect, you will have where you want to go, you know that you do not sign the first piece of paper that someone puts in front of you, of course, I did not hear that because I thought this is my only opportunity. From the registration of the UH executives in RCA at that time and I go, you know that you have advised me that we cling to my publication, so I would like to keep my publication out of this treatment that you do not know why you do not know that I was signing my first born on everything you know that the guy goes, well.
You know and I thought this is my only photo to make a record, so I did it, you know it and you know that fortune would do it, they discarded the album before it was released and the rest was history, but the wonderful thing was that Rick Chard used me in all his sessions at the time to keep my They did what they did to me. He for all his sessions and he always put me in the session that I did not have to be in that session that you know and began to meet guys like Michael L Mari and then the players of the real session in Los Angeles at that time and UH Uh and it was a great education, since I would not have obtained any other way in which you know, and at least I start learning the label of playing in the studio with other music and what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was what was It was what was what was what it was.
I know one of the two three, the first on the bridge, it is known that you know and it is as if we were what we were, was it a different world of delicacy and you know and skills and skills you know, so I opened my eyes quite a lot? From a mind of quantity more than quality at that time you know that I wanted to write as many songs as I could know, so we distilled what I had up to 12 songs and recorded them and saved them any expense, I mean that it was orchestras, the violins singers, the background singers.
As if not, I have had or never had or never, since you really know, but as I say they dropped me from the seal before the album came out, but I, that was good, yes, I think that in retrospect it was a blessing for everyone, so how did I start to enter all these great records like these good? That played the club's scene and played, you know that she was one of those people who knew where to get the PA and knew where to get the concerts and you know, so I know that I attached very quickly, and, suddenly, I was working, and I was meeting other types and we played many clubs in the valley that you know then and I was really working through it, I met other boys and that we played many clubs in the valley in the valley.
The boys with whom I had already been doing sessions with all had had friends in common and huh, but I started going to the club's scene a little more, you know, and through it and some of the associations that I made play clubs and it was really only one of those casual ones, I remember that she had come to me and you told me that you have a concert during Christmas, it is a universal show for the universal television program and that comes to me. I gave myself and said yes, of course you know, so I was going to organize this whole concert and you know we were going to rehearse and you know that she would get everything that you know the musicians who was aboard this, but at least a couple of months at least before the concert happened, she had the audition opportunity with Harry James Orchestra in Los Vegas, who has to do once a daughter.
So, then you know that I wanted to do that audition and said that I look that I am going to leave this concert in your lap and leaves, but I know you cannot procrasty, you know that you know that you have to take care of what you have to do much to do to do the team, you have to do the songs that do to all the musicians who have to find the musicians that you must readjust the band that you have to be ready to do this. I have it, you know approximately one week before the concert, I have nothing to know, and I am sitting in my apartment in my apartment, you know that he will kill me.
That's all we have, he goes, he leaves, he calms down, leaves. I know that some cats are doing an album project at this time and they work typically from 10:00 in the morning to 600 and then call it, they know they don't work at night? This concert does not earn that kind of money you know and he leaves, they do not need the money that goes, they will do it only for fun, you probably know and my brother finally can probably find us the concert that we need to know and all that and all that seemed to me to be Andy who possesses the power station or knows the music that you know everything you know in minutes that you know where it seemed that it seemed to me to snatch.
That you know in minutes. Now that there is no way that this happens, you know that this is too easy, you know, but you know that I said well how these boys rehearse and he leaves Mike, these guys do not need to rehearse. I can't play the guitar on the bass, I am on the piano and another type came and sat on the keyboards and his name was David Paige, so, do you know that I couldn't have gone better? I'm fine, so I call the number, it's Jeff who hadn't seen him in a year that you know from that concert and leaves, hey, a man uh this is uh, we are finally joining it.
I can sing some background and I said that I was sure that I am thinking that I have to go to school in his material and that I had done about half of the auditions that once hired me, they never hired me, so and that is with me learning their songs, correctly, so I will learn their things that you know and lead me to modern music and these boys help me download my pian That Donald begins to show me these songs and what he likes to play in the piano and the background parts, and so that in some miraculous they are the breads and the fish, a moment at the time.
Time in me, you know, and I think that at one point I looked at Jeff and he is G, you know, but I have no idea if they hired me or if they were going to say yes, yes, you know that you know, so you are playing things like Campy's emotion and the logic of Pretzel that you are learning in my life that you know for them, so I am learning these things and that we do it and we are running it the next day and that we present it the next day and that we present it in the next day, You know, and I am finding it so, and for the third day, what I am on the third day, what I am at the same time, what I am on the third day.
