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comic books that's how I learned to read being born to 16 year old mom and raised by my grandparents in Orangeburg we made you with the opportunities who created for ourselves because that's all we had my story is my story
Grahamstory is just comic I don't use a kook I think he's crazy his policies are really bad for the country he's not fit to be frozen the United States he's a race-baiting xenophobic religious bigot no I don't think he's a xenophobic race-baiting religious bigot I like the president I am like the happiest dude here's a guy who will say anything to stay in office
Grahamcan't lead us in any direction because he traded his moral compass for petty political gain I like it that was Jamie Harrison's video officially announcing his run to take on Republican Senator
Grahamfor Senate in 2020 and Jamie joins us now he's the former chairman of the South Carolina
Democratic Party and currently the Associated chairman of the DNC also with us former chief of staff to the d-triple-c and a former director of strategic communications for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign Adrienne Elrod she's an MSNBC contributor and author of how the write lost its mind also an MSNBC contributor Charlie Sykes is with us great to have you know great to have everybody here and Jamie you know and I'm dead serious you could actually use
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Lindseybecause say you're right he said the president was unfit that Duncan was unfit to be President said if Republicans nominated him they would be destroyed and they deserved it the medes is on and on nobody said harsher things about Donald Trump than
Grahamand Donald Trump said harsh things about
GrahamI we just released a video last night because
Lindseyand the Donald were continuing their love fest down in Orlando which basically had Donald Trump saying that
Grahamwasn't fit to be elected all catcher right you know we remember he gave out his phone number yeah exactly right we are going to allow Donald Trump and
Grahamto continue to have a conversation just keep going to keep going and I don't have to yeah I don't want you know it's gonna be fun I want
Graham1.0 to debate
Graham2.0 and people will see the hypocrisy he epitomizes why people don't like politics anymore charlie I mean you want to if there's one name on face one person that epitomizes the the Republican Party's complete capitulation to Donald Trump would be
LindseyI mean I've known
Lindseysince 94 liking personally it's hard not to like
Lindseypersonally but to hear what he said during the campaign and then to see him flip-flop and then attack anybody who says anything bad about the president United States that's...
like rich even by
Lindseystandards it is Marco Rubio by the way is giving him a run for his money here but you know you know we've talked a lot about capitulation and gutless Ness or you know lack of a spine on the part of Republicans but that's not the case with
Grahammore I'm convinced you know toady ISM is a choice this is somebody who worked alongside John McCain who understands who John McCain was and for a lot of us thought that he was going to go in that direction but he's chosen to align himself with Donald Trump even though he apparently has no not apparently he has no illusions who Donald Trump is so this is a choice that he has made sycophant C is a choice and I think it really is I mean that is gonna be
Graham's legacy Adrienne what do you make of Jamie's strategy as you sit right next to him even more so I mean what Trump has done among many things to the party is make Republicans look like cartoon characters I mean this feels more extreme in terms of the types of things that Republicans are able to stomach in support of their president well look at when you look at the surface of this and the way that you're literally using
Graham's were against him it seems to make sense I think I am more interested Jamie and actually getting digging into the numbers North knowing that South Carolina tends to be more of a Republican state how are you gonna register more voters what is your actual path in order to achieve...
victory so you know South Carolina is very similar to Georgia in this aspect there are a large number of unregistered african-american voters in the state about 150,000 and a large number of Latino voters about 50,000 there will be two point 1 million people who will vote in this next election so unregistered voters alone we have about 10% that could really change the electorate and so we are going to go in we're gonna register those voters we're gonna give them a reason to come out and vote and that's the real power yeah that's what Donald Trump was able to do give folks a reason who he felt that they felt that he was fighting for them we're gonna make sure that the folks in South Carolina understand that there's somebody that wants to fight for them and that makes sense but look at this president Trump's reelection kick off yesterday proved to be a lucrative windfall for his campaign according to GOP chairwoman rana mcdaniel trump raised nearly 25 million dollars in less than 24 hours John Heilemann that ain't nothing that's not that's not nothing and and the president is gonna have all the advantages of being a incumbent president while the
Democrats go through months of beating each other up an incumbent president who's gonna conserve his resources and he's not gonna have but all Druce to respect to bill weld not gonna have a significant primary challenge as that so that's the thing that any incumbent president likes the...
idea about want to talk to but can I see really quickly you know Jimmy is it what is there what is built in out to to this system to our political system that has allowed the last three presidents all who have been fairly divisive at times are they've rent running a divisive climate what's allowed them to be re-elected this is the first time since what may be the 1800s early 1800s that we've had three incumbents winning re-election in a row so what is it is it is as it become too hard for a challenger to beat the power of incumbency I think look that the reality is that this goes to a thing we talked about earlier in the show this big trend towards polarization by that I don't mean just that the the divisiveness and the vilification but the hardening of the tribalism of the politics that you start that that the center is produced almost nothing the number of votes in play is almost none people who are - or ticket splitters don't exist anymore
DemocratRepublican walk in with with high ceiling with high floors and low ceilings and you're competing for a very narrow slipper room vote and because an incumbent for the reasons we just talked about has a certain advantage they don't have to go through a primary fight they can conserve their resources they can spend months and months and months figuring out how to put together 270 electoral votes that with the built-in base that they have and so little available vote to compete for gives that power of...
