LOL: Pastor Fails Miserably When Interviewed By Court About How He Spends The Ministry's Funds!

Okay, so what is this residential center? Oh, this is a place that belongs to the

ministry

. Well, no, we are in the process of purchasing it. Yes, okay, we are renting to buy or yes, we are renting to buy. Do you have that. as an asset of 2.84 times two million eight hundred and forty-four thousand five hundred, so are you the owner? I just responded that we don't own it, okay, but Wordsworth, look, I'm sorry, we're renting to own it, right? I thought we just said that, okay, you've listed it as an asset worth two million eight hundred and forty-four thousand dollars.

Oh, that should be more of a liability, where does the number two million eight hundred and forty-four thousand come from? in your asset liability, I guess it's the appraised value of the house, although the residential center is a house, no, it's a residential center, we use it well, so you're saying it's not something you own, but it It's listed as a 2.8 million dollar asset, that's probably a mistake, like I said, it probably should be a liability, okay, and what happens at the residential center is really a gathering place for our

ministry

where I bring in different leaders and also the staff that we have as a place where you know, maybe a resort and a teaching resort, yes, teaching a resort where we teach and train and November 29, 2013, JAMA, my pain for more than six thousand dollars for Louis Vuitton hmm, yeah, what would that be before?

Well, this is also for clothing related to my television ministry. we have to use the wait time, oh, no matter what name it is, the point is that the clothes are assigned to us for ministry purposes, what do you mean they are assigned to you, you know? in a media ministry, you know what? media ministry yeah okay I'll be on the road

when

I'm always traveling and wearing my clothes I'm sweating through them so I need new clothes too for the television ministry over the years on and on, You use the ministry's money to buy your wardrobe clothes.

Your alcohol is allocated more to the ministry's clothes than it goes to what your income is. I'm sorry that you show that you got Louie Vuitton clothes in your income, no, that's not it, that's not shown because it doesn't work. there it doesn't go there I don't know that means you don't belong there that's out of place what's out of place they don't tax you for things like that that's for a commercial purpose of the ministry so it's not Louie Vuitton Well, you can call it whatever you want, so in June 2014 you spent $3,500 from Jayma on Versace in the Bahamas.

Yes, I'm sure that's true, if that's what the shows are like there and those were the ones that closed for you. Yes, probably, yes, mostly. I don't see there's any problem

when

you're ministering to the poor, the sick, the needy, you show up moving a ton and Versace well, that's not something I buy all the time, well, it seems like you did it a few times and I mean. I'm a very frugal person when it comes to this, I go to the right places to get a lot of suits and if I get some of those places, don't you see you know I don't see Macy's, no, no.

I don't see that you know this because Macy's doesn't have the type of suits that I wear, but what I'm saying is that this is Louis Vuitton, things that you don't see in our charges all the time 2013 and 14 has been through JAMA my I spent more than $30,000 on your clothes, that sounds good. What year was that 13 and 14? Oh God, yes, because I traveled a lot and sweating all my clothes exactly, it probably wasn't enough because I only have soul, but they have to be top notch. - an expensive top of the line one, no they're not top of the line, Khloe, the times, like the cowboy doesn't know where I get my suits from, well you got something from them because you spent thousands and thousands, well the belts aren't It's not more durable, so that's good, come on, you're buying belts for $5,000, no, I mean, from various invoices, not just from 2014, you went to the Gucci store and tried to buy something, yeah, well, just I say it was probably a belt or maybe shoes.

I don't, but I don't usually buy my suits from these very expensive places, I just buy that the things I invest in will last longer, like belts, so you have to go shooting places like that, well, this isn't what bought. those things there because they have a better television appearance the belt for asking money from the poor no ssam you paid a thousand dollars to survey clothes in New York and then another 715 whose clothes were that for where it is that now I will understand August 1 October 28 a total of over 1,700 hours for Monceau clothing in New York I don't know, I don't know, okay, you testified in your last statement that Jama my owns three vehicles, a BMW Mercedes and a Bentley, yes.

Have you driven those cars? Yes, I'm Michelle. No, we usually have a driver. The three cars we are talking about in whose name the titles are. So the name of the ministry. They are all in JAMA. I think everything except the Bentley, whose name it is. Bentley and ah, it's in the wind MacDill. I have a question just so you know that you are a minister of the poor and the sick and everything else. This is a small offense. I'll drive around in a Bentley and a Mercedes with people you really know. impoverished and sick and sick and AIDS and drug rehab it's a little offensive to show place what you have well do one I don't show it please two people and I'm not well better a car than not Look at me driving that car every day.

I don't do that, but it's an administrator. Everyone in the ministry sees you. You said you were driving it. I hadn't done it before. I actually drove it, but it's not something I drive every day. Every day or even every year I don't do it. I have drivers pick up my guests, my high profile guests, but do you get my point that people who are suffering and give them every penny in donations and drug habits do it? them seeing you driving, they are high profile guests in a Bentley or a Mercedes, it could be offensive and hurtful, it could be offensive if they didn't know my life, but my whole life would be offensive with someone like you trying. to make it bad, you know, but because we're out of control like that, getting really important, that doesn't make me, then you also have a Land Rover, the Range Rover Range Rover, yeah, star.