From the essay, I am thinking that I am in the band you know and, uh, we go to the road you know through the tours of the United States and start on the east coast and play and, and I learned very fast, that Ste Dan had this that you know that regional followers on the east coast, do you know how a type of equipment at home? He knows who was in the band this band live, it was the original alignment of Jimmy Hodder in the Denny Díaz battery on the guitar, yes, Walter in the Lower Donald on the keyboards Uh Royce Jones Jones percussion and Sang Beautiful Voice and I, I, in Teculados, Jeff Baro in the battery and that random to an event.
I do not know God a few months later or a month more or less later, I am back at home and discovered that in a couple of weeks the band had broken everyone was fired and, huh, I think I was in Denny Díaz's house when the news came up and learned of Donald Walter, you know that the band knows that they dislike me and I am sitting there with Denny and I was talking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking, since it was speaking.
That goes, what is going, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what goes, what leaves, whatever it leaves, whatever you leave. These guys should do to progress from where they are now you know the same as you really and there, you have finished it as soon as it started and I am back in the Trojan room in Glendale playing or do it again for a couple of fuses that you know in the bar um, I was also playing some Dobie Brothers songs such as listening to the music and the long train that is running with the band SP you To music with the studio with Steey Dan and Calle and Te Calle y Calle.
A lot that you sang in some songs in Katie Lied yes, yes, Katie lied and even put my photo on the album that I thought it was terribly pleasant, you know, but you, and it was a wonderful experience, but it was during that moment that Jeff Jeff Baxter was on the road that was trying to put the record that anyone could be on the way that is working. His hotel room and meet them in the next city you know, so he was on the road, I think that for two years in a row, you know and in that period of time, when I returned to Trojan's room, he says and says hey, what are you doing?
Some of the voices and you know Uh Wow, can you find us in New Orleans? Surely I left tomorrow, you know that I said that I really do not have enough money to get or he is going, ah. I knew that I knew that two of them know for playing them in clubs that you know and, so, again, do you know what we rehearse, that it was probably a two -hour show in two days and I had small pieces of paper in my entire keyboard from my keyboard? Uh, my dad lived in New Orleans at that time and when we found the place where it was a great hockey sand that you know and we are looking for the door of the stage, the back door behind the stage you know from the place and with a round building that is a bit difficult because the right thing you know that the back door knows that I final Check and the day he gave me the last time he gave me the last time the check, and we do it.
The game was like in a bowling alley in East St Louis, you already know or Belleville Illinois or something like that, so all this was all for him and he just looks around as if someone were paying all these people to do everything is time to be that you know to see my father over the years, you know that he knows that one of my last years of training growing, he did not live at home with us and Another family, so, so we got in touch and we were always close, but it was at a distance, since when I felt strangely that it did not surprise me, which was so surprise, which was so surprise.
We played smaller places and we had a lot of fun and the crowds were great, but these boys played like 10,000 people who knew 15,000 people who I remember that I got on the stage to sit with him in the lights of the house that did not know anyone who it was, so it was not as if you were as if you were giving something far away that you know and that we were cracking in these chairs and then to the band, and the lights sudden I went to go to go to hand and jumped with my hand and jumped with my hand and jumped with my hand and went out to go to hand and started and put on the height of the lights.
I Think it was Jesus Just All Right With Me The Drum Intro and The Crowd Went Up You Know and It Was Like A Roar That You Know It Took Me By Surprise My Dad Too and This Was A Whole Another Experience Would Know Cerainly So By The Time He Left That Night He was Going Back To New Orleans and I Was Going On With The Band I Felt Like You Know Well Maybe Uh Maybe At Least He Doesn't Think This was all for not you know i think Always Telling you know me, look, you have to get your ged, you know that you know that you want to get your high school diploma because you know this is great for now, but you know you know that you never know it is you, so I think I thought that maybe I, maybe I, that it is a real concert and you know that you know that you really have a chance to do something with all this you know Tyrant.
San Francisco rehearsed the band So You Wish you don't see the house tonight listening to records and he had just bought a four -track recorder well, so he goes, do you want to leave something very sure that everything I could think was about this little song that I had written a small melody that I had written and I know that we left it and had some words and you started saying that I was having a ball engineering and everything we know we do not know that we do not know that we do not know that we do not know that we do not know that we do not know that we do not know.
What did we do what we did this? Uh, it was a song called The Lose and End Yeah Yeah Yeah, which wasThe first song I cut with the Doie Br, the most unlikely song in the world that the Do Br could do, you already know, but Ted Tyran played Ted for Ted and Temp Ted liked it, yes, and UH and Pat had already put an error in Ted. Tom returned for the record, but Pat, you know, I wanted to see if Ted could know how to get involved in the album, you know that I was totally surprised by all this and, of course, Jeff was my initial defender with everything and everything Do you know?