incumbency is enhanced I think in a very polarized environment for those reasons I would say though that one of the things to go back to another thing you were talking about earlier today is this big demographic change that's happening in the country and yeah I want to talk to Jamie about it because I think you know we've seen in these polls with Donald Trump that suddenly what Georgia's in play you know now that's a state that we've been a little focused on as a potential battleground state in past cycles Arizona Georgia are the targets maybe Texas South Carolina people don't talk about that way but the same demographic changes that are happening in Atlanta and in Georgia broadly are also having in Charleston and other places in South Carolina so is this the moment where the demographic change as much as
Graham's weakness but the demographic changes to your state have opened the door to someone like you it has opened a door and it's the reason why we want a congressional seat in South Carolina we won mark Sanford seat for the first time in 30 years a
Democratis representing that seat and who ran against a trump siculus met the the young woman who ran against him said that she wanted to be the Kellyanne Conway of Congress right Donald Trump called into South Carolina did all this stuff and the
Democrats won that seat is because Charleston's changing we have all these people moving into South Carolina who are thinking differently...
and and so we have a shot here I know a lot of folks said oh it's South Carolina well you remember in 2008 Barack Obama lost Georgia by seven he lost South Carolina by eight without doing anything in unone North Carolina one Carolina week and one Indiana we are on the cusp of the birth of a new south there's a renaissance that is taking a place in the south and this race is going to be the tip of the spear these numbers in Virginia I mean are really the most Virginia which used to be a purple state is now a blue state plus 17 in the latest polls that were Joe Biden right yeah for Joe Biden over Donald Trump Charlie we've been talking this
morningat spoke earlier with the great Ron Fournier from Michigan talking about Macomb County why don't we get some insight from you if that's okay tell us about russain tell us about Kenosha should tell us about other parts of Wisconsin don't forget Oshkosh Josh Josh talk about the parts that are swing parts of that state we've seen some polls that show Donald Trump getting pounded by double-digits do you believe it or do you think that Donald Trump still has a good shot of carrying Wisconsin again I think he does have a good chance of carrying Wisconsin again it depends what the
Democrats do you know I mean everything that John said is absolutely true about the power of incumbency and I think you saw a preview of what this campaign is gonna look like last night where Donald Trump's gonna run on what you...
know safety security and the economy but the flip side is he's also going to be running against those
Democrats and those
Democrats who hate America want to destroyed America it was really striking I think four years ago he ran in sort of the talk-radio candidate now he's running as a full internet troll so here's the question if the
Democrats move hard enough and fast enough to the left if the Republicans can paint them as scary for open borders not you know run on security poise to trash the economy you can have a lot of those swing voters and places like Appleton and Green Bay and Racine and Kenosha who might go okay we are sick and tired of Donald Trump but at least that's the evil that we know and so I get Donald Trump doesn't need to win this election he just needs the
Democrats to be more more toxic than he is and proven in the past that he can do that really quickly Charlie have you seen any anecdotal evidence of people peeling off of Donald Trump no not really yeah this is part of the dynamic and again John mentioned the incredible polarization and tribal ization and and how much of our politics is this negative partisanship I do think that with all the things that we talk about and we look at we talked about the norms that are being shattered in the outrages that's almost been baked into the formula people have accepted that they understand that the president is a liar they understand he's a narcissist they understand that he's...
erratic but they figure at least he is you know he is not Bernie Sanders we're not bring social IDs Adrian I want to take a look before we go at the debate stage let's look at day one my gut is Elizabeth Warren stands out that big way and that she's the one to watch Claire McCaskill thought Amy might really stand out that night what are you thinking on day one yeah I agree with with your assessment and Claire's assessment I think Elizabeth Warren is going to rise to the occasion I think this is a moment for her to really you know talk about her policies in a way that millions and millions of people are gonna see as opposed to you know some of the lower numbers and that in the forums yeah I do think somebody like Amy will stand out I think somebody like better will stand out and I do think actually Tim Ryan will do got to middle class you know mister also let's look at yeah let's look at day two and the one to watch obviously Joe Biden I think it'll be interesting to see Buddha judge and Biden pair up me tea away the contrast right on to the next generation of our party versus the older generation you know I think in this first debate Joe Biden can rise above the fray he can you know paint himself as the presidential candidate at the one who sort of already achieved the nomination to an extent which is sort of the the tachyons been taking in some of these states but I think after this debate he's got to be very careful not to look like the...
inevitable candidate yeah because if you go out to some of these early states and you act like you've already got this nomination locked up you can get yourself in a lot of trouble yeah interesting Bernie's campaign I'm gonna ask you what's going on there I talk with all the candidates i text with some of them or they're not people silence honey yeah I was weird alright not going yeah no well I wouldn't say I don't know I just died I don't know Jamie what he thinks about Bernie's campaign yeah okay Jamie they're all in South Carolina and they're trying to help me send