Landrum is a Range Rover, which is the best. one, I don't even know just cars, so okay, so there's a bunch of documents that total almost $50,000 for Limbo Land in 2013 and 14 you have to answer yes and yes, okay, what was that for? Cutting the Mercedes into a limousine was to drive the Mercedes through them and who needs that. No, that's for guests. It's to give you gasoline. It's more so when you are entertaining guests. Yes, when you're entertaining. Well, no, but when we have guests. people in profile we here are the answer the level that way it is not necessary to have a limousine but in any Mercedes limousine we treat them you treat them I said we possibly have hospitality maybe that is a better word so this is not the first one in the ministries, head, well, no other, SAT limousine, yes, of course, so you paid live for everything and almost fifty thousand dollars in total almost fifty thousand and that was why make a limousine to cut them off they said they are two limousines, You think it was a good use. of the money that people donated to you JAMA, well, I mean, the bank has certainly looked at it in our books, it's good because it has an appraised value of almost 200 thousand, a little over a hundred and fifty thousand, but you got this from donations and you decided to use it to make a limousine uh we really invested it very well the banks are only answering if that's what you didn't do no the way you say it is that you have fortified the forgery I'm forgery what's your mouth yes only the question is well, did you use the money for that purpose?

You know the answer? So, in June 2013, there are charges worth over six thousand dollars for the Disney Resort Hotel Anaheim, California, remember? You were? Yes, I was there. Am I paying for your car expenses? Yes, and how many car expenses? uh I wouldn't, I wouldn't know exactly how much you don't know how much you still know who would say, take the camera, well on board, you can X Michelle, she's someone else. Perfect, what's wrong with your home? Jama, my Payoneer, yes, you receive housing allowance, yes, and how much is not certain. Do you report these subsidies as compensation on your tax return?

Honestly, I don't know what all that work is like. I have others. the people who do that then his girlfriend Michelle Michelle does her taxes no, I have other people but she has overcome a lot of that the financial accident when you say it depends on the board now the board includes Michelle yes, you, yes and who else, I don't Sure you can ask Michelle, you don't know who's on the board, eh, Tony. I would prefer that you get accurate information because I don't want to be accused of giving false answers like I have been other times when I tried to guess.

I just prefer you, I'm telling you, I don't know just XAR, how many people around the board of directors don't know, you just don't know, no, you don't have to have board meetings, yes, we have timely means, so no you do it. Don't keep asking how many people are at the table. Well, our board is also growing at the same time, so I'd rather they get that information somewhere. The last time they had a board meeting was one, so on the phone think that from the beginning it has been the beginning of the year in January, I can't say exactly the date, but it was on the phone, yes, I have never been on the

court

without criminal charges.

Way of criminal defense um yeah I did and that was the only thing I could think of in 13 is me you know when I discipline my son and those were the only things so I don't know anything more than that tell me about it. that in st. Louis, yes, and what a child that was, um, that was last year, I think, or the year before I was 13. Change of child, strange fate, your 18-year-old daughter, yes, and this was done through Child Protective Services. I think so, and what were the accusations. Well, I had to discipline her because she missed class 20 times and they felt that my disciplinary measure of wearing a belt was abusive, okay, so if you use the belt to discipline fate, I don't know if I can speak.

Can I talk about this because the money, my lawyers, Tom then acted without knowing the status of those proceedings? Has it been resolved? Is everything done? I'm going to be objective, well, let me ask a little bit what the status is. I don't know everything. right, I'm not asking you to say what you did, I'm just asking you if the accusations were that you disciplined your daughter with a belt and the university in fair accusations, you may have objected to it, put up tissue protection, do you? what is the Constitution? I'm not asking. that says what she did or did not do, nothing could lead to that, otherwise, it could be considered incriminating.

I think she has a record. I think you can tell me what the allegations are that it is not a privileged amendment to the bill or else it is because it does not do so. But if he doesn't know, especially the guys, that's saying I don't know, I told the truth, they're an absolute thing, let's just assume, you know, I don't know, I don't know who the lawyers are that he doesn't know. You seem to know the status of the matter, so to avoid any kind of drift and I think maybe you might be worried about this too, let me ask you, did it rise to the level of judicial intervention by the local

court

in St? .

Louis, that's not speculation if you're not doing well. I'm not testifying for you, but I don't know if you went to court. What cut would it be? Have you ever been to a court? These accusations that you discipline fate, oh, is it like that with family court? He already knows, if he knows his family's toys, then he went to the Family Court, yes, yes, and what was the result of that, was it done, is it pending, no. I don't know, you have no idea, no, I don't know, it's all because fate doesn't live with you now, um, yeah.