Registration and the next thing you know is that there is another album and you have to start writing anything you can find, you know and? I could listen to the introduction in my head and I really didn't know what it was because I until I got to a piano and unleashed the Cour, yes, I didn't even know if it really worked, but I remember that I thought it was that I could listen to it as an gospel and that I thought I knew that I was going to cut a song of the song and the song of the song of the song that I knew if I knew if I were to cut a song of the song of the song of the song of the song of the song of the song of the song of the song I knew that if I did a song in a song of the song.
The rhythm and uh section really do it like what you know an gospel, but it was the only thing that I really had in ling But that it was a type of rock, but it was a type of rock, but it was a kind of a kind of a kind of rock, but it was a kind of a kind of a kind of rock, but it was a kind of a kind of a kind of rock, but that was a kind of a kind of a kind of rock, but that was a type of rock, but it was a type of rock, but it was a kind of a kind of a kind of rock.
That Pat and I wrote together and started putting this Tommy had a song and I think Tyran even had a song on that album that we just started to build as many things as we could, do you know to find a 10 songs album? A 12 songs album. Street the street, what do I hear when I hear that it is a live shot with an exaggerated voice? Do I remember singing that life? I think that I probably remind my voice later, you know that many times we tried that we always had to sing some kind of guide track that we know or any of us when we were doing our songs that you know just to follow a trace where you know how you know, how?
I have been the tyrant who knows that he came up with, Pat and Uh Jeff, all came up with his own parts and I would only touch the song for him and we could discuss what could happen here what could happen there, but then do he do it? G and then D, then, the finge falls to F there, did they say what those chords are because it is really good, I think once they learned it, was it quite explosive? Where they could know that they join and, and that is more or less the way we work, you know, it was not like you, none of us know there, you know in the later years, Je Poor Jeff and poor Keith, you know that they know they would run into the heads because I would start trying to tell them what to touch well, since you know and then you know that you only have returns.
You know Down Down Like and everyone, so they struggle for a while, we are simply a type of their, and you know that you would know what the shape of the song is and what the words was going to be, but, more, in the beginning, I left the boys to tell me which one should be that they know, but I would start with a demonstration of the song that only play for them and that they sing in which they feel in which they feel in which they feel Since they are sitting at everyone in which they feel, since they are sitting.
When doing this in a rehearsal space, first he keeps you going, I recorded in the garage of Jeff first with him, everything he had was this little shit piano, it was like a casio or something well and had this piano sound of God, what do we like? Uh, the kind of things you would buy from your 5 -year -old son just to learn to play the piano in which you know and use it on the album because it sounded like the demonstration you know well most of the things that were probably reproduced during a live shot. Bold, you know how these, probably something or that thing behind you there among us, you know, and those do notable job when you separate, you know what comes out of UH, well, the amplifiers that we would put in these iso iso iso stands, which you know the small small rooms where you could do a vowel and many times as if they were as if you were not playing if I were not playing in the position and The position and that I sing to the voice.
That is the UH voice, it will be isolated enough of all other instruments, but because I touched all things, it was usually a microphone like this and a type of confusion on the keyboard to prevent what was out in the room to occur, so this could have been a more important and mostly possible tone. In my headphones, that's fine, you don't know in the room that you know you would make some shots of a song like this, for example, yes, typically the drummer would be in the ISO stand so that its battery would not bleed and everything, but yes, but yes.
Sound as correct, yes, that track sounds more or less exactly as you thought that for yourself, this sounds surprising, this is going to be a great success, no, but you know that I think there was always a time when you were recording where if something sounded as if it really worked, yes, it was that feeling that you would arrive as an instinct, what do you like? I was in the great speakers, yes, and suddenly you know what the introduction enters and yore Bobby Lin and I was standing by my side and I am listening to it and I could see him looking at me as you know and I think it was he who says that it sounds good, you know and left, yes, yes, it's great, so you know, so you know we had that moment we had that moment we had that we had that we had.
I, and that we replace me and that I, when we have done it, and did I? I was playing and singing the song. There was something about the connection between singing and touching it, yes, that was always better than I could do when I was standing in the microphone singing to the song Di Ted knew that, oh this, that sounds surprising, yes, Ted was always a kind of that it was always always on the business that I mean that I did not know that Ted sat down, this is great We know that it is fine here, and that now we know that now we know that it is fine here, and we know it.
Uh, you know, and if he liked something that, in general, it was the most sign that you liked, you know that, what we have, we obtained now, you know that you wanted what you obtained what you have to solve it, and you know that you know that the corrections are done and then, what is what is the following? In the study that you know, even if you would not have known it because we live in the studies of a friend you know, you know that most of the dream I had in those years was on the floor of Amigo Studios that you know we were always trying to get the tracks quickly, so we could get as many as we could in a day that you know and, therefore.
Soon along the way, you know, so moving on the type of added type in the Dobie brothers to have the song of the title on this album and really a beautiful, I would say that a radical change in the sound of the good band, do you know that it has always been a fun theme for me because? From the key instruments such as the key, like Blackwater, which was something like a thing of dron bl knows that yes, tim of rag, even you know things about Um Tommy, which was always very rock, but also R&B you know that he had to always, you always know to horcated in that line between the rhythm and the blues and the rock and rock and the roll you know, since, by virtue of writing in a guitar He had many things with that, but and his focus, and his focal, and his focal, and his focal, and his focal, and the most focal.
R&B although you know that I was writing and singing these rock songs, so you would say that you were a bit added, it was just another evolution of a band that always exercised its eclectic pension for the eclectic collections of the songs of any album that you know was also the thing in the days of most of the days you heard in the 70s. Do you know any rock that you know that the bands at that time? Do not do that, yes, you know and there is always that time in the history of the recording where you know, fall again in which you do not know that nobody wants to cross the street to listen to you expand your repertoire.
Divorce and you know that you know that the bands have to evolve to grow, you know that I do not know, you do not know that the stones contradict that, but the beatles that you know, but many bands of the bands that you know seemed to be a growing and growing pain that you know that the boys come and go and go to the reform of the bands and that you know and take the musicals of the paths, but you know that the boys are. That the boys are the boys, those who are the boys, those who are the bands and those who know that the industry, and those that make the boys.
You know that trying to stay with your audience, you know it occurred to me that Ted Templeman produced minute by minute UM and then Van Halen's first album in the same year that he played the demonstration he got from them, goes, do you have to listen to these boys and us and that it was like a pretty woman and what was Eddie, of course? And you know, but it was as if they came out of nowhere, you know they were children like you know that they went out in a music store and Passadena and played concerts, of course, you know and doing what they did, but they were very young who know that the very young guys like Ted Ted Teed were really Ecoleman.
Today you also know that I doubt that I like many people to go, oh everything sounds the same, I don't think so, and there is nothing good out there, I don't think I think, so I think there is something remarkably great and inventive, and huh new music, and when I say that the new, I mean it is very different. That you know that there are things there that I recognize and I and and they know them, but it is so harmonically inventively and melodically intriguing and inventive, but undoubtedly beautiful, it is not as if you have to listen and pass it, that is strange, how is it that? with sum of the early jazz acts like when jazz got very progressive you know they you know twisted melody and they they reset uh the approach to melody and chords and uh it was Lot of these Bands Like Like Uh Like Thue Bands I Mention You Know UH It's Not That what they're doing is unfamiliar it's just the way they are there is so unique and so uh interest and and and contemporary in their own sense, one of the people who interviewed Christopher Cross that you sing in his album in his album in his album Journey as the wind that told the story you were in the same studio when they were working on that and I mean, I remember any of this, remember that I remember quite vivid?
So I felt that I don't know what I am doing here, you know, just forgive me if I play something stupid, you know, and huh, that sounds like something I would say, yes, no, you don't know, but it was always very, you know that they encourage you know that I have looked, is it how you know and here, but here is producing records? For study B, I am recording this new child and it is UH, there are some things that I only have a couple of lines that take us an hour, you know, and literally that is all that took or less, you know, but I went out and listened That was what it was, you know what it was what it was.
To make an album that you know and the things that all the tracks were really great, you know that they played for a man, he was like Wow, this really great, so Michael asked me that these funds and ride like the wind and, uh, that was the only thing we did that day, and it was that you already know quite fast and you know that you know the record on the radio that you know I was surprised that I want it to be what I want to be the one who did, what I made that it is the record of what makes the record of what surprises me that it is what I want it to be what makes it what is what makes it the record of what makes it the record of what surprises me that it is.
Part there, you probably spent what 30 minutes doing all that, maybe if that, yes, yes, Michael said um ok, this is what I mean, oh, I will only sing the response for But I, of course. Produce an album but you know it was a surprise toMe, you know that you have seen the sketch of you who is Rick Moranis, I think he reproduces from the study that goes to the studio and has done it, I am asleep to be free again and I have a path so long that it will advance so long going for the time we have done it, what you think is hilarious that it is not good, since you know that it is good, first, what I have done the first time I have gone from television.
They were on the road at that time and uh we returned to the study of Uh and he leaves, man, I have this pot that you will not believe because only we only have a couple of successes and it is like that, the lamb, I know and, so we are in his room and smoking a B, I received a couple of successes and literally had to go, I know that I have to return to my room and that I told him that I told him that I told him that I said that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told myself that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told myself that I told myself that I told me that I told me that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him that I told him to tell him that I told him that I told him?
I arrived in my room, somehow I got the key to the door and I entered and I always left my TV when I leave the room for the king, so this thing is in progress on television, you know that Sky looks really very familiar and in this parody that is in reproducing and I remember that I think that the guy is really familiar and you know that Rick Moranis that we saw like me doing this in the studies and I Cristié's song and that I am like what I am and that I am what I think, what I think, what I think, what I am.
I am having hallucinations, you know that these things were stronger than I think you know and then, as it developed, I realized that this is SECV and that it is a parody thanks to God why you know and what is hilarious, since you know that they made a commercial of the carpet that the DB brothers were also the soundtrack of the soundtrack and that they apologized to me in really. Jones Beach and he leaves, I just want to apologize for that, I did not say that any man I said that I had made me more mileage of that, oh my God, which is one of the best parodies of all time so fun, yes, now you had so much demand to sing the background voice, but your voice is so unique and stands out as much as in PEG, for example, they have to see those who have seen you.
It is difficult to know that Donald knew what he wanted to sing and when we started putting the first initial chord that would do it, which would double him, you know that the second part was very close harmonies, yes, and if I was really fighting to keep my part that you know why I was not used to singing so close to me, especially. So schoruse i'm not surre i can was play it on the piano and you woub just uh he'd say oh i want you do probably play it on the piano or or you know in any way he tought me that the singular part are the Next part and it was was have to hear that and singing against it and it was in that way i was.
They had not been for the recording of multiple clues. I don't think you knew well. When he asked you to come to sing in something like that, would you sing in several songs or would it be a song or how would they? expressed and how the rhythm of the part should be and you know and that duplicate with the duplication of the dubas of the two. Sometimes I sang with myself, you know, for a certain sound, but many times we sing as a group and UH, we all would only find our parts, and you would sit down to a microphone and do that typical, yes, many times, we sang in two microphones that you know and you would be like as many as three or four of us singing UH and two microphones and then UH and then we had duplication and then we did it.
Things you didn't use with Doobie Brothers Uh You know a song that fits that quite good story is a true love. You know that you do not let it interfere with your toie brothers next to being a brother and I felt the same personally in terms of the songs, you know that I had real love, I had cut a clue with the real love Jeff Baro on the battery Uh, I think I wrote the song with Patrick Henderson and Uh touched the keyboards in it. The best song I had at this time and we were preparing to enter with the quotas and um I remember thinking that you know that I really want to give my best foot for the band?
And, and, I suppose it became one of the singles on that next album, and I have always thought about it as a Dobie Brother song, you know well. I would like to know where I cut that track with those other guys was that I only like to listen to it, but alone, just to see my soldier. I wrote many things for that solo album with Ed Sanford and Uh Randy Goodam my brother -in -law Gray Walker You Know and Uh Harry Garfield and I wrote a song together UM. That tour and wow, and it was something interesting because UH, you know that the Beatles, always had that type of Janlia guitar that you know they really developed with the band about moment 6, do you know that there are really exclusive guitar riffs and she was a great influence on that interesting?
Lennon loved that album and loved that guitar, so you can almost listen to his affectation in every little thing and in some of the posterior Beetle songs that he knows that he reinvented himself, would you know how to reinvent that that would lick some of Beetle's songs, but that every time I put on? 7 If we had a 707 to make the tour and I would be walking with my suitcase and my guitar and trying to go down the hall and, suddenly, it would appear right in front of me with their guitar Lennon no, I never did it, I met George Harrison and a lovely boy, you meet and meet Paul and Ringo, and so incredibly normal people for what they passed, I know that I Types, these guys are simply good guys that you know you don't know what the Beatles are for God, do you know they hadn't really been?
The most album album for me Beatles 6 I Love Beetles 6 I Loved Uh The second album of the Beatles Beatles 65 does not answer that for me it was when its composition of songs began to be muscular, and they had so much bridges in all those songs that you know that the first album you also know that you only know that you only know that you only know that you only know they are really. Four-Piece Band You Know They The Really Lot in right and just started playing 16th notes and it was like you know it just had such Interviews I did of people who were musicians of the 60s, always talk about trying to do something new or examples that were bands that knew that the beatles were quite diverse, since they did all kinds of types of different types of everything, from accordions to the organs on their discs.
They refer to their albums. Strictly A Blues Band You Know Playing American Music Pretty Much That Uh Luckily For Them Most America Had Never Heard You Know Uh You Know It's All Over Now Was A A A Big R&B Record on R & B Radio MOS Lives till the stones Did it you know uh in fact the Valentinos Bobby Wac and His Brother I Think Had That Band Uh They had a Hit with it when the stones Came Outh with it and it kind of eclipseous his album, you know, but he said that I remember that they were so disappointed that these cats Song, you know that it is going and then I received my first check of I Gos, I am no longer so unhappy, since you know that they pass from that to this type of costumes and that you know a type of song of a type of theater rock.
Know well UH and UH and then they returned to such a funky type, you know, with a type of blues oriented to a different shot that was his with the sticky fingers and those albums that you know UH is a metamorphosis of a surprising uh that many of the bands passed through the example of Eric Clapton, since you know all the different incarnations of Ar. Pagan Falcon that I felt with the radio where the radio was forced to open because due to some other element that you know its ugly head that you know in the scene, such as the FM radio or the independent labels or whatever it is what stimulated these changes that probably would not have happened otherwise that you know UM and then to the industry and the main labels and the main labels always found a way to take Control and control and labels and the main labels and the main labels and the main labels and labels and the main labels always find a way to tear it into something that could make control and control and labels and the main labels and the main labels and the main labels and the main labels and labels and the main labels that are always with control and what they know and that you control and know it, and know it, and know it, and know it, and know it, That he knows and what he knows and what he knows and what he knows and knows it and knows it, and he knows it, and he knows it, and he knows it, and he knows it, and he knows it, and he knows it.
I only knew that that did not seem to do that, except that, in fact, they had a stable of artists who could never sell albums to speak, but that they were more proud to have those artists in their lists as proud as those artists had like any other probably more than prouuld that you know how Warners they know for me, I always admire that they always admired the hierarchical Those who were very small and that were the Issues and those who were very small and that the Ingos were and those who were very small and that were the ones that were very small and that the Issues were and those who were.
Those artists really began to sell many albums that you know they were more than happy to nurture and encourage artists Randy Newman that you know until Randy's short people did not really have a great album of the 40 Top 40, but everyone was doing their songs to all those who loved their songs, everyone loved Raich Cter Artists, since they know that the artists had known to those who artists had known to the artists, but know that the artists had known the artists. A & r people who were all producers like Ted who were, I suppose they would be personnel producers, yes, I think they created that the fusion of the ANR department and the production of the staff, Michael l Marian, being another, yes, yes, yes, since the types made the decisions about the artist and what the records are as a more independent department and what comes out to those who come out to those who come out as a department.
Listen to the albums that everyone produced and decided which one was an overwhelming and which one you know and I remember Michael l Maran telling me a minute by minute when all this is around them, listen to it all, yes, yes, these guys have finished, you know that and Ted was the lonely Ranger in that meeting that they did not tell that we did not tell them that we believe that we used to choose our own single or at least ted or at least. Do you know? Choosing the singles and that it was also unique and, while walking down the hall, they were full of platinum albums that were made by the department of A & R well, Michael told me that approximately minute by minute and that people are not like not, no, that is that it is not that these guys were more, yes and then Ted was like not, since we did not do it, since it was toto to have all the whole TOOK.
I really would do their job and let the artists be the same, he he, in some way, understood the value of what you know that if he was going to be the head of a label that wanted it to be creative, he wanted it to be a creative center for any artistic value that you could do of popular music, so when that became great success and that I did not say it, what I was It was all that knew what was a more important point. Surprised that we, I remember, when that album ended, I had a difficult mixture from minute by minute and there was a guy in which he trusted his opinion, Uhuh, he was crazy like crazy, but his story in the music business, you know he knew he knew good music when he heard it, so I called him, I said that I realized the mixtures of the new album.
So I met him and I'msitting in the parking lot. I play the whole album all the time that is listening to it very astreously very intensely, you know that the last finishes of the song, because that is the biggest piece that I have heard something like that and I remember that I thought that I thought I knew it is correct and when I have ruined the band and that I told myself again and I know again. I returned and it was the first year album that had come out and spent that time all the time, you only know how to eat rancid pizza and pots to smoke and live in the bathing gown of my bed, do you know in the total depression thinking that you know that I would go from time to time to go to golf in this field of three parts on the street?
You know that the registration had just published, he goes the things sold as if he did not know a large number, you know that UH 7,000 units the first week because it seems that he will sell 30,000 next week that we have orders that Cu Thing is really removing the single people who know that I am like what you know and that it was a total surprise for all of us, we know that we thought we were in Japan. Leaving the city again and while we were there, something that we were tired happened and you know that we have been tour Japan?
No, you know that Paul Mcarty discovered yes, yes, so we, did we break that was that you know and somehow? It will be number one next week and the album could even be number one also you know, so now you decide to break, you know and we are like what you know and then you know that we receive the call from Pat, which was a kind of consciousness of the band, so any of us, we know that we know that you know and at that moment you know and he says that what you think we know a number one that we cannot know so we do not know that we do not know.
Recorrido con este álbum número uno y vendiendo tres cuatro noches en Pine Knob y Universal Anfiteatre, fue todo esto sobre F, conoces las historias locas del negocio de la música que conoces antes de que estuviéramos tocando todos estos mercados terciarios porque el álbum antes no lo había hecho muy bien, así que no nos atrevemos a entrar en los principales mercados para tratar de tocar en todos los que no sabes, y no sabes, y no sabes, y no sabes, y You do not know, and you do not know that these UH places, which are big cities, and it turned out that it really worked in our favor because by the time we had this number one record that built all this demand that you know we had been very dear to all these secondary markets and all traveled from 60 to 100 miles to come to listen to us in the main cities again, so that everything really conspired to put the band that you know in another light that we never know that we never Commercial was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what was not what it was not.
We made decisions based on that because we didn't know anything about anyway, we just tried to make an album that we thought we could know how to get away and be well with you when you were on tour at that time, where would they go? How to make the legs in Europe and yes, we played in Europe several times and uh um that was correct when the punk scene began and it was all that we did not like what this is, since our audience is that you know that these like the reading festival played the reading and wow festival, you know that we were a rock band and we know that we do not know that if we have done as we know, we know that we know that we know that we know that we know that we know that we know that that we do not know that we would not have played that they have not carved that we did not do it.
Before us it was a kind of local band and they took the stage and were playing songs that played on the pub on the way, you know something like that, and YH, the first time I saw something like it was really rifle. I am next to the stage, it was John Mc and I and come on, O Chico, this is not good, you know, and we did not know what to expect, but we made you know that we were going through this set and we were not beaten with any mud or anything except uh, but I remember that that was like the first type of environments of this new type of movement in the audience and there was a diver of a ship of bands in the bill that was already listened to, That you know, you know, since you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, what you have heard.
Really being on the same page with them, you know, but there were some great bands we play with, I think that in that Geek Delgado, Lizzy was one of the bands and was it? Income If you obtained a successful record that was the UH that you know that were the three lemons in a row, you know that b bing you know, so you toured that record and hopes that they would be a success and that you would sell many records because you made a lot gifts we didn't do. We sign your name because it costs much more to do than these CD knows than vinyl and, uh, it is something different now and you know that we will have to reduce your you, so we have that the records really quickly were not the source of income and the tours have developed on the tour of the word and now that the records are like the party gifts and that makes them pass to them, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes They make a tour of which records are known.
Then, they discovered that they could pocket that money and then force the artist to leave and make the tours the main source of income, yes, well, you know that it has become a place where you know that somehow in some way, seriously, our records of record royalty They know, what you have done, what you have done, don't you know? Copies, yes, but the first two records that you know we were still recovering that you always know that it was always that the cat and mouse know it, what, but you know, have I ever thought I would ever do it?
Certainly, you know, but we do it because we don't know what else to do, you know what we have always done, you know that you could have imagined a future like this compared to you who meet in a room in a recording studio staining things and simply reproduce it live, but I couldn't imagine you know? I have tried to imagine many times entering Warner Brothers in the 70s with the UH Sting record that you know any breath you take and arbitrarily, we add a completely new letter and sing it to the ANR department, this, I think this should be our next single, what do you think they are as if someone had come and take me away?
I have to admit that people became really creative that you are so oblivious to any sensitivity that I had about writing a song and recording that song and Uh, you know, were I in a record store once and were playing what is happening? You know who wrote this song, she goes, who named someone artist, you know that I am not, I said that it is really a sea that you know who Marvin Gay is you. I said that he wrote that song and that you know that this song is a totally different lyrics with a completely different one, is that that was not who wrote and that it was a girl?
I know it is a perfect song, the song of anyone who thinks is a perfect song for me, was Teddy Rzo, who wrote the songs for Lanth and the Imperials that you know they hurt you so much that you know for me. An exercise and a beautiful application of theory that you know and, but I remember when I heard those songs and it is something like Smokey Robinson is a baby oo baby, it is a very simple song that you know, but there is something perfect in those songs, if it is the simplest in the world they are doing or is complex in their own nature, but it sounds natural is what is what makes me a perfect song like a hem hem.
No, not in pop music, you know that a type of ANR, do not do that you never do it, you know that they are going to make people fall from their cars that you know that you try to find out what just happened and it is not true, but because if you do well, it seems that the most natural thing in the world is simply that it is very suddenly and that people should Suddenly a jazz jazz jazz jazz, suddenly, there is a jazz cut, suddenly, suddenly, this, suddenly, suddenly, there is a jazz accessory, which is suddenly.
Uh, do you know that very sophisticated melodies do not mention the lyrics that you know were very sophisticated? His disposable songs probably now when I listen to that song on the radio, I am surprised at what is a great song that is, you know that it is not that it is not half an effort, it is that it is as ingenious as anything that Donald and Walter once wrote to many of the music of that time that really took me years. To appreciate some of those albums that I did not think much about when they first came out if you drive in your car and one of your songs appears, do you listen to it?
Probably, yes, when I am in a store and one of my songs comes, I try to pretend that I am not listening to people. California is going to my dentist or something and in the elevator Musac remembers Musac, of course, I remember thinking that if I ever listen to one of my songs in Musac, I will know that I did it, you know it and I think years later I heard minute by minute or something of the 10 strings you know in an elevator somewhere and I remember that, yes, you know, and there, do you only know what you know?
Marcos somehow knows and that was one of them that you know with all the successes you have had, would you say you never know what is going to be a success UH, yes? I, I believe from the album that could be a single, you know, there were times when I thought other things in the rat should be the alone and was wrong, you know and should I have heard other people when I was a producer? Do you know that I produced my wife that I always inherently elaborated the wrong single that you know and I would fight with the record company as I heard it to God and that you listen to me at the same time that it was wrong and I was wrong?
You know that the band members would fight for those things as with the Dubies or simply accept what I would say that it was always a type of group consensus and we all feel quite comfortable with what most thought you know UM, I think we still have that way so for the way, since it still affirms it very Very important, since we relax. You know that the band was huge when I joined them, yes, but I never saw those guys who tried to control the one that I know I remember that I had so desperately fearful that I was going to ruin the band that caused me a different reaction.
The skinny boy who entered the bar eh, I remember having thought that I know I have to make sure that this works correctly, this album, which reproduces it well and it turns out and sometimes we know and sometimes we know and sometimes you know and sometimes you know and sometimes you know it. The best thing in me sometimes, but those guys were remarkably indulgent, you know and poor Keith, I mean, when we did minute by minute, it was that it was my and only in the studio, you know, I think that Ted keeps me from you you know that you like it, as a psychotic episode, the boys, take you all, we are going to Keith there, it stays with my guy, so you do not With this type of Hyppy Thates, that you feel good, and you know and you know that you know and you know that you stay with this type of Hypnot.
I feel that you know yes and I tortured the poor guy for that, you know it and he was playing it all the time that you know that one of those shots was probably fine, but I was so neurotic that you know at that time, so he and I played and I did it and I was going to do it and I had a kind of funky sound on the piano, but I thought I will do it better piano later and I could not play later. Near you know what we were, I guess we were looking for you know, but you know at the end of that session and then all the boys came back and everyone put their parts on that drum and piano track of what you think it was difficult about getting the feeling of that feeling of that well, I think that when I was writing the song, I had this idea that this thing could feel almost hypnotic and later in that type of music, The branches and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and what you know, and you know it, and you know it.
The Groove was so Constant yaah that it kind of hypnotized you and there was submiss to feel like a blue i wanted it to feel like a dunk dunk you know and soand and not spew up and not slaw download with a shuffle you typically do kind of move to eithher side you know omit all the swing of what we could know that I want to play the beginning of the song here, I don't like it, I've been here, I've been here many times before girl, right? Just for the unbearable pain that I ask, so you even take it even listening to it, it takes you back to that, right?
As if we were, we had the feeling that if we could reach that kind of rock stity 68, it feels that the song could assume a certain personality that is the real take there, which is the keyboard and the battery drum pass, yes, and the pian That says what says what is such a complicated piano, it is not really if you know where one is, it is just a trick that you know and, uh, it is much simpler than it seems, you know? But do we use it to use it to establish the sensation of the song you know?
Song or all that of the UH that you always know from the first day that I heard Ray Charles Uh sing all these country songs that could have been mistakenly considered as a kind of simplistic compositions that you know, but you know three songs of chords or four songs of chords, which was Ray Charles's real genius and he, he knows, which leads to that level of commercialization and everything that makes a record of the audience. He sang a lyrics, you had the feeling that he never sang that song in the same way that it was a moment and this is what he was saying at that time and that it would never be the same, even if he sing it, so one of those songs that I always loved to listen and I don't know if I can do it in this piano, but you shake my hand, then do you give me?
I do not know one who thinks of you at night that I long to kiss your lips you long for time to take time for you, I am a friend, that's all I have been, you don't know me, I never met the honor making love, even if my heart will go out with love for you, fre and sh You know it. Much for doing thank you very much, my pleasure, it has really been fantastic to meet you here in person and to talk to you about your career, thank you very much, thank you very much for having me well, it is an envelope that was incredible, oh thanks man, thanks that it was beautiful that it never crosses me without hitting a few stinks, but you know that it is the real life that was really great.
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